"CONQUEST" Episode 1 of 7 - The Troubles Series 1981 - UNSEEN - Troubles History Documentary
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"CONQUEST" Episode 1 of 6 - The Troubles Series 1981 - UNSEEN - Troubles History Documentary
Title: The Troubles
Ep 1 Conquest
Ep 2 Rising
Ep 3 Partition
Ep 4 Legacy
Ep 5 Intervention
Ep 6 Rebellion
Ep 7 Deadlock
Did a lot of work on the audio to bring this faded documentary back to its glory. Very pleased with my work on audio as I know many listen while out for walks etc.
Part 1 of 6.
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Thank you for this series which is throughly informative and educational. 💚
I 100% agree, it is that.
Yes, the roughly 2/3 Protestant and 1/3 Catholic figure is correct for 1981 (this film's original airdate). If you find that surprising, there are 4 points to bare in mind.
(1) The entire point for drawing a line around those specific 6 counties was to create a Northern Ireland state with a permanent Protestant majority.
(2) In addition to being the original airdate, 1981 was also a census taking year for NI (results to be published in 1982). It lists the total NI population in 81' as 1.5 million, of which 414,532 self-identified as Roman Catholic. If under the lable 'Protestant' you add up the members of all non-Catholic Christian religions in 1981 (including the then 340,000 strong Church of Ireland, which was not under the dominion of popes but did maintain many Catholic traditions) then you arrive at a number approaching 800,000 which actually puts the 1981 religious demographics closer to 1/4 Catholic and 3/4 Protestant. However ...
(3) In 1981 the IRA, and to an extent Sinn Fein, publicly promoted a policy of non-compliance with the state sponsored census. This culminated in the April, 1981 Derry murder of Joanne Mathers, a 29 year old Protestant census taker who was shot through the neck, on the job. Some have theorized Mathers was a female for female revenge killing for the attempted murder of Bernadette Devlin (a leading Republican voice who'd been shot several times in her Co. Tyrone home by Unionist paramilitaries three months prior), but either way the killing of a census taker very dramatically underscored the Republican policy of census non-compliance. As a result, 274,584 are listed in that census as 'Not Stated' and it is (correctly) assumed they were overwhelmingly Catholic. Add them back in (as the makers of this film clearly did), and you get a 1981 NI that is roughly 1/3 Catholic and 2/3 Protestant.
(4) As of 2022, Protestants are no longer the majority in Northern Ireland. It is now 45% Catholic, 43% Protestant, and 12% Other (Jewish, Hindu, Unaffiliated, Agnostic, etc).
Bernadette Devlin is still alive; she wasn’t murdered.
I was raised a Catholic but no time for any organised religion anymore....still an Irish nationalist tho and believe in unification....
@@ULYSSES-31you are correct, I intended to write 'attempted murder' and have made the correction - thanks
Also, the area was where the countries riches were in terms of industry.
So Britain kept the most profitable part of the island of Ireland.
Just think it’s worth a note.
@@bfc3057 did it end the conflict ?
I see it more as an asset stripping type thing
Not an equal compromise
The descendants of the Normans who settled in Ireland became more or less fully assimilated into Gaelic culture, by the 1600’s they were known as the “old English” and held in contempt by the English of the time
Yes I read they became more Irish than the Irish except for Dublin area always known as the pale totally anglicised compared to rest of Ireland even today people call Dubliners West Brits etc !
That was so educational. I learn something every time I watch one of these videos, thank you ATL your content is always First class. About the Prison camps they mentioned near the end, one of them was Frongoch internment camp in Wales. There is a Marker stone on the former site with a plate that is written in Irish, English and Welsh, Micheal Collins was interned there. It was actually Two camps in one, the north camp and the south camp which was once a Whisky distillery. I believe there was another camp near Winsford in Cheshire but I can`t find any information about it.
Interesting stuff Stephen - A camp was close to where I live. DownPatrick museum has a replica of the camps dorms within it. What a history eh... Appreciate the comment chum.
@@ATroubledLand My pleasure Pal 👍👍
a 'handful' of rebels fought the rising? - British Propaganda at its best!
Remember this is pretty outdated, a very British bias at the time
@@ATLmodKthe sneer in that lady's voice is appalling.
Thank you for these. Looking back now, these help make sense of what always appeared senseless.
I remember watching this in the early 80s. And how, in the context of what we were used to hearing, it sounded quite objective. By 'context,' I mean the relentless propaganda that tried to crininalize being Irish in the north.
i really appreciated the pictures of the evictions. those details and nuances i hadn't realized. as always... thrilled by your diligence!
Awesome content - never seen this before. GRMA!
Plant enough good crops and the weed's (Irish) will fade away.
Against the genocide's
And the crown ☘️
If the planted crops are seeded with dirty hands then they shouldn't be surprised if the roots are infected and their hands get bitten
Thanks
The arse-end of the Protestant Asendancy.
the williamite army contained a considerable amount of catholics in their ranks at the battle of the boyne
What a time to have experienced for these Irish people
😊 possibly should be the first vid on this channel. Very impressed, brilliant content
Some incredible camera shots and locations in this film.
This episode has some amazing camera shots considering back then they had no drones!
@@ATroubledLand
Even the stuff in the burnt out estates is amazing. Looks like Steadicam.
90% attending Mass back then . Now it's probably around 30% . The big problem facing the Church is that few really believe in religion anymore. They may believe in God but not in the religious practice that comes with it .
A very interesting way to describe genocide from the side of the murdering scum.
My god but the bias in tbis is shocking. Shows you what the opinion of the Irish was in Britain at that point.
England out!
Ireland for the Irish!
Wow🤬 religion has destroyed so much
Invasion and greed has destroyed so much ,Religion was used as a tool
Nothing new there
This wasn’t about religion, it was about perceived ethnic differences. They didn’t have a problem with English Catholics at the time.
@@ATLmodK you are correct but in a wider context see where he is coming from also
@@jackietreehorn5561 yes religion has always been used as an excuse. But I think that first they saw the Irish as people who were uncivilized.
Of course religion has been an excuse worldwide.
@ 17:34 - I wonder if the song 'Olivers Army' is a reference to Cromwell going over there to 're-conquer' the Irish.....
Yes. The song was written about the troubles. Declan (aka Elvis) is from an Irish family and would no doubt be familiar with some Irish history. Costello is a stage name but is a common name in Ireland (pronounced differently to sound more exotic, a bit like the Stephen Colbert).
🇮🇪💓🇮🇪💓🇮🇪💓🇮🇪💓🇮🇪 Ireland needs to be reunited as one country,,, there is no reason why the people in the North and South cannot come together as one country,,, many countries like Australia they like the royal family and wave the British flag but Australia is one country the same as the Commonwealth countries, they wave the British flag there too,, but they are all individual countries England has no influence., Ireland should be the same,, Ireland is one large piece of rock in the Irish sea not two large pieces of rock in the Irish sea which makes it one country,,, the time will soon come for both sides the North and the South to remove the barriers that divide you apart and bring you together as one county....... For the love ❤ of Ireland.......,, PS.. Ireland joining NATO would be a mistake until Ireland is reunited as one country first, 🇮🇪💓🇮🇪💓🇮🇪💓🇮🇪💓🇮🇪💓
I'm Irish , There is No North or South in my Country , where are you From Cara ?
@@scoop2963England are temporary caretakers in the North
Ireland can't afford the north. Plus you lot are too busy letting the Muslims take over
Written like a true Irish American 😂 stfu bro
How would you pay for everyone on the dole??? How could you survive as a single country with a piss poor army. What export is going to sustain your country? What imports do you need to get in? Etc etc etc the amount of uneducated piss poor idiots that comment about Ireland astonishes me. I personally would give Ireland back to Ireland, Scotland, back to Scotland and Wales back to Wales…. Six months in, you’ll be begging to come back.
Anyone know the tune at 3:26 ?
No but its a bouncy wee number lol
Obviously way back in Cromwell times laws were very different and barbaric from more modern times so when murder like that time became against the law along with everything else they did to the Irish people and when life and laws became more civilised why then wasn’t Ireland returned back to its own ? I understand that by then Protestants were part of the north but history tells us land was basically stolen from the catholics and should be given back to its rightful owners wether the Protestant people like it or not it was never rightfully or even morally there’s but they could live on there as it was a different time and they shouldn’t suffer for what their ancestors did but the island IS Ireland and shouldn’t be a part of Britain but they can still claim British citizenship as that’s what they were brought up with but there still in Ireland
In Cromwell’s time he was carrying out a military campaign so his behavior toward the Irish would have been seen as strategic in protecting the colony belonging to Britain. I am descended from one of his exiles and even now we know how incredibly fortunate our ancestor was to have survived the siege of Drogheda.
@@ATLmodK thanx for your reply, I don’t think I’ll ever understand why Ireland has not been returned to her people.
@@paddycaldwell3112 any Imperial society is reluctant to just hand back a sovereign nation. That’s the simple answer, but along with that you have 50% of NI who are vested in being British. I’m convinced that the island will unite and sooner rather than later, but what do you do about the people who insist they are not Irish but British?
As long as we have curropt polititions not a hope
two thirds one third? was that accurate at that time?
I've answered your question, in detail, via the comment section (just above your own).
Looks like soviet Russia
The history in this is nonsense. The battle of the Boyne was not decisive, and the war continued.