Head movement is literally easier without gloves. No gloves means a smaller surface area for the front of the hand. Which means you dont need to move your head as far for it to miss entirely
@@moreparrotsmoredereks2275 See You actually were raised to use that thing people used to have back in the day what was it called oh yeah Common sense To bad so many people these days don't seem to have it
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I just do the Dragonball Z thing where I punch their punches so that our knuckles line up perfectly and we're both completely out of range to be throwing punches in the first place.
Yeah, while Dragonball can often have some really good choreography, it also has stuff like this. Especially the original Dragonball Z anime where most of its fights are basically GIFs and 20 minute long beam clashes.
I have used my knee to block knee strikes. And I totally got the idea from majun vegeta vs goku. I still try to apply it when I a clinch or pinned on the cage. Sometimes it works, sometimes not.
My friend told me yesterday that we went to the gym at 9 pm and learned how to stop a punch with our jaw, that to me was jaw-dropping because frankly I don't remember any of it.
Yeah I know. It's simple, Force= velocity*mass. Adding 16oz to your first is a fair bit of extra mass, probably more than double. The glove protects your skin and bones from connecting breaking and tearing, but the blunt force trauma is higher with the glove.
It Blows my mind that people who have never trained a day in their lives let alone been in a fight since the 10th Grade and the extent of their knowledge comes from watching UA-cam videos and UFC on T.V. can have the audacity to try and tell someone who has pretty much Devoted their Life to Combat and has actually Fought many times that they don't know what they are talking about and that they who has done nothing but watch UA-cam knows more It's almost funny except it is way too common of a thing that happens so it really is Sad and says a lot about people. Ignorance is scary and Arrogance is Scary but Ignorant Arrogance is Frightening. Really the Big difference without Gloves is Hurting your Hand and more cuts
Yeah they call them armchair coaches You see them in alot of professional fighting or sports in general They got that elitist mentality and always think they're right no matter what
The way you explain the boxers style of feeling the opponents punch and use that information to "follow" him with your counter, is exactly what my wing chun Sifu teaches us as one of the realistic applications of chi sao.
one trainer I once had showed us the proper way to block by having me try to punch him while he covered up, he wasn't wearing gloves and I sure couldn't get through.
Was interested in this video because I've been doing a little sparring (I'm fairly new to sparring) and learning to use parries and bob-and-weave and absorption-based blocks in a controlled but stressful environment. Thanks for the insight.
I used to think this was true until I learned how to block properly and noticed my forearms made the same size gap between them with or without gloves on.
That happened to me too when I first started training. Getting smacked in the face by my own gloves. It was just sparring so I didn't hurt myself too much but lesson learned. It seems so sensible when you think about it, but for some reason it seems fairly common for people to block that way. Maybe it comes down to the fear of getting hit. You want to stop a punch as far away from your face as possible.
Right! That is why we keep our hands OUT in the center in wing chun! It allows us to intercept the attack WAY before it even comes close to our faces!! And a simple body rotation moves us out of the way of the attack.
@@mortalkomment8028 Sure it is. An angled step and body rotation moves you to the outside of the attack and out of reach of it. It's way better than the linear footwork of boxing!
@Piri Reis You are also vulnerable to the hook when you use boxing footwork, which doesn't happen in TRADITIONAL WING CHUN because we use ANGLED FOOTWORK ALL THE TIME, AND A BODY ROTATION TOWARDS THE ATTACK, THAT NOT ONLY PULLS YOU AWAY FROM THE ATTACK, BUT ALSO PUTS YOU OUT OF REACH OF HIS COUNTER, BEING ON THE "BLINDSIDE" OF THE ATTACKING ARM, WHICH DOESN'T HAPPEN IN JKD, MODIFIED WING CHUN AND ALL BOXING DERIVATIVES!
@Piri Reis That's because MMA is FAKE FIGHTING! WHEN DO YOU SEE FIGHTERS WITH GLOVES ON, IN A TEMPERATURE-CONTROLLED ENVIRONMENT, WITH REFEREES AND DOCTORS-ON-CALL, WHERE YOU CAN VIEW YOUR OPPONENTS' STRENGTHS AND WEAKNESSES?? TRADITIONAL WING CHUN IS MADE SPECIFICALLY FOR THE STREETS, IS COMPLETE AS A SYSTEM!! MMA AND ALL BOXING-DERIVATIVES ARE NOT! THEY MISS KEY ELEMENTS SUCH AS REALISTIC SCENARIOS, WEAPONS TRAINING, AND MULTIPLE OPPONENT TRAINING THAT IS TRAINED IN WING CHUN! ALL SPORTS-ORIENTED MARTIAL ARTS SUCK FOR THE STREETS AND IS ONLY GOOD AGAINST PEOPLE WHO CAN'T FIGHT OR SOMEONE WITH MODERATE FIGHTING EXPERIENCE.
Very true about punching the head. When I was younger, I was a competitive boxer, so very early on I ingrained the habit of keeping my chin tucked and changing levels slightly to absorb impact. Around 19 years old, I got in a fight with one of my friends. He was drunk, and I didn’t want to seriously hurt him, so I mostly blocked and evaded, allowing him to tire himself out. He threw a hard straight right, I had my chin tucked and slightly ducked down. Instead of hitting my nose or chin, he made contact with the upper part of my forehead, right above my hair line;, that ended the fight. Within half a minute his hand swelled to about double its normal size. He couldn’t even bend his fingers.
One of the best take down drills I ever learned was starting with my eyes closed, and my partner's hand on my face. On 'Go' he had to swing again and I had to front headlock him. Great way to train a response to being punched in the head.
Haha when you did the: "Ooohh, but you got those big gloves and big pillows on your hands" I lost my shit 😂😂 Btw as a practitioner of Wing Chun your comment about Boxing gloves with wing chun is True. It was hard at first but your get used to it. Of course you can't "grab" the same way but you can do most things.
No, you can't! Why would you train trapping with gloves on, stupid?? Are you going to use GLOVES when you are out getting your stupid ASS KICKED on the streets?? NO, you train as you fight, and that means NO GLOVES!!
Of course you can guard without gloves you just have to be mindful they cover a bit less surface area. We wear gloves for the safety of our partner's guys.
That's just a bullshit excuse! Try punching someone WITHOUT the gloves on! I can GUARANTEE you will BREAK YOUR HANDS!! If you don't toughen up your hands, fingers, knuckles, forearms, etc., then your hands won't be tough enough to handle it hitting off of someone's skull!! Traditional wing chun toughens their hands on the various bags (including the sand/stone bag), wooden dummy, etc., so we don't have to worry about our hands, fingers, knuckles, arms, legs, shins, because they are toughened up!
@@9words40 No, I said that it doesn't matter and that his hand will break because of lack of strengthening. If you are going to fight a REAL fight, which means BARE KNUCKLED, then you have to strengthen your hands, fingers, wrists, etc., so they can take the brunt force.
Coach your video has helped tremendously, I had 2 matches that I lost but I did considerably better than ever before. Yes this was jv and not varsity but I still want to thank you. The following day after you made that video I had a rough practice, perhaps one of the toughest. But the first match I pulled off a throw that is hard to get. I’ll link a video of it once I edit it down. Again thanks a lot for the time you spent to encourage me, and drive me to get back up.
Its harder and more painful. Plus they are not training in it. Can you blame them if their gyms are not teaching it. Fear of injury prevents people learning it. One I took my gloves off is my hand was one tenth the size, however no one to practice with, you need to have the opportunity to train in the same way as with gloves, but self defence is not the same as sport.
@@boshirahmed the margin of error without gloves is smaller but it's also more dangerous to throw to the head without gloves because if you hit someones forehead you might break you hand.
@@kaischreurs2488 Also if you hit the forearm at a weird angle with bare knuckles...or even worse, the bony protrusion of the wrists. And then if your own bends when punch?? Talk about pain.
Punch my head with my own gloves trying to stop punches was the first thing that happend to me went i started kickboxing and sometimes still happening...
What I love about Ramsey, besides his voice is his interaction with his subscribers ❤️😳. He legit reads most if not all comments and responds as well 😱💯.
You know ever since I saw this video and I started practicing elbows blocks in the gym I became a new fighter it developed my confidence and I started to be more offensive and dominant. Thanks coach
I always figured that defences like high guard wouldn't work in bare-knuckle fighting(or even MMA with the smaller gloves) but it seems I was thinking about the defence all wrong
Plenty of people use the high guard well. Yoel Romero has the most underrated blocking defense I've ever seen. Uses crossguard, high guard and has a generally very high and dynamic guard.
@Deus Vult. He got pummeled by someone who weighted his gloves real bad. So its not his fault for getting cheated in a fight, that shit still happens in china regularly.
If I remember correctly, a lot of the Karate training involving breaking stuff with your bare hands has exactly the purpose to harden your bone structure to not break any of your own bones when hitting someone. But you have to train for years to get your bone structure adapted. A lot of other martial arts have similar training methods with the same purpose. If someone can bare nuckle punch your forehead without injuring himself and the punch has decent power, you can derive that he is probably adapted and trained for some years.
Research suggests, this is a myth. For years, many of us(me included) thought that traditional training and the modern understanding of "Wolfe's Law" was clear evidence that repeatedly hitting things strengthened bones and possibly soft tissue. Further studies discredited that. When people run the compressive stress causes leg bones to thicken, however banging on bones does not seem to cause these adaptations. Theoretically repeated compression from punching may thicken the bones in the forearm, but it looks like repeated strikes mainly deaden nerves that effect pain receptors. Less fear of pain, and muscle memory created by training the motions seem to be effective, but hitting things repeatedly appear to do nothing to strengthen physical structures
@@TreyYork1 : Well, thanks, but I did do Judo most of the time. So ... that would actually more support what you say. I have not followed the science since I had to quit due to injury!
Great video, I love that style of blocking, its (as you said) low risk and high reward and you can get away with it easily + it benefits certain movements
Ok, you can parry and block bk, but...Honest doubt: Does Peek a boo guard works without gloves? Does Philly Shell Guard works without gloves? I have no doubts about the effectiveness of the long guard in bare knucle fights. In old pictures of bare knucle fighters from the old days they display a longer guard, maybe not too long but longer than the usual classic boxing guard seen in most boxing matches with gloves today and I think that was to avoid what you explained in 10:00
Something interesting about the high guard ,the more you look up while doing this the more your elbows block your face instead of your forearms.Your elbows defend against straight punches better than your forearms however the obvious downside is that it leaves the body wayyy too exposed. However,if you were throwing shots to body or ducking low,keeping your elbows high is interesting idea to defend from strikes from above (also fighting taller opponents). These are just some thoughts I had, still testing them out.
I agree 100% with you Ramsey on all your points. I really enjoyed your presentation of the material. I would like to add a scientific point on the "bob and weave". This works because the eyes signal the brain on where the target (typically head) is. The brain sends an electrical impulse to the limb to activate the muscles. Then the muscles react to the signal and fire the shot. The muscle will only create momentum in the direction that the brain tells it to, nowhere else. This process takes 1-1.5 sec. More than enough time to "slip" a punch. Muscle only creates movement in one direction at a time. Feigns are not strikes before anyone else brings those up. So when you bob and weave this causes the brain to constantly try to correct and gain a new target location while you are always moving out of where the strike is being sent to hit. This is why people like Mike Tyson was so good at slips, bobs and weaves. D'Amato said, "Remember, it’s always good to throw the punch where you can hit him and he can’t hit you. That’s what the science of boxing is all about." Your point sir, is totally true and valid. The internet trolls just don't understand. Thank you for sharing your Insights Ramsey! The world needs more level headed people like you in the martial studies.
Yeh that blows my mind that people would thing that. I'm not fighter, just a guy that's been in a fair number of fights. (Big distinction here.) I've never had much in the way of hand speed, I wrestled in high school, and sparred around with my father and friends a few times but I'm pretty damn slow when it comes to strikes. Hell the only reason I still have my brains on the inside of my head was learning to cover up, minimize damage, and wait for a chance to land something big in close, or take'em to the the ground. Hell if it comes right down to it you can block a weapon with your arm. I'd highly recommend running the hell the other way but if you ever find yourself in a situation where there is no escape you'd be amazed how your not exactly worried about how your arms going to look tomorrow at the time. My left arms a damn mess dude to a guy with a shank(joys of being the white boy incarcerated in a mostly black prison) but better the arm than the throat ehh?
Yes, it does teach you how to fight, how to fight for REAL on the streets, not like those FAKE martial arts, like MMA, BOXING, MUAY THAI, KARATE, TKD, JKD, JIU JITSU, AND ALL THE OTHER FAKE FIGHTING MARTIAL ARTS!!
@@mightymeatmonsta Xu Xiadong beat a wing chun master while being a not so good out of prime mma fighter. If your masters are like that then wing chun is utter garbage.
@@zoarmhirr2964 First of all, stupid, those were NOT masters, not even close!! They also learned the crappy, flawed, stiff and rigid, and incomplete modified system, NOT the real traditional, which has all the elements that are missing from modified. Second, traditional has the proper footwork, body rotation, and use of all ten concepts at once, which actually make the system work well and be very efficient! You can tell the guy wasn't even a master! He stayed out in mid range, which we don't do (we enter immediately upon contact!), didn't use ANY techniques, and didn't use the proper footwork to go to the outside of his attacking arm!
Coach Ramsey, in your other video on martial arts blocks, you showed one use for the inward middle / inward forearm "block" going to the arm bar - in this video you showed the primary use for that same move without calling it out - when you were parrying the punches with the open palm. Its the same movement, but in the 'real world' version without the exaggerated chamber. It can be done open palmed (my preferred method, since open hands are faster than closed hands) or with the fist. Open hand you can be doing a palm block, or block with the forearm with the same motion. As to the high block / rising block - don't think of it as a block either - think of it as a forearm strike or hammer fist on a different plane of attack, or another way to break contact if they're going for collar ties or if they're dumb enough to try choking you or grabbing you from the front, it can clear their grip in the same fashion that the low block does for a wrist grab.
In secondary/high school it's really a killed or be killed situation nowadays. You almost have to fight your bullies and take those 2 weeks of suspension in order to be left alone for the rest of the year. My go to defenses were the helmet guard, a plum clinch followed by elbows to the jaw or when it came to regular old boxing I would go for the liver or the spleen because I didn't want to leave any physical marks and risk legal reprecussions. After a while people started noticing that I would fight back if I had to and that I had martial arts experience so they left me alone, the occasional new kid would still try but would end up on the floor. I did become much more vicious, vile and dirty after a while. Things like grabbing the larynx, face goughing, spitting in you face before throwing the first punch. That last one actually granted me the nickname "The Llama". I am so glad I am away from that toxic environment, but boxing defenses do work in a bare knuckle situation.
Great video, I feel like I learned a lot! I did have a question about the phrasing at around 9:56, where it’s stated that gloves allow for more reckless punching, but do not allow for bad technique. I was wondering what would be the distinction between reckless and bad technique in this example? I assumed that they’re synonymous most of the time. From your experience, are there situations where reckless technique is preferable to more cautious and deliberate movements?
I never understood the logic of people who say all this. I have never sparred with gloves of many type until i got out of the military. Then my partners wanted boxing gloves. Yeah it was awkward at first as I got used to it but everything except row full hand grabs was still doable. And then gloves didn't make any of it easier. Also I am a huge proponent for bare knuckle no wraps sparing. Maybe at most some light padded gloves just to protect from cuts. Honestly if you cannot control your sparring to a point of not hurting your partner you are not practicing your techniques correctly. Slow deliberate precise movement builds muscle memory, and muscle memory does not care about gloves.
of course he never had to worry about gettin kicked in the leg with the force that could break a wooden baseball bat... or gettin slammed against a steel cage
Great video, setting straight some misapprehensions about fighting without gloves. I have found that “catching” (I don’t mean parrying) a bare knuckle punch with the hand as if it’s a focus pad, whilst certainly being preferable to being punched in the face, is only really suitable for “feeler” type jabs, thrown without power. Anything more powerful results in injury of some degree. Granted, some guys have massive hands that can take more punishment but even then, I’ve an in-law with huge, powerful labourer’s hands who got one broken catching a heavy punch in a fight. Obviously, a lot of “blocking and covering” still hurts, which is why many prefer evasion and redirection when possible, but a broken hand will really spoil the evening!😊
I train JKD and FMA. Everything you showed in this video works 100%. In the systems I practice the goal is to CATCH or PARRY incoming punch onto my elbow to break opponent's fist, so we always cover behind elbows. Most of the time I train without gloves or in MMA gloves to practice accuracy (obviously not at full speed), but every now and then we swap to heavy gloves to be able to attack faster and oh boy. If your opponent will block with elbow no amount of padding will save your hand. I am genuinely baffled that anybody who considers himself a practitioner of martial arts can believe that defense in boxing relies on gloves. Utter nonsense. Thank you for this video it highlighted the logic behind some of my favourite defensive techniques. It is a shame that you had to make such video to explain basic concepts.
my primary block/parry is with my elbow or forearm so the glove thing always seemed odd to me, I just figured it didn't apply to me because I didn't use my hands most of the time.
Hey Ramsey, I'm sure if you can answer this one but what do you think about Choki Motubu's( The strongest fighter in karate) fighting stance the Meotode( Husband and wife Hands)?
i used to stay with mike tyson's pikaboo style , its faster and head movements better than blocking ,but when we get stranded by opponents attack ,this kind of block work but we need to actively change guards
i appreciate your knowledge of boxing ramsey considering its not the martial art you mainly practice ive noticed you use a variety of blocks and guards that not many people know about these days im quite impressed keep up the good videos
Can you do a video on slipping to the inside of a punch? The timing and why you would want to. Also the timing for the cross counter? Because whenever I try this (which is often because it feels natural for me to to and I am currently breaking that habit) my head gets followed and I am smelling sweaty boxing gloves before I realise what's going on.
7:40 Wasn't that a "Mastah HWong" technique? Jokes aside, coming from a karate background forearm blocks are my shiz I love dropping down in my stance and turning while keeping my hands up to bring the elbow down on body shots
Coach Ramsey, I hope you are doing well and in good health. I have a question, I am 28 years old. When I was little I used to train Aikido for about 2 years. I picked it up again when I was about 17 and realized how pointless it actually is. Since then I have never had any more martial arts training. Am I considered too old to start training in let's say kickboxing and/or jiu-jitsu or any martial art for that matter? I wish you all the best.
The only thing that comes to mind (and please tell me if I have something wrong!) is that, if you see your hands as spheres, boxing gloves increase the diameter of those spheres. I see fighters in one fc for example using that to decrease the chance of a punch coming through. I don't see them using the forearms to parry perse. I especially see the difference when they use the small mma gloves in muay thai, where they seem to be more careful to use their forearms more. Anyone's thoughts?
i think what people don’t realise is that the high guard is not a static guard. you just have your hands up so that it’s quicker for you to parry or block and counter right back. Not stand there with ur hands up just taking shots
Wow some of those comments just defy all logic. I mean there are countless videos on your channel alone nevermind all of youtube where you can see examples of blocking in mma gloved or bare knuckles Anyway great video and thank you for answering my question on sprawling a few videos back i found your answers very helpful oh and that elbow block i actually saw that in the tv show banshee the fight scene is hood vs sanchez ive been messing about doing that while on the bag for years and could never find an example of it anywhere else so thank you for that aswell 😂
Hey Ramsey, do you usually parry the right hand punches using your right hand and left hand punches using your left? Some coaches teach the basics the other way round, the right is parried with your left, and the left is parried with your right, and it works well with a philly stance.
Blocking with the forearm like you showed was the first hard lesson I learned after I punch myself in the face from blocking. Nobody taught me to block like that but it was the only thing that didn't hurt me in the face.
I wonder how all of these people who don’t box have all of these pearls of wisdom concerning boxing, such as you can’t block or parry without gloves? How we should punch, etc. Non boxers just seem to know so much about boxing. Oh yeah, no they don’t. Thanks for the video.
I have heard that the shoulder roll in particular is harder to do without boxing gloves because with the big glove the fist is easier to deflect. Am I mistaken about that?
Medical Question: Do the holes in your skull affect the integrity of it that much? Just wondering how or if that affects you taking hits to the temple.
Hey coach since you said you had an interest in melee weapons I was wondering if you know how to spin a staff, if you do could you please make a tutorial on it. I saw a lot of videos online but it just doesn't happen As always appreciate your videos
I find it kinda hard to believe that some people think you can't do head movement without gloves. Internet never fails to amaze me
Haha,how can you even type comments without glove?btw aren't boxers born with boxing gloves on?
Head movement is literally easier without gloves. No gloves means a smaller surface area for the front of the hand. Which means you dont need to move your head as far for it to miss entirely
@@moreparrotsmoredereks2275 See You actually were raised to use that thing people used to have back in the day what was it called oh yeah Common sense To bad so many people these days don't seem to have it
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How the hell to move head with zero magic power, gloves gives you at least 10+ mana
I just do the Dragonball Z thing where I punch their punches so that our knuckles line up perfectly and we're both completely out of range to be throwing punches in the first place.
do you knee their knees? and elbow their elbows?
@@artygunnar ofc
and that high kick where our legs cross and a leaf caught between the kicks gets cleanly cut in two.
Ur a genius!
Yeah, while Dragonball can often have some really good choreography, it also has stuff like this. Especially the original Dragonball Z anime where most of its fights are basically GIFs and 20 minute long beam clashes.
I have used my knee to block knee strikes. And I totally got the idea from majun vegeta vs goku. I still try to apply it when I a clinch or pinned on the cage. Sometimes it works, sometimes not.
My friend told me yesterday that we went to the gym at 9 pm and learned how to stop a punch with our jaw, that to me was jaw-dropping because frankly I don't remember any of it.
Same happened when i learned how to break throuh a door using my head
Lol. I see what you did there.
Lol
His friend then asked him after the gym session how many fingers am I holding up ? To which he replied... Thursday 👍
"Throw some more hooks at my head please" - ᎡᎪᎷᏚᎬᎩ ᎠᎬᎳᎬᎩ 2021
That was some badass thing I ever heard😂
It is the only time anyone dares to throw hooks at his head.
Looking for more brain damage, Ramsey??
@@mightymeatmonsta,
Where do you live? I wanna have a match with you. Do you accept?
It's a pretty common sentence for every martial art that involves punching
Wow. I just spoke with my coach about this today. The fight gods are speaking to me through coach ramsey
Coach ramsay is a fight god. He decided to come down from fight olympus to earth to teach us, mortals, the art of fighting
same thing for me😂
Pretty sure those who calls it pillows never got hit by those
Yeah I know. It's simple, Force= velocity*mass. Adding 16oz to your first is a fair bit of extra mass, probably more than double. The glove protects your skin and bones from connecting breaking and tearing, but the blunt force trauma is higher with the glove.
@@expressionofwill5307 acceleration*mass=force, velocity*mass=impulse
@@nothingbutlove4886 ah ok, thanks for the correction :)
@@nothingbutlove4886 But you lose the hardeness of the knuckles. It's like covering a hammer with a boxing glove. It hurts far less.
@@PaschanTOPs you clearly overestimate the hardness on knuckles and underestimate the hardness of boxing gloves.
It Blows my mind that people who have never trained a day in their lives let alone been in a fight since the 10th Grade and the extent of their knowledge comes from watching UA-cam videos and UFC on T.V. can have the audacity to try and tell someone who has pretty much Devoted their Life to Combat and has actually Fought many times that they don't know what they are talking about and that they who has done nothing but watch UA-cam knows more It's almost funny except it is way too common of a thing that happens so it really is Sad and says a lot about people. Ignorance is scary and Arrogance is Scary but Ignorant Arrogance is Frightening. Really the Big difference without Gloves is Hurting your Hand and more cuts
Lol the youtube blackbelts are everywhere nowadays
Took the words out of my fingers
Yeah they call them armchair coaches
You see them in alot of professional fighting or sports in general
They got that elitist mentality and always think they're right no matter what
why are you trying to shut down conversation? people that don't know what they are talking about have the right to their opinions like everyone else.
Why are you capitalizing so oddly?
The way you explain the boxers style of feeling the opponents punch and use that information to "follow" him with your counter, is exactly what my wing chun Sifu teaches us as one of the realistic applications of chi sao.
one trainer I once had showed us the proper way to block by having me try to punch him while he covered up, he wasn't wearing gloves and I sure couldn't get through.
Was interested in this video because I've been doing a little sparring (I'm fairly new to sparring) and learning to use parries and bob-and-weave and absorption-based blocks in a controlled but stressful environment. Thanks for the insight.
One of the things i loved most when entering kickboxing was the chance to develop my wing chun even with gloves on. Great video, Ramsey! ☺️
I used to think this was true until I learned how to block properly and noticed my forearms made the same size gap between them with or without gloves on.
That happened to me too when I first started training. Getting smacked in the face by my own gloves. It was just sparring so I didn't hurt myself too much but lesson learned. It seems so sensible when you think about it, but for some reason it seems fairly common for people to block that way. Maybe it comes down to the fear of getting hit. You want to stop a punch as far away from your face as possible.
Right! That is why we keep our hands OUT in the center in wing chun! It allows us to intercept the attack WAY before it even comes close to our faces!! And a simple body rotation moves us out of the way of the attack.
@@mightymeatmonsta
Your simple body rotation is nothing against good boxing footwork. You're delusional.
@@mortalkomment8028 Sure it is. An angled step and body rotation moves you to the outside of the attack and out of reach of it. It's way better than the linear footwork of boxing!
@Piri Reis You are also vulnerable to the hook when you use boxing footwork, which doesn't happen in TRADITIONAL WING CHUN because we use ANGLED FOOTWORK ALL THE TIME, AND A BODY ROTATION TOWARDS THE ATTACK, THAT NOT ONLY PULLS YOU AWAY FROM THE ATTACK, BUT ALSO PUTS YOU OUT OF REACH OF HIS COUNTER, BEING ON THE "BLINDSIDE" OF THE ATTACKING ARM, WHICH DOESN'T HAPPEN IN JKD, MODIFIED WING CHUN AND ALL BOXING DERIVATIVES!
@Piri Reis That's because MMA is FAKE FIGHTING! WHEN DO YOU SEE FIGHTERS WITH GLOVES ON, IN A TEMPERATURE-CONTROLLED ENVIRONMENT, WITH REFEREES AND DOCTORS-ON-CALL, WHERE YOU CAN VIEW YOUR OPPONENTS' STRENGTHS AND WEAKNESSES?? TRADITIONAL WING CHUN IS MADE SPECIFICALLY FOR THE STREETS, IS COMPLETE AS A SYSTEM!! MMA AND ALL BOXING-DERIVATIVES ARE NOT! THEY MISS KEY ELEMENTS SUCH AS REALISTIC SCENARIOS, WEAPONS TRAINING, AND MULTIPLE OPPONENT TRAINING THAT IS TRAINED IN WING CHUN! ALL SPORTS-ORIENTED MARTIAL ARTS SUCK FOR THE STREETS AND IS ONLY GOOD AGAINST PEOPLE WHO CAN'T FIGHT OR SOMEONE WITH MODERATE FIGHTING EXPERIENCE.
Thank you Ramsey. I was just trying to figure out how to explain blocking to someone who has never fought. This will genuinely help a lot.
Very true about punching the head. When I was younger, I was a competitive boxer, so very early on I ingrained the habit of keeping my chin tucked and changing levels slightly to absorb impact. Around 19 years old, I got in a fight with one of my friends. He was drunk, and I didn’t want to seriously hurt him, so I mostly blocked and evaded, allowing him to tire himself out. He threw a hard straight right, I had my chin tucked and slightly ducked down. Instead of hitting my nose or chin, he made contact with the upper part of my forehead, right above my hair line;, that ended the fight. Within half a minute his hand swelled to about double its normal size. He couldn’t even bend his fingers.
"My sifu taught me that, but I could never use it" Been there, done that and thankfully moved on, also thanks to Ramsey.
One of the best take down drills I ever learned was starting with my eyes closed, and my partner's hand on my face. On 'Go' he had to swing again and I had to front headlock him. Great way to train a response to being punched in the head.
Haha when you did the: "Ooohh, but you got those big gloves and big pillows on your hands" I lost my shit 😂😂 Btw as a practitioner of Wing Chun your comment about Boxing gloves with wing chun is True. It was hard at first but your get used to it. Of course you can't "grab" the same way but you can do most things.
No, you can't! Why would you train trapping with gloves on, stupid?? Are you going to use GLOVES when you are out getting your stupid ASS KICKED on the streets?? NO, you train as you fight, and that means NO GLOVES!!
@@mightymeatmonsta I can't tell if you're serious or being sarcastic
@@Some.Donkus. we found one of those " internet guys " talked about in the vid
@@Some.Donkus. I'm serious. You think that training for the ring works well in the streets? Now who's being serious or sarcastic?
@@mightymeatmonsta What's wrong with training for the ring?
“those of you with two functioning eyes”
“well not me ig”
Just use your third-eye bro.
@@mathewgurney2033 good point ngl
Ramsey, you always have great content. You opened my eyes to the speed bag today.
Of course you can guard without gloves you just have to be mindful they cover a bit less surface area. We wear gloves for the safety of our partner's guys.
That's just a bullshit excuse! Try punching someone WITHOUT the gloves on! I can GUARANTEE you will BREAK YOUR HANDS!! If you don't toughen up your hands, fingers, knuckles, forearms, etc., then your hands won't be tough enough to handle it hitting off of someone's skull!! Traditional wing chun toughens their hands on the various bags (including the sand/stone bag), wooden dummy, etc., so we don't have to worry about our hands, fingers, knuckles, arms, legs, shins, because they are toughened up!
@@mightymeatmonsta i dont think he said its not protecting the hand, he just add that its also for your opponent(*) idk how to pronounce that xD
@@mightymeatmonsta its ok if you dont understand what was said.
@@9words40 No, I said that it doesn't matter and that his hand will break because of lack of strengthening. If you are going to fight a REAL fight, which means BARE KNUCKLED, then you have to strengthen your hands, fingers, wrists, etc., so they can take the brunt force.
@@hippywill I understand perfectly what was said. Maybe you don't understand what I said.
WOW...Desmistificando essas afirmações, eu estou gostando dos últimos vídeos.
Muito obrigado meu amigo!
* happy brazilian noises *
Dismistifying affirmation,ultimate videos?
@@Mhurilo10 Youre gonna regret saying that!
@@juhanaberman964 why
Coach your video has helped tremendously, I had 2 matches that I lost but I did considerably better than ever before. Yes this was jv and not varsity but I still want to thank you. The following day after you made that video I had a rough practice, perhaps one of the toughest. But the first match I pulled off a throw that is hard to get. I’ll link a video of it once I edit it down. Again thanks a lot for the time you spent to encourage me, and drive me to get back up.
Outstanding!
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Wow people really think you can't catch and pary punches without gloves? If anything I find it easier
Its harder and more painful. Plus they are not training in it. Can you blame them if their gyms are not teaching it. Fear of injury prevents people learning it. One I took my gloves off is my hand was one tenth the size, however no one to practice with, you need to have the opportunity to train in the same way as with gloves, but self defence is not the same as sport.
@@boshirahmed the margin of error without gloves is smaller but it's also more dangerous to throw to the head without gloves because if you hit someones forehead you might break you hand.
@@kaischreurs2488 Also if you hit the forearm at a weird angle with bare knuckles...or even worse, the bony protrusion of the wrists. And then if your own bends when punch?? Talk about pain.
@@boshirahmed that's why you strike with your palm, not your fist
It IS easier and you have better control over the opponent when you use bare hands through touch and sensitivity.
Punch my head with my own gloves trying to stop punches was the first thing that happend to me went i started kickboxing and sometimes still happening...
Okay are we gonna address the fact that there are people on here that thinks you can't utilize head movements without gloves?😂
This affirmation is golden! There is a blocking elbow break ,2 fisted blocking combination in Japanese Jiujitsu. This is also revelatory!
What I love about Ramsey, besides his voice is his interaction with his subscribers ❤️😳. He legit reads most if not all comments and responds as well 😱💯.
Sure do!
He does read them, I can confirm.
Hey! [7:30] is Master Wongs 'how to defeat a boxer' technique!!
Love your style of demonstrating these things. Everything down to the music had this crisp, clean, strong energy.
You are amazing, Ramsey. Thank you for your video!
There’s always plenty of people out there who love to criticise vids -
A lot of those guys never been in a fight before, inside gym or other places...
And Ramsay is the biggest one lmao
You know ever since I saw this video and I started practicing elbows blocks in the gym I became a new fighter it developed my confidence and I started to be more offensive and dominant. Thanks coach
I always figured that defences like high guard wouldn't work in bare-knuckle fighting(or even MMA with the smaller gloves) but it seems I was thinking about the defence all wrong
I'm pretty sure you can see people using high guard in mma. It opens you up for take downs but you can still block blows
It does work but with out the gloves it’s easier for punches to slip through
@@Al77343 Exactly!! It opens you up, not only for the take down and clinch, but it also opens you up to the hook.
Petr Yan uses it very successfully in MMA. It makes you susceptible to body kicks though
Plenty of people use the high guard well. Yoel Romero has the most underrated blocking defense I've ever seen. Uses crossguard, high guard and has a generally very high and dynamic guard.
I had my first day of jiu jitsu today coach! It was so fun I can’t wait to go again. Cheers
I've literally been thinking about this for weeks now, so glad you made a vid on it
Is the blind spot really that bad as you showed in the video? Im sorry to hear that.
@Deus Vult. He got pummeled by someone who weighted his gloves real bad. So its not his fault for getting cheated in a fight, that shit still happens in china regularly.
I was always sceptical about this with barehands but this video explained it really well
If I remember correctly, a lot of the Karate training involving breaking stuff with your bare hands has exactly the purpose to harden your bone structure to not break any of your own bones when hitting someone. But you have to train for years to get your bone structure adapted. A lot of other martial arts have similar training methods with the same purpose. If someone can bare nuckle punch your forehead without injuring himself and the punch has decent power, you can derive that he is probably adapted and trained for some years.
Research suggests, this is a myth. For years, many of us(me included) thought that traditional training and the modern understanding of "Wolfe's Law" was clear evidence that repeatedly hitting things strengthened bones and possibly soft tissue.
Further studies discredited that. When people run the compressive stress causes leg bones to thicken, however banging on bones does not seem to cause these adaptations.
Theoretically repeated compression from punching may thicken the bones in the forearm, but it looks like repeated strikes mainly deaden nerves that effect pain receptors.
Less fear of pain, and muscle memory created by training the motions seem to be effective, but hitting things repeatedly appear to do nothing to strengthen physical structures
@@TreyYork1 : Well, thanks, but I did do Judo most of the time. So ... that would actually more support what you say. I have not followed the science since I had to quit due to injury!
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Fuck I love words. SYNONYMS
True I think it’s the same with forearms. My friend accidentally hit me full force on my forearm and it hurted like shit
Theres something so endearing about the way Ramsey said "Throw some more hooks at my head please"
Great video, I love that style of blocking, its (as you said) low risk and high reward and you can get away with it easily + it benefits certain movements
Ok, you can parry and block bk, but...Honest doubt: Does Peek a boo guard works without gloves? Does Philly Shell Guard works without gloves? I have no doubts about the effectiveness of the long guard in bare knucle fights. In old pictures of bare knucle fighters from the old days they display a longer guard, maybe not too long but longer than the usual classic boxing guard seen in most boxing matches with gloves today and I think that was to avoid what you explained in 10:00
That’s a lot of good food for thought. This will for sure give me a new thought process to try out when training my defensive movements.
Something interesting about the high guard ,the more you look up while doing this the more your elbows block your face instead of your forearms.Your elbows defend against straight punches better than your forearms however the obvious downside is that it leaves the body wayyy too exposed. However,if you were throwing shots to body or ducking low,keeping your elbows high is interesting idea to defend from strikes from above (also fighting taller opponents).
These are just some thoughts I had, still testing them out.
Ramsey has a great voice perfect for radio and is a great communicator
"Bobbing and weaving useless without gloves"
Anderson Silva: "Am I a joke to you?"
I agree 100% with you Ramsey on all your points. I really enjoyed your presentation of the material. I would like to add a scientific point on the "bob and weave". This works because the eyes signal the brain on where the target (typically head) is. The brain sends an electrical impulse to the limb to activate the muscles. Then the muscles react to the signal and fire the shot. The muscle will only create momentum in the direction that the brain tells it to, nowhere else. This process takes 1-1.5 sec. More than enough time to "slip" a punch. Muscle only creates movement in one direction at a time. Feigns are not strikes before anyone else brings those up. So when you bob and weave this causes the brain to constantly try to correct and gain a new target location while you are always moving out of where the strike is being sent to hit. This is why people like Mike Tyson was so good at slips, bobs and weaves. D'Amato said, "Remember, it’s always good to throw the punch where you can hit him and he can’t hit you. That’s what the science of boxing is all about." Your point sir, is totally true and valid. The internet trolls just don't understand. Thank you for sharing your Insights Ramsey! The world needs more level headed people like you in the martial studies.
Yeh that blows my mind that people would thing that. I'm not fighter, just a guy that's been in a fair number of fights. (Big distinction here.) I've never had much in the way of hand speed, I wrestled in high school, and sparred around with my father and friends a few times but I'm pretty damn slow when it comes to strikes. Hell the only reason I still have my brains on the inside of my head was learning to cover up, minimize damage, and wait for a chance to land something big in close, or take'em to the the ground.
Hell if it comes right down to it you can block a weapon with your arm. I'd highly recommend running the hell the other way but if you ever find yourself in a situation where there is no escape you'd be amazed how your not exactly worried about how your arms going to look tomorrow at the time. My left arms a damn mess dude to a guy with a shank(joys of being the white boy incarcerated in a mostly black prison) but better the arm than the throat ehh?
Good stuff. All the old timer boxing legends used that open hand parrying technique back in the day. Very useful.
What a video. Great stuff Ramsey.
YEY you mentioned Wing Chun in a good way
That's because Wing Chun is an excellent martial art that everyone should know, unfortunately it doesn't teach you how to fight tho
Yes, it does teach you how to fight, how to fight for REAL on the streets, not like those FAKE martial arts, like MMA, BOXING, MUAY THAI, KARATE, TKD, JKD, JIU JITSU, AND ALL THE OTHER FAKE FIGHTING MARTIAL ARTS!!
@@mightymeatmonsta,
Where do you live? I wanna have a match with you. Do you accept?
@@mightymeatmonsta Xu Xiadong beat a wing chun master while being a not so good out of prime mma fighter. If your masters are like that then wing chun is utter garbage.
@@zoarmhirr2964 First of all, stupid, those were NOT masters, not even close!! They also learned the crappy, flawed, stiff and rigid, and incomplete modified system, NOT the real traditional, which has all the elements that are missing from modified. Second, traditional has the proper footwork, body rotation, and use of all ten concepts at once, which actually make the system work well and be very efficient! You can tell the guy wasn't even a master! He stayed out in mid range, which we don't do (we enter immediately upon contact!), didn't use ANY techniques, and didn't use the proper footwork to go to the outside of his attacking arm!
You make great videos, Ramsey. Please keep it up. Thanks!
Have these people never been in a real fight ? I find it easier to block without punching gloves. You can also spare without them
Coach Ramsey, in your other video on martial arts blocks, you showed one use for the inward middle / inward forearm "block" going to the arm bar - in this video you showed the primary use for that same move without calling it out - when you were parrying the punches with the open palm. Its the same movement, but in the 'real world' version without the exaggerated chamber. It can be done open palmed (my preferred method, since open hands are faster than closed hands) or with the fist. Open hand you can be doing a palm block, or block with the forearm with the same motion.
As to the high block / rising block - don't think of it as a block either - think of it as a forearm strike or hammer fist on a different plane of attack, or another way to break contact if they're going for collar ties or if they're dumb enough to try choking you or grabbing you from the front, it can clear their grip in the same fashion that the low block does for a wrist grab.
Still trying to figure out the cool move where you parry, and instantly change to a different rash guard for the return. Sweet! ; )
very important video regarding defense! I always got brain damage the way I defended punches
Very smart lesson ❤ thank you
Could you do a choreographied mma fight with awesome techniques? I would love too see realistic techniques in a fight scene.
It's not realistic if you choreographed it!
In secondary/high school it's really a killed or be killed situation nowadays. You almost have to fight your bullies and take those 2 weeks of suspension in order to be left alone for the rest of the year. My go to defenses were the helmet guard, a plum clinch followed by elbows to the jaw or when it came to regular old boxing I would go for the liver or the spleen because I didn't want to leave any physical marks and risk legal reprecussions. After a while people started noticing that I would fight back if I had to and that I had martial arts experience so they left me alone, the occasional new kid would still try but would end up on the floor. I did become much more vicious, vile and dirty after a while. Things like grabbing the larynx, face goughing, spitting in you face before throwing the first punch. That last one actually granted me the nickname "The Llama". I am so glad I am away from that toxic environment, but boxing defenses do work in a bare knuckle situation.
What kinda school you had? Where? WTF XDDD
Great video, I feel like I learned a lot! I did have a question about the phrasing at around 9:56, where it’s stated that gloves allow for more reckless punching, but do not allow for bad technique. I was wondering what would be the distinction between reckless and bad technique in this example? I assumed that they’re synonymous most of the time. From your experience, are there situations where reckless technique is preferable to more cautious and deliberate movements?
That means that with gloves you can hit a lot harder and more often with significantly less risk of injuring your hands.
Amazing video as always Ramsey Dewey 😎👌
Now do it with one hand gloved and one without! Like a real fighter 🤣
Lol
Art jimmerson style
Excellent video, one thing is certain is that there is a huge difference between fighting with boxing gloves and fighting without them.
I never understood the logic of people who say all this. I have never sparred with gloves of many type until i got out of the military. Then my partners wanted boxing gloves. Yeah it was awkward at first as I got used to it but everything except row full hand grabs was still doable. And then gloves didn't make any of it easier.
Also I am a huge proponent for bare knuckle no wraps sparing. Maybe at most some light padded gloves just to protect from cuts.
Honestly if you cannot control your sparring to a point of not hurting your partner you are not practicing your techniques correctly. Slow deliberate precise movement builds muscle memory, and muscle memory does not care about gloves.
The not controlling power is my biggest pet peeve when sparing with people using boxing gloves, full speed is very different than full power.
Excelent video. Love your pink gloves Ramsey, where did You get them
taobao.com
Great video as always coach 👍
At 7:28 deflection and strike??? 🤔 Very interesting. You're creating monsters with your videos. Super educating.
lol I love when you said "bobbing and weaving without gloves wont work HAHA" golden bro
Sugar ray was a master of slipping punches he could dip dodge zig and zag like a bawss
of course he never had to worry about gettin kicked in the leg with the force that could break a wooden baseball bat... or gettin slammed against a steel cage
Great video, setting straight some misapprehensions about fighting without gloves.
I have found that “catching” (I don’t mean parrying) a bare knuckle punch with the hand as if it’s a focus pad, whilst certainly being preferable to being punched in the face, is only really suitable for “feeler” type jabs, thrown without power. Anything more powerful results in injury of some degree. Granted, some guys have massive hands that can take more punishment but even then, I’ve an in-law with huge, powerful labourer’s hands who got one broken catching a heavy punch in a fight.
Obviously, a lot of “blocking and covering” still hurts, which is why many prefer evasion and redirection when possible, but a broken hand will really spoil the evening!😊
I train JKD and FMA. Everything you showed in this video works 100%. In the systems I practice the goal is to CATCH or PARRY incoming punch onto my elbow to break opponent's fist, so we always cover behind elbows. Most of the time I train without gloves or in MMA gloves to practice accuracy (obviously not at full speed), but every now and then we swap to heavy gloves to be able to attack faster and oh boy. If your opponent will block with elbow no amount of padding will save your hand. I am genuinely baffled that anybody who considers himself a practitioner of martial arts can believe that defense in boxing relies on gloves. Utter nonsense. Thank you for this video it highlighted the logic behind some of my favourite defensive techniques. It is a shame that you had to make such video to explain basic concepts.
They think you can't because they can't lol.
This was such an interesting video. Thank you.
my primary block/parry is with my elbow or forearm so the glove thing always seemed odd to me, I just figured it didn't apply to me because I didn't use my hands most of the time.
Hey Ramsey what are some good hand trapping drills to do for boxing?
Ramsey, do a video on the difference between a hook punch and a roundhouse punch.
Hey Ramsey, I'm sure if you can answer this one but what do you think about Choki Motubu's( The strongest fighter in karate) fighting stance the Meotode( Husband and wife Hands)?
i used to stay with mike tyson's pikaboo style , its faster and head movements better than blocking ,but when we get stranded by opponents attack ,this kind of block work but we need to actively change guards
Ramsey, thank you for the great content all the time. Could you please recommend some books? Perhaps, but not exclusively on martial arts?🤔 Thanks
What do you think about replacing punches when fighting without gloves with palm strikes, Master Dewey?
i appreciate your knowledge of boxing ramsey considering its not the martial art you mainly practice ive noticed you use a variety of blocks and guards that not many people know about these days im quite impressed keep up the good videos
I have coached the sport of boxing for many years. It’s something I have logged thousands of hours into.
@@RamseyDewey interesting
Can you do a video on slipping to the inside of a punch? The timing and why you would want to. Also the timing for the cross counter? Because whenever I try this (which is often because it feels natural for me to to and I am currently breaking that habit) my head gets followed and I am smelling sweaty boxing gloves before I realise what's going on.
More vids on this with long guard
I think this old lady watched your video she use the same hand technique on me when I was trying to take her purse
Keep up the good work ✊
7:40
Wasn't that a "Mastah HWong" technique?
Jokes aside, coming from a karate background forearm blocks are my shiz
I love dropping down in my stance and turning while keeping my hands up to bring the elbow down on body shots
Coach Ramsey, I hope you are doing well and in good health.
I have a question, I am 28 years old. When I was little I used to train Aikido for about 2 years. I picked it up again when I was about 17 and realized how pointless it actually is. Since then I have never had any more martial arts training. Am I considered too old to start training in let's say kickboxing and/or jiu-jitsu or any martial art for that matter?
I wish you all the best.
The only thing that comes to mind (and please tell me if I have something wrong!) is that, if you see your hands as spheres, boxing gloves increase the diameter of those spheres. I see fighters in one fc for example using that to decrease the chance of a punch coming through. I don't see them using the forearms to parry perse. I especially see the difference when they use the small mma gloves in muay thai, where they seem to be more careful to use their forearms more. Anyone's thoughts?
Thank you for information
Ramsey could you make a video on cross arm guard of archie moore.
@RamseyDewey Retinitis centralis serosa in your eye?
Keep up the great work bro
i think what people don’t realise is that the high guard is not a static guard. you just have your hands up so that it’s quicker for you to parry or block and counter right back. Not stand there with ur hands up just taking shots
Wow some of those comments just defy all logic. I mean there are countless videos on your channel alone nevermind all of youtube where you can see examples of blocking in mma gloved or bare knuckles
Anyway great video and thank you for answering my question on sprawling a few videos back i found your answers very helpful
oh and that elbow block i actually saw that in the tv show banshee the fight scene is hood vs sanchez ive been messing about doing that while on the bag for years and could never find an example of it anywhere else so thank you for that aswell 😂
Hey Ramsey, do you usually parry the right hand punches using your right hand and left hand punches using your left? Some coaches teach the basics the other way round, the right is parried with your left, and the left is parried with your right, and it works well with a philly stance.
No. You’re confusing catching with parrying. Both are shown in this video one after the other.
@@RamseyDewey Thanks for clarifying!
Blocking with the forearm like you showed was the first hard lesson I learned after I punch myself in the face from blocking. Nobody taught me to block like that but it was the only thing that didn't hurt me in the face.
how do you simultaneously punch and block yourself?
@@kamen25 You cover up with one arm and punch with the other at the same time
I wonder how all of these people who don’t box have all of these pearls of wisdom concerning boxing, such as you can’t block or parry without gloves? How we should punch, etc. Non boxers just seem to know so much about boxing. Oh yeah, no they don’t. Thanks for the video.
I have heard that the shoulder roll in particular is harder to do without boxing gloves because with the big glove the fist is easier to deflect. Am I mistaken about that?
Medical Question: Do the holes in your skull affect the integrity of it that much? Just wondering how or if that affects you taking hits to the temple.
The forehead region is pretty solid, you should mostly be fine. You don't want to be hit in the temple, it's the thinnest region of the skull.
My skull fractures are in the frontal bone (forehead) not the temples. Having a broken skull makes everything harder.
@@Madchemist002 My mistake, I meant forehead not temple. For some reason I just assumed they were the same thing.
Tremendous thank you coach
The question I have is would it be harder for you to see punches coming without big coloured gloves?
If you watch the hands, you will get hit. Watch the torso.
Hey coach since you said you had an interest in melee weapons I was wondering if you know how to spin a staff, if you do could you please make a tutorial on it. I saw a lot of videos online but it just doesn't happen
As always appreciate your videos