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Having owned the trail for 2 months with about 500 rounds through it now James review is spot on. It’s not the most precise bolt in the world my groups came up right at 1.5 with rem 55 grain but it’s just damn fun to shoot honestly. The ruger is still a solid rifle I just like the fit,finish and look of the cz more.
Glass bed it! Just say'n...
Looking at cz website they have a recall currently on these and say to stop using them.
@@dillonsurratt The recall was due to the fact that they originally designed this to be barrel interchangeable, but found that it could be reassembled wrong by the user. they have since gotten rid of that feature. you can check your serial number on their site to see if yours is effected. I just bought mine about a month ago and is not effected by the recall.
That’s awesome. Enjoying what you spend your $$$ on is the most important.
Isn't it a sub-moa guarantee?
300 blackout is an absolute must for this.
5'' and 9'' pistol and with tele-brace for the win!
Yes. Absolutely. It blows my mind they didn't include 300 blk! I would like to see 6.5 Grendel too.
@@fransix5411 interesting, considering that even 300blk isn't really powerful. Here in Slovenia 223 and 7.62 are ok for really small animals like foxes etc because they are just enough powerful at 100 meters.
@@JohnZ556 the ATF is getting pissed right now over that idea !
@@fransix5411 but not for target shooting etc
I am typically a proponent of not every gun needs to be sub moa, but a $1000 bolt gun is gonna be an exception that needs to be atleast 1 moa but should be sub.
A $1000 bolt gun should always be sub-moa. It get that people are paying for the name but this one is a bit much.
3:47
Love how he automatically searched for the charging handle 🤣
*Brain sees AR mag*
I know what to do now!
it's like that meme with the US spy and Russia spy
Starting at 4:22, you could see the suppressor spinning loose with the slow motion footage.
That was neat to watch, I thought the gas was directed in those to tighten the suppressor
That’s sketchy as shit. Jesus.
@@benjaminnevins5211 depends
Yup came looking for that comment
This is why I use an ASR mount on everything. I got tired of keeping an oven mitt on my support hand.
“loosely organized cougar hunting safaris“ 😂 this man is gold
I think a challenge between lever and bolt for suppressed is in order
My current debacle
Lever action is the answer
I’m saying bolt will be more silent
@@user-vs2vk4ol1y right handed garbage a lever is acceptable from both sides
kind of ''short stroke'' if we talking bolt
Your so generous with your mischievous smile, letting that young Czech Chad roll through his pitch. So curious and smiley these days James…just keep it moving there Hondo.
James if you want another "bolt action curiosity" try out the CZ jaguar. Its 28 inch barrel is so long for 22lr that its ALMOST hearing safe. It would be great if a mainstream channel would finally give it love. Its one of the most accurate (and supressed quitest) rifle that exists for under 1000 dollars.
Honestly I think a 10/22 is hearing safe. Might lead to long-term hearing damage but heyI shooting it naked doesn't bother me.
Probably losing velocity at that point man. So I guess if your goal is to turn every .22 ammo into a subsonic, that’s one way to do it.
@@macriggland6526 iirc 22lr is most ideal for 14 inches, everything longer is allready starting to slowing it down again
@@Genesis23OPB That’s illegal though, chum sperlock. 16 is the best commonly available length for .22
In America? Sure, 16 is the legal rifle length. For other countries and for pistols in the US? There are other options.
Cool rifle; lots of personality.
I continue to pray that CZ’s proximity to Colt does not screw up CZ too bad going forward.
4:26 suppressor goes "weeeee"
The man is throwing out "subtle" with a hard "b". Much respect.
Heard it the second I read this 😂
'Don't mess with it too much; the rifle is fine.' Kind of describes every firearm I have. I like that advice.
Ruger American Ranch is awesome! I own one in 5.56mm NATO equipped with sling and Holosun Green Dot Reflex Sight, and don't regret it. Using PMAG10s, PMAG20s, and PMAG30s is great. Lots of range fun!
3:46 that muscle memory kicking in w/ that reload. You almost went for a charging handle 😂
I'd like to see a version in 6.5 Grendel, that would be a very practical option.
Your description of a round that is nearly unobtainable as "practical" is intriguing.
man i'm loving the new bolt guns with AR controls. just makes sense
When a Ruger ranch and a Q-Fix love each other very much... They have a CZ trail
A German chancellor has also figured out that we the Czechs were mongrels. ;-)
To answer your hunting question, .223 is extremely common for hunting, and it was even before ar 15s became popular.
For 900 bucks, you can get the Ruger American Ranch and the Sharps Bro Heatseeker chassis. All you need to finish it is an AR grip and an AR stock of your choosing.
I think you just sold my next SPR.
And it will shoot better than the trail. Facts.
Top notch humor in this one. Great video!
That's the coolest rifle no one will buy.
Why won't anyone buy it? NY, NJ, IL, CA, MD, there are lots of obvious captive markets. Then Australia? Different European countries? Lots of potential markets.
I'd get one if I lived in a less free area.
Then shooting suppressed is a useful feature.
@@woodsghost9088 I'm in CA and I wouldn't even buy it. 🤣 Can't imagine defeating the enemy wit a bolt. Hunting is fine but there's a lot of options already.
Good to hear there are good options!
@@megaman010391 sig cross would be a better alternative
@@surfingtothestars that's a 308/6.5 creedmoor. Different animal. Indeed a nice rifle. $1600 or so.
I was excited when I clicked on this video. They lost me at 2 MOA guarantee.
So far I have CZ 600 Lux 223 Rem (FANTASTIC!) and can't wait for Trail (pre-ordered).
You are both insightful and entertaining. And so was the Czech countrymate, in fact. As a shareholder for whom Colt CZ is the 2nd largest piece of the portfolio, I was also happy to see that Colt CZ is now focusing on preppers as the main market. I hope that we will be adding Alex Jones' vitamins and turmeric to the boxes!
I saw this and thought it was cool, but for the price, I expect something better. Really does seem like the Ruger American in 5.56 with AR mags is the way to go.
Does the ruger american cycle smoothly when you run the bolt on the ar mag version? The mini-30 version for sure does not.
On paper? I think the American is the better bang for the price. But there is a lot I'm not spun up on with handling of either.
@@Arkeo36mine runs fine 👍🏻
@@ThePhilipoconnor the one's I've seen in action do fine on 5 rounds or fewer but even the 10 round ruger official mags give my pals trouble.
@@Arkeo36 fair enough, as I say even on fully bombed up 30 rounders my Ruger American 5.56 runs great and my mate has one in 300blk and he runs 20 rounders and again works great. 🤷🏻♂️
freaking cool. I love Tactical bolt actions, or bolt actions with larger mags in a Patrol Rifle setup. The Ruger Ranch in 7.62x39 is the best one I have shot. Uses mini 30 mags, and its so much fun, plenty accurate even with "Poverty tier" russian steel case ammo
This seems like a great weapon for being on a trail (as the name says). 556 makes it very convenient instead of some random hunting ammo type.
I'd like this in either 6mm arc or 6.5 Grendel.
Ditto, especially 6 arc since you can load to the bolt pressures, you've basically got a mini .243
Good options but I think 350 legend, 300 hammer or 300 blk would add some practical power. 7.62x39 fits fine as well.
@@chadperry4021 6mm ARC has the same energy as those but with better B.C so it maintains the energy at distance.
I'd love to see James do a AR mag fed bolt action series of videos similar to the cheap shotgun videos. There's the Black Creek Labs Bison MRX, the Mossberg MVP. Even though the Howa mini action isn't AR mag fed, I think it has a place as a small light weight bolt gun.
And the Mini-Fix.
Here are a few for you, but not all bolt-actions ::
~The bolt-action 5.56 rifles from ‘Mossberg’ MVP and ‘Ruger’ Ranch both use AR magazines.
~CZ 600 Trail bolt-action uses AR magazines.
~’Bond’ makes a new lever-action with AR magazines.
~A company called ‘Troy’ has pump-action and straight-pull AR’s.
~’Remington’ use to make the pump-action model 7615 in 5.56 that used AR magazines.
Re: hunting with .223, I've taken a deer @ 135yd with it. I normally don't hunt deer with .223, but I was out coyote hunting (with an AR), an opportunity presented itself, and I had a tag left to fill!
I saw that charging handle reach after mag change at 3:48.
If you have an issue stripping the top round from the magazine, I would suggest opening the bolt before the magazine switch or first mag, insert mag, then close the bolt. Not sure if it would help, but it seems like that would be the best way to deal with that kind of an issue with this rifle.
I am a bolt action guy CZ makes fantastic products including thier bolt guns (although they are now treasonous to the south paws)
I have thier 527 micro mauser in 223 it's under 7 pounds with the wood stock and scope and I. The top 3 of my most accurate rifles. I have shot it out to over 700 yards ( the wind in my area is hell on 223) . It's magazine fed and shoots about 1/2 inch groups.
everytime i watch this channel, my list of favorite firearms keep adding up. so far this is my top tier bolt action because it's kinda suitable for me as left hand dominant and also wants a lightweight survival bolt action.
Love how the can started unscrewing itself just has he was talking about it😂
I hope they come out with a .308 version!
Seems like a great scout rifle
Look their answer...
308 taking magpul ar10 mags would be sick
It would, but they will not make it.
308/6.5 CM will be AICS mag run ...
They have it currently as the Alpha, Range and Lux version, Range style guarantees sub moa
I dig this! I've been shooting 223/556 for some distance lately. A hornady 68 grain does decent to 650 ish and it's cheaper than 308/6.5
I've seen some guys at the 500 yard range swearing by 77gr. I'm not good enough for it to matter, hopefully after enough practice.
I agree, the 68 grain match shoots faster and flatter for varmints (smaller kill zone) in the ranges where 5.56 is varmint capable. My A2 loves them out to about 600 to 650 in moderate wind.
I love it! I’ve been eying the Ruger ranch in 7.62 and your review is one I reviewed, but this is a great option too…
I want that so much. Thanks James!
"cougar hunting" "you know how I feel about old things"
Something's not adding up here, James
James closing one eye to look down the barrel of a weapon with no sights was amazing (at shot show 5:30)
I thought most people did that, I usually do. Mostly cause im already seeing how it feels in my shoulder so why not
@@ethanwiley7605 What do you look at? Is that an iron sights thing?
@@bass779 nothing really, it just lets me know how it shoulders and how it feels on the cheek
@@bass779 its shows you how the gun lines up
Tip
Barrel
Stock
Shoulder
Should all line up naturally... much like shouldering a trap shotgun if it doesn't all fall in line it may not be much use for you..
I started this video as background noise when I work but this ended up being really cool lol I want one in .300 now
Here in Nebraska .223 Rem/5.56 is a popular varmit round. You can hunt deer with 5.56 here, too but I don’t.
CZ posted a safety recall on the 600 rifles today lmao
It was actually posted in late April 2022 LOL.
Still waiting on the Hop vs James AR 15 build
@3:47 saw you reached for an ar15 charging handle and giggled. Thanks for the review! Good stuff!
I'm glad you are the one who used the word assassin. As I saw you shooting from the prone position it came to mind, but I wasn't going to say anything.
Done a lot of hunting varmints with .223 bolt guns. Lots of fun even out to nearly 500 yards.
Those "old bolt guns" can be pretty accurate. I like the old Remington 788s.
When he said "old rifles" he was talking about C & R
I'm not a hunter either or bolt gun enthusiast but I've been wanting a 300 blk bolt action just to plink with supressed. This would be perfect. was looking into the Tikka t3x and bergara hmr recently.
Ruger american ranch
Ruger Blackout all the way! 2 for one in price you could by both in .300 and .223 for the price of the CZ!
Enjoy your content great job!
The 600 Trail in 7.62x39 is FINALLY available! Two years after they were introduced! 😮💨
Just ordered one yesterday. 😄👍
Keep us posted!
@bryanupton9872 I haven't shot it yet as I don't know what kind of optic I want to put on it. I have an SWFA 10x that doesn't have a home but I think it may be a little too big for this rifle.
Shout out to CZ for making a quality iron sight bolt gun
for 1100 dollars it better be
So good there’s already a safety recall
Based. Wonder what CZ is going to do with the rest of the 600 line after they removed the "barrel swap" feature
Ya, that was a disappointment.
Hopefully lower the prices a bit to maybe $750-850. A .223 bolt gun with rails and a foldy stock doesn't scream 1000 dollars to me when the barrel swap feature is gone.
Adorable and light ✨️
Put the Ruger in a MDT CHASSIS SYSTEMS, weight varies depending on stock configuration you use. My rifle with a AR buffer tube and stock and side pull folding adaptor weights in a 9.2 lbs with scope. Free floating barrel and very rigid stock. Still uses AR mags.
Weren’t these originally supposed to be able to change caliber?
They did but they had to do a recall on that feature as people weren't doing it properly and it led to safety issues
Don’t know why, but I love to “run ‘n gun” with bolt guns. Currently I only have an old Lee Enfield, so I’ve been looking for something lighter and with less recoil than the hefty 303 British (also, something that doesn’t cost $1.50 a round). I was hoping this would be it, considering I love how it looks, and I like CZ. But I think I’ll go with my original plan of getting the Ruger American in 7.62x39. I want the accuracy more than I want cool. Still. I may have to get this a few guns down the road. And who know? Maybe they’ll do something to get better accuracy.
I feel the same, I have a simple 22 bolt and the older cz 557 in 308, both with 10 round magazines and both are fun to run and gun with.
Would love a nice in between, 7 62 x39 or 300 blackout in a small package to be the perfect little mix of cost and power between the two.
My 16yo son is an awesome shot with his bolt .223. Got his first mule deer this year. Big doe. polymer tip. Exploded the heart and both lungs. Which is a bummer.. because I like to eat the heart.
I throw the heart in with the ground meat. The is definitely no reason to not eat the heart in my book.
My dads been hunting whitetail for years with his ar in 556. You shoot the right spot it don’t matter what caliber you use
I'd wait for the 7.62x39...and would be curious as to the mag used for that model. My Ruger Ranch takes the Ruger Mini 30 mags...5, 10, 20, and 30 rds capacity. Sub moa with mostly wolf, tiger, red army ammo and tula 154 soft point.
I think CZ said that the 7.62x39 model used the proprietary Bren mag.
@@TheAfterPein Thanks !
One issue I've been hearing with this rifle is how the casings on one side of the magazine may get dented, causing lesser accuracy in every other round you chamber. Any ways to fix this?
A bit of an odd ball set up but I have a right handed CZ 527 in 7.62 x 39 and use a custom left handed thumb hole stock. The rifle is light enough for me that I can cycle the action with my right hand without having to move my left hand/thumb the way I would with a conventional stock. It actually works pretty fast especially when I can support the fore end so that I don't even have to put my right hand back on the stock.
A great video and a very interesting rifle. It may be handy to pack it into a shorts.
From what I understand the European version of SAMMI doesn’t differentiate between .223 and .556. They have different listing but they both have the pressure of .556. So long story short is if it’s european and says .223, you can safely shoot .556. Feel free to disagree or fudd all over your phone.
This is correct
Thanks for the feedback. I like your channel.
I want a small, durable x39 bolt gun so bad
I hunt white tail with a Ruger American in x39.
It’s a great lightweight rugged option for hiking in the dense mountains of north east PA.
Your affordable options are either the Howa or the Ruger. Sucks that CZ discontinued their x39 wood stocked rifle.
@@Ntmoffi I didn’t know that CZ discontinued the 527. That’s a real shame as it’s a great rifle, the fact it had iron sites was great. The Ruger is nice because it can run either mini 14 or x39 AR mags if you change out the magwell for $20.00. It also has Magpul aftermarket support now with their soon to come precision stock and magwell for it.
@@thegreenman2030 yea they discontinued it in 2021. Now I only see them on gunbroker for way too much money.
@@Ntmoffi They weren’t cheap to begin with. The magazines were costly and hard to come by as well.
Super accurate and great bush gun! Love it!
nice review, and thanks for bringing this rifle to our attention.
They should have made the 7.62 version take ak mags
The bren2 has the same mag well as the AR. It just has some higher cuts in the front of the magwell so the 7.62x39 mag can take a bend earlier. Basically all these trail guns will have the same bren 2 magwell.
@@scottdpugnificent huh I didn't know that. Logistically I prefer ak mags but it's cool to know the bren mags were made to address that curvature. So can a bren take 762 ar mags??
Am I the only one who thinks bolt actions are antiquated?
Yes
outside of dedicated long range guns or bughole-group guns... you're right. Preferably both.
Bolts do come in handy when you are getting outside of bog standard cartridges. I wouldnt want to take some goofy cartridge and be the first to get it to function in AR and feed out of stanag mags..
They're pretty good for restricted markets like CA and Canada. Especially when you soup them up like CZ did.
@@dashikashi4734true. That’s a good point but I just don’t see myself reaching for a bolt for home defense. I am sure it would make a decent hunting rifle, but even then, modern firearms allow you to reach out several hundred yards with a semi.
In fairness though, states like California have a mini 14 or 30. You would be lucky to shoot any target 100 yards away.
Depends on the purpose of the firearm. "Antiquated" really depends on what you intend for the gun to do. You can't make a blanket statement on bolt actions like that.
"And also I'm drunk" was a crazy intro to this channel for me I have to subscribe now
My Skeleton in 7.62×39 is the dopest bolt action I own.
As a native Czech (living in Australia) im a mad CZ fan but mauser actions only. For this purpose i will stick with my Remington 7615 in .223.
Interesting option where bolt-action might be legally easier to own. Bolt action AR15 mods still probably more appealing in the US, considering they are generally reversible.
Just ordered mine in 300blk I was looking for the best scope and was thinking about the 1-8 I'm glad to see it's the beat option.
Looked at 1 a couple days ago.
Love the collapsable stock.
If they made it in semi auto 223/556 id buy 1.
Always enjoy your videos
They should have never discontinued the 527 Carbine, they should have at least kept that one rifle going.
Man... I was waiting for that review for quite a while. I have first seen this rifle at IWA22. Hope there will be a 300aac version soon. Thanks a lot for your opinion james. cheers from Austria
I would love to get one of these as one of the first adds to my collection
I hunt with a 223 in Australia it’s a popular round for Roos , goats foxes even pigs .
Cheers mate
I’m getting one of these. In some states it’s illegal to hunt white tail 2:13 with a 223. It’s not in my state and I don’t use it much for hunting, but I do on occasion when I’m hunting specifically in under 100 yard areas and I really need meat so I take head shots on does.
"Slap on" "nifty"... I like this guy.
.223 is a great hunting round for medium to small game. I’ve taken MANY big Tennessee Whitetails with 75-77 grain soft point .223 .
That new chest rig looks great!
I got one in .300 blk. very fun.
I recently found a different model of the 600 series at my local gun store, and I had no idea what it was. The one at my local store felt pretty well put together and I was rather impressed with it.
THIS is the bolt gun I also want for once.
As a "Mormon" (member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints) who lives near Salt Lake City, I found your comment about the CZ600 line being like a SLC Mormon family hilarious. Thanks for another great gun review! I don't have a use case for a CZ600 Trail so I won't be getting one, but it certainly is an interesting firearm.
As a non-Mormon who grew up in SLC, thank you 🙏 For being confident and secure enough to laugh at a joke… I’m amazed I haven’t seen some snide angry comments here and it’s refreshing
Its a light weight , easy packing trail rifle with a collapsible stock, for opportunistic shooting. Used with 70 grn copper solid to take advantage of the 1:7 twist it should easily have power and accuracy to take game up to and including small Deer .
Am already reading of people readily achieving 1 MOA with proper load development .
Has just become available in NZ and i am seriously keen to get one. There are plenty of places in the world ( including NZ ) where semi autos are not an option.
you want to make that ranch rifle even more badass check ot the sccout mount that skinner sights makes for the american. they are super badass
If CZ wanted to sell lots of these, they should have done bigger bore calibers. Chambered for .308 or hell, even .300 WinMag would open their market up significantly.
I wouldnt want to use that flimsy thing with 300 WM.
They probably expect you to buy the 300 ergo or something for that kinda thing instead.
Looks really cool
Super nice awesome rifle thank for the video 👍
James Reeves on his way to become a true Grassy Knoll Operator.
3:47 The ol' ar15 manual of arms was trying to kick in after that reload...
Oh well
Have your bolt open when you rack up, this will stop the brass pressing on the bolt in the closed position
My ex father in law used a .223 to hunt whitetail. That was back in the 80s and there were fewer restrictions back the. The desert whitetail were really small in Southern Arizona, so I didn't think much of it.
1:52 Yeah...that video was kinda the reason I now have one....and then I watched this video....DAMMIT JAMES !!!
thats super cool, it looks intelligently designed, I want one