@@arumicyak this is exactly what I was thinking about. We even have an Erudition character that applies DoT (Serval) so the sky really is the limit with these kit designs.
Exactly, the only identity of remembrance is having a summon, that's it. The possibilities are endless. You could have them focused on DOT where the summon applying a random DOT and the character detonating it like Kafka, or they could be a healer and shielder where the character heals on skill and the summon applies a shield whenever they act.
Fugue is a must pull because she fundamentally changes the flow of combat by being able to double break enemy units, having permanent application of super break, delaying enemy timelines, and giving a DPS rainbow toughness breaking while also doing def down *cries in Silver Wolf* Xueyi + Fugue's rainbow toughness reduction is gonna go fucking absolutely nutty. Super break won't fall off any time soon... the shit I have seen people do to make E6 Arlan work because all you need to do is stack SPD and tank stats for mainstats and all Break Effect... Arlan for fuck's sake.
@@ABC-yj6cyclearly u don't play AS where the AS buffs triggers ONLY when the boss is WEAKNESS BROKEN, they alr made a similar boss aka aventurine where u kill the mobs and reduced the toughness.
@@MarquezDeluxe imagine a new dps that can consume as many skill point as possible to do massive damage and sparkle give that dps 7 skill point, imagine that
Ngl at that point that's just a blatant and terrible game design choice. You can hinder the ability to break enemies by increasing toughness or temporarily locking it, but why would they make them completely unbreakable? Saying the enemies won't be breakable is just coping now and you're not the only one preaching this so eagerly
@@Condensed_rock oh I've seen them. They're by no means "unbreakable." You just can't brute force it anymore and that's fine. Making them actually unbreakable though? That's the dumbest thing the game can pull off.
There's no denying that fugue will be a very strong addition to the superbreak roster but f2p and low spenders JAVE to choose between either buffing superbreak to its maximum or going in for the new summon meta
I plan on skipping since I wanna pull for herta and also heard she isn't allat with firefly which is the only break dps I got as opposed to someone like rappa which greatly helps her
Thats true she aint all that with firefly. But u can run triple superbreak with fugue. 1 from firefly, 1 from hmc and 1 from fugue (i dont have firefly but it should be atleast 2 superbreaks if firefly her 1 doesnt count)
I was already gettin her but i never stopped to realize the potential of summon-break & summon-dot characters. I had assumed that it'd always be crit, good point!
My thing is this: It's not that I don't WANT to pull for Fugue. It's moreso I CAN'T. I pulled Sunday and trying him out on other teams, he's definitely an improvement for my account. However, I've been waiting for Fugue for a very long time and I fear I won't have enough pulls to even get her. I no longer have guaranteed (Used on Sunday), so if I were to lose the 50/50, I'd be fine with Himeko E1, E2 Welt (IT'S BEEN AGES!!), or a E5 Bronya. I'd crash out if I get an E4 Bailu or an E1 Geppie. Edit: I'd also like to point out that I was a guy that didn't care for Sunday until trying out his kit.
@@theoDSP I am left with no jades. It took me 180 pulls just to get him. I've never had to hit the maximum pity before this. Thankfully I got his lightcone at 50 💀
gods ive been saving from 2.4 to 2.6(except Feixiao), Pulled for Sunday and his S1 and i still have more than enough to pull for both Fugue and The Herta, leaks are really helping to plan my pulling sessions as F2P
@@misora25chan I was on a break of the game so I didnt pulled her but would had loved too. I had no reason to get Sunday because I failed to pull Ruby and I didnt went for the general and wasnt interested either. I knew Fugue was going to be a better unit for literally EVERYONE that had pulled characters since the start of the game so yeah. When sunday came around, every youtuber was slandering Fugue as to not to pull for her in favor for future meta when Fugue literally patches all you have already pulled. UA-camrs would say anything dumb for views.
In your opinion, if you only have enough pulls to guarantee fugue or the herta, which would you suggest pulling for? I already have all the super break members, and I probably plan to keep using hmc, and I really want herta and I think I’m gonna be too low to guarantee her and idk if I wanna risk the 50/50 for herta
Honestly, if you dont plan on geting aglaea, then just get Big herta and use you HMC for break, but know that you wont be able to use RMC and therefore summon meta (at least withought a copium team) until you either get sunday or fugue. I dont know if you look at leaks so i will not spoil much but big Herta is insanely good.
If you are truely F2P so NO Montly Express, NO battle Pass, then save for Herta she is also made for F2P and her damage buff recently confirms it, F2P players lack damage. not so much utility. if you are Montly Express Battle Pass payer, then with the Free Jade in 3.0 you will get Herta definetly if you play every day. the extra bonus is garantee to pull Herta. But Fugue and Herta are made for F2P or like Gacha Smack says for casuals. who want to grow, Fugue is made for people who pulled old characters where the DPS didn't had that toughness reduction, Himeko Welt DHIL etc. to remain functioning in future. if you want Algaea cause you pulled Sunday, then you would skip on Fugue and Herta or have to pull out the wallet. one of the Reason I told people skip Sunday, Bronya functions well enough if you pulled her in the free ticket, you could have skipped Sunday.
@@GachaSmack07 that’s kinda what I was thinking. I get the battle pass usually and sometimes the monthly pass so I’m gonna do the math towards the end of her banner and see if I can feasibly get both, and if not I think I’ll go for herta. I’d love to have a good ice unit too, thanks for the response man appreciate it!
@@drakehound2244even if I just lost my 50/50 and have no pity built up, I shoudl get enough to get fugue and a guaranteed herta if I get battle passes and the monthly pass you think? That’s like 270 pulls if I go to hard pity each time (which seems unlikely but could happen). How many pulls do people think we’ll get in 3.0?
Thanks for making these videos! I'm a returning player from about 2 yrs ago, so much has been released since then and I appreciate how easy and understanding with the info you put out, breaking down the stats needed for armors sets, ornament sets and also directing on what should be pulled and why for f2p people. It sucks to save gems for months, only to feel like you rolled on something you don't need. Subscribing for more!
@@kiyotakaayanokoji3507 Well, whenever the first originally Jing Yuan banner was, that was the only banner I remember LMAO. I remember playing when he was the first one that came out, and I got bored cause I ran out of content.
Fugue is being slept on like Ruan Mei early on. She can elevate ALL units. A better version of the best path the MC has taken at present. What is there to lose? Personally, this comment isn’t to persuade anyone to pull. You get the waifu you want. I’m just saying that there isn’t a reason NOT to pull her in term of meta. I got Acheron and Jing Yuan. Another Lightning DPS will not help me whatsoever. My eruditions also got their best in slot teams already. I’m not pulling for Algaea or THE Herta. The desire to save for them will be what helps you get what you want.
I wouldn't really compare Fugue and Ruan Mei here. People who slept on her for whatever reason are just plain fucking stupid, poor (in-game) or simply missed her, as she was the first full team buffer with multiple buffs happening at once, fitting in almost every single team no problem, even our forgotten DoT team. Fugue is the new super break enabler, meaning her best team and probably most played one, is going to be based around super break. Just in terms of value alone, Ruan Mei still takes the cake here imo, especially since she would replace HMC and people who don't change them into Remembrance still have "budget" Fugue available. (no hate or anything, just my 2 cents about the comparison)
@@blackdust7353 well, assuming you used the word "slept" to actually say "skipped"( other way it would make no sense you took poorness as a possible reason). They is another legitimate reason you forgot. Having dignity. Because clearly people pulling her have none of it (dignity) , to pull for the worse limited 5* in term of design 😬
@@kirby9427 Well, alright, you have a point there. It should be "skipped", not "slept". I think your point about dignity is stupid tho. Some people like me rarely give a single shit about the "lame design" and i will admit, Ruan Mei is one of the worst in that case with Topaz. But she is a must for most people just for her kit, so idk what dignity you are refering to exactly? Cause i just want to build strong teams and have fun with the game
i will be getting the herta and fugue but i am not sure about the summoners.... however i am sure that i wont be getting castroice since she looks hella mid unless her personality or in game design changes my mind.
She's a unique nihility unit that enables break centric teams but also allows you to go in with a team thats out of element and still manage to break bars and lower defense. I think her kit is very good and universal in a lot of teams. She's just better when you can really delve in on the break.
The people who are saying Fugue is a mid unit are Firefly mains that’s it. But anyways us Rappa , Himeko , Boothill & Xueyi mains are finna be eating good lol
saying things out of your ass because nobody said fugue is mid. she enables every break character including firefly lower cost team to 0 cycle. she's an easy skip for most players compared to sunday and for an obvious shift in meta starting in 3.0, not that because she's mid.
@electrickzy let's say you're correct (which is questionable), where tf did you even get that the people who said that are firefly mains lmaoo, i guarantee it's just you tryna blame firefly mains for breathing. nobody says she's mid if they know how to play the game.
@@ryuki9788 You are clueless brother if you think no one is doomposting her rn. Also saying i'm tryna blame firefly mains for breathing is comical , get a grip man.
Is Fugue a good replacement for Ruan Mei if you don't have RM? Like, can I run Firefly, HMC, Fugue and Gallagher as a viable team comp or is Ruan Mei's buffs too valuable? I'm considering pulling for Fugue just so I can have a good 3rd slot on my superbreak team since I currently use Asta (instead of RM) but I feel like Fugue will provide a lot more value to my team whilst I wait for the Ruan Mei rerun banner. Also, bonus question, is Robin a suitable substitute for Ruan Mei in superbreak teams or are her buffs just not made for that archtype?
this is legit the first summoning session I'm afraid of as a low spender. I want Fugue so bad, bust as you said, I'm scared she is not aa "future proof", I also don't have firefly yet and would like to pull for her for my first super break team, but I can only guarantee one of the Charakters..
Fugue may not be the top of the top but she have a complete kit for break which fix and enable many units Xueyi can now break anything and get stack faster with exo toughness Himeko is getting even stronger she's arguably the one who benefits the most of Fugue Rappa get a lot stronger too and less dependant of the number of enemies to get stacks Boothill can now get his stacks faster and be less dependant of his ultimate to break May even be able to create an Acheron superbreak.. Fugue feels "future proof" in a way that she does everything you need from a superbreak enabler.. and well it's sure new MC will be broken, even if he wasn't he can't stay harmony forever so he will needs a replacement at some points As for Firefly it's true she may progressively fall off due to her "simplicity" while other breakers can only go up, she have no other synergy than breaking, she already break everything regardless of elements, Fugue doesn't really add anything to her unlike other units
Not sure if it was covered in the video and it went over my head. but ontop of all of this, Fugue, and HMC super break actually stacks. so when you attack a broken enemy, the super break damage triggers twice for every instance. meaning more super break damage, ontop of the initial break damage and exo break. making her pretty insane.
A Strong synergy that I'm not seeing a lot of people talking about and maybe it's not as strong as i think the numbers look. But they do look really good right next to each other. By pear luck I happen to have an E1S1 Lingsha. My Lingsha has an extra 50% weakness break efficiency and 20% def shred and increases dmg taken by 18% coupled with increasing super break dmg by 25% when enemies are inflicted with befog. If we include Fugue at S1 we are getting 100% uptime on superbreak by her simply existing, 23% def shred, the ability to reduce toughness regardless of weakness type by 50% of the orginal toughness dmg, and increases break dmg by 18%. Between both units u are getting 43% def shred, 36%increase dmg taken, with befog applied that goes up to 61% increase to dmg taken. To me that sounds extremely busted. Add fugue's E1 and Lingsha now has 100% weakness break efficiency. Slot Ruan Mei in, 150% weakness break efficiency. That E1 is looking mighty hard to pass up. And this duo can be slot anywhere since fugue makes every character a superbreak character. This is all caused by the fact that i luck sacked Lingsha's E1 and not everyone has that luck.
Considering Lingsha is a summoner breaker, a remembrance summoner on dps is going to be insane. Another great thing about Fugue and Lingsha, is they create a good aoe def shred core with more consistency and damage than running only Pela. Not to mention Lingsha having a high attack volume, lets her generate stacks fast for Acheron. Then there's Hunt March who is going to just go crazy with Lingsha as a shifu, or Ratio getting a new alt fua team with them. The two of them cover so much for a team, that you can pretty much slot them in anywhere.
Lingsha is where they gotten the IDEA's to make summons :P cause of Fu Xuan being untargetable and never dies..so basically summons were a attempt to trying to nerf Lingsha. then they said why not make summons anyway. then decide nevermind only 40% pulled for Lingsha, so we can hold off the Rerun for indefinetly.
Fugue is a skip for me because Sunday E0S1 drained me of all my funds and I'm personally saving for Anaxa and Phainon. My only break unit right now is Firefly as well, although I might want to pick up Boothill on his rerun, depending on when it is. Idk if I would get Fugue on her rerun. I think if I were to get her, other than Firefly and potentially Boothill, I'd probably use her with Himeko. Don't have Lingsha and as fun as she looks, she's not a character I really want to invest in.
@jamess359 obviously characters made for break will benefit far more with Fugue, however. And characters made for Fugue will also have more synergy with her. I don't need a character like Fugue on my account, that's just how it is.
I don't know still need to test it once Fugue hits live. but welt is functioning cause Fugue is SP regainer, Welt isn't good enough DPS to be a main DPS. so Fugue SP positive and giving Foxian Prayer to Welt who can then spam his Skill 2/3 turns, means you can have more action delay without sacrificing Acheron Skill DPS. but this is in theorie. I still need to test the delay in Reality, is it strong enough to perma delay like Ruan Mei (who together with Fugue shuts down enemies who are toughness broken)
I'm kinda new so idk but my plan looks like this I have 140 pulls rn for her + big Herta If I get Fugue, huzzah! If I lose 50/50, save for Herta bc I want her + her lc If I get Fugue I will pull for Boothill too because yeehaw If I don't, I will focus on remembrance characters (I'm not pulling for Sunday tho because I don't like his new design idk what imma do about that but whatever!)
That is the way to go for as NEW F2P player, you still don't have a terrific team. and sadly you need a top DPSER so Herta is not a skip for you. if you get Fugue congrats. Then you will pull Herta late on 3.0 and her LC. if you don't get Fugue, then you got garantee Herta and her LC.
They are trolling, one is a bronya but not bronya pro max. but made max for future hope with summons but needs E0S1. the other looks so boring but is plain Broken for F2P at E0S0. So this is ultimate troll test, are people smart enough to figure it out. FOMO test to the extreme.
@@drakehound2244what do you think though because im still confused whether to pull Fugue or not. I have Sunday E0S1 because of personal liking reason, but Fugue does kinda have pull value if MC were better on Remembrance path Genuinely Im still in dilemma about this fiasco banner 🗿 I do have Aventurine E0S0, Acheron E2S1, Firefly E0S1, Lingsha E0S0, Fuxuan E0S0, no Jiaoqiu tho (he dodges twice) So usually my main teams are 1. FF, HMC, Ruan Mei, Lingsha 2. Acheron, Fuxuan, Pela, Sunday 3. Yunli, Huohuo, Robin, Topaz Do you think Fugue worth pulling for my account?
i gotta know, why is every guide-maker acting as if the remembrance MC is gonna be some broken ah mf that is a must build? i skip fugue since i only have firefly as a break dps and HMC with ruan mei should be more then enough to keep that team going for now (his might change few weeks/months later) and with how broken HMC is fugue might be a slight (maybe a decent) upgrade but she is not a must pull...am i wrong?
Considering i did over 175 pulls, I just to get sunday, I'm skipping fugue because I want that other lightning dps that has a summon that's coming out soon
I'd consider Fugue as much as a must pull as Ruan Mei was when she first came out. I'm definitely biased for Tingyun though, also I'm sick of using the MC in my FF team, I hate that dancing ult so much. 😅
Remember guys Super break is a Mechanic not characters. It ain't going anywhere as long as HMC exists. For all we know any of the future characters could be break characters.
every stack of boothill increses their break efficienty by 50%, with 3 stacks and ruan mei and fugue E1 boothill gains 250% break efficienty and it's absolute insane
I think it’s original toughness damage not break efficiency for boothill talent. This is better because the efficiency increases from Ruan Mei or Fugue multiply the whole thing instead of adding to it, resulting in 500% the amount of toughness compared to without stacks. (100% original toughness +150% from stacks) * (1 efficiency base + 0.5 ruan mei + 0.5 fugue E1)
I'm not really interested in the summon meta, and I don't really like sunday so I didn't pull for him. And my only break dps is e1 firefly, so i guess I should go for her e2 then? i'm already 60 pulls in and I have a guaranteed pull, but since i'm f2p I think after I get her I won't be able to get Herta, which sucks because i only have 4 star herta and himeko erudition characters.
Lot of people bringing up the LEAKED boss without context. Bro there is no shot that they put out a boss that you can never break. It has to be a mechanic similar to SAM.
We literally have already had AS bosses with locked toughness that unlock when you kill minions. This will almost certainly be the exact same. No idea why people are up in arms about it. It would make absolutely zero sense for hoyo to lock break characters out of the break mode.
Yep, and even if (big if) they go out of their way to completely cuck Superbreak, I highly doubt it'll be on both halves of MOC. CN would literally eat them alive lol.
@@kingsimba9513 there is also the consideration that toughness locking while obviously completely stopping superbreak, also makes basically everyone a lot weaker in general as well. Toughness/element weakness is just too central to HSR's combat system to lock everything down in order to neuter break units. Honestly I don't see break going anywhere. I wouldn't even be surprised if we see a new break DPS in 3.X at some point since there is an argument to be made that Fugue's kit does not fully mesh with any one of the premier break units entirely.
Fuge and Firefly Lc is 60% vulnerability on top of Lingsha it’s 85% break damage vulnerability along with 43% def ignore from break set and Fuge just tossing it out there
I'm sure unconditional, every DPS that has ever or will ever exist, being able to do 50% toughness reduction on every skill, basic, ult, or FUA they do, is completely useless, and Fugue is just a Harmony MC replacement for Super Break that barely keeps up. I'm also sure her ability to grant debuff application to all actions taken by other units will definitely never be utilized with characters that love debuff applications. And I'm also 100% certain her ability to do this on her entire team at E6 with 50% break efficiency and 20% Break Damage is just a "for fun" ability. Or maybe Fugue is actually really broken. Maybe. Possibly.
Sad Break DOTs aren't also doubled with exo toughness. I would also love to have BE Silver Wolf pop off with those Quantum Breaks, but yeah Devs say no
Black swan already apply debuff on every units skill basic ult and gives 25 res pen to every element fugue ain't doing nothing crazy except boosting break she def not a must pull especially if u don't like break
Guys!! Its the hoyou net we're dealing with again.... basically hoyo always releases characters that look mid/bad because its a building block for the meta and they roll around that meta for a lap or two before making another building block for another meta... Remember shinobu in genshin...everyone shat on her when released... immediately after dendro was released she just became the best 4* for dendro and she's not the only oneshe's not tge only one...sampo for dot(i know he's not that good now but he's still a Viable option) jingyuan was a prototype for remembrance and Sunday is the buiding block for that archetype (i understand the difference is quite big but Sunday is a 5* and after almost 2y hoyo had caught a grip on how to make characters The way to escape that net is to ask yourself (keep in mind that likeability of a character always comes in play) "sich archetype that can sustain the biggest number of patches while i work on the next archetype" Break can be countered by giving enemies weakened reduction immunity but until now wasn't fully focused on (Sunday boss etc..) Dot is already countering itself with how slow/low the dmg goes even with kafka FUA until now hasn't seen much counter except elemental coverage...(Fexiao fixes it i guess) Hyper had took severe dmg during the past patches but it's recovering slowly Double dps is still on development (im not talking about jingliu/blade) but the only problem is your relics and support cover i guess If i missed something do tell me though 😂
Fugue broke any fire weak pure fiction: himeko/fugue/ruan mei/DDD hmc is busted Himeko spamming her pizza cutter because every enemy now has 2 break bars, so it's easy to get 3 fua points with 5 onfield enemies Each break will give hmc 10 energy and we have infinite small enemies with 2 break bars to break/kill Hmc spamming their ultimate with the free energy they get, bringing everyone at the top of the turn list with DDD 👀
Waiting for the god like showcase of Welt's Punishment team (Break-Delay team HMC, Ruan and Fugue) been asking for this for ages. I want to see that Welt dmg increase on broken enemies escalate to the stars now lol.
My problem is, I’d pull her bc I love Boothill, but he seems slightly behind Firefly, Acheron, or Feixiao (in my account). And I really want to get Mydei, Castorize, and the Ice Nihility guy, and they are all back to back. 💸
The "Summon Meta" aint gonna be any different from what we have right now. Summons still can crit, still break, still apply DOT, and still support your team by healing, shielding, and buffing them. Its the same gameplay concept ut with a fresh coat of paint.
I Got to disagree with you on this one, she's not a must pull not any character really they can be must pulls in ones own book like hence for me is Aventurine and Fu Xuan, but its ones owns preference. I'll make it easy for yawl. These 3 up and coming characters are definitely getting power crept, I got word that there's 1 S -Tier and 1 S - Tier + long term Meta characters coming somewhere in the 3.0 patches where one will be meta in other patches this can change of course but, it's INSANE! {Aglaea & Herta~ A-Tier Characters} Both and Fugue all three characters are NOT must pulls!. Unless its a must pull in ones own Book of course. :) None of these are leaks there're theory's like everything else when it comes down to it. If I want characters to do better than her well ofc there probably will be characters that will make Fugue look like a pebble although she is an amazing break effect character and my most best team is break and I'm not pulling her... Funny.
Must Pull are characters that can fit into any team, and brings enough utility to fit any team. doesn't require anybody else. Like Lingsha Fugue and The Herta (does the Herta have any needed team member and boosted DPS already) , Acheron wasn't a must pull at all, why? cause she needed this and that. Fugue E0S0 Lingsha E0S0 and The Herta E0S0 works. not needed. that is what makes it a Must Pull, same as Fei Xiao E0S0. Robin E0S0 Ruan Mei E0S0 ... look at that a list of mustpull that works at a budget cost. all those E0S0 work in any team, are not optimal, but they atleast work. unless you don't want to play this game, then you don't need to pull anybody. and want to waste tons of bricked MATS on shitty 4 star. that get benched fast enough.
I'm skipping her. Maybe I'll get her later if she doesn't get powercrept or anything. 3.x is stacked. I've seen the future. Sunday is more of a must pull than she is rn. She's a safe skip til her rerun comes out (especially if you already have Ruan Mei).
Why is sunday a Must Pull? cause of summons then maybe, cause Algaea isn't looking so hot currently with her nerfs and high Energy cost Ultimate, that you need Houhou to make it work. action advance, you can use Bronya, must pull cause you like Sunday, then I agree some characters are must pull for people. cause they like it. nothing to do with meta or not, a character you love is a better then a character you are forced to pull, one you invest time and effort into, the other you play with a grudge cause you wanted the other character.
If you love Firefly so much that you want E2 then go for it, the most important is to remember which character you truely love, E0 Fugue is better for firefly, but you have to grind all her traces level her up, find a lightcon and relics. (even if she is so simple to equip with relics) so make sure if you pull E0 Fugue cause it is better you truely want it. cause she makes Firefly able to carry when you don't have harmony MC (cause of true damage of RMC who also stacks with every dpser)
I started recently so I don’t ruan Mei so i don’t know if I should pull fugue. I have robin, topaz, fexiao, adeventurine, and Sunday. I don’t know if skipping to 3.0 is better for me or not
if you start recently PULL fugue, cause she is SP positive. you cannot spam her skill, cause it is disabled once you buffed somebody. really she is made for you new players. So if you pull some older character cause of losing 50/50 that character can be used cause of her skill. really you will come to love her cause she fits into any team. and sadly you need 2 teams. do not make a mistake and skipping her. like you did Lingsha. even if you lose 50/50 it sets you up for Algaea garantee since you pulled Sunday already. but I would recommend Herta for Team 2. but you already pulled sunday for Algaea.
My logic is "why would they release a new mechanic (exo toughness) just to never revisit it ever again?" , so yes I would be surprised if none of the new units in 3.x synergizes with her. Im getting her for my rappa tho ❤
Sooo what if you're a new player who doesn't have Ruan Mei or any super break dps (or any 5 star dps besides Ratio) I do want Fugue but not sure if its worth using pulls for her when I should be saving for Aglaea to have 1 good dps. (I have Aventurine and Sunday)
Pull her she is a universal character that can enhance ANY team. cause she is SP postive and a Regainer fool proof, cause of her two passives and not able to spam skills. Especially if you are a NEW player her ultimate and enhanced basic attack makes her look good even if you put the wrong relics and do not min max her for break. of her enhance attack scaling off attack and her ultimate scaling off attack. that is why I recommend her to F2P/New player. even if you build team 2 she can move there and enhanced old shitty dpser, you gotten to work better cause of her foxian prayer.
See what I like fugue for is you can make anyone break so you can use your fav dps with her and break any element so that’s lit outside of her break team niche
Im building up jades for fugue. I pulled for sunday and accidentally... yes accidentally got e2. Now im scared. I can only clear pure fiction up to the 3rd one and i want aglaea obv. I also have firefly team. Im monthly pass payer. Wtf i do halp?
I already run out of stellar jades because of acheron and sunday, I've been losing 50/50 with high pity, since penacony, so I need at least 160 pulls for each limited 5 star. Now I don't even have enough to do 10 pulls..
i have no doubt she is going to be good but i have to be honest i really want to see and use the summons meta and I'm going to save. I'm sure she will rerun in the future but i would love to go into 3.0 with the new shiny fresh playstyle that hasn't started yet and be able to use my sunday with all the new summon characters
Bruh, smack said that firefly and rappa get buffed the same amount when that moc exo-toughness buff was active but now he says that fugue buffs rappa more
I said exo toughness benefits all break characters & it's a terrible excuse to defend FF. Firefly not benefitting from it as much as a rappa is a skill issue on her kit design.
If u have rappa and like her, u should get fugue. If u have a break team but no ruan mei and u are struggeling, u should get fugue (she wont make your break team awesome overnight but she'll help alot) If u dont have firefox and your acheron is struggeling, u should get fugue (fugue is kinda a 5star pela with more stacks) For booty u would want sunday over fugue i think (i dont have a booty) For firefly fugue is nice if u plan to double superbreak. Should be nice for break himeko aswell
I'm definetly not investing any gems into Fugue and super break at this point anymore. I feel like this is the last buff for that whole playstyle for the next while and as someone who skipped Rappa, Fireflop and Lingsha she won't elevate my account that much. Unlucky for my Boothill but he's been doing a good job even without HMC's super break so I'll be fine without her. Rememberance definetly a higher priority to invest into IMO especially for newer players since we'll likely see another "Acheron outclassing the whole game" situation with the next big hype 3.x dpses.
i liked phantilsyisa's version of tingyun 😓😓 i thought tingyun remastered was gonna have the personality of tsundere or atleast offer help in exchange of something like a truce or something
the other option I think plays a huge roll (at least for ftp players) is that summoner mc is coming... If you skip Fugue for Aglaea, you still have harmony MC for breaks. OR If you get Fugue and skip Aglaea, you will have summoner MC for Sunday to buff. As long as you get either Fugue or Aglaea you can still have 2 teams alive and kicking and I like being able to have that option.
that is why I told people to skip Sunday, with Sunday sadly you are locked into that Summoner META.. and they probaly pull for Algaea to warrant their pulling for Sunday. (but my recommendation is skipping Algaea to wait for Castorice) sadly with how they are now doing Algaea it is another Acheron. needs this and need that. while with Fugue you don't need anything. but this is discounting if you LOVE Sunday, then by all means pull Sunday. you hate Fugue, then by all means skip Fugue. never pull a character you HATE, and always pull a character you love. cause you need to slave it out and invest into those character. better do it with somebody you love then somebody you hate.
@@drakehound2244lol lot people pull for sunday bcs of castorice not aglaea. if sunday rerun with castorice release then you cook bro to pull 2 character at the same patch. if people want to focus on summon meta why bother to pull for fugue its simple as that 😭 even thought fugue can make all character with break. but for me break archetype are old news anyway and its getting boring
That is a good choice cause you love Fire Fly, that is something nobody can take away from you... and I will not convince you otherwise, cause I am also going for FF with the wallet :P even knowing she will be just support for fire weakness implant.
I really like fugue, but as someone who only has Gallagher and hmc for super break teams, I will happily skip (lost Ruan Mei 50/50). Helps that I’m also super stoked for Aglaea and have fua and Acheron+jiaoqiu so I’m not missing too much
Not to say she’s a must skip or must pull, but RMC isn’t a must… You can use Robin and Sunday with Aglaea and use your HMC with the break team. 🤔 I rlly want to play Aglaea, but I dont think I’ll be able to afford her if I go for fugue
Got enough pulls saved to guarantee her if I lose 50/50. But if I win it, i'm going for the LC. If I win with that and still have pulls left over, I'm thinking of going for E1. Otherwise I'll pick it up on her rerun
Fugue can't brick your account is SP regainer.. so you can't even spam her SKILL.. she will fit any team cause of her passive. she is workable at E0S0. Sunday you need atleast E0S1, yes you need that S1 to make him work. he is easily replacable if you have Bronya who can action advance Anybody at E1 with sunday lightcon S1. she comes out even more SP postive then Sunday. Sunday will get a RERUN faster if some Rembrance character is so UBER that it needs Sunday. Fugue rerun wil be a while.
But most important is if you LOVE Sunday more then Fugue, then summon Sunday, cause nothing is worst then playing with a character you hate. even if you realise it is the wrong choice, sunday isn't so bad.. that he is unworkable without other team members. unlike Acheron... so skip characters that NEED this and THAT. and stupid bots who say you will need this and that. then it is meta. something that doesn't need anybody else, is always more META then somebody who need this and that to work.
@@drakehound2244 yeah... I think I'll go for Fugue if Sunday need S1. that's unrealistic for my current gacha resources (I'm not even including HSR collab in the future). thanks for tips!
if you play break (and not firefly) go for fugue. if you play literally anything else and are interested in future remembrance characters go for sunday. his lc is extremely powerful, but not mandatory. overall sunday for general usage, fugue for break
She would be a must pull for me, but I only have E0 FF as my break dps plus with how strong Therta is looking to be unfortunately it looks like must skip her if I want both aglaea and Therta
Plot armor? Cope, they can powercreep break characters by increasins shield sizes enough and have new characters break them easily. Or have enemies immune to shieldbreaking unless you use the new mechanic a new character have
And they can powercreep everybody by introducing a Zillion HP and? and are Break Characters not HYPER characters too? like Lingsha already proven, so much that they bricked Fugue without ONE ATTACK bonus in the traces. what is your point, for playing a game where you do more damage by removing the WHITE BAR. you hate break so much play another game :P
It's already happening in beta there's a new weakness locked enemy BE teams in general will die in amphoreus lol fugue is a bait for rappa havers.@@drakehound2244
@@shjinriven3408 LMAO more FAKE Rumors, that same system was used in LuoFou and Aventurine, anything else you guys eat everything so easily hoping break will be destroyed. even then if break is destroyed they just respec into Attack Critical and Critical damage, and done no need for new Characters and keep their super break BONUS DAMAGE. but if break is destroyed all other DPSERS suffer more, cause they don't have the bonus Super Break damage. so for your own sake I hope you don't play this game. or else you can suffer even more HP inflation. cause they balance out the white BAR with even MORE DAMAGE reduction.
@@shjinriven3408 Oh do tell me from 3.0 Hoolay will be BREAK SUPER BREAK to now 3.1 HOOLAY Will be break Super break, 10 years later end of service, game is gone. SUPERBREAK is broken see we are right.
Pull her for himeko she will enable other DPSer too who are old. till you finally have 2 meta team. even then she herself is support for the most META character ever Lingsha :P
@@StreakBreaker42 you know that the character is bad yet you pulled and invested. That is stupidity my guy, and you look cringe mocking names lil bro. literal manchild energy
why fugue is a must skip; not enough summons for her and the 32 characters after her
Yes after Sunday pulls we are drained. Blame HoYo for releasing too many characters.
Agreed 👍
Same. I blew my current savings on Sunday and his LC.
who the hell is getting all 32 characters?
@@anapple6912 Content creators, whales and people that have a serious gamba problem.
5:30 Knowing HSR and the direction of the game, a 5-Star Remembrance Break DPS is possible.
@@arumicyak this is exactly what I was thinking about. We even have an Erudition character that applies DoT (Serval) so the sky really is the limit with these kit designs.
Yep.
Exactly, the only identity of remembrance is having a summon, that's it. The possibilities are endless. You could have them focused on DOT where the summon applying a random DOT and the character detonating it like Kafka, or they could be a healer and shielder where the character heals on skill and the summon applies a shield whenever they act.
Knowing HSR and the direction of the game, a 5-Star DPS is possible....
But...but Smack....3.0?
I feel like Sunday and fugue gonna be on a lot of 3.0 character teams
Summon meta is overhyped tbh...
Better unlock that wallet
@@Yoyo-sy5klThis comment would age terribly in 3.2 and maybe even in 3.1.
@@Yoyo-sy5kl using the word overhype on every future proof characters is overhyped
Dps Welt rn:"IT'S NOT YOUR TURN AND IT'S NOT YOUR TURN"
a welt comment ?! infront of my eyes?! as a welt main
Same. With all this delay talk, my mind went to super break Welt.
Ngl my e1s1 might move from sub dps to dps now
Fugue is a must pull because she fundamentally changes the flow of combat by being able to double break enemy units, having permanent application of super break, delaying enemy timelines, and giving a DPS rainbow toughness breaking while also doing def down
*cries in Silver Wolf*
Xueyi + Fugue's rainbow toughness reduction is gonna go fucking absolutely nutty.
Super break won't fall off any time soon... the shit I have seen people do to make E6 Arlan work because all you need to do is stack SPD and tank stats for mainstats and all Break Effect... Arlan for fuck's sake.
Have you seen the super hoolay coming next patch? 😂
@@ABC-yj6cythere is a second side in endgame modes (also superbreak was already not great into Hoolay)
What is the Arlan build? Mine sharing here? The relics and stat
All this just for them to drop a better unit a patch or 2 later
@@ABC-yj6cyclearly u don't play AS where the AS buffs triggers ONLY when the boss is WEAKNESS BROKEN, they alr made a similar boss aka aventurine where u kill the mobs and reduced the toughness.
Any character that ultimately changes the battle mechanics of the combat in HSR is arguably a must pull.
Silver wolf?
Sparkle?
@@MarquezDeluxe imagine a new dps that can consume as many skill point as possible to do massive damage and sparkle give that dps 7 skill point, imagine that
Dhil crying in the corner @@zycragodlmv2831
@@Omnigul mono quantum just hasnt finished cooking yet (im coping 😭)
i can already smell 3.x enemys, that won´t be breakable
Ngl at that point that's just a blatant and terrible game design choice. You can hinder the ability to break enemies by increasing toughness or temporarily locking it, but why would they make them completely unbreakable? Saying the enemies won't be breakable is just coping now and you're not the only one preaching this so eagerly
@@MalciferMephistoleaks man
@@Condensed_rock oh I've seen them. They're by no means "unbreakable." You just can't brute force it anymore and that's fine. Making them actually unbreakable though? That's the dumbest thing the game can pull off.
Well Adventurine still now the most op shielder they still haven't let any shield piercing monster out yet til now ... why target Fugue lol
Then people will be quitting bcs of powercrept lol
There's no denying that fugue will be a very strong addition to the superbreak roster but f2p and low spenders JAVE to choose between either buffing superbreak to its maximum or going in for the new summon meta
I plan on skipping since I wanna pull for herta and also heard she isn't allat with firefly which is the only break dps I got as opposed to someone like rappa which greatly helps her
Thats true she aint all that with firefly.
But u can run triple superbreak with fugue. 1 from firefly, 1 from hmc and 1 from fugue (i dont have firefly but it should be atleast 2 superbreaks if firefly her 1 doesnt count)
Mixing this with welt against imaginary weak enemies would be interesting, like Welt, Ruan Mei , HMC and Fugue be interesting
I was already gettin her but i never stopped to realize the potential of summon-break & summon-dot characters. I had assumed that it'd always be crit, good point!
My thing is this: It's not that I don't WANT to pull for Fugue. It's moreso I CAN'T. I pulled Sunday and trying him out on other teams, he's definitely an improvement for my account. However, I've been waiting for Fugue for a very long time and I fear I won't have enough pulls to even get her. I no longer have guaranteed (Used on Sunday), so if I were to lose the 50/50, I'd be fine with Himeko E1, E2 Welt (IT'S BEEN AGES!!), or a E5 Bronya. I'd crash out if I get an E4 Bailu or an E1 Geppie.
Edit: I'd also like to point out that I was a guy that didn't care for Sunday until trying out his kit.
yes after Sunday pulls i had 3k Jades left. HoYo is releasing too many characters so we cannot pull for everyone.
have you forgotten that yanqing is also a standard banner character?
@@dragofilps5065 You're getting a Yanqing bro 😂
@@theoDSP I am left with no jades. It took me 180 pulls just to get him. I've never had to hit the maximum pity before this. Thankfully I got his lightcone at 50 💀
gods ive been saving from 2.4 to 2.6(except Feixiao), Pulled for Sunday and his S1 and i still have more than enough to pull for both Fugue and The Herta, leaks are really helping to plan my pulling sessions as F2P
how much do you have?
@@anapple6912 around 25k jades with 50 pulls into pity
I wanted the Herta but, now after seen her design and no summoner is a let down so skip for me.
@@anapple6912 around 25k jades with 50 into pity
@@anapple6912 don't regret(yet) for not pulling on new 2.4-2.6 characters at all, maybe only Lingsha a bit stings
I knew the Fugue slander will only last until the banner came around.
It's always like that. Even Jiaoqiu and Lingsha are all the same.
Doomposters saying Lingsha is bad. Worst skip of my life
@@XnathOW I pulled for her because she is waifu and she heals. Apparently she is becoming that one woman swiss army knife.
@@misora25chan I was on a break of the game so I didnt pulled her but would had loved too. I had no reason to get Sunday because I failed to pull Ruby and I didnt went for the general and wasnt interested either. I knew Fugue was going to be a better unit for literally EVERYONE that had pulled characters since the start of the game so yeah. When sunday came around, every youtuber was slandering Fugue as to not to pull for her in favor for future meta when Fugue literally patches all you have already pulled. UA-camrs would say anything dumb for views.
Also misogyny works best here bc Sunday didn’t get any hate
I'm gonna try getting her. I do see her value not only for the current meta, but also for the future
01:08 "OBJECTIVELY ☝️🤓" man this is so funny 😂
Thats the Saintontas in him coming out 🤣💯
first time i've ever heard that word used correctly in the gacha comm lmao
Fugue is a must for break teams especially with the HP/DEF inflation but i really want to get The Herta. so maybe i'll pull for Fugue in her rerun
In your opinion, if you only have enough pulls to guarantee fugue or the herta, which would you suggest pulling for? I already have all the super break members, and I probably plan to keep using hmc, and I really want herta and I think I’m gonna be too low to guarantee her and idk if I wanna risk the 50/50 for herta
Honestly that’s a tough one man. I would say herta the emanator is probably gonna be insane because she will elevate the entire erudition path.
Honestly, if you dont plan on geting aglaea, then just get Big herta and use you HMC for break, but know that you wont be able to use RMC and therefore summon meta (at least withought a copium team) until you either get sunday or fugue. I dont know if you look at leaks so i will not spoil much but big Herta is insanely good.
If you are truely F2P so NO Montly Express, NO battle Pass, then save for Herta she is also made for F2P and her damage buff recently confirms it, F2P players lack damage. not so much utility. if you are Montly Express Battle Pass payer, then with the Free Jade in 3.0 you will get Herta definetly if you play every day. the extra bonus is garantee to pull Herta.
But Fugue and Herta are made for F2P or like Gacha Smack says for casuals. who want to grow, Fugue is made for people who pulled old characters where the DPS didn't had that toughness reduction, Himeko Welt DHIL etc. to remain functioning in future. if you want Algaea cause you pulled Sunday, then you would skip on Fugue and Herta or have to pull out the wallet. one of the Reason I told people skip Sunday, Bronya functions well enough if you pulled her in the free ticket, you could have skipped Sunday.
@@GachaSmack07 that’s kinda what I was thinking. I get the battle pass usually and sometimes the monthly pass so I’m gonna do the math towards the end of her banner and see if I can feasibly get both, and if not I think I’ll go for herta. I’d love to have a good ice unit too, thanks for the response man appreciate it!
@@drakehound2244even if I just lost my 50/50 and have no pity built up, I shoudl get enough to get fugue and a guaranteed herta if I get battle passes and the monthly pass you think? That’s like 270 pulls if I go to hard pity each time (which seems unlikely but could happen). How many pulls do people think we’ll get in 3.0?
Thanks for making these videos! I'm a returning player from about 2 yrs ago, so much has been released since then and I appreciate how easy and understanding with the info you put out, breaking down the stats needed for armors sets, ornament sets and also directing on what should be pulled and why for f2p people. It sucks to save gems for months, only to feel like you rolled on something you don't need. Subscribing for more!
2 years ago???
@@kiyotakaayanokoji3507 Well, whenever the first originally Jing Yuan banner was, that was the only banner I remember LMAO. I remember playing when he was the first one that came out, and I got bored cause I ran out of content.
Fugue is being slept on like Ruan Mei early on. She can elevate ALL units. A better version of the best path the MC has taken at present. What is there to lose?
Personally, this comment isn’t to persuade anyone to pull. You get the waifu you want. I’m just saying that there isn’t a reason NOT to pull her in term of meta.
I got Acheron and Jing Yuan. Another Lightning DPS will not help me whatsoever. My eruditions also got their best in slot teams already. I’m not pulling for Algaea or THE Herta.
The desire to save for them will be what helps you get what you want.
I wouldn't really compare Fugue and Ruan Mei here. People who slept on her for whatever reason are just plain fucking stupid, poor (in-game) or simply missed her, as she was the first full team buffer with multiple buffs happening at once, fitting in almost every single team no problem, even our forgotten DoT team. Fugue is the new super break enabler, meaning her best team and probably most played one, is going to be based around super break. Just in terms of value alone, Ruan Mei still takes the cake here imo, especially since she would replace HMC and people who don't change them into Remembrance still have "budget" Fugue available. (no hate or anything, just my 2 cents about the comparison)
@@blackdust7353 well, assuming you used the word "slept" to actually say "skipped"( other way it would make no sense you took poorness as a possible reason). They is another legitimate reason you forgot. Having dignity. Because clearly people pulling her have none of it (dignity) , to pull for the worse limited 5* in term of design 😬
@@kirby9427 Well, alright, you have a point there. It should be "skipped", not "slept". I think your point about dignity is stupid tho. Some people like me rarely give a single shit about the "lame design" and i will admit, Ruan Mei is one of the worst in that case with Topaz. But she is a must for most people just for her kit, so idk what dignity you are refering to exactly? Cause i just want to build strong teams and have fun with the game
i will be getting the herta and fugue but i am not sure about the summoners....
however i am sure that i wont be getting castroice since she looks hella mid unless her personality or in game design changes my mind.
Fugue still a big skip new meta 3.x Will be hp deplit.
Just imagine Pure Fiction a team with Herta, Jade, Himeko, and Fugue... the FUAs are just gonna loop omg
She's a unique nihility unit that enables break centric teams but also allows you to go in with a team thats out of element and still manage to break bars and lower defense. I think her kit is very good and universal in a lot of teams. She's just better when you can really delve in on the break.
Silver wolf-
The people who are saying Fugue is a mid unit are Firefly mains that’s it. But anyways us Rappa , Himeko , Boothill & Xueyi mains are finna be eating good lol
saying things out of your ass because nobody said fugue is mid. she enables every break character including firefly lower cost team to 0 cycle. she's an easy skip for most players compared to sunday and for an obvious shift in meta starting in 3.0, not that because she's mid.
@ you definitely haven't seen the bs that was said about her on reddit , twitter or tiktok so i'm definitely not saying shit outta my ass bro.
@electrickzy let's say you're correct (which is questionable), where tf did you even get that the people who said that are firefly mains lmaoo, i guarantee it's just you tryna blame firefly mains for breathing. nobody says she's mid if they know how to play the game.
@@electrickzyall bark no proof,
@@ryuki9788 You are clueless brother if you think no one is doomposting her rn. Also saying i'm tryna blame firefly mains for breathing is comical , get a grip man.
Boothill might be extremely disgusting in those hyperbreak teams, and I'm all for it 😂
I'm currently thinking of saving all the way to Castorice, but Fugue would be my only pull in between.
Same, I'm getting fugue so my break team lasts into 3x and I'm saving until castorice
Smack gonna get two copies of Fugue I bet.
nahhhh, a second time? nahhhh no wayy.
watch as he struggles to get her
Is Fugue a good replacement for Ruan Mei if you don't have RM? Like, can I run Firefly, HMC, Fugue and Gallagher as a viable team comp or is Ruan Mei's buffs too valuable? I'm considering pulling for Fugue just so I can have a good 3rd slot on my superbreak team since I currently use Asta (instead of RM) but I feel like Fugue will provide a lot more value to my team whilst I wait for the Ruan Mei rerun banner. Also, bonus question, is Robin a suitable substitute for Ruan Mei in superbreak teams or are her buffs just not made for that archtype?
if you don't have RM, and wanna build super break team, i will say yes fugue is very good. you can try her in trial
this is legit the first summoning session I'm afraid of as a low spender. I want Fugue so bad, bust as you said, I'm scared she is not aa "future proof", I also don't have firefly yet and would like to pull for her for my first super break team, but I can only guarantee one of the Charakters..
Fugue may not be the top of the top but she have a complete kit for break which fix and enable many units
Xueyi can now break anything and get stack faster with exo toughness
Himeko is getting even stronger she's arguably the one who benefits the most of Fugue
Rappa get a lot stronger too and less dependant of the number of enemies to get stacks
Boothill can now get his stacks faster and be less dependant of his ultimate to break
May even be able to create an Acheron superbreak..
Fugue feels "future proof" in a way that she does everything you need from a superbreak enabler.. and well it's sure new MC will be broken, even if he wasn't he can't stay harmony forever so he will needs a replacement at some points
As for Firefly it's true she may progressively fall off due to her "simplicity" while other breakers can only go up, she have no other synergy than breaking, she already break everything regardless of elements, Fugue doesn't really add anything to her unlike other units
Absolutely getting her, my midriff rangers love her, and at e1 she can replace my e0 RM in one team so now I can use my rangers in both sides :D
Not sure if it was covered in the video and it went over my head. but ontop of all of this, Fugue, and HMC super break actually stacks. so when you attack a broken enemy, the super break damage triggers twice for every instance. meaning more super break damage, ontop of the initial break damage and exo break. making her pretty insane.
yea im def getting her u really solidified her place on my account thanks smack!!!
A Strong synergy that I'm not seeing a lot of people talking about and maybe it's not as strong as i think the numbers look. But they do look really good right next to each other. By pear luck I happen to have an E1S1 Lingsha. My Lingsha has an extra 50% weakness break efficiency and 20% def shred and increases dmg taken by 18% coupled with increasing super break dmg by 25% when enemies are inflicted with befog. If we include Fugue at S1 we are getting 100% uptime on superbreak by her simply existing, 23% def shred, the ability to reduce toughness regardless of weakness type by 50% of the orginal toughness dmg, and increases break dmg by 18%. Between both units u are getting 43% def shred, 36%increase dmg taken, with befog applied that goes up to 61% increase to dmg taken.
To me that sounds extremely busted. Add fugue's E1 and Lingsha now has 100% weakness break efficiency. Slot Ruan Mei in, 150% weakness break efficiency. That E1 is looking mighty hard to pass up. And this duo can be slot anywhere since fugue makes every character a superbreak character. This is all caused by the fact that i luck sacked Lingsha's E1 and not everyone has that luck.
Considering Lingsha is a summoner breaker, a remembrance summoner on dps is going to be insane. Another great thing about Fugue and Lingsha, is they create a good aoe def shred core with more consistency and damage than running only Pela. Not to mention Lingsha having a high attack volume, lets her generate stacks fast for Acheron. Then there's Hunt March who is going to just go crazy with Lingsha as a shifu, or Ratio getting a new alt fua team with them. The two of them cover so much for a team, that you can pretty much slot them in anywhere.
Lingsha is where they gotten the IDEA's to make summons :P cause of Fu Xuan being untargetable and never dies..so basically summons were a attempt to trying to nerf Lingsha. then they said why not make summons anyway. then decide nevermind only 40% pulled for Lingsha, so we can hold off the Rerun for indefinetly.
Everyone can't be skipped anymore who cares at this point time to break F2P!
F2P needs to invest in less archetypes actually. I only have DoT, FuA Super Break but because i now want Memosprite i can't pull fugue
Then there's her E2, which is literally DDD S5.
Money pit.
Yeah getting all her eidolons basically makes her a god. Same with all of Ruan Mei 's eidolons.
Pokke gonna go bankrupt on that banner
Fugue is a skip for me because Sunday E0S1 drained me of all my funds and I'm personally saving for Anaxa and Phainon. My only break unit right now is Firefly as well, although I might want to pick up Boothill on his rerun, depending on when it is.
Idk if I would get Fugue on her rerun. I think if I were to get her, other than Firefly and potentially Boothill, I'd probably use her with Himeko. Don't have Lingsha and as fun as she looks, she's not a character I really want to invest in.
Bruh, she makes any character a break character. You don't need Himeko, Boothill, Firefly nor Lingsha.
@jamess359 obviously characters made for break will benefit far more with Fugue, however. And characters made for Fugue will also have more synergy with her. I don't need a character like Fugue on my account, that's just how it is.
I accidentally got e1 Fugue is she now worth replacing pela in an Acheron team? 50% weakness break efficiency vs def shred?
Can we finally do it? Can we finally run a sustain less Welt with Fugue as the core member?
I don't know still need to test it once Fugue hits live. but welt is functioning cause Fugue is SP regainer, Welt isn't good enough DPS to be a main DPS. so Fugue SP positive and giving Foxian Prayer to Welt who can then spam his Skill 2/3 turns, means you can have more action delay without sacrificing Acheron Skill DPS. but this is in theorie. I still need to test the delay in Reality, is it strong enough to perma delay like Ruan Mei (who together with Fugue shuts down enemies who are toughness broken)
I needed her because of my E2 Firefly. She cooks and glad I got her.
I'm kinda new so idk but my plan looks like this
I have 140 pulls rn for her + big Herta
If I get Fugue, huzzah! If I lose 50/50, save for Herta bc I want her + her lc
If I get Fugue I will pull for Boothill too because yeehaw
If I don't, I will focus on remembrance characters (I'm not pulling for Sunday tho because I don't like his new design idk what imma do about that but whatever!)
That is the way to go for as NEW F2P player, you still don't have a terrific team. and sadly you need a top DPSER so Herta is not a skip for you. if you get Fugue congrats.
Then you will pull Herta late on 3.0 and her LC. if you don't get Fugue, then you got garantee Herta and her LC.
@@drakehound2244 Yep yep
I also have Himeko and Bailu who I'm using. I heard Himeko is good with Fugue and/or Herta so I think I'm gonna be ok
Mihoyo trolling, having two support characters back to back.
They are trolling, one is a bronya but not bronya pro max. but made max for future hope with summons but needs E0S1. the other looks so boring but is plain Broken for F2P at E0S0.
So this is ultimate troll test, are people smart enough to figure it out. FOMO test to the extreme.
@@drakehound2244what do you think though because im still confused whether to pull Fugue or not. I have Sunday E0S1 because of personal liking reason, but Fugue does kinda have pull value if MC were better on Remembrance path
Genuinely Im still in dilemma about this fiasco banner 🗿
I do have Aventurine E0S0, Acheron E2S1, Firefly E0S1, Lingsha E0S0, Fuxuan E0S0, no Jiaoqiu tho (he dodges twice)
So usually my main teams are
1. FF, HMC, Ruan Mei, Lingsha
2. Acheron, Fuxuan, Pela, Sunday
3. Yunli, Huohuo, Robin, Topaz
Do you think Fugue worth pulling for my account?
i gotta know, why is every guide-maker acting as if the remembrance MC is gonna be some broken ah mf that is a must build? i skip fugue since i only have firefly as a break dps and HMC with ruan mei should be more then enough to keep that team going for now (his might change few weeks/months later) and with how broken HMC is fugue might be a slight (maybe a decent) upgrade but she is not a must pull...am i wrong?
Considering i did over 175 pulls, I just to get sunday, I'm skipping fugue because I want that other lightning dps that has a summon that's coming out soon
I'd consider Fugue as much as a must pull as Ruan Mei was when she first came out. I'm definitely biased for Tingyun though, also I'm sick of using the MC in my FF team, I hate that dancing ult so much. 😅
Everyone does. Lol
yeah me too, idk why they are are dancing when in war
Remember guys Super break is a Mechanic not characters. It ain't going anywhere as long as HMC exists. For all we know any of the future characters could be break characters.
nah i'm already sick always see HMC's ultimate dancing animation. so i guess i will pull fugue?
every stack of boothill increses their break efficienty by 50%, with 3 stacks and ruan mei and fugue E1 boothill gains 250% break efficienty and it's absolute insane
I think it’s original toughness damage not break efficiency for boothill talent. This is better because the efficiency increases from Ruan Mei or Fugue multiply the whole thing instead of adding to it, resulting in 500% the amount of toughness compared to without stacks. (100% original toughness +150% from stacks) * (1 efficiency base + 0.5 ruan mei + 0.5 fugue E1)
@@alakazam65yeah, that’s 100 toughness dmg instead of 7( if BH had WBE instead of unique passive)
I don’t need Fugue. I rolled both Firefly & her signature Light cone.
I'm not really interested in the summon meta, and I don't really like sunday so I didn't pull for him. And my only break dps is e1 firefly, so i guess I should go for her e2 then? i'm already 60 pulls in and I have a guaranteed pull, but since i'm f2p I think after I get her I won't be able to get Herta, which sucks because i only have 4 star herta and himeko erudition characters.
fugue e0 is enough cause f2p
Lot of people bringing up the LEAKED boss without context. Bro there is no shot that they put out a boss that you can never break. It has to be a mechanic similar to SAM.
We literally have already had AS bosses with locked toughness that unlock when you kill minions. This will almost certainly be the exact same. No idea why people are up in arms about it. It would make absolutely zero sense for hoyo to lock break characters out of the break mode.
Yep, and even if (big if) they go out of their way to completely cuck Superbreak, I highly doubt it'll be on both halves of MOC. CN would literally eat them alive lol.
@@kingsimba9513CN would eat it.
@@kingsimba9513 there is also the consideration that toughness locking while obviously completely stopping superbreak, also makes basically everyone a lot weaker in general as well. Toughness/element weakness is just too central to HSR's combat system to lock everything down in order to neuter break units.
Honestly I don't see break going anywhere. I wouldn't even be surprised if we see a new break DPS in 3.X at some point since there is an argument to be made that Fugue's kit does not fully mesh with any one of the premier break units entirely.
Fuge and Firefly Lc is 60% vulnerability on top of Lingsha it’s 85% break damage vulnerability along with 43% def ignore from break set and Fuge just tossing it out there
Wow. People are insane to think that the break meta is just going to become irrelevant. If anything it will fuse with new upcoming metas.
I'm sure unconditional, every DPS that has ever or will ever exist, being able to do 50% toughness reduction on every skill, basic, ult, or FUA they do, is completely useless, and Fugue is just a Harmony MC replacement for Super Break that barely keeps up. I'm also sure her ability to grant debuff application to all actions taken by other units will definitely never be utilized with characters that love debuff applications. And I'm also 100% certain her ability to do this on her entire team at E6 with 50% break efficiency and 20% Break Damage is just a "for fun" ability.
Or maybe Fugue is actually really broken. Maybe. Possibly.
Nice application of the satire.
Well done. Got a chuckle out of me.
Sad Break DOTs aren't also doubled with exo toughness.
I would also love to have BE Silver Wolf pop off with those Quantum Breaks, but yeah Devs say no
Black swan already apply debuff on every units skill basic ult and gives 25 res pen to every element fugue ain't doing nothing crazy except boosting break she def not a must pull especially if u don't like break
This patch was golden for me
I got Sunday (10 pull) and Fugue (10 pull)
So will fugue basically double firefly and other character damage with HMC?
I'm glad i don"t care about hardcore challenges, i pull who i want and do 80% of the content anyway.
Smack, if you use Fugue's skill on herself, does she ignore enemy weaknesses, or does that only apply for Fugue's ultimate?
Guys!! Its the hoyou net we're dealing with again.... basically hoyo always releases characters that look mid/bad because its a building block for the meta and they roll around that meta for a lap or two before making another building block for another meta...
Remember shinobu in genshin...everyone shat on her when released... immediately after dendro was released she just became the best 4* for dendro and she's not the only oneshe's not tge only one...sampo for dot(i know he's not that good now but he's still a Viable option) jingyuan was a prototype for remembrance and Sunday is the buiding block for that archetype (i understand the difference is quite big but Sunday is a 5* and after almost 2y hoyo had caught a grip on how to make characters
The way to escape that net is to ask yourself (keep in mind that likeability of a character always comes in play) "sich archetype that can sustain the biggest number of patches while i work on the next archetype"
Break can be countered by giving enemies weakened reduction immunity but until now wasn't fully focused on (Sunday boss etc..)
Dot is already countering itself with how slow/low the dmg goes even with kafka
FUA until now hasn't seen much counter except elemental coverage...(Fexiao fixes it i guess)
Hyper had took severe dmg during the past patches but it's recovering slowly
Double dps is still on development (im not talking about jingliu/blade) but the only problem is your relics and support cover i guess
If i missed something do tell me though 😂
Fugue broke any fire weak pure fiction: himeko/fugue/ruan mei/DDD hmc is busted
Himeko spamming her pizza cutter because every enemy now has 2 break bars, so it's easy to get 3 fua points with 5 onfield enemies
Each break will give hmc 10 energy and we have infinite small enemies with 2 break bars to break/kill
Hmc spamming their ultimate with the free energy they get, bringing everyone at the top of the turn list with DDD 👀
Waiting for the god like showcase of Welt's Punishment team (Break-Delay team HMC, Ruan and Fugue) been asking for this for ages. I want to see that Welt dmg increase on broken enemies escalate to the stars now lol.
My problem is, I’d pull her bc I love Boothill, but he seems slightly behind Firefly, Acheron, or Feixiao (in my account). And I really want to get Mydei, Castorize, and the Ice Nihility guy, and they are all back to back. 💸
Just be wary on going all-in on BH as it looks like we're heading into an AOE meta (if you know you know).
@ yes, another good reason.. 👍🏼
The "Summon Meta" aint gonna be any different from what we have right now. Summons still can crit, still break, still apply DOT, and still support your team by healing, shielding, and buffing them. Its the same gameplay concept ut with a fresh coat of paint.
I Got to disagree with you on this one, she's not a must pull not any character really they can be must pulls in ones own book like hence for me is Aventurine and Fu Xuan, but its ones owns preference. I'll make it easy for yawl. These 3 up and coming characters are definitely getting power crept, I got word that there's 1 S -Tier and 1 S - Tier + long term Meta characters coming somewhere in the 3.0 patches where one will be meta in other patches this can change of course but, it's INSANE! {Aglaea & Herta~ A-Tier Characters} Both and Fugue all three characters are NOT must pulls!. Unless its a must pull in ones own Book of course. :) None of these are leaks there're theory's like everything else when it comes down to it. If I want characters to do better than her well ofc there probably will be characters that will make Fugue look like a pebble although she is an amazing break effect character and my most best team is break and I'm not pulling her... Funny.
Must Pull are characters that can fit into any team, and brings enough utility to fit any team. doesn't require anybody else. Like Lingsha Fugue and The Herta (does the Herta have any needed team member and boosted DPS already) , Acheron wasn't a must pull at all, why? cause she needed this and that. Fugue E0S0 Lingsha E0S0 and The Herta E0S0 works. not needed. that is what makes it a Must Pull, same as Fei Xiao E0S0. Robin E0S0 Ruan Mei E0S0 ... look at that a list of mustpull that works at a budget cost. all those E0S0 work in any team, are not optimal, but they atleast work. unless you don't want to play this game, then you don't need to pull anybody. and want to waste tons of bricked MATS on shitty 4 star. that get benched fast enough.
@@drakehound2244fugue isn't a must pull and will never be because she offers very little
I'm skipping her. Maybe I'll get her later if she doesn't get powercrept or anything. 3.x is stacked. I've seen the future. Sunday is more of a must pull than she is rn. She's a safe skip til her rerun comes out (especially if you already have Ruan Mei).
Why is sunday a Must Pull? cause of summons then maybe, cause Algaea isn't looking so hot currently with her nerfs and high Energy cost Ultimate, that you need Houhou to make it work. action advance, you can use Bronya, must pull cause you like Sunday, then I agree some characters are must pull for people. cause they like it. nothing to do with meta or not, a character you love is a better then a character you are forced to pull, one you invest time and effort into, the other you play with a grudge cause you wanted the other character.
I have E0 Lingsha E2 Ruan Mei E1 Firefly and E6 HMC, Is it better to get E2 Firefly or E0 Fugue ?
If you love Firefly so much that you want E2 then go for it, the most important is to remember which character you truely love, E0 Fugue is better for firefly, but you have to grind all her traces level her up, find a lightcon and relics. (even if she is so simple to equip with relics) so make sure if you pull E0 Fugue cause it is better you truely want it. cause she makes Firefly able to carry when you don't have harmony MC (cause of true damage of RMC who also stacks with every dpser)
well i got FF but dont have ruan mei , shall i grab fugue or skip for ruanmei ?
I started recently so I don’t ruan Mei so i don’t know if I should pull fugue. I have robin, topaz, fexiao, adeventurine, and Sunday. I don’t know if skipping to 3.0 is better for me or not
if you start recently PULL fugue, cause she is SP positive. you cannot spam her skill, cause it is disabled once you buffed somebody. really she is made for you new players.
So if you pull some older character cause of losing 50/50 that character can be used cause of her skill. really you will come to love her cause she fits into any team. and sadly you need 2 teams. do not make a mistake and skipping her. like you did Lingsha. even if you lose 50/50 it sets you up for Algaea garantee since you pulled Sunday already. but I would recommend Herta for Team 2. but you already pulled sunday for Algaea.
My logic is "why would they release a new mechanic (exo toughness) just to never revisit it ever again?" , so yes I would be surprised if none of the new units in 3.x synergizes with her.
Im getting her for my rappa tho ❤
explain
Sooo what if you're a new player who doesn't have Ruan Mei or any super break dps (or any 5 star dps besides Ratio)
I do want Fugue but not sure if its worth using pulls for her when I should be saving for Aglaea to have 1 good dps. (I have Aventurine and Sunday)
Pull her she is a universal character that can enhance ANY team. cause she is SP postive and a Regainer fool proof, cause of her two passives and not able to spam skills.
Especially if you are a NEW player her ultimate and enhanced basic attack makes her look good even if you put the wrong relics and do not min max her for break. of her enhance attack scaling off attack and her ultimate scaling off attack. that is why I recommend her to F2P/New player. even if you build team 2 she can move there and enhanced old shitty dpser, you gotten to work better cause of her foxian prayer.
Don’t listen to that Midgue glazer
@@drakehound2244 so fugue very good foxian?
See what I like fugue for is you can make anyone break so you can use your fav dps with her and break any element so that’s lit outside of her break team niche
6:10 they won't powercreeped most likely but they will countered, next Hoolay will permanently protected.
Im building up jades for fugue. I pulled for sunday and accidentally... yes accidentally got e2. Now im scared. I can only clear pure fiction up to the 3rd one and i want aglaea obv. I also have firefly team. Im monthly pass payer. Wtf i do halp?
I already run out of stellar jades because of acheron and sunday, I've been losing 50/50 with high pity, since penacony, so I need at least 160 pulls for each limited 5 star. Now I don't even have enough to do 10 pulls..
i have no doubt she is going to be good but i have to be honest i really want to see and use the summons meta and I'm going to save.
I'm sure she will rerun in the future but i would love to go into 3.0 with the new shiny fresh playstyle that hasn't started yet and be able to use my sunday with all the new summon characters
Bruh, smack said that firefly and rappa get buffed the same amount when that moc exo-toughness buff was active but now he says that fugue buffs rappa more
I said exo toughness benefits all break characters & it's a terrible excuse to defend FF. Firefly not benefitting from it as much as a rappa is a skill issue on her kit design.
If u have rappa and like her, u should get fugue. If u have a break team but no ruan mei and u are struggeling, u should get fugue (she wont make your break team awesome overnight but she'll help alot)
If u dont have firefox and your acheron is struggeling, u should get fugue (fugue is kinda a 5star pela with more stacks)
For booty u would want sunday over fugue i think (i dont have a booty)
For firefly fugue is nice if u plan to double superbreak.
Should be nice for break himeko aswell
You guys dont pull for fugue because guidemakers say shes a skip, I dont pull for fugue because I have 0 pulls, we are not the same
Priority pull for waifu status. But she also will fit in nicely with my break teams. I can make two super break teams.
Watching this to convince myself to pull and ignore the highly possible powercreep for 3.0
Is E1 gonna benefit Firefly's damage?
I'm definetly not investing any gems into Fugue and super break at this point anymore. I feel like this is the last buff for that whole playstyle for the next while and as someone who skipped Rappa, Fireflop and Lingsha she won't elevate my account that much. Unlucky for my Boothill but he's been doing a good job even without HMC's super break so I'll be fine without her. Rememberance definetly a higher priority to invest into IMO especially for newer players since we'll likely see another "Acheron outclassing the whole game" situation with the next big hype 3.x dpses.
Why dont I get fugue and aglaea both🗿
E1 Fugue is meant to replace Ruan Mei for Boothill lowkey but whatever you say Smackman
She's a must pull becouse she's Tingyun. Nuff said
i liked phantilsyisa's version of tingyun 😓😓 i thought tingyun remastered was gonna have the personality of tsundere or atleast offer help in exchange of something like a truce or something
Holy clean camera Batman!
the other option I think plays a huge roll (at least for ftp players) is that summoner mc is coming... If you skip Fugue for Aglaea, you still have harmony MC for breaks. OR If you get Fugue and skip Aglaea, you will have summoner MC for Sunday to buff. As long as you get either Fugue or Aglaea you can still have 2 teams alive and kicking and I like being able to have that option.
that is why I told people to skip Sunday, with Sunday sadly you are locked into that Summoner META.. and they probaly pull for Algaea to warrant their pulling for Sunday. (but my recommendation is skipping Algaea to wait for Castorice) sadly with how they are now doing Algaea it is another Acheron. needs this and need that. while with Fugue you don't need anything. but this is discounting if you LOVE Sunday, then by all means pull Sunday. you hate Fugue, then by all means skip Fugue. never pull a character you HATE, and always pull a character you love. cause you need to slave it out and invest into those character. better do it with somebody you love then somebody you hate.
@@drakehound2244lol lot people pull for sunday bcs of castorice not aglaea. if sunday rerun with castorice release then you cook bro to pull 2 character at the same patch. if people want to focus on summon meta why bother to pull for fugue its simple as that 😭 even thought fugue can make all character with break. but for me break archetype are old news anyway and its getting boring
I have firefly but i pulled her for boothill and himeko lol. Well....i got really lucky getting her at 30 pity. Merry christmas to me
I am going all in for FF E1 and E2. Thats it.
That is a good choice cause you love Fire Fly, that is something nobody can take away from you... and I will not convince you otherwise, cause I am also going for FF with the wallet :P even knowing she will be just support for fire weakness implant.
Better E1 Firefly or Fugue? I have E0S1 FF and Lingsha for sustain
@@jonathannigel8979 i believe ff e1 would be peak.
Oh. I’m getting Fugue without question.
I really like fugue, but as someone who only has Gallagher and hmc for super break teams, I will happily skip (lost Ruan Mei 50/50). Helps that I’m also super stoked for Aglaea and have fua and Acheron+jiaoqiu so I’m not missing too much
Not to say she’s a must skip or must pull, but RMC isn’t a must… You can use Robin and Sunday with Aglaea and use your HMC with the break team. 🤔
I rlly want to play Aglaea, but I dont think I’ll be able to afford her if I go for fugue
the problem is i dont have a single break character (i have premium blade team a premium dot team a premium fua team) not a single break character💀💀
Haven't been really interested in SB comps, i love fugue and always knew she was gonna be amazing but im saving for Aglea here
Got enough pulls saved to guarantee her if I lose 50/50. But if I win it, i'm going for the LC. If I win with that and still have pulls left over, I'm thinking of going for E1. Otherwise I'll pick it up on her rerun
I have limited resources and have to choose between Fugue and Sunday. if my goal is to avoid 'BRICK'-ing my account, which character should I pull?
Fugue can't brick your account is SP regainer.. so you can't even spam her SKILL.. she will fit any team cause of her passive. she is workable at E0S0.
Sunday you need atleast E0S1, yes you need that S1 to make him work. he is easily replacable if you have Bronya who can action advance Anybody at E1 with sunday lightcon S1. she comes out even more SP postive then Sunday. Sunday will get a RERUN faster if some Rembrance character is so UBER that it needs Sunday. Fugue rerun wil be a while.
But most important is if you LOVE Sunday more then Fugue, then summon Sunday, cause nothing is worst then playing with a character you hate. even if you realise it is the wrong choice, sunday isn't so bad.. that he is unworkable without other team members. unlike Acheron... so skip characters that NEED this and THAT. and stupid bots who say you will need this and that. then it is meta. something that doesn't need anybody else, is always more META then somebody who need this and that to work.
@@drakehound2244 yeah... I think I'll go for Fugue if Sunday need S1. that's unrealistic for my current gacha resources (I'm not even including HSR collab in the future).
thanks for tips!
if you play break (and not firefly) go for fugue. if you play literally anything else and are interested in future remembrance characters go for sunday. his lc is extremely powerful, but not mandatory. overall sunday for general usage, fugue for break
She would be a must pull for me, but I only have E0 FF as my break dps plus with how strong Therta is looking to be unfortunately it looks like must skip her if I want both aglaea and Therta
Plot armor? Cope, they can powercreep break characters by increasins shield sizes enough and have new characters break them easily. Or have enemies immune to shieldbreaking unless you use the new mechanic a new character have
And they can powercreep everybody by introducing a Zillion HP and? and are Break Characters not HYPER characters too? like Lingsha already proven, so much that they bricked Fugue without ONE ATTACK bonus in the traces. what is your point, for playing a game where you do more damage by removing the WHITE BAR. you hate break so much play another game :P
It's already happening in beta there's a new weakness locked enemy BE teams in general will die in amphoreus lol fugue is a bait for rappa havers.@@drakehound2244
@@shjinriven3408 LMAO more FAKE Rumors, that same system was used in LuoFou and Aventurine, anything else you guys eat everything so easily hoping break will be destroyed. even then if break is destroyed they just respec into Attack Critical and Critical damage, and done no need for new Characters and keep their super break BONUS DAMAGE. but if break is destroyed all other DPSERS suffer more, cause they don't have the bonus Super Break damage. so for your own sake I hope you don't play this game. or else you can suffer even more HP inflation. cause they balance out the white BAR with even MORE DAMAGE reduction.
@@drakehound2244 Keep coping blud I can't wait to see you cry using your vertically invested BE team in amphoreus 🤣
@@shjinriven3408 Oh do tell me from 3.0 Hoolay will be BREAK SUPER BREAK to now 3.1 HOOLAY Will be break Super break, 10 years later end of service, game is gone. SUPERBREAK is broken see we are right.
How about picking fugue just for xueyi it's worth it ?
should i pull if i don't have rappa, boothill, or firefly? i kinda want her just for himeko lol
Pull her for himeko she will enable other DPSer too who are old. till you finally have 2 meta team. even then she herself is support for the most META character ever Lingsha :P
@ i don’t have lingsha either :( lol
I'm picking up Fugue so I can run main dps Lingsha and kick out Fireflop
But you still invested in her so what are you whining about?
Based
Absolute gigachad 🔥
@@theoDSP You mean invested in Firefraud? Yeah, I pulled her before we even knew Lingsha was coming. So idk what you are trying to say.
@@StreakBreaker42 you know that the character is bad yet you pulled and invested. That is stupidity my guy, and you look cringe mocking names lil bro. literal manchild energy
I pulled Sunday because I can see the summon meta starting in 3.0.