Bobbing and Weaving is NOT ducking and squatting
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- Опубліковано 25 чер 2024
- Bobbing and weaving is not ducking and squatting. To bob and weave is do two things: level change vertically and angle change horizontally. This involves hinging at the hip in a short bowing motion as taught by former heavyweight boxing champion and legend Jack Dempsey in his excellent book “Championship Fighting: Explosive Punching and Aggressive Defense”.
But many boxing enthusiasts attempt to bob and weave by level changing with a squat. This has the unfortunate side effect of (1) being far too slow to be practical and (2) locking the fighter in place so they will not be able to improve their position while their opponent can simply continue punching from an advantageous angle.
Additionally, some popular martial arts youtubers have gone on to erroneously teach that bobbing and weaving is the same as broken posture that will result in giving up control to your opponent should he choose to initiate a clinch. This nonsense is based on a fundamental misunderstanding of what bobbing and weaving actually is.
In this video I will teach you to keep your posture unbroken, and use your footwork and level changes to create angles that cannot be countered with a collar tie or a snap down. Why? Because you won’t even be there to be grabbed in the first place!
Let’s analyze the infamous “Dempsey Roll” as demonstrated by Jack Dempsey in the 1919 boxing heavyweight championship when Dempsey knocked down Jess Willard with the eponymous technique. What did Dempsey do 103 years ago that modern combat sports athletes can learn from today in boxing, kickboxing, and MMA? A great deal.
It’s an incredibly simple concept, but a widely misunderstood one. Let’s dispel the myths and get to the truth of the matter.
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You know you're doing the Dempsey roll correctly if you hear jet engine noises while you do it.
Also if this song starts to play in the background: ua-cam.com/video/x1VNM57PHms/v-deo.html
"sagasou kotae wa kikanaide....."
I heard a helicopter fly past. But, I never moved a muscle. Is that good?
I was waiting for the jet engine sounds on the Dempsey roll demonstration 😂
Is this a Japanese cartoon joke?
@@RamseyDewey It is indeed 😂 The protagonist from the boxing anime Hajime no Ippo uses the Dempsey roll as his ultimate move. Would be amazing to see you analyze one of the fights some day, like you did with Attack on Titan 🔥🙌🏽
@@Mirez92 Takamura is sus, though.
@@Mirez92 It'd be an interesting one. While the manga/show have a lot of the exaggeration that comes with the territory, the author is an honest to god boxing fan so he roots a lot of the techniques and training in his understanding of the sport.
shout out to ippo!
This is probably one of the best break downs of head movement
Thanks
Some great tips here coach. The best person I ever sparred against bobbed all the time and when I asked him what he was doing he couldn't articulate it. It took me so long to discover the bob which is very different to how most boxing gyms teach it which is bending the knees and weaving as if you're drawing a circle with your nose. To bob is more of a bow than a duck - a world of difference. It's really good to bob and move in at the same time if you are an inside fighter - block the jab, bob when the right hand comes and move in. The two techniques between the bob and the duck have been confused over time.
Wow, I never realized this before, but I already have the muscle memory for bobbing and weaving while moving off the center line in our Choy Li Fut forms. The more I watch your strategy inside the ring videos, the more I see that the material is already in our forms.
Seriously, I learn a lot from being subbed to you.
I really like the Dempsey Roll, you can really feel alot of bodyweight going into the hook when you roll; lots of power high and low
Those are just haymakers in a row
@@gaminghunt5837 Those are just copies of the same reply in a row
@@eastpaw bad internet got me.
Have you read Jack Dempsey’s book “Championship fighting: Explosive Punching and Aggressive Defense”? (If not, go read it- it’s public domain!) And if so, do you think Dempsey’s techniques are outdated by the standards of modern combat sports?
I'm reading it at the moment (and although I'm no fighter, I just practice on the heavy bag) and I'm really loving the amount of power I can get with my punches simply using my bodyweight and taking advantage of the different positions of my body to generate more power. Rotating from my hip when doing shovel hooks and hooks from shoulder whirls in general often come to mind, as well as the step jab also! (or as he calls it, the "left jolt") Really struggling with hitting using the 3 knuckles on my hands though, and they frequently get bruised and my hands hurt after every session haha.
A good technique is never "out of date" if it "worked" then and doesn't work now something went wrong in execution
I really do want to read it, but I can't seem to find it online at my library, do you know another source where I can read it?
@@alfaeri2143 there are literally pdf on google
NO! I think alot more MMA fighters should study Dempsey and even Lee's style of punching and body mechanics. Vertical fist fighters, like Dempsey and Tyson, often hit harder and have better body mechanics and structure to their punches. Jon Jones uses mostly vertical fist, Israel Adesanya's does too and his jab is basically a perfect representation of the kind of Step Demspey talked about eith the jab. Israel will be about 60% front foot and often lifts the front foot with the punch; causing him to step with his jab and he lands with the bottom three knuckles. Izzy probably has one of the best jabs in MMA, both powerside forward jabs and powerside back (he's ambidextrous now, but born left handed)
It's good to see you teaching rather than putting others down. You have many skills that you can share and it's better than just saying other people are wrong. Thank you for your time.
This is the best video on head movement I’ve ever seen! Great way of not only explaining it, but showing as well, and in the context of boxing, AND MMA. Also, it’s nice to see the Dempsey roll explained simply. So many people over explain and make it so much more complex than it is. Great video, Coach, I appreciate this information.
This video is awesome and definitely fortuitous, I am not kidding I just literally have been figuring this pattern out as being the hip hinging you talk about vs just ducking, which has had an enormous transfer to my footwork and hip position for throwing strikes. Thank you for your knowledge!!
I've heard a lot of silly arguments against bobbing and weaving, being snapped down is probably one of the silliest.
You can thank a certain popular youtuber I won’t name for that gem!
Thanks for the tutorial, coach. Awesome as always. A lot of coaches make you drill with the rope, but a lot of them can't articulate how to properly do it. I remember how this movement felt very odd to me until I started adding the feet movement to the sides. Then it was like an epiphany. I wish I would have known about it way before.
his is the most informative vid ive ever watched. I never knew anything about how to create angles like that, I used to be so focused on head movements and not step into that advantage angles. Thanks a lot for the insight
Hello Sir ,this is the best Interpretation about Jack Dempsey!!!!! Great,Thank you
Thank you for clearing up some misconceptions, your videos are amazingly informative and I’m always learning something new from you :))
One thing that dawned on me when you started explaining the concept of advantageous angles and the reasons for moving off the centre line, is that this is great information for fighting video games with lateral movement as well. So thanks coach, I'll put this into practice in Tekken.
Ramsey youre a legend! I literally never had anyone explain this to me this well.
Thanks for sharing this knowledge.
I never had any boxing training, mainly just picking things up from sparring partners. Never learned about solid boxing defense. Generally I just jumped in and out because I'm a TKD guy that can grapple (for the most part).
I'll be sure to play with bobbing and weaving though. Especially if I can't jump out of the way. I appreciate you, sir!
Wow! I had no idea the Dempsey roll was specifically like that. I've really tried to figure out exactly what was going on there but you just described it perfectly and now it finally makes sense!
Jack Dempsey is easily my favourite. I owe him my love for boxing after I read his book so many times and studied everything he ever did.
Great piece. Thanks for covering this!
Thank you SENSEI , your lessons are gold! Jack Dempsey has inspired many martial artists and boxers. Thank you for cleary explaining the concepts of Dempsey roll and Bobbing and Weaving.
Best regards from Italy
Inspired me and changed my life completely. First from Hajime No Ippo I learned who Jack Dempsey was, then I had to learn everything about him. So I read his book and was completely hooked after.
great drill! I'm new to boxing/mma so learning these drills is super valuable. Thanks!
Ah, Jack Dempsey Junior. We meet again.
Loved the speed skating analogy!
I liked seeing someone learn how to do the exercise for the first time. This makes me feel like this is for me.
Great video Ramsey! I just started deliberately practicing the D'Mato Shift recently thinking of Tyson and this compliments every aspect of that.
Thanks for this. It was super helpful, very clear concept to grasp. Thanks a lot
It's nice to see someone talking about the Dempsey Roll
Excellent breakdown sir!
New gym looks sick!
THANK YOU SO MUCH COACH THIS IS SOMETHING I REALLY NEEDED
Ramsey I hope this spells great success for your team as you are easily understood upon seeing that you possess no guile. Very happy for you and sending more hopes for continued success.
Yey, I was waiting for this video :D really glad you made it!
Thank you for this. While I just learnt this in Hema fencing the other day, I didn't apply this to boxing. Once again thank you.
Another priceless tutorial video and did I mention what a beautiful Gym!!❤❤👏👏
Thanks Coach. great breakdown!
Ay, I can't believe you really made the video! Good to see it, coach 🥊
Great video! Love the addition of the Dempsey roll.
The duck only works well in boxing, especially with a height difference. If you time it right, pausing just as your rise from the duck, your opponent will usually strike, by that time you’re already slipping. Mike Tyson used this really well.
That’s not true Anderson Silva ducked under a nasty roundhouse kick from Izzy in their fight that almost took his head clean off his shoulders. That was a great fight.
@@LoconStratos it’s easier to use the dempsey roll in boxing, since kicks or knees aren’t a thing like in MMA or muay thai for example
@@LoconStratos if you’re basing the validity of training effective technique based on what one of the best fighters ever can do you’re a fool.
There is an exception to every rule.
Doesn’t change the fact that an average fighter without the spider’s incredible evasion would have been decked.
Focus on high percentage techniques. You must know the rules before you can break them effectively.
@@joeljanssonhernstrom1819 I wasn’t disputing it being better than anything just saying it could be useful in other ways. I wasn’t trying to dispute the effectiveness of the Dempsey Roll
@@ogrbell8297 I wasn’t trying to make a concrete argument off anything just thought of a good example of it working outside of boxing and wanted to share it.
Excellent display!
Awesome Video Ramsey Dewey!
Thanks for the video Ramsey! I'll try the Dempsey roll. I've been training with 2 ropes and it's really fun.
“Dempsey Roll” huh? I used to practice that move till my hands were too sore to keep going. Never knew it had a name. Just my favorite combo for striking while avoiding being struck. Great channel
Great stuff once again brother. Keep it up. Thx for the tips Coach.
Another great video with lots of important little tips - I haven't done that Bobbing and Weaving rope drill in over 10 years, need to put it back into my practice - that and drills with a tennis ball on a piece of elastic tied to the forehead. :)
Very good tips
Ramsey your videos improved my WTF Taekwondo SPARRING 100% with your punching boxing videos. My boxing can MATCH my KICKING. Thank u brother. Now i must study some of your ground stuff..grrrrrrrr
Great video, and the little spectator darting over to watch the action was funny, too.
Nice Bro! Love the rope thing!
Great new place Ramsey. Great you are doing fine with your martial arts school.
Another gem of a video from Ramsey Dewey.
I think part of the reason bobbing is being forgotten is the rule of keeping the back up in amateur boxing. Different refs have different strictness on it, and I've noticed some amateur boxers and coaches erring towards rule-safety in training.
You should write a book about training and your personal philosophies. You're quite skilled and very interesting to listen to.
Awesome video, very informative!
i really liked the way she listens and takes it seriously.
Solid teaching! Would love to see more videos like this! Bravo!
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@@RamseyDewey Much obliged! Until now, I had only seen your commentary videos in my algorithm. I enjoy your channel, and hope all is well over there! Cheers!
Thank you for a great explanation
Thanks for this video. I tried setting up a rope in my back garden but I really didn't know what I was doing. I have a much better idea now.
I honestly love doing bobbing and weaving mostly because I've noticed it's helped my cardio. And it can be a little fun if you mix up moving back wards and forwards.
Finally a good video about this topic
Great video and nice Gym!
Thanks, I’ve been trying to work on this
"Hip hinge", thanks for the new word coach!
I was initially going to click off because I already knew how to bob and weave. But then I saw the other parts of the video and stayed to learn. :)
Thanks, I never really understood the meaning of the term before.
I really like that u put in the get off line part cus alot of places teach it as to stand there and roll under the punch which seems like itd leave you vulnerable to any number of things like a knee thrust or 12 to 6 elbow
Or the most common thing: getting punched again.
@@RamseyDewey hahaha exactly! Read my mind🤛
I gotta make myself a improvised rope so I can practice this.
Thank you for sharing ☺️
Awesome, really good 👍
great video as usual, thank you
It's a hinge!! Awesome video coach!
That rope drill is excellent.
Just really good content here.
Bobbing and dodging is a great thing to drill.. Nice work
Looks Beautiful over thier 🙄🙄
Oh gosh, I was looking foward for you to talk about bobing and weaving, but then the kid stole the scene, lol. Great video anyway!
I know you say your technique vids don't get as many views, but I am grateful for them.
Have you thought about making some "entrance music" for when Captain Krav Maga enters the ring?
Good one, show that 'Hard2Hurt' channel guy [Icy Mike]; who criticized me when I told him that he was wasting energy in squatting ! Tho personally when I do the 'weave' it's more of a bob at pronounced 45° angle, also punching to the stomach - and practicing this I think could help your hooks a lot (but here doing them with only a half torso bend). Also using small knuckle for hooks & horizontal punches, as well as with the vertical punch - because I notice that those who advocate using the two big innermost knuckles when punching horizontal fist, always do their hooks suddenly off to the side when the target is still directly in front of them !
Hence punching with more diagonal torso leverage [or as described earlier, half bob at 45°]; as well as power emanating from the small knuckle, could remedy this.
Forgot to mention: that student you have there seems to be doing it via squatting - tell her to use more 'kung fu bow' motion, as if balancing a cup of tea on her back while avoid spilling it.
Great video
A common mistake I see beginners make as soon as they figure out the bob and weave motion is they dont realign themselves when the counter after the bob and weave and try to punch leaning forward. I like that you demonstrate coming back up to good alignment to throw that next hook or body shot.
Awesome video!
Thanks!
Greatly quality!
hey Ramsey! i've been following your channel for a while now. i don't mean to make this long but i'm a 21-year-old aspiring MMA fighter. i've done Japanese Goshinjutsu JiuJitsu (you should probably explain the difference between that and BJJ for the ppl who don't know cause most ppl do have a misconception that BJJ is the only Jiu Jitsu lol) since i was 6 or 7 up until i was 13 and i rekindled my passion to be an MMA fighter later in my teens; by the time I was mentally and financially prepared to step into a gym,, Corona had taken over and the country was on a lockdown. i've spent almost all my time that i was out of a dojo researching the biomechanics and technical movements and microadjustments of properly throwing strikes,, footwork,, head movement,, hand-fighting,, and grappling along with the help of your channel and applying them and practicing,, to the point I can even pick out some of my own flaws in striking and correcting them in real time. i'm planning on finally going to this "MMA" gym to work on Kickboxing and BJJ (not so much wrestling yet as I am more comfortable with the base principles of Boxing && Jiu Jitsu as of right now,, and I'm looking to improve on my developed skills before acquiring new skills). Ik once I get to the gym if I can get a trainer they are going to work on fine- tuning the skills I already have developed over the years and introducing me to new techniques for MMA-based combat. However,, I would still like to use your channel on my journey. Do you have any tips in terms of a solid gameplan for a short (5ft/152cm) slim- athletic build MMA fighter? I know every guy I will get into the ring or cage with will have at least significant height,, weight and/or reach advantages over me but I am a very solid defensive fighter and I am just looking for all the edge I can get. I'm already very aware when it comes to positioning and shot selection from different angles,, but I guess what I'm asking is for some additional tips I can use for attempting TDs being at a severe disadvantage and closing what will be a major distance gap for striking? I'm not a big fan of the "Swarmer" archetype and I much prefer using patience,, footwork and head movement to counterstrike but it seems as if swarming is the most effective for shorter fighters. Me being as short as I am,, I was just wondering if you had any techniques you might have used to help me out in my journey to be the very best fighter I can be. Big fan thank you in advance
You have to remember there are weight classes in combat sports. You will not be at a weight disadvantage. Height and reach is another issue entirely. (Training in the gym is a different matter entirely, however) I have made a few videos on the topic of shorter fighters facing taller fighters. This one is about takedowns: ua-cam.com/video/yrGCFdEfYTE/v-deo.html
I need this lesson , thnx Coach
great video
Needs mentioning, but if you break that posture and expose the back of your head, you're getting tossed for dangerous boxing! Thanks, this is a great break-down; like a lot of folks, I got completely mis-trained on how this is supposed to work.
great content, I'll apply to my string in the back yard.
Excellent explanation and practical demonstration of Bobbing and Weaving!!!! I noticed that when the instructor and fighter were executing their hook punches in conjunction with their Bobbing and Weaving motions the hook punches had the vertical fist positioning or oblique fist positional configuration. Is the vertical fist mechanically a stronger position than the horizontal fist target landing?
I would really love to see a video of you about side crouching. Is like when you crouch like Dempsey but to the sideways like how rocky Marciano use to do
Thank you for the good tips !
Could you tell us more about cutting angles ?
Have a nice day
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I appreciate you Ramsey Dewey and I've learned a lot from your tutorials and instruction. But here I'm going to respectfully suggest that you review Rolling, specifically rolling under a hook vs Bobbing and Weaving. If you step to the side and end up at your opponent's 45 degrees or to his side... you've Rolled (possibly under a straight punch, but more likely under his hook to your head).
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"Angles are important." My geometry teacher always said that.
Freaking finally! It never made sense to squat - it was just too slow and energy consuming. Somehow, I find that all gyms in my area teach the vertical level change without the horizontal one (even though I'm Filipino and boxing is so prevalent here).
Thsnk you so much
Jack Dempseys book is an indispensable manual for any brawler or martial artist
Damn that’s a nice gym!
Bobbing and weaving is extremely potent if used effectively. however, I mainly use pulls and sways could you by any chance do a video on that Ramsey?
........BUT HERE, MY POSTURE JUST BROKE,......
Total correct
Yes this makes me wanna set up that slip line even more that i've been meaning to do for some time now 😁😂🤣
@Ramsey Dewey - I have a question. I've seen you do videos with Jesse Encamp about parts of karate that are misinterpreted or lost. I practice tai chi chuan, (as a form of physio, I'm not climbing into an MMA ring or anything), and in my form there is a part which looks a lot like the rope drill. The transfer of weight from one foot to the other is almost the same, and you are leaning in with a straight back with your head directly above your foot. (Obviously, it isn't anything like as slick when I do it.) Anyhow, is this one of those situations where the skill exists, it's just been forgotten? I mean, there are a lot of wrist and arm locks in my style that are basically Ju Jitsu. (No, I'm not getting into that ring either). Do you think we Tai Chi practitioners can learn from our utter destruction in the ring, or should we bite the bullet and learn something else as well? Feels a bit like we're past the point of no return when it comes to combat sports...