I love it when journeyman craftsman take the time to share information and tips that they have learned, sometimes the hard way , with younger men just trying to get started in the trade. I served an apprenticeship many years ago as a machinist and still have fond memories of the men who helped me when I was a greenhorn trying to get started in the trade. God bless the craftsman of the world.They are the people who built this country.
A good friend from Texas visited us here in Alberta and bought me a pancake. Sorry to say it's not allowed on many jobsites but when I can, I'll slip it on and enjoy American made. 😎
Jacob Schofield Safety glasses won't fit too comfortably and with so many sites expecting hard hat combos, you could only wear it burning rod in your backyard. SMH.
I been welding for over 30 years and never used a pancake hood!! But I weld inside mostly!! And thanks for the cool info man! I have learned some things!!
Very interesting. I was aware of pancake hoods but never considered the issue of light from the rear. I use a standard hood and have that problem in my brightly lit shop all the time. It's very annoying. I've been thinking of ways to fix it using some kind of drape over the back of the hood or something. Maybe I should try a pancake. Hmm.
I know this a old video but I lost my $60 blue demon clearview lens 3 days after getting them. I weld a wooden barge putting these building some bumpers for them big boats to bump in to and I notice my lenses came loose and they needed a welder to weld something at the moment and i accidentally flipped my hood up to grind then when I went to flip my hood down my fingers went straight through the lens slot. I looked at the water there was every thing sunk to the bottom at least 5 feet deep. I threw shirt and shield off quick and I could top the bottom and tried using a shovel to find it but it was gone. I learn from my stupid mistake, if something fails with ur personal equipment no matter what the job need done within that time frame, fix your stuff. And that was the first auto dark lenses I've ever used and I've being welding since 2017 my 10th grade year. To anyone who trys to put a variable shade auto dark lenses in a fibre metal tigerhood make sure to trim enough wear the lenses squeezes in and cover the lens slot with something. If a piece of gorilla tape works use it.
I learned to love my respirator hood, cause it keeps the shop lights, or open door daylight off my lens. I can see some much better, & no stinky smoke. 😎
I always feel like I look like a lunatic when I look at myself through the reflection lol. Sometimes im like "Is that really how I look" lol and then I realize its just because I'm concentrating on the weld, and that's about when the puddle almost drips out because I was preoccupied staring at myself.
@@JacobSchofield I myself would see my reflection in there, Yell, drop my lead, throw the hood, run a couple steps, guys would com running WHAT HAPPENED? YOU OK?!? THERE'S A BIG HAIRY MONSTER IN MY HOOD!!! AAAAUUUGGGH!! Gave everyone a good laugh when we ALL needed it most!!
This is outstanding information. I wonder how many people who do fences, rails, staircases/fire escapes, and other residential related welding work use pancakes for the same reasons.
I do fence, corral, cattle guards, equipment repair, hard facing, and I use pancake hoods, I like how lightweight they are, and the back light elimination. And how you don't fight trying to keep it on your head when in awkward positions.
Hey I've got the sarges pancake hood and I bought the Wendy's strap seperater and put on there i did have to take some little bitty things of the Wendy's to make it work
I put a couple pieces of glove on the wood to soften it up helps with the seal I think love mine and have had it split where your Wendy's is reinforced gorilla glue is your friend 😀just thought I'd throw that out there great video Jake 🤘
The original pancake hood seems to be a better design, as it's face shield is all one piece it has less parts to break - although it will warp out slightly over time where it rounds from face to ear cover. You can also get it in flip front or not, dunno if that an option on either of those. Personally I prefer the scoop with a shade 10 gold lens over anything I've ever used, never been distracted by the reflection inside.
Fred Sanford for sure man everybody has there own preference no doubt. Th originals are good hoods to there little bigger then these pancakes but great hoods
I remember rounding my first lense box ..... Then I wondered why I burned up caps so quickly lol ..... That was back in 2016 now I got 2 pancakes and I will never use a Dremel or a grinder, I will always hand sand them
I was given both a wendys and a sarge. The sarge sits further from my face and i feel it a little crooked. They took the time in the Wendys to perfect it. I like my Wendys
Looking to get a Wendy’s hood, It’ll be my first pancake. Wondering if anyone had advise on what size opening I should get. I obviously want a autodarkening lens. But I’m wondering what’s the best. Battery or solar, I wanna figure this out before ordering mine. Thanks in advance.
with my wendys i have trouble keeping the lense tight against my hood. is that normal or not. i can push on my clear lense from the front of the hood and push my lense is that supposed to be tight or loose?
Thanks Jacob. I am an old guy learning a new trade. I appreciate people like you taking the time to help out those just learning. Keep up the good work!
Could I use a pancake hood if I’m doing structural welding since it’s mainly outdoors? Also, could a fixed kind fit like a solar powered auto dark or a battery powered?
I just got mine and I would buy it you can see better and then when your welding under or something you won’t get sparks that fall in your hood and burn your face
I'd like to see how someone modifies it for someone who has to wear glasses under the hood. I prefer Tom Water glasses. How tight do you wear your pancakes? I'd prefer the flip up lens I never been a fan of auto darks because of my crazy eye sight.
Seems like it cost more money and effort to use a pancake than a flip hood or sugar scoop. The AD I've been using for 3ish years cost around 80$ and has a 5-13 shade range. Haven't had too much of a problem with glare either. Has anyone had a pancake make a massive difference?
Yes, I don't have a neck ache at the end of the day for one thing, and when in really awkward positions, I'm not fighting to keep it in position, and on my head.
I’m trying to decide which hood to buy. I’m mostly inside in a shop (in school) and im trying to decide if I should buy a tiger hood or a pancake. Any suggestions?
Just got my new pancake in today..is the bottom part of the box supposed to rest on the bridge of your nose and cheeks?? Ive got the top part to fit perfectly. The bottom part seems uncomfortable though
jason willis yes sir it's supposed to block all the sun. Keep working the bottom though it should fit really comfortable against your face just go slow
Anybody tried one of those aluminum pancakes (on Ebay)? They are supposed to be as light as a regular pancake. They would surely be more durable. But they would probably be hotter as aluminum soaks up heat.
You can go to tractor supply and buy a cheap hood that has the singles lenses in it. $25.00 for the whole hood vs. buying the lense by itself for $75.00
Now sometimes hoods come with plastic lens or who knows what lens. This is your eyes your playing with so i always throw anyone that comes in there i go to the welding store and get something new or use my solars. Keep safe you only have one set of eyes
Tanner Cannon the batteries are awesome cause when they go out just put new batteries in them, when a solar goes out you have to replace the whole lense. I've always just used solar.
you can hit a nuke and some of them give those singles out as a consumable and you can get one per week or per day depending on who is in the tool room
Most people in here are so damn cheap... Us REAL welders actually look for quality hoods with quality lenses. Of course it's going to cost a pretty penny to protect yourself well... Just saying...
I love it when journeyman craftsman take the time to share information and tips that they have learned, sometimes the hard way , with younger men just trying to get started in the trade. I served an apprenticeship many years ago as a machinist and still have fond memories of the men who helped me when I was a greenhorn trying to get started in the trade. God bless the craftsman of the world.They are the people who built this country.
man Wes you are a 100% right i still remember the old guys that helped me and I owe them so much for the info.
i just got my first pancake a week ago. (sarge's). I love it wear it all the time. I kept trying to nod with it though and felt stupid.
hahaha old habits die hard lol
A good friend from Texas visited us here in Alberta and bought me a pancake. Sorry to say it's not allowed on many jobsites but when I can, I'll slip it on and enjoy American made. 😎
hahah there really nice huh. i wounder why it wouldnt be allowed in canada?
Jacob Schofield
Safety glasses won't fit too comfortably and with so many sites expecting hard hat combos, you could only wear it burning rod in your backyard. SMH.
i was curious if it was allowed up here.
I been welding for over 30 years and never used a pancake hood!! But I weld inside mostly!! And thanks for the cool info man! I have learned some things!!
I've had mine for around 4 months & I absolutely love it. Great video as always!
Christopher Zalayes thank you sir
I was wondering about that hood. I couldn't understand why it was preferred. Your videos are awesome thank you
Andrew Villaneda man you wount regret it. They are awesome!! Love them.
Very interesting. I was aware of pancake hoods but never considered the issue of light from the rear. I use a standard hood and have that problem in my brightly lit shop all the time. It's very annoying. I've been thinking of ways to fix it using some kind of drape over the back of the hood or something. Maybe I should try a pancake. Hmm.
Phillip you wount regret it. I love my hood for sure. and it defenetly takes care of the lighting issue.
I know this a old video but I lost my $60 blue demon clearview lens 3 days after getting them. I weld a wooden barge putting these building some bumpers for them big boats to bump in to and I notice my lenses came loose and they needed a welder to weld something at the moment and i accidentally flipped my hood up to grind then when I went to flip my hood down my fingers went straight through the lens slot. I looked at the water there was every thing sunk to the bottom at least 5 feet deep. I threw shirt and shield off quick and I could top the bottom and tried using a shovel to find it but it was gone. I learn from my stupid mistake, if something fails with ur personal equipment no matter what the job need done within that time frame, fix your stuff. And that was the first auto dark lenses I've ever used and I've being welding since 2017 my 10th grade year. To anyone who trys to put a variable shade auto dark lenses in a fibre metal tigerhood make sure to trim enough wear the lenses squeezes in and cover the lens slot with something. If a piece of gorilla tape works use it.
I learned to love my respirator hood, cause it keeps the shop lights, or open door daylight off my lens. I can see some much better, & no stinky smoke. 😎
I’m glad I came across this video I have been Wonting a pancake hood but that’s to much crap to do
I always feel like I look like a lunatic when I look at myself through the reflection lol. Sometimes im like "Is that really how I look" lol and then I realize its just because I'm concentrating on the weld, and that's about when the puddle almost drips out because I was preoccupied staring at myself.
I know the feeling lol thats why i like the pancakes no reflection
@@JacobSchofield I myself would see my reflection in there, Yell, drop my lead, throw the hood, run a couple steps, guys would com running WHAT HAPPENED? YOU OK?!?
THERE'S A BIG HAIRY MONSTER IN MY HOOD!!! AAAAUUUGGGH!!
Gave everyone a good laugh when we ALL needed it most!!
This is outstanding information. I wonder how many people who do fences, rails, staircases/fire escapes, and other residential related welding work use pancakes for the same reasons.
I do fence, corral, cattle guards, equipment repair, hard facing, and I use pancake hoods, I like how lightweight they are, and the back light elimination.
And how you don't fight trying to keep it on your head when in awkward positions.
Hey I've got the sarges pancake hood and I bought the Wendy's strap seperater and put on there i did have to take some little bitty things of the Wendy's to make it work
I put a couple pieces of glove on the wood to soften it up helps with the seal I think love mine and have had it split where your Wendy's is reinforced gorilla glue is your friend 😀just thought I'd throw that out there great video Jake 🤘
for sure i carry a tube of that stick and stay cause eventually you will need it for sure
Wendys have an elkhide cushion kit you can get for 18 dollars
Sarge hood's are my favorite....but I like my scoop sense I'm not running pipe any more..
Charles Washington true that it's all personal preference.
The original pancake hood seems to be a better design, as it's face shield is all one piece it has less parts to break - although it will warp out slightly over time where it rounds from face to ear cover. You can also get it in flip front or not, dunno if that an option on either of those. Personally I prefer the scoop with a shade 10 gold lens over anything I've ever used, never been distracted by the reflection inside.
Fred Sanford for sure man everybody has there own preference no doubt. Th originals are good hoods to there little bigger then these pancakes but great hoods
I remember rounding my first lense box ..... Then I wondered why I burned up caps so quickly lol ..... That was back in 2016 now I got 2 pancakes and I will never use a Dremel or a grinder, I will always hand sand them
I was given both a wendys and a sarge. The sarge sits further from my face and i feel it a little crooked. They took the time in the Wendys to perfect it. I like my Wendys
Randomchannel love my Wendy's
Looking to get a Wendy’s hood, It’ll be my first pancake. Wondering if anyone had advise on what size opening I should get. I obviously want a autodarkening lens. But I’m wondering what’s the best. Battery or solar, I wanna figure this out before ordering mine. Thanks in advance.
I went exactly with what he recommended, the ArcOne shade 11. I now own 6 hoods and the most recent 3 I got I put that in each of them.
If you buy a metal man auto darkening hood from tractor supply you can steal the solar powered lens out of it and the hood is about 40 bucks
Cmpmp or just buy a solar lense online lol they’re cheaper than dissecting and throwing away a good hood.
I just got my first pancake, so do I need to sand a notch in the forehead piece to accommodate for my cap?
i bought a left handed pancake just like the one in this video but i can’t figure out which lense i need
Present 2022 prices sarges 115$ on Amazon wendys 120$ note that it is with taxes and shipping on Amazon
Great video guys thanks!
with my wendys i have trouble keeping the lense tight against my hood. is that normal or not. i can push on my clear lense from the front of the hood and push my lense is that supposed to be tight or loose?
Well damn, a 95$ lense is insane, I normally get aurmor guard 40$ a peice and comes with 2 clears
Dam with no stranger staring back at me how will i carry on a convesation?
My #1 thing is the backlighting outdoors sux. Pancake in my future.
Have you ever worn a double ear pancake before?
I've been looking at CMR fabrication for my pancakes and even out law leather... Idk.. I'm quality over quantity
What are your thoughts on using a pancake for production mig welding indoors??
Good video. Short, informative and to the point. 👍 Where is a good place to order quality welding caps at not too expensive prices? Thanks
thanks man. Just did a video on where i order my caps they are from Dabec welding hats and they are 14.00
+Jacob Schofield Thanks, I'll check them out. 👍👍👍👊👊👊
What’s the main purpose for a pancake opposed to any other kinda hood
Can you fit a magnifier lens in a pancake hood?
ScottH yes sir you just order it for the battery lense then use a solar and the cheater will fit with it
Thanks Jacob. I am an old guy learning a new trade. I appreciate people like you taking the time to help out those just learning. Keep up the good work!
Could I use a pancake hood if I’m doing structural welding since it’s mainly outdoors? Also, could a fixed kind fit like a solar powered auto dark or a battery powered?
Oh 100% they are way better for outside work anyway no reflection coming from the back side.
What is the difference in the shade of the lens? Is it all preference?
These are hilarious. Looks as funny as the Chinese Production Hoods but a little less flammable than a piece of paper with sunglasses.
try one man I promise you will not regret it.
But it makes you look like Sponge Bob Circle Head.
@@CPUDOCTHE1 It ain't a fashion show out here, it's whatever works best.
thanks guys, good ino.
Should I buy a pancake hood if I am working inside. I can see my reflection in my shop and outside but I don't know if I should spend the money on one
I just got mine and I would buy it you can see better and then when your welding under or something you won’t get sparks that fall in your hood and burn your face
Can i order that wendy hood
Got a Sarge's hood and I have to say it's kinda on the small side for me. I'm a big guy so I guess it might be me hahaha
hahahah what do you think of it though have you been using it.
I'd like to see how someone modifies it for someone who has to wear glasses under the hood. I prefer Tom Water glasses. How tight do you wear your pancakes? I'd prefer the flip up lens I never been a fan of auto darks because of my crazy eye sight.
ChrisLawley they make pancakes for people with and without glasses
yes they do just a lot of tweaking i learned to make the glasses work
@@ChrisLawley43 If your like me and have to wear bi focals I just got some magnifyn lenses, and do just fine.
Thanks for the info. I wearing ear plugs and try turtle necks when welding.
Seems like it cost more money and effort to use a pancake than a flip hood or sugar scoop. The AD I've been using for 3ish years cost around 80$ and has a 5-13 shade range. Haven't had too much of a problem with glare either. Has anyone had a pancake make a massive difference?
Yes, I don't have a neck ache at the end of the day for one thing, and when in really awkward positions, I'm not fighting to keep it in position, and on my head.
Welding wire in mud tanks I got arc burn
I invested in a pancake and its amazing no glare from the sun your arc is more clear to see etcetera
I’m trying to decide which hood to buy. I’m mostly inside in a shop (in school) and im trying to decide if I should buy a tiger hood or a pancake. Any suggestions?
I would buy a pancake if they will let you wear it. it will block all the reflection bouncing off the walls
Just got my new pancake in today..is the bottom part of the box supposed to rest on the bridge of your nose and cheeks?? Ive got the top part to fit perfectly. The bottom part seems uncomfortable though
jason willis yes sir it's supposed to block all the sun. Keep working the bottom though it should fit really comfortable against your face just go slow
Hello folks, can someone please share the size of the clear lenses that go before and after your singles
I believe they are 2.25” by 4” I think.
do these hoods accommodate respirators? i fcmaw and stick weld a lot and i want a good hood that will accommodate a respirator, any suggestions?
isellcatlitter pipeliner/scoop
Anybody tried one of those aluminum pancakes (on Ebay)? They are supposed to be as light as a regular pancake. They would surely be more durable. But they would probably be hotter as aluminum soaks up heat.
That was my thought but i didnt realize they even built an aluminum hood like that lol
What if your a younger welder an just starting out what would you say for itvice
Judson dillehay go to school. Join a union start out as a welder helper
You can go to tractor supply and buy a cheap hood that has the singles lenses in it. $25.00 for the whole hood vs. buying the lense by itself for $75.00
Jacob Hamm that's true for sure.
Now sometimes hoods come with plastic lens or who knows what lens. This is your eyes your playing with so i always throw anyone that comes in there i go to the welding store and get something new or use my solars. Keep safe you only have one set of eyes
Can you make a pancake hood fit around glasses?
Yes look up Tom Waters pipeliner Glasses. they come in prescription or nonprescription and they fit under the hoods.
Hey would you recommend the singles solar powered lens over a battery powered
Tanner Cannon the batteries are awesome cause when they go out just put new batteries in them, when a solar goes out you have to replace the whole lense. I've always just used solar.
Jacob Schofield Thanks pal, be safe
I've heard of some being used on pipeline but safety man wants flip fronts. ☹
They make them with flip up lens holders
How does an entry welder get experience on the rig?
buy a truck and go test man. or go out as a singlke hand welder
Where do you buy your beanies
Uh?
Are you recording this?
Derek Wendt yes why?
Jacob Schofield
Just a joke...
There was a guy in the video who kept asking you that.
Lol
Oh hahah Danny.
You guy from Idaho? I'm going to Isu right now.
Andrew Witcher yes sir we are from Shelley idaho by idaho falls
How old is Jed? If he doesn't mind me asking.
Jed is 25 years old
you can hit a nuke and some of them give those singles out as a consumable and you can get one per week or per day depending on who is in the tool room
So after some time with the sarges which do you prefer?sarges or wendys?
I really like a Wendys for the way they are built but they are a little heavier.
Basil wood dust there Jed, orr uhh? You know what they say...strippers and blow 😂😂 I'm just pocking fun. Great video as usual brother!
Where get it?
Wendy’s or sarge online will have them.
I’ll stick with my Lincoln 3350
To much work for a helmet
I had mine for 10 years. Regular welding helmet. 25 bucks.
First 😏
BOOK OUT lol love it!!
I like Wendy's better you can also use a cheater in stead of glasses
Forrest Otterman oh ya true that.
Get Tom waters glasses. ansi rated safety glasses that auto tint and fit under a pancake
Most people in here are so damn cheap... Us REAL welders actually look for quality hoods with quality lenses. Of course it's going to cost a pretty penny to protect yourself well... Just saying...
How often should you change your lens?
i always just carry two with me. so whenever the one quit works i just switch over to the other and go buy another back uo.