That's true and valid (although Jon in the show has the stupidest facial expression I ever saw on screen, unlike how he comes across in the books. OK, rant over, have fun.)
can u really blame him..after all the things he has seen; army of the dead, white walkers, nk..nt everyone remains the same upon realizing such terrors
i guess im the only person who hated Dany and Jon, I actually refused to watch the last two seasons for the longest time because of that. I ended up watching because i just can't leave a show unfinished unless its a crappy show.
- Have standards - Fall for character, not looks / status - Establish principles - Enact upon those principles through action - Purpose should extend beyond that of your relationship
The best players Tyrion and Little finger always ask you or themselves what do you want and give that to you or make you think that you get it. Jon never does it, he came for asking sy without offering anything. He acts like he deserves to get it but not because of entitlement but because he believes so much in his fight. (This is self boundary as well in contrast to the narcistic entitlement which Daario, all the bad boys and model girls have in real life.) Brilliant that even when Tyrion helps him he doesnt tell Jon to give sy minor to the queen but advices him to ask sy minor. Like the Imp doesnt try to change Jon's paradigm and make the king think, behave, and be like himself (like most of us do it in real life) but understand how he works and give him what he wants in Jon's own paradigm.
Star Gazer well a lot of it correlates with the real world so that's not a good argument but incest was a lot more common in those times (Game of thrones being set in a more medieval timezone). Also, incest may only be brought attention to if it was the immediate family, so it might not be considered incest between them or it very well may. Only season 8 will tell.
he betrayed and murdered someone he said he loved and he broke his vows to the nightswatch. his word meant nothing and he has no loyalty to anyone. thats as rotten inside as a person can be, thats a scumbag. he is not a good man.
@@taliesinhalliday Read the books before you shape an opinion. Jon was loyal to his people and yes he did love her BUT if he didn't killed her she'd be friggin Hitler. Shes a TARGARYEN she has madness in her blood unlike Jon who's son of a Stark and a bastard TARGARYEN
NickToVa Jon isn't the type of character going around trying to impress people, have you not been paying attention at all? Yes the writing in season seven was mediocre but come on.
7:00 I think it's largely because Jon is not impressed by her. Many of her other lovers are impressed by her and try to woo her by Jon does not. If she wants his affection she is going to have to put effort into it. Daenerys wants a partner to stand by her side and Jon is that. With him she doesn't feel supremely powerful.
@Artoria Pendragon He respects her but is not impressed by her, that's an important distinction. Not respecting Daenerys after what she has already accomplished is just boneheaded. Jon will give her the respect she is due but no more than that. My main point is that he is not trying to woo her and is not trying to prove anything to her.
This video outlines something that almost no one these days seem to get. Love is built on virtue. Not petty attractiveness. That’s not real love it’s lust and after awhile lust fades.
@@culturedvulture2015 that would be true if you had virtue to impress someone then after a while it would probably fade but if you are someone with integrity and virtue is a part of who you are and the way you live your daily life with well then it never fades.
And it's about the confidence in the relationship between the couple, I mean it's important to know that the other person is confident with her principles, she is true, she say you what she thinks even if it isn't nice but without interest of ego for him. You can delay on him whatever he will not let you down and when he is weak he will not be an asshole, he knows where is his place
I don’t think Jon Snow is always the sharpest blade in the drawer, but he is a good man. He did not, however, have the right to turn the North over to Daenerys. He was acclaimed The King in the North by the leaders of the Northern houses, he didn’t become their owner. Kingship by acclamation is a “first among equals” kingship. Jon could have bent his OWN knee to Daenerys, but in doing so without the agreement of his countrymen, he forfeited his right to lead them. (Gorgeous, dragons, armies....I get it. Having great looks can give you a huge influence over other people, depending on the circumstances.) The North has no reason to respect her name, indeed quite the opposite; her father was an insane tyrant. She has done nothing to earn the respect of The North; they don’t even know her. Has she learnt anything from knowing the blow she inflicted on Jon’s best friend by killing his brother and father - not in battle (which is normal and expected) - but when they were her prisoners? I know there is no Geneva Convention in Westeros, but killing disarmed prisoners is a war crime. I think the North and the South should be separate kingdoms. That way they could become allies instead of always suffering from infighting.
NoisyCricket42 Jora is old af, he was never a logical option. Imagine accusing Jon of friend-zoning a 50 year old woman who wanted him just cos she had good character lmao.
A man who murdered his friends to get closer to Dany, he's a cutthroat, he murders for position. He keeps himself close to Dany so that he can slit her throat when he pleases. He should ride at the back to protect her.
I don't like someone telling me how to eat my sandwich, which sandwich I should eat, what I should and shouldn't have in my sandwich, wipe that thing off my face. Ah peace and quiet, what I crave with MY sandwich.
Speaking as a woman I will have to say this was seriously on point. I'm falling in love with my current paramour because of many of things you stated in this video. His willingness to take chances, his unwavering loyalty to his family, and his confidence when he approached me. He didn't use a lot of charming words, he was really just a genuine person.. He speaks his mind, but he's not closed minded to my views either. Plus he's a hard worker and looks at me like I'm beautiful in his eyes. He makes me accountable for my actions and expects much of me as I do him.. Great analysis.
@@femtoservants I guess if they would've used more time to make it - and that could have saved us some obvious logical errors - then it would be pretty okay. My main thing is with the story telling, It's rushed. But you know, you get what you get.
She loves John because her large, fire breathing kids need a positive male role model, and Dany needs the extra income to keep them fed. Else she is a single mum who depends on Westeros Social Security payments till they are 18.
Interesting analysis, but I thnk you missed another important element. Dany is extremely taken with the "legend" of her older brother Rhaegar - and became even more intrigued with him based on the stories Ser Barristan Selmy shared with her - especially when he told her that for all his fame as a soldier, he never liked killing - he loved to sing and play for the people. There is a moment early in season 7 when she says "everyone enjoys what they're good at" and Jon responds "not me" - referencing how little he enjoys battle and how much he'd rather do virtually anything other than kill. I think that small moment, along with everything else she'd seen about his commitment to his people, his honesty, his bravery, and the obvious loyalty he engenders in his followers, makes her think of her much admired older brother, and what she thinks is best in a man.
George rr martin defintiely thinks it out this far... you think so many plot lines influencing each other and still making sense and working out greatly at most just develop by starting to write whatever and then adjusting as you like over time? nope. thats why 99% of tv shows this day turn to shit after a few seasons because nobody thought it through from the beginning, and they are usually soooo much less complicated then the story of game of thrones... grrm thought this through in detail before starting to write even the first book and there are many minor details in earlier seasons that become more important later... so why not this detail?
Huy Nguyen Honestly even if you think D&D are bad (which I don't agree with but I understand), they work on the show all year long... They read the books and they made the show. They probably know a good part of the script by heart. So I do think they tought at least a bit about that. ^^
No criticism of D&D intended (though I feel as if they've lost some degree of commitment to GoT... but after something on the order of 8+ years, I do sympathize), rather, I was pointing out issues with the analysis...
Sorry but House Friendzone doesn't deserve any respect. If you get make your intentions clear and she friendzones you, that would be a one sided friendship. You're not her friend, you're a beta orbiter, and there's nothing respectful about that.
He could life his shirt up and be like: "Behold!" but that'd just show he was wounded badly and is just one durable guy. Not proof of him returning from death or if he even got said wounds "for his people".
I think one thing that makes Jon more desirable is that he doesn't seem desperate like the way Jorah does or the way Dario did when Dany told him she's leaving him. One reason behind Jon's attitude being the way it is, is that he prioritizes his work, his mission(to save north from white walkers) more so than he does his own feelings of attraction or pretty much anything else. He's a driven guy, to him everything is below his mission. Now, THAT on its own, often times, is enough to make a person desirable but add to that the fact that his goal is self-less or it involves saving lives amplifies attraction to a next level.
- Jorah - So subnissive he's not even attractive enough for sex - Daario - Badboy and thus sexually attractive enough, but not a real man, because has no goal and just follows her goals - Jon - has own goals and does not follow her, does not submit to her (unlike the 2 others) by not bending the knee and gains *instant respect* from her because *no woman can truly love a man she can't even fully respect*
The four men who loved Daenerys.... Jorah Mormont bent the knee- Too old and friendzoned. Daario Naharis bent the knee before Daenerys left for Westeros- Got dumped..just a plaything. Khal Drogo did not bend the knee- She learned to love Him as a matter of survival. Jon Snow did NOT bend the knee-I agree with the video above.
@@kheatthr1892 Yep, you're getting closer. It's not even psychology though. It's pseudo-psychological crap. Charisma on Command knows about as much about actual psychology & sociology as Trump knows about governing & macroeconomics.
I wouldn’t say it’s pseudoscience? A lot of what charisma on command does is social psychology.... it’s not drowned in theory or stats but I see how it matches with theory?
Miranda Summerset ugh yes. If they had made season 7 and 8 longer, and maybe more seasons they wouldn't feel rushed. Lots of people didn't even think they were genuinely the love of each other's lives because of that 😑
Dany fell in love with Drogo within three episodes after being forced to marry him and forcibly raped multiple times. Yet people didn't complain about that being rushed. Dany and Jon spend weeks together at dragon stone where they learn about what motivates the other person. Then they finally consummate their relationship.
@@Shamyrl no, because her relationship with Drogo was different. You have to remember that Daenerys thought she would be with Drogo for the rest of her life, so she just tried her best to make a life for herself with the Dothraki. It wasn’t the path she wanted, but she had no other choice, so Daenerys did her best to care for him, and make him care for and respect her as well. Jon and Daenerys on the other hand, had a more rushed relationship. Their relationship wasn’t a bad build up at all, but D&D definitely could have done better with it. The only reason they really fall for each other in this season is because they have good qualities. But we never really see them talk about their lives - such as the fact that Daenerys is basically fireproof, and how Jon helped the Wildings - which would have really helped cement and further their relationship, and show more of why they fell for each other.
Amelia Brittain no, I don't think so. Personally for me as long as every one who is participating are both adults and and fully consensual it's none of my bushes what it is you get up to behind closed doors. If you're not hurting anyone then it's no one's business.
Nope. I see no problem. I think denial's perfectly okay when applied to fiction. The beauty of fiction is that you can conveniently ignore certain unpleasant truths and nothing bad will come of it, because it's fiction. As a result, I see no problem with overlooking the possible consequences of their shared DNA, just to enjoy the sweetness of their chemistry. It's fiction. Enjoy it however you like.
no, all that shows is that the suspension of disbelief has been accomplished. This is a world where people, Targaryens at least, can commit incest and suffer none of the bad consequences that would happen in real life. That is one of the rules of this world. You have entered that world in your mind, so the relationship looks different to you than it would if it existed in the real world. There's nothing wrong with that. If you start becoming obsessed with incestuous fanfiction, *then* you should probably see a shrink.
Missandei: You stand in the presence of Daenerys Stormborn of House Targaryen blah blah blah Davos: This is Jon Snow. He is the King in the North... And your nephew
qwerer .qerrzdxf this is why the child will never be even if she gets pregnant , she will die with it ,only way this storyline and child to survive without being so bizarre with the dad being the child's cousin is for both Jon and Dany to die so people can't be reminded, and I don't think both will die killing Jon again is stupid.
Yeah, but any child of theirs will be really inbred. They’re aunt and uncle, but Dany’s parents were brother and sister, and her parents’ parents were brother and sister. I don’t know how far back it goes, but that’s one line that needs to stop.
One thing that you forgot to mention is that Emilia Clarke, Kit Harrington and Rose Leslie (who played Ygritte) are also really close friends in real life. Their chemistry is compounded by the fact that they are super comfortable around each other both on and offscreen.
what's funny is to me the original guy playing daario naharis made me believe dany could fall for him. however the actor that replaced him to me just didn't have it. he came off as somebody dany would just use which she did. when she broke up with him she didn't care
The very first lesson we learn in GOT was "He who passes the sentence should swing the sword". Daenerys never does this but passes the most sentences throughout the 8 seasons, always her killing done by other people or dragons. "They can live in my new world or die in their old one". The whole show is about power and who should have it. Targaryen rule had to come to an end, even though Jon would make a great king, sooner or later history would repeat itself. Now we have a king who knows history itself. A king who showed great wisdom and mercy by forgiving Jaime and Theon, king who holds no grudges. Broken king for a broken kingdom Jon Snow is the Last Targaryen, who continues to be the shield who guards the realms of men (as the 1000th Lord Commander of the Nightswatch). It was about doing the right thing, no matter the cost. In the end he sacrificed even his birthright for peace. He is the Prince who was Promised, "Promise me Ned" The Prince who was promised to be kept safe by Ned. Two tragic Loves he knew,, one of Ice and one of Fire.
@@aulisrintala1306 I couldn't have said it better. Rare to find people who understand the stories import. Surely the series was a bit rushed but the overall story is a masterpiece.
Dany has spent her life being exposed to people who appear to be one thing while the whole time bing the complete opposite. Trying to stay one step ahead of two-face deceiving types the whole time and wondering who she can and cannot trust. Even some of those closest to her had betrayed her severely. Jon Snow was about the first openly honest guy she had ever dealt with. For once, she knew exactly where she stood with somebody. Somebody who sticks to their word no matter what...even if it means disadvantaging themselves in the process (At least in the short term)...I guess after all the slimey two-faced types with more faces than Big Ben, this was a massively refreshing change for her....but I definitely agree about caring more about character. Too many guys in particular think that just giving a woman compliments on her looks is all it should take....as if that is all that matters. It is not.
Yes, but the irony is that Jon is not what he appears, or what he sincerely believes himself to be. Nor is Daenerys. He is not not Ned Stark's bastard son or the half-brother of Bran, Sansa and Arya. Daenerys is not the true heir of the Iron Throne. Their personal identities will be profoundly shaken when they learn the truth.
But neither of them are actively deceiving each other about that so it's not really relevant here. Jon genuinely believes he is the bastard son of Ned Stark....and Dany has no idea about his true heritage either. It will of course be interesting to see their reactions when they find this stuff out.
Simply put, they actually legit fell in love...nether of them found the other attractive at the beginning, Jon disrespected her a lot and Dany hated him for it...it was the time they spent together that actually made the relationship...people are saying that it was rushed and forced but if you look at the grand scheme of things it was the most spontaneous relationships in the series.
I ship them together, but they needed more time to develop a relationship between them in a beliable way. We jumped from one scene to the other, and were left to guess what had happened between.
Drogon the dragon respects Jon because of his Targaryen blood. This probably made Dany realize Jon is something else. A lot of honest thoughts and Jon is truthful in his actions, follows his Heart and does not follow others. If you saw the last episodes it's pretty obvious where we are coming from.
Fact: Jon slept with Ygritte and then was in love with her the next episode. Robb fell in love with his bride and married her within like 5 episodes. I'm sure there are many other examples. But because this is two main characters everyone wants to say its unbelieveable.
This was eye opening. I think we as guys focus way too mutch on how to say or act the right way to get the right results, and not on how to handle rejection or failure when it comes. I think that is the first step and most important one so you can live freely.
I don't like Jon Snow, I think he's so freaking boring. Maybe it's also because I don't find him good looking and his height is ridiculously short for a leading-man type of character making him look pathetic next to other characters, especially next to Sansa.
+Deep space 9 De Wet Jealousy is the laming argument when talking about looks. Can't you accept that not everyone has the same taste? And I know I have excellent taste, it is you who doesn't. Kit is almost a dwarf and his face is pretty meh. Nope sorry, I don't see what's so beautiful about him, I really don't.
+Deep space 9 De Wet Millions of women see him as pretty? Boy, that must be set in stone and we all know that the mass has excellent taste; that's why Justin Bieber is so popular. Tyrion? Short but 100x more interesting than Jon.
I think another aspect that made Jon & Dany’s romance so potent is how other people provided good descriptions of one to the other. Tyrion and Davos rave about Jon to Dany and Mesandre tells Jon how honorable Dany is. I think hearing good things said about someone is a huge factor in falling in love
To be fair, he doesn't have much to smile about. Jon's family was betrayed, captured, and/or killed. His first love shot him (and later died in his arms), the Watch stabbed him, and he is trying to fight an army that no one believes is real.
He’s never conniving but stays honest and true... he is not power crazy but fights for what is right and that exhibits his righteousness and bravery... he is decent, he doesn’t give in to seduction and lust, he’s pure that’s why he’s cutely awkward in front of the only 2 women he is attracted to and loves... He is a tortured character since birth, that’s why he looks so sad all the time... he never wanted any thrones, but he sacrifices more than those who sit on the thrones, he even sacrifices himself to save not just his people but everyone, even the enemies like the wildlings... he sees the big picture, he’s willing to put himself down for the greater good... That’s why people gravitate toward him, he’s a leader without even knowing it, he’s people’s savior and hero without even knowing it... and I think that is his greatest appeal... He’s destined to sit on the throne, and not just any throne, but that iron throne, he’s the only rightful ruler not just because of his birthrights, but because of who he is, he’s the only one who truly deserves it!
Probably because the only thing he truly knows is that he knows nothing. So... so does that mean he does know something? Or does him knowing that he knows nothing just further the belief that he, in fact, does not know nothing?
ymfah the actress made sure she would no longer need to do any nude scenes when she was in contract negotiations after the first season. I don't blame her, she was naked during the majority of the 1st season. so even when she killed all the Khaals and was standing in front of the dothrakis in the nude we didn't see her body.
Penny, check your facts. She didn't use a body double. The only part of the contract she changed was that she didn't want to be nude on screen for no reason other than being eye candy for male viewers. So the only times she would go nude is if it was important for the plot. Burning the Dothraki and coming out of flames in the nude was part of the plot so Emilia was filmed naked in the scene and it was a scene of empowerment. And sex with Jon didn't really show much other than Kit's butt so I'm sure she didn't mind being naked for the scene.
I think my mom is a wizard. I'm rewatching with her. First time she sees Danny she immediately ships her with Jon. No amount of subterfuge could hide my smirk. I had to tell her Jon dies.
I had a similar experience. My mom guessed that it was the grandma that poisoned Joffrey before finding out that she had something to do with it in the following episodes. I was amazed lol.
Rui Lourenço I guessed they were related in the second episode. I wasn't buying the whole "Ned cheating" thing. Didn't seem like his character. I randomly guessed tho I wasn't 100 percent share.
It's the hero thing. When she's telling Tyrion heroes annoy her. That's what got her. Because he is going to follow his code, his heart, his honor no matter the consequences. Which is exactly what Dany did.... and you Nailed this
Emilia had way better chemistry with the original Daario than the second one. I honestly was really looking forward to seeing more of those two together. It's a shame it didn't work out with Ed.
One thing - there was one more bit of humor from Jon during their first meeting when Dany asked if he noticed the Dothraki and he quipped that they were “hard to miss.” Small bit of humor but from Jon Snow it’s rare.
"The root of confidence is believing that no matter what happens, you will be okay." I think this is true, based on my own experience. One example - I never got a lead role in a school/college production until the time that I auditioned without worrying about whether I got the part or not. It takes a certain mindset, one that says, "I've got nothing to lose, because I'm comfortable in myself," to be successful in life.
So eloquently put, yes Dany has drogo and Jon had ygritte, but like any young person, let alone a prince and princess, they wanted the class and stature of one another, they are both of the same status, house and league, they're each others "ideal" partner..
I don't know, man. Both Jon & Dany had heaps more chemistry with their former partners. Jon & Ygritte were great and believable together, and even Dany had more chemistry with both Drogo & Daario.
Feamelwen agreed bruv, but I'm saying as far as them both being heirs to the throne, they're pretty ideal with their morals and stuff, they're a true King and Queen power couple
Jon doesn't care about status unlike what people say he's not the one invading Westeros for pride and power. Dany getting the throne WITH Jon would make her consort not regnant and as most of Jons people hate the targaryens, we'll see how this "power couple" plays out.
Jon never cares about that nonsense, if anything he's altruisticly against such things, he was born a bastard, he's live his whole life a bastard, he's spent his adulting years on the wall, where every man is equal, lord and convicted criminal forget their differences and fight side by side as brothers. "Clovis" is respected just as much as any lord to him, immediately a brother in arms same as all the others m and he's a "lowly bastard". I dont think daene is too far off from that either, although not as close.
Jon is the perfect balance. Neither too dominant and intrusive(toxic masculinity), nor submissive. He's Wayward/willful/doesn't "bend the knee". He doesn't let others dominate him but doesn't dominate either.
sean bowman what fanfiction are you talking about ? Also Yara exists in the books except she's named Asha. I don't read the books and i don't know if she died but she was in the books. If she's still alive she'll most likely meet Dany and i've recently read from book readers that Dany is hinted to be bisexual.
I think too many people equate SEXUAL tension with so-called 'chemistry'. They're not tearing each other's clothes off. But loving someone for who they are rather than what they look like or what they can do or their status in life is deeper than just wanting to jump their bones. Jon's only been in love with one other woman and that may have seemed like more chemistry because the actors are actually lovers in real life and of course they bring that to the screen. Also, look how that ended! There's an 'innocence about this relationship that's just sweet. Like teenagers discovering love for the first time but restrained by the environment and they're roles in it. I like 'em fine myself.
SK no, everything he listed is why she falls in love. She’s never met a man like Jon snow. After having sex one time, once he learns who he is, he stops giving himself so easily.
@@SpliffyHusk No, their romance was pretty poorly developed. I thought Jon and Danny were absolutely nothing, especially compared to an extremely well-done one like between Jon and Ygritte.
this is such a beautiful video and commentary. I’m so tired of toxic relationships being portrayed as true love because its “hard” and “messy.”. Relationships should be passionate but “easy.” Not filled with fights, abuse, breakups and drama which is too often portrayed on tv as “epic love.”
There weren't just the scars (Seven if i remeber correctly) that won her over. Another moment of Self Sacrifice was beyond the wall when he refused her hand and kept fighting of Wights while the rest of his group climbed to Drogon and after Viserion was Killed he almost gave his life to allow her and the group to escape!! There is another moment of Lighthearted Playfullness. In the Dragonpit. When they are talking after Cersei leaves and he tells her they are ...(The F word). In response to this they both smile!! And what about his demonstration of umbreakable loyalty when he refused to bend the knee to Cersei and declared his support for Daenerys?
I know their related but... I don‘t know I just love seeing them together... and I think their love is true and profond I hope they stay together in the last season
I’m glad you found enjoyment with the show and D&J’s relationship, but personally I think it’s really forced. It’s like if you had a month long project with someone and your friends keep saying “omg I think he likes youuuuu” but you’ve only talked to them about the project. Sure you may have joked around here and there but that’s just because you’re not a robot.
Jon can make a fortune if he sells those legally in a country as raunchy az westeroes he may get millions of gold dragons by selling these in dorne alone
I really hoped the love story would be something huge. GRRM himself had hinted in the early parts of shooting the show that the convergence of Jon and Daenerys was "kinda the point of the series". Then we get the last season, and the love story is barely there, and it only serves as something to tear down Daenerys. While I could see Daenerys ending up the way she did, it just didn't work in the short, poorly written last season. With good writing and probably two or three full seasons to develop the love story into something epic (you know, the thing they'd write songs about - songs of Ice and Fire), there could be events that would feasibly bring her down... like say the loss of a child. They foreshadowed Dany being pregnant heavily in the 7th season, and that went nowhere.
I honestly wish we got just one more season with the two of them. Season 8 focus on the white walkers and knight king while Dany and Jon's love story serves as the backbone of the season. Culminating with them having a child and getting married. Then in season 9 show the decline of Dany into madness. Season 9 would be the Excalibur/Doctor Zhivago of Game of Thrones. The ultimate tragic love story of fantasy films and t.v. shows. Both seasons would also explore the political/social ramifications of the romantic relationship.
@Yowatsapp 05 GRRM wants it that way But I think her curiosity of beating death by Jon Will serve as her being alive in Volantis. She better suits in the east anyway
What did t work for me was dany already started the story loosing everything, a husband, brother and child so we’ve already seen her at her lowest and she was still sane
Although I already knew the reasons Jon and Daenerys fell in love with each other, I really enjoyed your insightful, intuitive and sensitive analysis. Thank you for sharing.
They "obviously mean" that their past tense "already written" is in a book that hasn't been written, and I'm supposed to think that means anything at all... lmfao "obviously" a bunch of feel good 3 eyed crows in here. lololololol obviously
Good video, thx. One thig: Dany somehow lost herself when she arrived to Westeros. She was "Miha", the Breaker of chains, the Choosen queen for her people, and here she is only another wanna be queen, who fight for the power (and Westeros has enough of that kind in the last years) - as Jon said to her at their first meeting. But Jon is the kind of king, Danaerys was before, and want to be again: the chosen king, who lead his people to protect them. And he helps her find herself again. We fall in deep love to one who help us to be ourself, to be what we wanna be.
I can see the forming of a teacher - student relationship between them. Danny was becoming more of a megalomaniac, before she finally met someone with strong norms and altruism like Jon. From that point, Danny acted less self-centered and more melancholic like her northern 'teacher'. Jon may learn as well attending negotiations beside Danny (Dragonstone, King's Landing). The dynamic of their relationship is just beautiful.
Also Jon understands the North, Westeoes far better than someone who spent decades in the free cities. Honour and is a reluctant king. he never asked for it, he earned it. She however understands the tricks of power far better, Jon being ned stark 2.0 . So between the two they make competent leader and counter the other flaws. All in alll, good writing... its a fairly clever way off showing the flaws in to characters.
2 great points: 1. Confidence isn't always knowing what to say and getting the results you want; it's knowing you WON'T always get your way but that you'll be ok regardless, and 2. People are drawn to those who have the ability to think beyond their own desires and needs and have a passion for something outside themselves.
I heard someone say it once that what makes for strong love between two people is shared values, not shared interests. It makes a lot of sense. While I think Daenerys may not have actually shared all the values she saw in Jon - honor, honesty, integrity, concern for innocents, the willingness to risk his own life - she wanted to believe that she did or that she could. Thinking about the declining quality of writing of the last couple seasons (especially the last, holy crap what a poor example of storytelling!), the love story developing between Jon and Daenerys was done really well. This video really highlights it.
Unfortunately the rules of what amounts as incest in Westeros is not covered as well in the tv series as it is in the Books. Only immediate family couplings are considered incest in Westeros. Aunt/Nephew, Uncle/niece, cousin/cousin couplings are considered completely acceptable and half siblings are a bit of a gray area. The only reason the Targaryens got away with marrying brother to sister was because they ruled and had dragons. After the dragons all died it had been going on for so long that the people just sort of accepted it as something Targaryens did. There's also a very interesting theory that Targaryens may be slightly biologically different than other men considering that they have a very long history of miscarriages, still births, and ill pregnancies, but this seems to happen less frequently when the parents are both Targaryen than it does with couples where only one has "The blood of the dragon".
Marijke Cuffe - There's another theory about Tyrion being a Targaryen. His mother died giving birth to him too. Of course, there's a lot more to be said about it other than that. One, being how the Mad King was obsessed with Tyrion's mother. Which could explain why Tywin hated him so much. Not because he was a dwarf, but because he was a different man's son. There's videos that explain it more thoroughly. It sounds far fetched but it could be another interesting twist the writer's could use.
Personally I don't believe that the witch truly cursed Daenerys or killed her child. I don't think she was a witch at all. Drogo and his men committed horrors against her and her people, killed, enslaved and raped. She was clearly working to enact revenge. I don't think she caused Drogo to turn into a vegetable but rather the infection he got from his wound, spread and did it's damage. I think Daenerys' child was either miscarried or stillborn, not caused by anything that the witch caused, in other words the witch lied. In Season 7, I personally saw and I think others would agree, foreshadowing that Jon will get Daenerys pregnant since she has stated several times that she can't have children, told Jon that she's cursed, and Jon asked, what if the witch was lying. I think there's nothing with Daenerys, meaning she isn't cursed, she's healthy and fertile. I think it's possible that Daario was sterile.
Haven't finished the books, but I recall someone citing a passage that led them to believe Dany hadn't had her period between her miscarriage to after Drogon saved her. I don't know much about miscarriages, but I think it could be plausible that due to it she wasn't ovulating regularly (or able to carry an embryo properly) until she was completely healed from the miscarriage.
Jon is the embodiment of what Danni has been trying to become. He is brave, justice, honorable, loyal and loving. She had never come by anyone like him.
@@Claudia-Jotun rofl!!!! Let's not forget the fact, that Jon's values duty above everything else. The only exception is his family. She's not his family...emotionally speaking..biology, yes
She risked her life to save him and the others, and losing one of her dragons in the process. He fell in love with her because he finally saw her true character. She has a big heart and heroic in her own right.
They are both outcasts that were never expected to get very far in their accomplishments due to the lack of status. Its them against the world. Bonnie and Clyde or in fantasy power couples Joker & Harley Quinn. These are the most passionate unions.
John is very noble,honest has the characteristics of a true king,she doesn't realize it but she sees it and it appealing because no one else she met has it!
Actually, Jon never lied to Dany. He just didn’t answer. It’s more a sin of omission. Otherwise, I agree with it all. Sad ending for both, but as a book reader, I can see how it may end in a similar manner. “Sometimes different roads lead to the same castle.” It’s heart-breaking, regardless. Great video 👍🏼
This is literally what I have been saying all along in terms of their relationship. It’s because Jon was the only man that never initially wanted to impress her or view her as a prize to be won. She wasn’t his original goal. He wanted to do what was best for his people not for her. He has integrity and honor. Hell I don’t blame her for falling for Jon.
0:09 "Something is different about Jon." Yeah, he is her nephew.
Lol thats the same fucking thing i thought off
Targaryens not only always married relatives for political reasons, quite often they fell in love with relatives
@@KateeAngel Yes. I'm aware of that.
hahahha savage
Unlike Cerci and Jamie they are both from different parents.. So for me it's not direct incest..
The difference is that Jon is the first man she has met with total integrity.
That's true and valid (although Jon in the show has the stupidest facial expression I ever saw on screen, unlike how he comes across in the books. OK, rant over, have fun.)
Ana Milovac
Hold up, jon isnt dorky in the books, what is he a suave magnet machine.
can u really blame him..after all the things he has seen; army of the dead, white walkers, nk..nt everyone remains the same upon realizing such terrors
figot latenby yup
And more ruthless too
greenghost2008 Jorah has integrity, but he pities himself
Game of thrones in two sentences:
1) "Ewwww, incest!"
2) "Yay, incest!"
Game of incest
1) lannisters
2) Targaryen
@@chinline1289 Also, the House of Frey.
It was gross when Jamie and Cerci were boning but we were all for it when the MOD and Jon Snow were doing it...or at least i was 🤷🤷😂😂
i guess im the only person who hated Dany and Jon, I actually refused to watch the last two seasons for the longest time because of that. I ended up watching because i just can't leave a show unfinished unless its a crappy show.
- Have standards
- Fall for character, not looks / status
- Establish principles
- Enact upon those principles through action
- Purpose should extend beyond that of your relationship
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Live in Thailand😍🇹🇭👍
Thank you
Don't forget take risk successfully, speak truthfully with a confident and playful mood. Playfully persistence too
No worries, I will do that then lmfao
It's interesting that Jon is the only one who didnt want to impress her or give her anything.
Oh he wanted to give her something
The best players Tyrion and Little finger always ask you or themselves what do you want and give that to you or make you think that you get it.
Jon never does it, he came for asking sy without offering anything. He acts like he deserves to get it but not because of entitlement but because he believes so much in his fight. (This is self boundary as well in contrast to the narcistic entitlement which Daario, all the bad boys and model girls have in real life.)
Brilliant that even when Tyrion helps him he doesnt tell Jon to give sy minor to the queen but advices him to ask sy minor. Like the Imp doesnt try to change Jon's paradigm and make the king think, behave, and be like himself (like most of us do it in real life) but understand how he works and give him what he wants in Jon's own paradigm.
Jon had shit to do!
HA HA- I love men!!!! thebarser
raquelborn YOU ARE GOD DAMN RIGHT!
I thought it was because they had a lot in common, specifically their chromosomes.
Zing!
🤣🤣😭😭🤣🤣deadd
my first thought too.
Justafan IV yeah isn’t she like his dads sister?
@@northstar5240 yes
6:11 Also, single moms like guys who get along well with their kids.
under appreciated comment
ha ha aha haa ha
If they care about their kids at all.
this wins everything
this is one of the best comments ever
I came for why Daeny loves John and left with dating advice
😂😂😂😂 You made me laugh
😂😂😂😂😂😂
He already explained the reason in the video
😂😂😂
Bruh
Jon is the whole damn package; her equal, a very decent man, strong leader, heroic, kind, handsome, sweet.
And a right proper lad!
And her nephew !!
who cares, they love each other and this isn't the real world!
Star Gazer well a lot of it correlates with the real world so that's not a good argument but incest was a lot more common in those times (Game of thrones being set in a more medieval timezone). Also, incest may only be brought attention to if it was the immediate family, so it might not be considered incest between them or it very well may. Only season 8 will tell.
and abs
Everyone else chased her. Jon really didn’t have to...he’s just a natural leader and a good man.
lmaooooooooooo
He had to for the future of humanity, because he's a Good man. There was no other choice for him if he was to stay true to himself and people
he betrayed and murdered someone he said he loved and he broke his vows to the nightswatch. his word meant nothing and he has no loyalty to anyone. thats as rotten inside as a person can be, thats a scumbag. he is not a good man.
@@taliesinhalliday Read the books before you shape an opinion. Jon was loyal to his people and yes he did love her BUT if he didn't killed her she'd be friggin Hitler. Shes a TARGARYEN she has madness in her blood unlike Jon who's son of a Stark and a bastard TARGARYEN
@serena liom. we are talking about the show, dont get confused.
I think it's because Jon didn't try to impress her.
stop that I agree 100% with you
He impressed her without trying to
Jon didn't try to impress her because the writting was terrible
NickToVa so everyone has to try and impress Daenerys?
NickToVa Jon isn't the type of character going around trying to impress people, have you not been paying attention at all? Yes the writing in season seven was mediocre but come on.
If Dario had been in Jon's position he would have showed the scars to Dany to be seem as a brave man
Yeah
Agreed
Dario was naked infront of her
Yes exactly!!!!
7:00
I think it's largely because Jon is not impressed by her. Many of her other lovers are impressed by her and try to woo her by Jon does not. If she wants his affection she is going to have to put effort into it. Daenerys wants a partner to stand by her side and Jon is that. With him she doesn't feel supremely powerful.
@Artoria Pendragon He respects her but is not impressed by her, that's an important distinction. Not respecting Daenerys after what she has already accomplished is just boneheaded. Jon will give her the respect she is due but no more than that.
My main point is that he is not trying to woo her and is not trying to prove anything to her.
He wouldn't stand for long. Remember what Arya told him? She was right.
This video outlines something that almost no one these days seem to get. Love is built on virtue. Not petty attractiveness. That’s not real love it’s lust and after awhile lust fades.
not many people w/ virtue nowadays! its a novel idea
Virtue after awhile fades away as well.
@@culturedvulture2015 that would be true if you had virtue to impress someone then after a while it would probably fade but if you are someone with integrity and virtue is a part of who you are and the way you live your daily life with well then it never fades.
And it's about the confidence in the relationship between the couple, I mean it's important to know that the other person is confident with her principles, she is true, she say you what she thinks even if it isn't nice but without interest of ego for him. You can delay on him whatever he will not let you down and when he is weak he will not be an asshole, he knows where is his place
I don’t think Jon Snow is always the sharpest blade in the drawer, but he is a good man. He did not, however, have the right to turn the North over to Daenerys.
He was acclaimed The King in the North by the leaders of the Northern houses, he didn’t become their owner. Kingship by acclamation is a “first among equals” kingship.
Jon could have bent his OWN knee to Daenerys, but in doing so without the agreement of his countrymen, he forfeited his right to lead them.
(Gorgeous, dragons, armies....I get it. Having great looks can give you a huge influence over other people, depending on the circumstances.)
The North has no reason to respect her name, indeed quite the opposite; her father was an insane tyrant. She has done nothing to earn the respect of The North; they don’t even know her.
Has she learnt anything from knowing the blow she inflicted on Jon’s best friend by killing his brother and father - not in battle (which is normal and expected) - but when they were her prisoners? I know there is no Geneva Convention in Westeros, but killing disarmed prisoners is a war crime.
I think the North and the South should be separate kingdoms. That way they could become allies instead of always suffering from infighting.
she likes him because he’s a good, altruistic man in a world of selfish ones.
NoisyCricket42 Jora is old af, he was never a logical option.
Imagine accusing Jon of friend-zoning a 50 year old woman who wanted him just cos she had good character lmao.
Stonecake - zing!
A man who murdered his friends to get closer to Dany, he's a cutthroat, he murders for position. He keeps himself close to Dany so that he can slit her throat when he pleases. He should ride at the back to protect her.
NoisyCricket42 in the books Jorah is described as not very handsome whereas Jon is very handsome
Yeah? There are alot of selfish women as well. Love the one you're with.
Narrator: what happens when you have social rejection.
Narrator: *shows clip of Keanu Reeves eating a sandwich alone*
one of the OG memes lmfao
😂😂😂😂😂
I don't like someone telling me how to eat my sandwich, which sandwich I should eat, what I should and shouldn't have in my sandwich, wipe that thing off my face. Ah peace and quiet, what I crave with MY sandwich.
That did not age well. XD
I couldn't with that! LMAO Poor Keanu! They did him dirty!
I came here for an explanation....then i stayed to find out im getting guru love life advice lmao. Top notch
Lmao that's what I was thinking 😂😂
LOL! Same.
Good tips tho
Lmfao
Just recite the OM mantra and all insight will come to you. 🕉
Speaking as a woman I will have to say this was seriously on point. I'm falling in love with my current paramour because of many of things you stated in this video. His willingness to take chances, his unwavering loyalty to his family, and his confidence when he approached me. He didn't use a lot of charming words, he was really just a genuine person.. He speaks his mind, but he's not closed minded to my views either. Plus he's a hard worker and looks at me like I'm beautiful in his eyes. He makes me accountable for my actions and expects much of me as I do him.. Great analysis.
How
Wow same
MzShaybutta, beautiful relationship you both have.
Interesting and honest insight. Always great to get a woman's view.
Are you still together? I hope so after this lovely comment.
When the pain of waiting years for S08 is small in comparison to watching S08.
We were excepting quality from season 8, subverted exceptations.
@@femtoservants I guess if they would've used more time to make it - and that could have saved us some obvious logical errors - then it would be pretty okay.
My main thing is with the story telling, It's rushed. But you know, you get what you get.
The dead shall rise.
@@femtoservants Subverting Expectations... These two words really hurt me now!!! 😑
they like to cause pain
She loves John because her large, fire breathing kids need a positive male role model, and Dany needs the extra income to keep them fed. Else she is a single mum who depends on Westeros Social Security payments till they are 18.
xwinglover it's honestly so hard. I'm a single mother of 4 memers and its very hard living on meme stamps. Go daddy Snow.
xwinglover spot on. 🤣
Amna Umar beach ball sized lady nuts
And she's his aunt
@@TheAmericanCatholic ah shit, what's that from again?
Interesting analysis, but I thnk you missed another important element. Dany is extremely taken with the "legend" of her older brother Rhaegar - and became even more intrigued with him based on the stories Ser Barristan Selmy shared with her - especially when he told her that for all his fame as a soldier, he never liked killing - he loved to sing and play for the people. There is a moment early in season 7 when she says "everyone enjoys what they're good at" and Jon responds "not me" - referencing how little he enjoys battle and how much he'd rather do virtually anything other than kill. I think that small moment, along with everything else she'd seen about his commitment to his people, his honesty, his bravery, and the obvious loyalty he engenders in his followers, makes her think of her much admired older brother, and what she thinks is best in a man.
Chill. I doubt D&D thought it out that far. Reading into it too much or it's just pure fluke that it all worked out like that.
George rr martin defintiely thinks it out this far... you think so many plot lines influencing each other and still making sense and working out greatly at most just develop by starting to write whatever and then adjusting as you like over time? nope. thats why 99% of tv shows this day turn to shit after a few seasons because nobody thought it through from the beginning, and they are usually soooo much less complicated then the story of game of thrones... grrm thought this through in detail before starting to write even the first book and there are many minor details in earlier seasons that become more important later... so why not this detail?
Huy Nguyen Honestly even if you think D&D are bad (which I don't agree with but I understand), they work on the show all year long... They read the books and they made the show. They probably know a good part of the script by heart. So I do think they tought at least a bit about that. ^^
No criticism of D&D intended (though I feel as if they've lost some degree of commitment to GoT... but after something on the order of 8+ years, I do sympathize), rather, I was pointing out issues with the analysis...
D&D discussed the end with GRRM. They're on the same page.
Jon called Danearys " Dany"
Dany called Jon "Jon Snow"
Result: Love is in the air
didnt he call her "darling"?!
Respect for house Friendzone and all its members
What about Danny being stuck in the “your my queen” zone?
@@griffin5653 That's a special house,house Queenzone
Jorah must be the king of this one.
Sorry but House Friendzone doesn't deserve any respect. If you get make your intentions clear and she friendzones you, that would be a one sided friendship. You're not her friend, you're a beta orbiter, and there's nothing respectful about that.
@@mrkiky lol you're either 12 or heartbroken
Jon didnt lie about his scars. He didn't contradict Ser Davos, he just said that he 'got carried away'. Which is true.
Yes, but he covered up the truth. It's not directly lying but it sure as hell isn't honest.
I mean how would it seem to everyone else if he was like: "Oh that? Yeah I died, came back to life. No biggy."
Yeah, try explaining it without everyone thinking you're a madman
He could life his shirt up and be like: "Behold!" but that'd just show he was wounded badly and is just one durable guy.
Not proof of him returning from death or if he even got said wounds "for his people".
I think one thing that makes Jon more desirable is that he doesn't seem desperate like the way Jorah does or the way Dario did when Dany told him she's leaving him. One reason behind Jon's attitude being the way it is, is that he prioritizes his work, his mission(to save north from white walkers) more so than he does his own feelings of attraction or pretty much anything else. He's a driven guy, to him everything is below his mission. Now, THAT on its own, often times, is enough to make a person desirable but add to that the fact that his goal is self-less or it involves saving lives amplifies attraction to a next level.
shahbaz khan well said
Agreed!
shahbaz khan Dani is like that herself, so it makes sense that she likes a driven and principled person
until the last season that is..
Shahbaz!!
- Jorah - So subnissive he's not even attractive enough for sex
- Daario - Badboy and thus sexually attractive enough, but not a real man, because has no goal and just follows her goals
- Jon - has own goals and does not follow her, does not submit to her (unlike the 2 others) by not bending the knee and gains *instant respect* from her because *no woman can truly love a man she can't even fully respect*
But Drogo on the other hand.....
- Drogo - Had own goal, chad af and raped Dany ...
Radical Atheist but she learned to love him, and did you see the way she cried over him. She killed her baby for him.
@@luke_5187 I know, I'm just stating lol
*Jon
It’s cause she’s a Targaryen and they like to keep it in the family! lol 😂
The four men who loved Daenerys....
Jorah Mormont bent the knee- Too old and friendzoned.
Daario Naharis bent the knee before Daenerys left for Westeros- Got dumped..just a plaything.
Khal Drogo did not bend the knee- She learned to love Him as a matter of survival.
Jon Snow did NOT bend the knee-I agree with the video above.
iczerman He literally says he bends the knee, what a fanboy
from all , Khal Drogo BEND DANY the hard way
Well not at first, he had to learn more about her and actually respect her.
Jon bent the knee
Khal Drogo already bend the knee to her beauty
ser jorah about to get friendzoned
red pill psychology Dude, he got friendzoned in season 1. :)
red pill psychology ya for the third time now
red pill psychology he been in the zone since the show started.
Lord friedzone of bear island.
you being defriendzoned after Bran spills
Randomly watches this Game of Thrones video...learns deep social behavioral science.
sem lol
“Deep behavioural science”
You mean psychology 🙄
r/iamverysmart
@@kheatthr1892 Yep, you're getting closer. It's not even psychology though. It's pseudo-psychological crap. Charisma on Command knows about as much about actual psychology & sociology as Trump knows about governing & macroeconomics.
I wouldn’t say it’s pseudoscience? A lot of what charisma on command does is social psychology.... it’s not drowned in theory or stats but I see how it matches with theory?
They feel so rushed, wished they could have met in season 6 tbh
Miranda Summerset ugh yes. If they had made season 7 and 8 longer, and maybe more seasons they wouldn't feel rushed. Lots of people didn't even think they were genuinely the love of each other's lives because of that 😑
Dany fell in love with Drogo within three episodes after being forced to marry him and forcibly raped multiple times. Yet people didn't complain about that being rushed.
Dany and Jon spend weeks together at dragon stone where they learn about what motivates the other person. Then they finally consummate their relationship.
This is SO right! Their relationship felt so forced
@@Shamyrl just because you didn’t see ppl complain about it doesn’t mean they didn’t.....
@@Shamyrl no, because her relationship with Drogo was different. You have to remember that Daenerys thought she would be with Drogo for the rest of her life, so she just tried her best to make a life for herself with the Dothraki. It wasn’t the path she wanted, but she had no other choice, so Daenerys did her best to care for him, and make him care for and respect her as well. Jon and Daenerys on the other hand, had a more rushed relationship. Their relationship wasn’t a bad build up at all, but D&D definitely could have done better with it. The only reason they really fall for each other in this season is because they have good qualities. But we never really see them talk about their lives - such as the fact that Daenerys is basically fireproof, and how Jon helped the Wildings - which would have really helped cement and further their relationship, and show more of why they fell for each other.
HE GETS ALONG WITH HER DOG... ER, DRAGON.
Jon: I had the greatest time last night. If those Cabin walls could speak?
Bran: Hey Jon I got to tell you something.
Do you bet Jon will freak and vomit when he finds out?? The fact he's so honorable makes it seem like he couldn't get past this incest. lol
cayoungART He will,after he hit it for the 10th time. And when they look like that,I wouldn't blame him.Bran better keep his mouth shut
Raymond Reviews I dont get it, if dany is mad kings daughter, and jon is son mad kings brother so they are cousin, or I missed something?
Dawid Pytlik Jon is the son of the mad kings son making dany is Aunt.
Ant Thomas so Danny was born how long after Jons father aka her brother
I have a theory! Davos played them all along with fermented crab
lol
Pure Gold lol
Wow! lol!
Hahaha 😂😂
I read that in his voice in my mind
the real question is who wouldn't fall in love with Jon
That's it!
Oooh me.
I WOULD FALL FOR DAENERYS NOT JON AND I'M A STRAIGHT GIRL
Exactly
Meee....
Because Dany hasn't met Podrick "Fuckin" Payne yet.
😂
PrincessAries86 Correction, "Fookin"
You're right X)
Hahaha, this comment.
lmao Podrick so adorbs!
They are literally aunt and nephew and yet I really don't care, I want to see them happy and together. Is that weird?
Amelia Brittain no, I don't think so. Personally for me as long as every one who is participating are both adults and and fully consensual it's none of my bushes what it is you get up to behind closed doors. If you're not hurting anyone then it's no one's business.
Nope. I see no problem.
I think denial's perfectly okay when applied to fiction. The beauty of fiction is that you can conveniently ignore certain unpleasant truths and nothing bad will come of it, because it's fiction.
As a result, I see no problem with overlooking the possible consequences of their shared DNA, just to enjoy the sweetness of their chemistry. It's fiction. Enjoy it however you like.
Amelia Brittain no I do too
no, all that shows is that the suspension of disbelief has been accomplished. This is a world where people, Targaryens at least, can commit incest and suffer none of the bad consequences that would happen in real life. That is one of the rules of this world. You have entered that world in your mind, so the relationship looks different to you than it would if it existed in the real world. There's nothing wrong with that.
If you start becoming obsessed with incestuous fanfiction, *then* you should probably see a shrink.
But look at Jamie and Cersei, they're siblings and they literally have children together
Missandei: You stand in the presence of Daenerys Stormborn of House Targaryen blah blah blah
Davos: This is Jon Snow. He is the King in the North... And your nephew
Also,i know nothing
Đæñėřÿß Ťåřgåřÿėñ well phew I'm glad we got that over with.
Dany: Jon's the second man that I can trust my life with
Sansa: Who's the first man?
Dany: ......someone taller ;)
Khal Drogo ❤
The drogo reference made me weep
As someone who feels nothing for dany than pure hate, that line actually made me laugh somehow
@@aliatef7203 dont be a hater
@@Tee3498 not everyone blindly loves her
This video actually taught me about life
The entire channel is about that.
MAN, how you gonna put Keanu Reeves in when talking about social rejection😂
That got me too lmfao
If they get a child together it will also be Jons cousin.
Son/Cousin ?
aunts child = cousin
qwerer .qerrzdxf this is why the child will never be even if she gets pregnant , she will die with it ,only way this storyline and child to survive without being so bizarre with the dad being the child's cousin is for both Jon and Dany to die so people can't be reminded, and I don't think both will die killing Jon again is stupid.
Ewww
qwerer .qerrzdxf that's so weird yet hilarious to think about it
I feel like, GOT get us used to the lannisters' relationship since season 1 so we could be prepared for this😅😂😂😂
hahhahahhaahaha truuue
This is just kinda normal now😂😂
Yeah, but any child of theirs will be really inbred. They’re aunt and uncle, but Dany’s parents were brother and sister, and her parents’ parents were brother and sister. I don’t know how far back it goes, but that’s one line that needs to stop.
@@dreamweaver1603 Dany can't have children
One thing that you forgot to mention is that Emilia Clarke, Kit Harrington and Rose Leslie (who played Ygritte) are also really close friends in real life. Their chemistry is compounded by the fact that they are super comfortable around each other both on and offscreen.
Emerald Typhoon interesting. I suspected their sexual chemistry was more awkward because they were all friends.
@@melaniethreatt7266 they probably had threesome many times
Didn't Kit and Rose get married?
Emilia had zero chemistry with kit tbh..if she did fans wouldn't have picked yigrette to be a better match with him than her
The real question is: Who doesn't love him?
alisser and the rest of the nights watch who got killed
Catelyn Stark
marii nanji olle
Me
Arden Klein Ohohoho buuuuurn
what's funny is to me the original guy playing daario naharis made me believe dany could fall for him. however the actor that replaced him to me just didn't have it. he came off as somebody dany would just use which she did. when she broke up with him she didn't care
rxtsec1 I agree. I didn't care for the replacement. The original actor had far more CHARISMA!
Interesting! It was the other way around for me, I was really glad when he got replaced. Couldn't take him seriously :D
They replaced him because he seemed like a snake and had too much charisma lol
the replacement looks a lot better and more charismatic and I say that as a hetero guy
The 2nd Dario is hot as hell
2 years later: Why Jon Snow Must Kill Her
Because she slaughtered hundreds of thousands of innocent people, shows no remorse, and shows all signs of doing it again. That's why. :)
The very first lesson we learn in GOT was "He who passes the sentence should swing the sword". Daenerys never does this but passes the most sentences throughout the 8 seasons, always her killing done by other people or dragons. "They can live in my new world or die in their old one".
The whole show is about power and who should have it. Targaryen rule had to come to an end, even though Jon would make a great king, sooner or later history would repeat itself. Now we have a king who knows history itself. A king who showed great wisdom and mercy by forgiving Jaime and Theon, king who holds no grudges. Broken king for a broken kingdom
Jon Snow is the Last Targaryen, who continues to be the shield who guards the realms of men (as the 1000th Lord Commander of the Nightswatch). It was about doing the right thing, no matter the cost. In the end he sacrificed even his birthright for peace. He is the Prince who was Promised, "Promise me Ned" The Prince who was promised to be kept safe by Ned. Two tragic Loves he knew,, one of Ice and one of Fire.
@@aulisrintala1306 I couldn't have said it better. Rare to find people who understand the stories import. Surely the series was a bit rushed but the overall story is a masterpiece.
Simple : the butchering of the characters of daenerys targaryans by the writers for shock value.
@@femtoservants they ended shokin no one only arousing hate
Dany has spent her life being exposed to people who appear to be one thing while the whole time bing the complete opposite. Trying to stay one step ahead of two-face deceiving types the whole time and wondering who she can and cannot trust. Even some of those closest to her had betrayed her severely. Jon Snow was about the first openly honest guy she had ever dealt with. For once, she knew exactly where she stood with somebody. Somebody who sticks to their word no matter what...even if it means disadvantaging themselves in the process (At least in the short term)...I guess after all the slimey two-faced types with more faces than Big Ben, this was a massively refreshing change for her....but I definitely agree about caring more about character. Too many guys in particular think that just giving a woman compliments on her looks is all it should take....as if that is all that matters. It is not.
Yes, but the irony is that Jon is not what he appears, or what he sincerely believes himself to be. Nor is Daenerys.
He is not not Ned Stark's bastard son or the half-brother of Bran, Sansa and Arya. Daenerys is not the true heir of the Iron Throne.
Their personal identities will be profoundly shaken when they learn the truth.
But neither of them are actively deceiving each other about that so it's not really relevant here. Jon genuinely believes he is the bastard son of Ned Stark....and Dany has no idea about his true heritage either. It will of course be interesting to see their reactions when they find this stuff out.
Simply put, they actually legit fell in love...nether of them found the other attractive at the beginning, Jon disrespected her a lot and Dany hated him for it...it was the time they spent together that actually made the relationship...people are saying that it was rushed and forced but if you look at the grand scheme of things it was the most spontaneous relationships in the series.
CxerRy96 can you explain to me how because I didn't see it like that
I ship them together, but they needed more time to develop a relationship between them in a beliable way. We jumped from one scene to the other, and were left to guess what had happened between.
Drogon the dragon respects Jon because of his Targaryen blood. This probably made Dany realize Jon is something else. A lot of honest thoughts and Jon is truthful in his actions, follows his Heart and does not follow others. If you saw the last episodes it's pretty obvious where we are coming from.
He sounds a lot like Rhaegar doesnt he?"Genetic Sexual Atrraction" , seems like Astrology
Fact: Jon slept with Ygritte and then was in love with her the next episode. Robb fell in love with his bride and married her within like 5 episodes. I'm sure there are many other examples. But because this is two main characters everyone wants to say its unbelieveable.
Can we talk about how Jon turned down Meildandra and Ygritte for sex. But when it came to Daenerys he craved. That says a lot.
He was part of the watch those 2 times
Ray Watts yeah he bent the knee and the third day an event that tongue to her right into her vagina he certainly had no problem bending LOL
Remember that Dany sacrificed a dragon for his cause. That made him fall for her.
Andreas Hult Dragon child*
He didn't turn down Ygritte...she took his V card lol
This was eye opening. I think we as guys focus way too mutch on how to say or act the right way to get the right results, and not on how to handle rejection or failure when it comes. I think that is the first step and most important one so you can live freely.
We all have to remember: Jon staying at Dragonstone was several months, not a couple weeks. Plenty of time to fall in love. ;)
Maybe you should watch game of thrones again
Daenerys is not the only one who loves Jon Snow. Most of us GOT fans both men and women love him too!! He's noble, wise, brave & good looking
I fuckin' love him no homo
Same with Kit. Dude is awesome
I miss rob
I don't like Jon Snow, I think he's so freaking boring. Maybe it's also because I don't find him good looking and his height is ridiculously short for a leading-man type of character making him look pathetic next to other characters, especially next to Sansa.
+Deep space 9 De Wet Jealousy is the laming argument when talking about looks. Can't you accept that not everyone has the same taste? And I know I have excellent taste, it is you who doesn't. Kit is almost a dwarf and his face is pretty meh. Nope sorry, I don't see what's so beautiful about him, I really don't.
+Deep space 9 De Wet Millions of women see him as pretty? Boy, that must be set in stone and we all know that the mass has excellent taste; that's why Justin Bieber is so popular. Tyrion? Short but 100x more interesting than Jon.
Look I’m sorry but these two are perfect for each other, regardless of their family relation
Dan Hughes YAY FOR INCEST!!
I think another aspect that made Jon & Dany’s romance so potent is how other people provided good descriptions of one to the other. Tyrion and Davos rave about Jon to Dany and Mesandre tells Jon how honorable Dany is. I think hearing good things said about someone is a huge factor in falling in love
Social proof is a powerful thing.
he just looks so damn sad. all the time.
To be fair, he doesn't have much to smile about. Jon's family was betrayed, captured, and/or killed. His first love shot him (and later died in his arms), the Watch stabbed him, and he is trying to fight an army that no one believes is real.
Mallika Banerjee and he’s king in the north which is a job and responsibly he never wanted
He gets it from his father, Rhaegar
He’s never conniving but stays honest and true... he is not power crazy but fights for what is right and that exhibits his righteousness and bravery... he is decent, he doesn’t give in to seduction and lust, he’s pure that’s why he’s cutely awkward in front of the only 2 women he is attracted to and loves... He is a tortured character since birth, that’s why he looks so sad all the time... he never wanted any thrones, but he sacrifices more than those who sit on the thrones, he even sacrifices himself to save not just his people but everyone, even the enemies like the wildlings... he sees the big picture, he’s willing to put himself down for the greater good... That’s why people gravitate toward him, he’s a leader without even knowing it, he’s people’s savior and hero without even knowing it... and I think that is his greatest appeal... He’s destined to sit on the throne, and not just any throne, but that iron throne, he’s the only rightful ruler not just because of his birthrights, but because of who he is, he’s the only one who truly deserves it!
Probably because the only thing he truly knows is that he knows nothing. So... so does that mean he does know something? Or does him knowing that he knows nothing just further the belief that he, in fact, does not know nothing?
Because the story writers were underpaid for the million dollar sex scene
ymfah the actress made sure she would no longer need to do any nude scenes when she was in contract negotiations after the first season. I don't blame her, she was naked during the majority of the 1st season.
so even when she killed all the Khaals and was standing in front of the dothrakis in the nude we didn't see her body.
Penny, check your facts. She didn't use a body double. The only part of the contract she changed was that she didn't want to be nude on screen for no reason other than being eye candy for male viewers. So the only times she would go nude is if it was important for the plot. Burning the Dothraki and coming out of flames in the nude was part of the plot so Emilia was filmed naked in the scene and it was a scene of empowerment. And sex with Jon didn't really show much other than Kit's butt so I'm sure she didn't mind being naked for the scene.
The Law yeah nope
The burning of the dothraki scene was cgi I heard.
+username With that scene they filmed Emilia in-front of a green-screen and just put her in the scene that way
I think my mom is a wizard. I'm rewatching with her. First time she sees Danny she immediately ships her with Jon. No amount of subterfuge could hide my smirk. I had to tell her Jon dies.
Well you technically weren't lying...
JON DIES????
Lol...He does! Doesn't he?
I had a similar experience. My mom guessed that it was the grandma that poisoned Joffrey before finding out that she had something to do with it in the following episodes. I was amazed lol.
Rui Lourenço I guessed they were related in the second episode. I wasn't buying the whole "Ned cheating" thing. Didn't seem like his character. I randomly guessed tho I wasn't 100 percent share.
It's the hero thing. When she's telling Tyrion heroes annoy her. That's what got her. Because he is going to follow his code, his heart, his honor no matter the consequences. Which is exactly what Dany did.... and you Nailed this
Emilia had way better chemistry with the original Daario than the second one. I honestly was really looking forward to seeing more of those two together. It's a shame it didn't work out with Ed.
This first Daario was far more true to the character in the book. I was very disappointed with the actor change. Made no sense.
Original actor left to take a movie role
Yeah but Michael Huisman is a handsome chap.
Danny did not want to kiss the first one
I prefer the second one look way better on tv more confident natural
Who's here after the final? 🙋
final what? Prequels are coming and two more books.
Yeah What final
@@utkarshdixit5567 yeah season 8 isn't even out yet lol
After the final?! Blood moon is releasing in 2020 !!!!
Jon kills Dany.
P E R I O D ! !
I think she saw his heart and humility no pride
One thing - there was one more bit of humor from Jon during their first meeting when Dany asked if he noticed the Dothraki and he quipped that they were “hard to miss.” Small bit of humor but from Jon Snow it’s rare.
Sandy Prater I agree, a very Jon Snow type of humor
"The root of confidence is believing that no matter what happens, you will be okay."
I think this is true, based on my own experience. One example - I never got a lead role in a school/college production until the time that I auditioned without worrying about whether I got the part or not. It takes a certain mindset, one that says, "I've got nothing to lose, because I'm comfortable in myself," to be successful in life.
So eloquently put, yes Dany has drogo and Jon had ygritte, but like any young person, let alone a prince and princess, they wanted the class and stature of one another, they are both of the same status, house and league, they're each others "ideal" partner..
I don't know, man. Both Jon & Dany had heaps more chemistry with their former partners. Jon & Ygritte were great and believable together, and even Dany had more chemistry with both Drogo & Daario.
Feamelwen agreed bruv, but I'm saying as far as them both being heirs to the throne, they're pretty ideal with their morals and stuff, they're a true King and Queen power couple
Jon doesn't care about status unlike what people say he's not the one invading Westeros for pride and power. Dany getting the throne WITH Jon would make her consort not regnant and as most of Jons people hate the targaryens, we'll see how this "power couple" plays out.
Nothing is going to be the way we want it- Dan and david is moving along at the speed of light- but this was forshadowed since book 1.
Jon never cares about that nonsense, if anything he's altruisticly against such things, he was born a bastard, he's live his whole life a bastard, he's spent his adulting years on the wall, where every man is equal, lord and convicted criminal forget their differences and fight side by side as brothers. "Clovis" is respected just as much as any lord to him, immediately a brother in arms same as all the others m and he's a "lowly bastard". I dont think daene is too far off from that either, although not as close.
Jon is the perfect balance. Neither too dominant and intrusive(toxic masculinity), nor submissive. He's Wayward/willful/doesn't "bend the knee". He doesn't let others dominate him but doesn't dominate either.
Because Yara didn't make a move on her!
sean bowman what fanfiction are you talking about ? Also Yara exists in the books except she's named Asha. I don't read the books and i don't know if she died but she was in the books. If she's still alive she'll most likely meet Dany and i've recently read from book readers that Dany is hinted to be bisexual.
Lycanthoss but Yara in the books is a straight woman. Just so you know.
Ally Silveira I thought she (and Dany) were both pansexual.
Ser Jorah of House Friendzone
House Motto: Like a brother...
I think too many people equate SEXUAL tension with so-called 'chemistry'. They're not tearing each other's clothes off. But loving someone for who they are rather than what they look like or what they can do or their status in life is deeper than just wanting to jump their bones. Jon's only been in love with one other woman and that may have seemed like more chemistry because the actors are actually lovers in real life and of course they bring that to the screen. Also, look how that ended! There's an 'innocence about this relationship that's just sweet. Like teenagers discovering love for the first time but restrained by the environment and they're roles in it. I like 'em fine myself.
She is attracted to him because the show needs them to fall in love so when he kills her, it seems more poetic! 😑
SK no, everything he listed is why she falls in love. She’s never met a man like Jon snow. After having sex one time, once he learns who he is, he stops giving himself so easily.
I would’ve lost my shit if this comment was made a year ago.
@@DrunkGnu Being able to predict the shitty writing in GOT is not that hard. S5-7 were telltale signs of what was coming.
@@SpliffyHusk No, their romance was pretty poorly developed. I thought Jon and Danny were absolutely nothing, especially compared to an extremely well-done one like between Jon and Ygritte.
I disagree. If they wanted to do that then Dany would have announced her pregnancy right before he killed her.
this is such a beautiful video and commentary. I’m so tired of toxic relationships being portrayed as true love because its “hard” and “messy.”. Relationships should be passionate but “easy.” Not filled with fights, abuse, breakups and drama which is too often portrayed on tv as “epic love.”
There weren't just the scars (Seven if i remeber correctly) that won her over. Another moment of Self Sacrifice was beyond the wall when he refused her hand and kept fighting of Wights while the rest of his group climbed to Drogon and after Viserion was Killed he almost gave his life to allow her and the group to escape!!
There is another moment of Lighthearted Playfullness. In the Dragonpit. When they are talking after Cersei leaves and he tells her they are ...(The F word). In response to this they both smile!!
And what about his demonstration of umbreakable loyalty when he refused to bend the knee to Cersei and declared his support for Daenerys?
The title should be *"How to attract your Aunt!"* 😂
usually, if an Uncle can marry his sister's daughter. then, y not an aunt marry her brother's son?
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
incest 101
Incest! When Bran tells John that he is a Targareyean. Oh boy!
omfg
I know their related but... I don‘t know I just love seeing them together... and I think their love is true and profond
I hope they stay together in the last season
I’m glad you found enjoyment with the show and D&J’s relationship, but personally I think it’s really forced. It’s like if you had a month long project with someone and your friends keep saying “omg I think he likes youuuuu” but you’ve only talked to them about the project. Sure you may have joked around here and there but that’s just because you’re not a robot.
@@alexishagerman7038 it did feel rushed and out of left field but I still love seeing them together so I can overlook that fact
Hi I'm from the future. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!! Jon kills her!
@@malekith3344 Every mindless fan ever...
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I predicted years ago that Jon would get with Dany
So did anyone else that was able to read the title of the series
Yea you and 10 million other people. Great job, we are all impressed. Did you predict the Night King will attack the Wall too?
Good on you, don't listen to people being needlessly rude, they're just like that. :/
Not love just fermented crab
inb4 ruffies were invented
Thomas Rodas 😂
Davos must be wondering on the deck as where did all his fermented crab go
Jon can make a fortune if he sells those legally in a country as raunchy az westeroes he may get millions of gold dragons by selling these in dorne alone
Davos*
I don't care what anyone says, I liked it. Good season and now to rewatch from the beginning now that we have more facts. 😊
I really hoped the love story would be something huge. GRRM himself had hinted in the early parts of shooting the show that the convergence of Jon and Daenerys was "kinda the point of the series".
Then we get the last season, and the love story is barely there, and it only serves as something to tear down Daenerys.
While I could see Daenerys ending up the way she did, it just didn't work in the short, poorly written last season. With good writing and probably two or three full seasons to develop the love story into something epic (you know, the thing they'd write songs about - songs of Ice and Fire), there could be events that would feasibly bring her down... like say the loss of a child. They foreshadowed Dany being pregnant heavily in the 7th season, and that went nowhere.
I honestly wish we got just one more season with the two of them. Season 8 focus on the white walkers and knight king while Dany and Jon's love story serves as the backbone of the season. Culminating with them having a child and getting married. Then in season 9 show the decline of Dany into madness. Season 9 would be the Excalibur/Doctor Zhivago of Game of Thrones. The ultimate tragic love story of fantasy films and t.v. shows. Both seasons would also explore the political/social ramifications of the romantic relationship.
@Yowatsapp 05 GRRM wants it that way
But I think her curiosity of beating death by Jon
Will serve as her being alive in Volantis.
She better suits in the east anyway
What did t work for me was dany already started the story loosing everything, a husband, brother and child so we’ve already seen her at her lowest and she was still sane
Source for the GRRM quote?
@@subliminalsofolde1130 Just type George RR Martin on Jon and Daenerys.
I came to see why Danerys loves Jon snow, I left with a lesson on how to make people fall in love with me
Shelly Estrada it's called Chloroform.
You are disgusting.
Hey, it gets the job done.
No it's how to make your aunt fall in love with you 😂
Sithqueen XO how about we get to know each other and see if we can put this to the test? ☺️
Although I already knew the reasons Jon and Daenerys fell in love with each other, I really enjoyed your insightful, intuitive and sensitive analysis. Thank you for sharing.
You guys keep saying "fan service" and "plot device" are acting like this hasn't been foreshadowed since season 1.
Youssef Metwaly or that it hasn't already been written
Already written? Great point me to the p.o.v. and page number and this entire debacle will be over... I'll wait.
They obviously mean in Winds of Winter
Well it is a plot a device.
They "obviously mean" that their past tense "already written" is in a book that hasn't been written, and I'm supposed to think that means anything at all... lmfao "obviously" a bunch of feel good 3 eyed crows in here. lololololol obviously
Good video, thx. One thig: Dany somehow lost herself when she arrived to Westeros. She was "Miha", the Breaker of chains, the Choosen queen for her people, and here she is only another wanna be queen, who fight for the power (and Westeros has enough of that kind in the last years) - as Jon said to her at their first meeting. But Jon is the kind of king, Danaerys was before, and want to be again: the chosen king, who lead his people to protect them. And he helps her find herself again. We fall in deep love to one who help us to be ourself, to be what we wanna be.
You know Daenerys was wet when Jon petted that dragon
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@@Lafemmefutile thanks🥰
The sexual chemistry between Drogon and Jon is way more apparent than between Jon and Dany. Let the shipping begin
lol
Sean McManus drojon
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Yeah ok 😒
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I can see the forming of a teacher - student relationship between them. Danny was becoming more of a megalomaniac, before she finally met someone with strong norms and altruism like Jon. From that point, Danny acted less self-centered and more melancholic like her northern 'teacher'. Jon may learn as well attending negotiations beside Danny (Dragonstone, King's Landing). The dynamic of their relationship is just beautiful.
Also Jon understands the North, Westeoes far better than someone who spent decades in the free cities. Honour and is a reluctant king. he never asked for it, he earned it.
She however understands the tricks of power far better, Jon being ned stark 2.0 .
So between the two they make competent leader and counter the other flaws.
All in alll, good writing... its a fairly clever way off showing the flaws in to characters.
This is another reason why they absolutely perfect for each other and perfect as future King and Queen of the Seven Kingdoms!
Well said
2 great points: 1. Confidence isn't always knowing what to say and getting the results you want; it's knowing you WON'T always get your way but that you'll be ok regardless, and 2. People are drawn to those who have the ability to think beyond their own desires and needs and have a passion for something outside themselves.
I heard someone say it once that what makes for strong love between two people is shared values, not shared interests. It makes a lot of sense. While I think Daenerys may not have actually shared all the values she saw in Jon - honor, honesty, integrity, concern for innocents, the willingness to risk his own life - she wanted to believe that she did or that she could.
Thinking about the declining quality of writing of the last couple seasons (especially the last, holy crap what a poor example of storytelling!), the love story developing between Jon and Daenerys was done really well. This video really highlights it.
They really should have gone on hiatus until the last book was written
@@fernandostar3507 So never finish the show?
Jon is hot as hell, everyone would love him
I agree with you 💯 i'm on the first season and i already love him 😍🤤
Meh.
No match for Daario
Not me
@@maricelatorres6772 you are on first season. What are you doing here spoiling it your self
Unfortunately the rules of what amounts as incest in Westeros is not covered as well in the tv series as it is in the Books. Only immediate family couplings are considered incest in Westeros. Aunt/Nephew, Uncle/niece, cousin/cousin couplings are considered completely acceptable and half siblings are a bit of a gray area. The only reason the Targaryens got away with marrying brother to sister was because they ruled and had dragons. After the dragons all died it had been going on for so long that the people just sort of accepted it as something Targaryens did. There's also a very interesting theory that Targaryens may be slightly biologically different than other men considering that they have a very long history of miscarriages, still births, and ill pregnancies, but this seems to happen less frequently when the parents are both Targaryen than it does with couples where only one has "The blood of the dragon".
Wow. This was one of the more interesting comments. Thanks for sharing.
Marijke Cuffe - There's another theory about Tyrion being a Targaryen. His mother died giving birth to him too. Of course, there's a lot more to be said about it other than that. One, being how the Mad King was obsessed with Tyrion's mother. Which could explain why Tywin hated him so much. Not because he was a dwarf, but because he was a different man's son. There's videos that explain it more thoroughly. It sounds far fetched but it could be another interesting twist the writer's could use.
Marijke Cuffe So that could be why Danerys baby with Drogo didn't live and was deformed , obviously Drogo wasn't a Targaryen.
Personally I don't believe that the witch truly cursed Daenerys or killed her child. I don't think she was a witch at all. Drogo and his men committed horrors against her and her people, killed, enslaved and raped. She was clearly working to enact revenge. I don't think she caused Drogo to turn into a vegetable but rather the infection he got from his wound, spread and did it's damage. I think Daenerys' child was either miscarried or stillborn, not caused by anything that the witch caused, in other words the witch lied. In Season 7, I personally saw and I think others would agree, foreshadowing that Jon will get Daenerys pregnant since she has stated several times that she can't have children, told Jon that she's cursed, and Jon asked, what if the witch was lying. I think there's nothing with Daenerys, meaning she isn't cursed, she's healthy and fertile. I think it's possible that Daario was sterile.
Haven't finished the books, but I recall someone citing a passage that led them to believe Dany hadn't had her period between her miscarriage to after Drogon saved her.
I don't know much about miscarriages, but I think it could be plausible that due to it she wasn't ovulating regularly (or able to carry an embryo properly) until she was completely healed from the miscarriage.
Jon is the embodiment of what Danni has been trying to become. He is brave, justice, honorable, loyal and loving. She had never come by anyone like him.
Where's the episode why jon snow loves Daenerys? I'm waiting....
Honestly it feels like he's playing her
@@Claudia-Jotun rofl!!!! Let's not forget the fact, that Jon's values duty above everything else. The only exception is his family. She's not his family...emotionally speaking..biology, yes
She risked her life to save him and the others, and losing one of her dragons in the process. He fell in love with her because he finally saw her true character. She has a big heart and heroic in her own right.
@@britratcliffe6423 Yes. But a separate video explaining why he loves her, like this video, it would be good. To understand the male perspective...
He dosent love her, he just felt obligated to be with her for the future of the North.
They are both outcasts that were never expected to get very far in their accomplishments due to the lack of status. Its them against the world. Bonnie and Clyde or in fantasy power couples Joker & Harley Quinn. These are the most passionate unions.
Daenerys is attracted to Jon and vise versa , because Targaryens are attracted to their own kind ...
John is very noble,honest has the characteristics of a true king,she doesn't realize it but she sees it and it appealing because no one else she met has it!
Actually, Jon never lied to Dany. He just didn’t answer. It’s more a sin of omission. Otherwise, I agree with it all. Sad ending for both, but as a book reader, I can see how it may end in a similar manner. “Sometimes different roads lead
to the same castle.”
It’s heart-breaking, regardless. Great video 👍🏼
She's did such a great job looking like she's into him that I'm shocked they're not married in real life😊
Holy shit me too. They literally have perfect chemistry. I wish jon was with her over rosie
you mean Aegon Targaryen?
It would be interesting to see the reaction of Maester Aemon to Jon having the same name as his brother Aegon "Egg" Targaryen.
DarkZholt to bad he died the right way
Jon Aegon XI "Snow" Targaryen-Stark
Jon Aegon Stargaryen
that's just precious
This is literally what I have been saying all along in terms of their relationship. It’s because Jon was the only man that never initially wanted to impress her or view her as a prize to be won. She wasn’t his original goal. He wanted to do what was best for his people not for her. He has integrity and honor. Hell I don’t blame her for falling for Jon.
Cersei is with Jaime
Dany with Jon Snow
Welll.... It isn't Vesteros, it's Alabama bruh