It’s Life Or Death For This 57-Year-Old Heart Attack Victim | Helicopter ER
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- Опубліковано 29 вер 2024
- 57-Year-Old Carl collapsed on a golf course due to a heart attack and the Air Ambulance rushes to help. bystanders nearby performed CPR on him which increased his chances of survival but things aren’t looking good as there is no response to anything the paramedic onsite is doing.
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Defibrillators should absolutely be made mandatory in golf clubs (or any large club or sports establishment). That's just common sense. Golf courses are huge so they're already inaccessible, a lot of older people play golf and many people have heart attacks exercising because of the exertion. Combine all that, and it's a disaster waiting to happen. The cost of the defibrillator is nothing compared to cost of a human life. A golf club can afford that.
Edit: A basic defib costs as little as £600-800. There is zero excuse not to have one. A club like that could easily fork out more for one with a longer battery life, and the first aider wouldn't need to change the battery for years. For every minute someone does not have a defib, their chances of resuscitation can drop by 10%.
I personally feel as though every establishment open to the public should legally be required to keep a defib machine on the property accessible to the public.
@@asfowenn This! Plus a trained first aider at all times!
In South Africa it’s a law. It’s also a law that businesses have to have one person on the premises who has a certified first aid qualification
The defibrillator didn’t save this guy, good CPR did. Wish we had these CPR machines everywhere.
@@avocadobrotato if he was initially in ventricular tachycardia that progressed into refractory ventricular fibrillation (v fib), then an AED would have probably been able to reorganize his heart rhythm sooner. Yes, cpr kept him alive.
My mother ended up doing CPR to a neighbour in a tiny rural town for 25 minutes when the air ambulance here in Victoria arrived.
She had a 0.4% of survival chance but somehow made a full recovery. Even with a physical disability my mum was there within 2 minutes of the cardiac arrest and used her previous nursing experience to save her neighbours life.
I've been inspired to watch a lot of these air ambulance episodes to overcome my fear of blood and all things medical. I would love to get CPR training someday, but for the time being I've installed a CPR metronome on my phone.
Amazing work as always, I'll always marvel over these talented individuals, they do an amazing job.
That is such a wonderful story. Kudos to your mum for being a critical link in the chain of survival with a cardiac arrest. First Aid should be taught in all Australian schools. Greetings from a Brisbane paramedic.
While not replacing proper training simply watching a UA-cam tutorial will give you a basic understanding and be good enough to use in an emergency, if you understand the basics it's very hard to give bad cpr.
@@thomassmith3131 Excellent advice. An attempt is better than no attempt at all. Fracturing ribs is one thing that people find daunting. We generally do 1-2 resus jobs a week that require CPR, and after 25 years you hardly remember most. The first one where you feel ribs crack like corn flakes will never be forgotten. People survive rib fractures, but few if none from no treatment at all.
Hey neighbour. I’d highly recommend taking one of the St John Ambo basic life support courses. Recently Greg the OG yellow wiggles held the worlds largest CPR course via zoom.
A first aid course is great because there’s no blood and guts. It’s you, a class, and mannequins. The instructors are brilliant.
I’ll say this- CPR & first aid happens in a way where you don’t have time, opportunity or clarity of mind to open a metronome app, never mind follow it.
The thing which will give you the most courage is by taking a first aid course. Then you’ve already got the skill set to lean on. Keep it updated, try and do it annually.
Who knows, you might walk away having had such a positive experience that your phobias shed away like old layers.
You see there’s nothing much to be scared of. I can very much empathise & relate. I had a crippling vomit phobia. I ended up doing nursing. First hour in my first shift, a patient almost drowned in their vomit.
Thrown in the deep end and didn’t look back. It feels so good to shed the chains that a phobia brings.
Also, check out the first aid kits that ST John ambulance sell. Especially being rural, I think it’s critical to keep one in your car. You’re a lot more likely to be first on scene to a bad car smash, or someone run over by a sheep or something. Help is much further away. It’s awesome to have the necessary kit and even better to have the skills to go with it.
I believe in you. Good luck
@@ScoobyDoozy I like reading how you had emetophobia. Mine was a fear of needles. back when doing my ambo training, probably just like nursing we'd stick needles into oranges to practice IM and SC techniques. And we had great mannequin arms that would give flashback when cannulating if you got it right. During one of my in-hospital placements I had a brilliant RN named Nurse Dokter (yep!) who taught me the secrets of successful cannulations. I'd get a kick when an Intensive Care Paramedic would struggle to get a 16g into a dorsum and I succeed in getting an 18g in. Now I often say "I used to be scared of needles, but now I can give them all day!
It's kinda creepy staring into the eyes of a dead man (as he was at the time), but really educational as well to know what it looks like. Glad they didn't blur it all out to sanitise it, that's reality
Dead and braindead are not the same, after your heart stops its about 10 mins till your fully dead as in brain death occurs
@@alexisentonfire yeah realise that
@@alexisentonfire even then you are not realy dead the damage is to big to have a good outcome
@@alexisentonfire Pretty sure it's called clinical death. So essentially, the guy was dead in that moment.
@@laurahamilton325 yup that was my point. Thanks for clarifying it! 👍
I really appreciate how that doctor held the conversation with the son. Too many families are blindsided, either in a community setting with paramedics, or more commonly an inpatient with treating doctors. Doctors have a severe aversion to saying the word “die”. Beautifully done. Shocked and delighted to see this had an outcome nothing short of miraculous, due to the heroic efforts of all involved.
And at the same time they didn't stop and continued. Here with a person at that age at least, they would have stopped after 30 minutes.
It's absolutely ludicrous that a golf course doesn't have an on-site defibrillator!
Especially golf players are usually older and retired people than young players.
Ludicrous too that the family had to fund raise to buy one for them.
So happy he made it. Watching the crew work on him was amazing
Should have switched compressors. Seemed like she was on there a while and the rate was slowing.
So happy for this happy ending!
I know that around the UK old style phone boxes have been given a new lease of life, by becoming homes for defribulators, particularly in rural villages.
But sporting venues such as a golf course should be encouraged to have them as a matter of course.
What a wonderful recovery story! ❤
No shit i screamed when i saw him alive… fuckin HELLL WOW
So I’m an American, and here we would have transported the fastest way possible. So that makes me wonder why they didn’t use the helicopter. Amazing job on the rescue though!
I think they mentioned briefly that the crew could work on the patient in the ambulance, assumedly due to the helicopter being too cramped.
I'm Not sure if your a First responder Or not but Most Cpr/CCR protocols Say To Transport after a Certain amount of time Like my departments protocol is 40 Minutes. Depending on the Situation you have more of a Chance of survival Being with Medics then at the hospital. since the hospital will call you Deceased Early on. the reason why there's so much of a time before transporting is because you can give your certain medications, Like your Epi, Sodium Bicarb, Whatever else you wanna add to that. Plus your trying to Look over your H's and T's Getting that all done. but A lot of Air meds In US Wont even transport Patients who are very critical Because How small it is in the Helicopter, and If the patient codes, its really crap to do Cpr in small spaces.
@@FF2665No reason to transport unless you have a return of pulses or a very well organized ECMO team. There is nothing the hospital has to offer that can’t be provided by EMS for a cardiac arrest.
Defibs should be mandotory every way
Whoever’s likening why don’t like it’s sad
It annoys me when they mix up a heart attack and a cardiac arrest.
Though…semantically correct, the pt probably had an MI preceding SCA.
There are different causes a cardiac arrest; not all merely due to a myocardial infarction (which is the medical term for a heart attack).
Can anyone explain why they put on the isolation gear and coats?:)
Is it because they suspected the patient having covid?
This was filming a couple years ago during the pandemic where it was covid was more of an unknown regards to transmission and vaccines weren't as widely available so it was more of a precaution.
Anybody reading this qualified to share their local cardiac arrest guidelines? In most if not all of Australia you work for 20 minutes, then call it if there's no ROSC. Anything other than asystole gets transported. Naturally there are variations, but is it much different elsewhere?
Here in the netherlands its up to the paramedics but age and medical history play a part a 80 year old heart patient they will stop after x amount of minutes
But say a 15 year old kid they will try until they reach a hospital or the medical history is so long that they decide the kid is not going to make it and stop cpr
So its all to the discretion of the paramedics and air ambulance staff
U.S. medic here. I ask family’s wishes, look at my initial rhythm, see if it was witnessed or not and make a determination from there. Asystole after 2-3 epi and I call it.
UK Here -
Anyone with injury incompatible with life won't get treatment (obviously). This is including kids (excluding rigor & hypostasis).
15 Mins of No/Ineffective CPR pre-arrival - crews aren't required to start, but often will anyway if witnessed.
30 Mins (changed from 20 about 6 weeks ago) of persistant asystole despite ALS - patient can be recognised life extinct (ROLE).
To ROLE a pt, all reversable causes must be addressed.
A pt in refractory VF/constant PEA can be ROLEd at scene with appropriate backing (usually from HEMS on-scene decision).
Even here in Aus, it depends on the pt and cause of arrest. E.g drowning, electrocution, hanging, trauma resulting in blood loss & arrest, anaphylaxis, children and young patients can go 40min to over an hour. MI, obese and/or elderly, extensive medical history etc will bring it 20 minutes or radically less than, sometimes as much as 5.
@@ScoobyDoozy Precisely. My bit about " Naturally there are variations" was my caveat. Your comments were spot on.
Really feel for the son, he handled that so well really professional not to panic everyone, glad everyone is well
Top lad. Can't even fathom. Unimaginable panic in that situation. Handled it quite well, considering.
Surprisingly, it's a fairly common reaction when there's few people around. More often than not I ran codes on folks with only their spouse or a handful of family around; rarely any panic. The shock of trying to process what's happened tends to freeze folks up. Glad this man fully recovered and god bless him and his son, whole family, and the responders.
Salute to the paramedics and the whole crew who attended to him. Seeing him in full recovery is really a proof of how effective and efficient CPR can do wonders ❤ It was beautiful to see how they had remained calm and consistent the whole time. I think that the paramedics/first responders are the frontliners of all the frontliners, salute to them all!
Others would have given him up and hand him over to funeral services. But they used all of their ressources even way after 30 minutes.
I’m so pleased for Carl & the medics. They never gave up and were rewarded for their efforts. It’s one of the things that scares me most about life tbh, one minute you’re alive, the next dead and if it happens when you’re on your own then you’re finished.
Brilliant outcome, despite being oh-so rare. AEDs and CPR does save lives, along with aggressive ACLS intervention by Paramedics and rapid transport. Well done to all involved. Cheers.
Did he actually get ECPR or PCI, cause otherwise there isnt much more you can do inside the hospital that you cannot in the field
You would’ve think the owner of the golf club would’ve went out and bought a defibrillator and felt guilty for not even having one to begin with.
Because the owner is not a parademic, doctor.
Him speaking at the end actually made me cry. Amazing! How lovely to see him well after those horrible images of him getting cpr
That same gal was doing compressions the whole time, wonder why they weren’t changing compressors
Excellent work. I'm thrilled for the patient and family for his recovery. I am retired and have performed CPR about 1500 times as both a military Medical Corpsman and in Respiratory Therapy . Well done my colleagues.
Working on an ambulance and a golf course and a golfer. This story is so good. Shout out to the randoms that stepped in 🤘🏼
That son did so well, he wasn't freaking out or anything, I would've been terrified but he did amazing and was so brave not even knowing whether he'd come out with a dad or not
My god how did his son handle it so well !
Stiff british upper lip
keep calm and carry on
I saw the HEMS london air ambulance flying over my house earlier today. The greatest respect for them. :) Thank you for your service
You’d think in health class in high school, CPR would be standard.
If everyone learned basic chest compressions many less people would die or suffer other complications.
Oh wow he survived. 👍
A lot of schools do teach it, but the skill is rarely maintained.
Keeping the family informed is rarely a priority, which at least doubles the stress on them. I'm glad to see that the son was updated on his father's condition and treatment.
Defibs only work on two rhythms, V-fib and V-tach, so they're not always effective.
Would have been in this situation!
They’re the more common rhythms in these situations usually as well as often the most survivable
The machine can detect what rhythm you're in and will advise accordingly.
Watching this gives me insight to exactly how they helped my dad, died of ischemic heart disease, dropped dead at work in September. colleagues fought to save his life, paramedic there within minutes they gave defibrillator to him... but didn't work. They worked on him for an hour. This video hit hard and I just had vision's of my dad when watching this. Genuine gratefulness for those that try to save life's.
Sorry to hear it. I hope it brings you some comfort that, at least, everything has been tried to save your dad. Hope you're dealing with it okay.
@NeverTurnOffTheAmp hi, I'm dealing with it I guess but that emotion gets me often... listening to his last voice mail or looking at pictures. But I'm OK I guess but I miss him more than I though possible. It does indeed help knowing they trued their damn best to keep him alive...but I see videos around of people who survived heart attacks...and jealousy kind of kicks in and I think we'll why couldn't my dad. But life is a circle... I know it doesn't work that way. Thank-you xx
Insane. Don’t take life for granted.
I feel like they don’t do this for people in America….my uncle died in the ambulance they didn’t use anything like this on him I don’t think
AEDs should be mandatory in all commercial and non residential buildings.
“ it sounds like a heart attack “ no it doesn’t it’s a cardiac arrest very different from a heart attack
It sounds like a heart attack that caused cardiac arrest....
This is why I hate these shows. They should be accurate. And yet, they’re not.
@@findthebadger418heart attack is accurate. It’s a term used to describe a myocardial infarction. A patient in persistent ventricular fibrillation has likely had a heart attack causing it.
Particularly seeing as the patient ended up getting a bypass and an ICD.
Being a good medic is a balance between the technical and the layman, because you work in both.
😢 this is playing just like my brother heart attack on golf course yesterday . Blessed that there was a heart surgeon on the course and two medic eating lunch at club house . He got immediate attention. We are very thankful to all who helped him . May God Bless them , thank you !
Wow...right place at the right time ❤😊😊😊
Wishing your brother a good recovery 🤩🤩🤩
Absolutely, very blessed and thankful
Incredible to see what professionals and technology are capable of today. And to see him in such a great condition after this. And then the fact that there is a possibility to bring people to hospital while in cardiac arrest due to automatic CPR machines is another great invention.
Very glad to hear that this gentleman survived. It must have been terrifying for he and his son!
Chest compressions ❤
I've done this a long time 30 years . Never easy, thanks for a job well done HEROES!!!!!!!
Cardiac arrest, heart attack, strokes why so vulnerable 😭
Brillant work!!! 🍀💪🏻
The narrator really doesn’t know what he’s reading lol. You do manual CPR even if there is a defib. They work side by side
Rip
I swear the device that does chest compressions for you is such an amazing thing to see I know there's one called Lucas and I've heard stories where people said it works so well that the person was conscious for a little bit even though the heart was still in bad shape.
Great ending to a potentially bad ending. Strong work ❤
First,Switch compressors every 2 min, second you have an advanced airway, bag continuously instead of taking precious time off the chest.
What a great ending!
He’s not “really poorly” he’s technically dead
Yeah british doctors tend to put things very nicely, he was blunt with the son because he needs to be but obviously hes gonna be generally gentler.
Where I live in the UK.. Lancaster area there has been a defib recently installed at the local co.op.. they raised funds for it and another has been added at a fuel station..
I think there is now 11 total within a 2 mile radius ❤❤❤❤❤❤😊
i think they need to find a way to produce defibs at a lower price, this will in turn make them more commonly available, for example id love to carry one in my car as a first aider but just cant afford it at all
Great outcome but... That poor woman was on the chest far too long while there was others on scene that could have swapped. After every 2 minute cycle the person on the chest should change, its tiring.
Why did some paramedics have the Mask on with the air pipe but some dont?
Why was the DCA paramedic wearing such a weird mask?
Anyone know why they have breathing apperatus on?
You also need to realise the brain has not oxygen in that time. Can also have lasting effects
I’m so glad he made a recovery must of been very traumatic for his son
Good man! Brilliant team well done
He's really poorly .he's dead
What amazing rescuers,theyre angels on earth
In Germany he wouldn't make it...
Why?
Why?
There is nothing to suggest that
1:45 that gives me chills
It's a shame lots of people die because thiers not enough ambulances if you have a cardiac arrest at home in the UK now ull probably die because the ambulance will take 2 long to get to you
No
They don't. 5-10mins is average response and they're category 1 calls if I'm on my way to cat 2 or 3 and a cardiac arrest comes in. I'll be diverted A if I'm closest crew and B it's priority and someone will be sent to my original call.
Please ask or research before making judgement. I do agree more trucks are needed. But they're doing the best they can
@@Rachbum7 yeah ryt 🤣
Aaebsoz me d s si
is it normal in england that the doc just stand there and watch? In Germany our docs rush to the pat. and starts to intubate or just do anything
In these situations they are likely team lead so need to step back from physically doing anything and to direct. Good resuscitation is all about communication and knowing each others roles in the scenario. By the looks of the video the paramedics had already secured an airway and were carrying out good resuscitation. The doctor would've been aware of this and directing the scene. If needed they would jump in. As part of the role of lead they would also keep family informed.
It’s normal in England that ambulance crews are trained to the highest level of pre-hospital advanced life support. There is not a lot a doctor brings to the table that an advanced paramedic can’t in a medical out of hospital cardiac arrest.
If you can name a single thing a doctor can do by “rushing to the pat.” instead of co-ordinating the scene and giving specific clinical guidance, while pre-hospital specialists work… say it.
Full recovery, wow.
Doing gods work
Wow great job Ems crew!!
I Hope Is ok now 🙏♥️
If I get CPR again I want fentanyl or morphine or BOTH. It hurts SO much. You look dead but you are aware.
That’s so fascinating. I didn’t know there was any awareness during cardiac arrest.
@@eneedham789 look it up its scary.
@@eneedham789 You're not, he's talking out of his arse.
@@JonesykinsCPR induced consciousness is possible, where the compressions are so effective that oxygenated blood is reaching the brain so well that you regain consciousness.
But that is not what’s happening here.
@@dangp7 I am well aware of what CPR induced consciousness is. It is not that.
Patient's presenting with CPRIC are not actually awake and alert.
Did Carl Make It Or Carl Died
I guess you didn't finish the video...
CPR 30 compression 5 cycles
and 2 ventilations in between
Heart attack or not there's absolutely no way you'd get me in a deathtrap of a helicopter. I'd rather take my chance going by road.
Helicopters should be one of the safest transportation in the world than other ground transportation. It can fly over anywhere like traffic jams, waters, rough terrain and so much more. The flying crews are rigorously and professionally trained and practiced for years to operate a helicopter.
I know CPR I save a man life in train station in Singapore
No history of heart problems and has a heart attack at the age of what, 57? Self inflicted if you ask me
😂 What?
@@pewpew4545 what I said
@@yerrrboy100 A self inflicted cardiac arrest?
Good job no one asked you then isn't it you dumbass.
@@mikeoxlong3473 how am I dumb