Lumix S5iiX vs Sony A7RV Which is better for Video???
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- Опубліковано 25 вер 2023
- Which camera is better for videographers, the Sony A7R5 or the Lumix S5iiX? This is the video to watch if you're looking to buy your next camera for serious videography work and take your production quality to the next level! Let me know which is your favourite...
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Which camera is your choice for video???
S52X for sure. Worth the money
lumix S5IIX , its long term cinema work horse!
@@youfollow_ yes
S5IIx because of the specs, the value and the beauty (I'm just as black as it is 🤣😂)
Lumix always the best, Cheaper price than Sony, specs are always higher than Sony
B for Lumix. I chose that because of the stabilization.
S5IIx is The Beastmonster. Features, price, performance all balanced together. Sits right up there with my favourite drones (and guitars).
Another expertly put video. Can’t agree with you more
For video, i would definitely go with the Lumix. They would have been the industry standard if not for the auto-focus issues. But now they have fixed that anything is possible. Even though i have the A7R i would still like to get my hands on the Lumix. The GH5 was a great camera.
Another ripper video mate. I've very close to pulling that trigger on the S5iix... its $3500 AUD with the kit lens here in Oz.. The autofocus and stabe seems so good...
Hey Sam, your content on Lumix this year has been fantastic! So helpful to folks looking to buy the S5IIx. Question for you: have you personally experienced any issues with aliasing or moire on the S5IIx since it lacks a optical low pass filter, or has it not cropped up for you?
I watched many S5iiX video, this is the best. Straight to the point!
Waiting for someone to do this comparison. Thanks buddy ❤
Thanks for watching. Is it as you thought??
@@SamHollandyes . Am currently using gh5 and i moved to lumix just 3 months ago . Must say very much impressed with what gh5 has . Thinking I would be satisfied for decades if moved to s52X 😂😂. Thanks bro for the video.
One point really strikes . Lumix holds on colours during low light. I felt it even with gh5. Getting nice colors 😊
Active cooling is so under rated. Can you imagine you’re filming and then….
The Sony's advantage seems to be the Creator's App, which allows you to receive the image on an iPad and perfectly manage the focus with an assistant with a lens that of course works in autofocus or manual mode with an internal motor, so there's no need to add an external motor. I can't find the Panasonic equivalent anywhere.
Sony cameras work perfectly which is not a bad thing and they are the leaders in developing new tech but cameras like lumix Fuji and blackmagic are just more enjoyable and engaging. In my opinion
All new Sony cameras have serious overheating issues - none of that fancy tech matters when your camera shuts down in the middle of a shoot. 😮
Thank You so much for this video, I have been waiting for. Just subscribed to Your channel. Best regards, Kai the bee filmer from Germany. 😄
Hey. Thanks for the sub 🙏🏻 great to have you here! I hope this video helped. Which is your fav camera after watching this? Thanks for watching and… Bee careful 🐝 😋😂🎥
@@SamHolland thank You so much. My favorite camera is the Lumix S5 II x. 😊😊😊
Considering Lumix actually updates firmware and values their customer. Sony lost their way, their camera lineup is way over bloated and confusing and their cameras are uncomfortable to use with terrible colors. And their lenses are garbage now that Zeiss has exited. Literally the only thing the ever had was autofocus which they don't exclusively have superiority over anymore. Lumix makes superior cameras for half the price.
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The Sony's advantage seems to be the Creator's App, which allows you to receive the image on an iPad and perfectly manage the focus with an assistant with a lens that of course works in autofocus or manual mode with an internal motor, so there's no need to add an external motor. I can't find the Panasonic equivalent anywhere.
Great review, Sam!! Would be amazing if you could compare shots from the Lumix S5iix and the Fuji XH2s. There simply aren't any videos on UA-cam comparing the two cameras. Cheers
Why would you want to compare a full frame camera with an APS-C camera ??? That's not a fair comparison to begin with.
@EmeraldAudiovisual it’s not about what’s fair and who wins etc, it’s just about seeing what they look like and the advantages and disadvantages to find out what’s best for people 🙏🏻
@@SamHolland you may as well throw the Panasonic Lumix G9-II into the mix at that point then. And finding matching lenses will be a nightmare.
@EmeraldAudiovisual I did a video about that last week 😂 🙏🏻
@@SamHolland hah. Missed that one.
Also, I chose B for LUMIX because of the color, it has like a matted look to it. I’m new to grading V-log and it’s throwing me a little bit
s5iiX is a great choice for the money and they haven't even started releasing any real firmwares yet. If they ad that new G9 af algorithm and whatever else they're hiding the choice is a no-brainer
Great video! I wonder about moirè effect, is it big issue for S5 ii x?
Guessed the Lumix as B and do prefer it for video .... and the Canon R3 and R6 MKII would be another good choice we should do a comparison with those too ! 😅
Love my s5ii and I shoot in open gate exclusively!🤘
i believe tamron has some software to make there lenses focus linearly
dunna did a video on that.
Hey Sam, great video. I think you have forgot to add Dannys link. Just a heads up.
Thanks Luke. Just added 🙏🏻📺
informative video.
Thanks John 🎥
Greta comparison review on these tow flagship cameras Sam! Its a No BRAINER! Lumix is back, and on top in FF & MFT cameras now that they've finally incorporated Phase AF! The rest of their camera line have always been solid and that's why I have used them for years. And as you said... for the price Panasonic is always a much BIGGER BANG of your BUCK!
Thank you 🎥😃
4K for my YT Videos is totally fine for me. Looking forward to get this cam 🎉
A looks like Sony and B looks like Lumix based on the rolling shutter of the Sony and IBIS of Lumix. I do like Sony for recording the gyro data for software stabilization and the wireless connectivity with MI shoe for microphones. It also has a good 3rd party app that lets you monitor and control on your iPhone. Those are still big selling points for Sony and although I wouldn’t consider a7iv but would consider ZVE1 or A7S3. However I do prefer the colour and image from Lumix more.
I have Sonys. And I dont like shooting with them. I dont like the menus, I dont like the haptics, I am pissed off by Sony’s lack of firmware support. My recommedation: Dont buy for specs only, but buy into a system where you want to pick up the camera and shoot. And where you get reliable firmware support. Now that Lumix AF is competitive, I might go back.
Lumix is a winner here ! Color is just fantastic!
Wait, you said internal RAW/Braw, does it really do that?? I thought I needed a recorder! I have the S5IIx and that would change everything, I just moved over from the BMPCC 4K. I need to test this!
Honestly, if you don't need pdaf autofocus, the real brilliant is S5 mk1! For 1300 bucks you can get a new full frame camera, often even with lens included.
Did You test S5IIX focus with older EF lenses with Sigma MC21 in continues video mode?
Hi i shoot realestate and weddings what would shoot better video in 4k 60 the lumix s5ii or the A7siii
Hi Sam, I don’t understand why nobody is talking about the low-pass filter that the LUMIX doesn’t have and it can creates moiré effect ruining our footage
Wait, what? I don’t think it can record BRaw to an external SSD… I’m pretty certain you need the Blackmagic Video Assist for that functionality. If I’m wrong, I might have screwed up selling this camera for the new full frame Blackmagic camera, because size, weight, feature wise… it’s pretty hard to beat the Panay. Please speak a bit more to this claim.
No I think you're right. I flipped out when Sam said that and grabbed my camera, updated the firmware just incase and no you can't. You can do SSD pro-res up to 5.9k but its all compressed. That being said, theres nothing RED can do to stop Lumix and BM working together to allow internal B-RAW as its not a true RAW so theres nothing stopping Lumix from doing it internally or at least to a SSD... And with BM just joining the L-mount...maybe Sam knows something we don't and slipped up? One can dream...
You are correct. None of the Panasonic Lumix cameras can record internal RAW (USB-SSD is still internally recording). That's a patent issue, not a capabilities issue. Hence RAW recording on Lumix cameras always is via HDMI to an external recorder. For BRAW, you indeed need the BMD Video Assist.
I am sticking with my S5 and using a lidar with manual anamophic lenses, although if the S5IIx goes on sale, maybe. Thanks.
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S5IIX looks very very tempting for photography too. I don't like Sony, so for me would be great to know how S5IIX stands versus Canon R6, Canon R8, Nikon Z6 II, Nikon Z5, etc. As far as i know, Panasonic seems to bake more noise reduction in raw photo, and Canon the less. So Canon seems to be more detailed.
The Danny's video link is missing... i cannot found it
Is there a reason why you don’t like Sony? Because I think Sony is the most sold and most popular camera since the release of A7III I believe
@@altynnazar I had Sony APSC before and was a nightmare. I had the A6000 and several Nex cameras. I didn't like the menus and UI and the overall rationale of the information provided. The ergonomics were the worst possible. Even new Sony have sub par screens and the menu is not the best, ergonomics are better than before, but Canon, Nikon and Panasonic have better ergonomics. I don't enjoy shooting Sony and I don't like the design, the thought process and the overall brand character. I feel more comfortable with other brands
For me, Lumix is more affordable than Sony with more video features and in my opinion easier to navigate menu system. I also prefer V-log profile and colours. I do like a lot about the Sonys too but for me those are the main important things
You sold it for me, still an incredibly difficult decision though for a hybrid shooter. Always preferred LUMIX colour, video versatility and stabilization.
But wanted the extra MP for prints and wanted to use the 100-400 but nevertheless I’m going for LUMIX despite being primarily a photographer.
I just can’t stand the green and red shifts on the Sony, that colour inaccuracy disturbs my soul.
Hopefully new LUMIX models will have higher MP count and maybe one day we’ll see a promising top notch telephoto zoom for L mount.
I'm still in a dilemma now whether to go for fx30 or s5ii. Currently using Panasonic g85 and its a beast when i shoot wedding videos especially when I shoot solo run and gun because the ibis helps me a lot switching from gimbal to handheld. the Panasonic stabilization is a must for me however i kinda prefer sony color looks and variety of their third party lenses but just cant with Sony's amateur stabilization, i dont want the Hussle to use catalyst browse software for each 100 clips. I have never used a vlog pp before on Panasonic because g85 has none of the log profiles not sure if it is similar to sony S log so I can use varieties of luts
Thank you For the info in the Video. After watching a lot of reviews on the latest full frame video offerings from the main & sub Brand companies, coming from canon full frame & Nikon super35, I’m b most likely going with the S52X over anything else for video. l do like everything about the Sony FX6 as a Full frame Cinema Camera Except for the price. I was wondering. Can you provide a link to the video that you made where you mentioned at the end of this S52X vs A74 video that you show some more sample clips that dive into the color of the S52X more? When you mention watching it next at the 20 second mark right before the of this comparison video, there just are not any links that generate in the Video to click. Nor is there a link that generates to the video you recommend watching at the end of this.
Hi thanks for watching. Sorry about the links. If you type in Sam holland Lumix in UA-cam it will come up with loads OR go to my channel and search Lumix or Sony it will come up but here’s some for you - ua-cam.com/video/oBJ1eUa0Gug/v-deo.htmlsi=LYm_KrHH6fCFeqAt
I use C4K 25fps with my Lumix S5II but have tried 6K as well which I loved, but realized that pretty much everyone is watching 4K on UA-cam so there's not much point of limiting the recording time imo (especially if you only can afford 1 high speed memory card for 6K recording)
Off-topic, do you have any tips or tricks how to remove the autofocus noise when recording with an external audio recorder which is mounted on top of the camera? Mine is picking micro lens noises whenever camera is trying to focus. Very annoying
Only two options: move the mic off the camera on a distance where lens focusing noise is not noticeable or buy another lens that focuses quietly. I did the latter alternative on my set up and using my older noisy lenses for manual focus.
I like how after s5 iix release sony have added several of its features to their new cameras. Someone starts losing clients😅
If people are on the fence for the IIX, B&H has a bundle offer that’s too good to pass up.
I could tell by the stabilization alone what camera was what
does it really shoot RAW internally (using the SSD), without the need of an external recorder?
No it doesn't. He made a mistake.
I have the S5ii and it is fantastic for photography too. Imagine a camera that costs about half of the A7R 5 and out perform it for video by a mile. I’ve had the A7R iv and it took the most tack sharp photos of any camera but the LUMIX isn’t far behind in that respect also.
0:27 the b cam so smoooooth, 100% s5iix
ive had my s5iix all summer and even in the compressed formats, it looks so fantastic. can't wait for my video assist 12g😎
Obviously, B for the stabilization 😅.
I own a a sony a7iv and fx3 and this video made me want to switch to the lumix
Wow!!!
You should weigh out the differences with S5IIX vs the new BMCC6k next. Very similar on almost every front
Definitely one I want to do… although they have the new black magic camera out now so that one 🤩🎥
you are joking? Tell me about that stab on the BMPCC, how about the autofocus?, shall I go on? I love Blackmagic but the camera is not even in the same league as the Lumix unless you want a manual operated cinema camera from the 2010's
@@silbay You clearly know nothing about film production... BMPCC is a film focused camera, not a videography focused camera. Things like autofocus arent used. Stab is preferred absent as it can produce unwanted movement, even when stablisation is turned off. This is where physical stablisation is preferred. Check out all of canon's cinema cameras, arri, red, even Sony. The vast vast majority of them do not have stablisation, barely any of them have functional autofocus and a huge number don't have NDs either. All those things are added externally for control. It's not a cinema camera from 2010s its a cinema camera that competes with it's contemporaries.
But, this is a no-brainer: Lumix S5iiX all the way (I'm still saving up for mine...2000 US$ to go)
Cool
I’d love to see a comparison between the S5iix, Sony ZV-E1 and FX30!
Good idea 👌🏻🎥
You mean FX3. Comparing to the FX30 is pointless, because it's a crop sensor camera. No point doing mix and match.
2:51 what the font?
The stabilization gave it away the lumix is way better 😂 again what lens are you using for vlogging?
20-60 kit lens for my vlogging
A Sony
B Panasonic
Because stabilization
can tell right away while the video look the same the shaky-ness on the sonny was apparent
S52 is the best for me🙂
Ok after watching this video the sony looks horrendous. I would like to know what mode the a7RV was in when filming the basketball shot - was IBIS also on? Active mode or no Electronic stabilization? 4k or 8k? I am locked in with sony lenses but the lumix looks so much better in every way.
Where's the link for Danny?
In the description below 🙏🏻
I dont even have to watch the video to know which one is better, lumix rules😎
But HDMI latency on Lumix... I was waiting for S5IIx, bought S5 a few months before it came out to test Lumix workflow and V-Log. And while I primarily use Blackmagic, I need something with autofocus and run and gun for some minor shoots, but with ability to rig it up if needed. And man, of course i wanted to use BRaw with Lumix, but it's unusable because of HDMI latency and i CAN'T BELIEVE that they didn't fix it with their second generation. I'm looking towards Sony now, either a7IV or A7SIII, at least i can use an external monitor with those. And for people who talk about overheating, it's only aplicable if you shoot weddings or interviews. If you shoot B-Roll, music vids, reels, commercials, where you snap 15 second clips, none will overheat.
Lumix ausome
I liked the sony much more color wise but honestly for vudeo the lumix is better probably
Danny boy's video isnt linked.
It should be there now
The shakiness gave it away
There is no way you didn’t shake the camera purposely on those basketball shots or turn off ibis for the Sony. I’ve used Lumix my whole videography career but I rent FX3, A7RV, and A7Siii when I need a second camera and their ibis is almost as good as Lumix. Your test was 100% wrong, rather it was on accident or on purpose I don’t know but it is wrong and I stand on that 100%.
It was easy to see lumix was B solely due to the obviously better IBIS
First!
If anyone figured out a way to get linear focus on Sony lenses, tag me… desperately looking for a solution to this without buying manual lenses.
B for Linux because of the color saturation
waiting to see what an a7siv will be like/
Looking at footage A one would swear you were filming an earthquake. Geeezzzz!
😂😂😂👏🏻
00:26 The IS is far better with the Lumix!
I know it`s a big effort to create such videos, but I want to share some things I noticed as a viewer that wants this channel to do well! :
1. The music is a bit too calming, combined with your relaxing voice the video feels too slow . Also other youtubers are engaging more with the viewer imo.
2. the studio setting is too static/dark, I`d rather watch someone outside testing some settings/features.
3. The first of the video is very entertaining, and also adds unique value to what other people are showing me, when they compare more than specs. The later sections could be shorter.
Again, just my personal thoughts, I don`t know what your budget is or ur plans for this channel! Also I don`t know if the lenght is meant to be like that for the algo. If so then nevermind.
Thx for the awesome content! :)
Thanks for sharing this feedback. I really appreciate the respectful way you delivered this and I will take it all into consideration. It’s difficult and time consuming to make videos out and about but if it makes it more engaging for the viewer, it’s worth spending that extra time 🙏🏻
Good feed back. Let me give my opinion.
1. The video speed feels about right to me, as a 38yr old videographer. If i want to see fast I would watch shorts.
2. The dark studio setting is nice for me because it shows me how clean the shadows can look coming for the camera he is using, and he didn't just lazily throw a ring light in front of his face. That said more Broll is almost always better. As far as engaging people, this is a tough one... it comes very naturally to some people and some people just have to work very hard at getting better. He probably should study the "process communication model" to better engage with a larger amount of people. I personally love the way he presents.. but I am just one man and a weirdo at that.
3.Intros are normally the most exciting part of a video as you are taught to create a hook, to keep people engaged within the first 5 seconds. It's tough.. UA-cam requires a video to be at least 8 mins long if you want the ability to run an ad in the middle of the video. Otherwise length shouldn't matter.
Hopefully all this is constructive for everyone. My wife and I are taking a week off to look at our channels, to see how we can better communicate and present, so this was a fun and informative post for me to read and compare my thoughts to yours!
@jessecumberledge4530 thank you! 🙏🏻🎥
@@jessecumberledge4530 hey awesome thoughts. Yes it comes down to whoever is watching, I am a bit younger and prefer faster and more "flashy" content. :D
@thefruit fun convo. Thanks for initiating it and making your thoughts know. If you don't mind me asking, what age are you. Just tring to work on some content with my wife, and we are trying to expand our audience a bit.
B is so obvious Panasonic based on IS
Should it be compared to A7SIII ?
It’s coming.
Sony either needs to improve the features Linux has or Lumix needs a compact body.
S5II IBIS 🧈 🤤
I don't think that the S5 ii x can record BRAW to an SSD.
Thy introduced that feature on this cam
not unless they have updated the camera in the last 5 minutes they didn't. It requires an external BlackMagic recorder/display
@@silbayExactly
Pretty Easy, if in your action shot look like there Is a earthquake that's Sony :)
A7RV is more of a high res photo camera. S5IIX is video. compare it to Sony a7sII, EV1, FX3.
6k all day
А7rV is the worst video camera from Sony at the moment. Almost all recording is done with line skipping or binning in the best situation which results in noise and moire. And because of the really slow sensor even in APS-C where it shoots oversampled 4K it has really bad rolling shutter...
I think that they were capable of going back to their older 42mp sensor and it was going to be a better hybrid camera. The 61mp sensor is the worst for video...
But here's the real question S5II or S5IIx?
X
it is obvious which is which due to the horrible stabilization on the Sony, like all the Sony's
I'm just confused on why you're comparing a video camera to a photography camera The Lumix is aimed for video Yes it can take pictures Sony r5 is aimed for photography
The crappy stabilization on the Sony is a dead giveaway
Sony looks digital, Lumix looks cinematic.
I can tell them apart by Sony's awful colors.
you said the sony looks pinkish in the skin tones.. well caucasians are pinkish magenta by nature. we are not yellow. so the sony has very natural skin tones. if you look in the mirror you look like the sony. i dont know why guys think yellow skin tones are better if its not reality.
I would not recommend to buy that Panasonic's "same size" lenses, so plasticy build, very cheap in quality compared to the price. Image is great though, and as "free bundle" lens it's fine, but not for 500+ bucks
The sony ibis is just trash 😂
That rolling shutter 6k on Lumix is BAD!! There’s no secret that this Sony camera isn’t good for video so I’m not sure why you are showing this comparison unless you’re looking to make it look like the Lumix compares to sony.
Put the Lumix up against the equivalent Nikon Z8.
Just interesting isn’t it. I want to compare loads of cameras. And yes… I’d love to. If something is better, it’s better! 🤩🎥
@@SamHolland I’m sincerely sorry Sam, I dig your videos! I’m embarrassed reading my comment back.
I obviously woke up on the wrong side of the bed… I’ve been shopping for a camera for 4 months and have looked at all of them and have owned just about all of the brands, bottom line is Im frustrated and took it out on you, which is ridiculous…
Keep making awesome videos!
@gerrymarzilli 😂 no worries Gerry. It’s all good 🙏🏻🎥 thank you for watching. I appreciate it