I have both, I use scooter for quick rounds to places like work and visiting friends and family, and I get my ebike out when I'm going exploring with friends
Mobility can be another reason that guides your choice. Particularly knee mobility when it comes to peddling. My parter and I recently purchased an e-bike and it was the first time I’d been back on a bike since I injured my knee and had surgery. The top of the upstroke while peddling is painful for me. We’re doing a bit more research into finding the right size bike for me but a scooter may be a better alternative because there is no peddling at all.
that's interesting @dearyvettetn4489, you're the second person to tell me that they're switching to an electric scooter as it's easier on their knees :)
Range - Ebike. Some electric scooters have pretty good range like the Emove Cruiser, but the thing with escooters is what you get is what you get for range. With Ebikes you can extend the range considerably with some pedaling. I have a 52 volt 23 Ah battery on my scooter, and while it gets very good range I still have to think about it. On my ebike I have dual 48 volt 13 Ah batteries for a total of 26 Ah, so for all intents and purposes thats unlimited range as sore butt syndrome will kick in LONG before I get anywhere near the range limit. Also, many escooters can be equipped with a saddle. I have one on mine and this gives me the option to ride sitting or standing, and I think I do about 50/50. Its really nice on long rides since you can keep switching off from sitting to standing. With ebikes it's just sitting, so you're much more likely to experience sore butt syndrome on longer rides. Also adding a saddle lowers your center of gravity and gives you that 5th point of contact, so it does increase stability by a lot (still not as good as an Ebike though). It does throw any hope of looking cool out the window as soon as you install a saddle on it though :). At 60 I could care less about looking cool, but that might be a factor for younger riders.
Awesome @AKCobra1120 comment :) Sore butt syndrome is a thing for sure....and I agree, I don't think the seat on the scooter is going to be a hit with the younger generations lol :) :) Stay cool 😎
@@TimsElectric Nope, it won't lol! In fact I saw a video last year from a guy that had one installed and took it off because his GF said it wasn't a good look. I guess it's freeing to be an old fart and not care about such things :) Younger riders would LOVE my ebike though, it looks like The Fonz motorcycle. Not that they'll even know who that is... lol)
I have both and I switch up what I ride a lot. If I want a more casual ride I tend to take my bike but if I want to have a bit more fun and want to go around new area's I tend to take my scooter. I love both.
During COVID my wife and I both bought performance scooters to offset the crazy gas prices. We loved it so much that we use them for everything. We only use our car for the rare long distance trip, or the really big shopping trips. Aside from being fun as anything, it saves a ton of money. No second car payment, no gas, even the insurance is cheaper since we qualify for recreational use insurance due to the fact that we almost never use the car. It's great. I see micro-mobility as the future for many reasons.
Awesome @bryant7191, sounds just like my wife and I...the insurance....I'm off today on my scooter to pick up oil and a filter to do the oil change lol...in anticipation of a long drive in a couple of weeks time :)
I have two pickup trucks 1500,3500 ..i do ride a motorcycle as well but riding motorcyclein the citylimits are crazy with the hit and run accidents..So on weekends I enjoy ebike and escooter ...escooter is great for them short errands up to 10 miles...but all day rides down town I enjoy the ebike if battery dies I still can used pedal power
@@TimsElectric The Cruiser s is perfect for long rides . The sine wave controller is nice and smooth . I let everyone try it out as it is a gentle throttle curve and a safe scooter . That being said I am looking at dual motor scooters like Mantis King gt and a few others with same power . Not in a rush so I am enjoying the search . The Cruiser s will be a good take a friend for a scoot without too much power .
Almost 2 years ago I purchased a White Lectric Step Thru (1.0 model) folding ebike with a $600 USD Stimulus payment and $400 USD that I had in a bank account, I take it right into my local Fred Meyer supermarket for grocery shopping and use my ebike just like a shopping cart. I have pannier bags on the side,a trunk bag on top and a front basket for most of my needed groceries. It's a 30 minute 6.4 mile round trip from my owner occupied home. As a 65 year old retired Senior heart patient I need it for doctor recommended daily healthy aerobic exercise for my heart. I have another ebike with a heavily modified Veltop upright Classic 3 model (Windshield and Cover) for riding in rainy weather where I live. The fiberglass rods often broke on the Veltop cover so I replaced them with 2 stainless steel whip antennas cut to the right length. That solved the breaking rods problem of the Veltop attachment. I had to heavily modify the mounting of it so that it would fit on a RadRover ebike,. Then I still got wet so I mounted a custom cut lower lexan panel and then two other cut lexan panels on the sides of the front wheels top tubes with zip ties. Once I did all that I could ride in even heavy rain without wearing any rain clothes and along with mud guards on my wheels my ebike and I didn't get wet. I could use an Escooter for going to my doctors office because it would be impractical to take my ebike there. I am looking at various Escooters now. Currently I take a public transit bus to see my doctor. I got rid of my car 11 years ago because I didn't drive very much and it saved me a lot of monthly expenses. I first got into riding ebikes 11 years ago.
Awesome @m9078jk3, thank you so much for sharing your story :) :) Love hearing that you've found ebikes so helpful that you could cut the expense of car ownership from your budget :) So cool that you're local grocery store allows you to push the ebike through the store and use it as a shopping cart :) Progressive :) Cheers
After riding electric scooter for 2.5 years, I decided to try an electric bike as well, because scooter has not enough electricity to finish shopping in one time. The electric bike battery can be changed if it is not enough electricity to finish shopping in one day and driving bike in the city more comfortable and safer. Need only decide 20" or 26" wheels better for the city like Boston, Massachusetts.
Awesome question @Iloveskz4everr, I think I need to make a video about this...let me think this through but to help you...it depends on what your needs are....why not send me an email and share what you're looking for, how heavy you are, range etc and I'll help with the style and recommendations :)
I hardly used my NIU kqi3 Max, so I ended up selling it. I'm currently the owner of 2 ebikes, down from 4 (Qualisports Dolphin & RadMission SOLD, Fiido L3 & RipRacer currently). I like escooters, but my feet, unfortunately, can't STAND them (pun intended). I've owned a few other electric scooters (IMax S1 Plus before they were popular a few years back, Ninebot ES Max from their campaign, ETwow GT Sport - the ULTIMATE COMMUTER), and I do miss the small size for multimodal commuting. Unfortunately I just can't ride em.
Awesome @thetds101 that you've found that ebikes work for you and your feet. Love the GT Sport for quick runs....is it the suspension or lack there of that makes it uncomfortable for you to ride on a scooter?
@@TimsElectric it was the horrible NYC streets, the lack of adequate suspension, my bad feet due to working on NYC train tracks all day, combined with the flaw I had where the rear fender kept popping off (until I purchased the newer replacement fender to alleviate that concern). I loved my GT Sport. The kqi3 Max,... I hated. The range wasn't what it should be, and the GT Sport climbed the bridge by my house wayyyyy better. The GT Sport truly is the KING of compact, ultra portable commuters.
It would be great if there are some brand new high quality electric bikes selling for less than $100. At under $100 or even under $50 I would call it a steal for sure as long as you get your hands on it.
I disagree if you're bending your knees to prepare for a stop on a scooter I believe you're safer then a bike because you're going 28 rather then 20 mph and when you're sitting when you fall you're going to fall harder then having your legs extended already and just let go and walk off.
Out here if you can remove the battery you can bring the scooter on the bus folded. Can't use the bike rack on the bus if it's electric. Also you can obviously fit it better in a car.
Ebike if you want to look normal, be safe and easy riding. Scooter if you want fun, exciting, and more flexible riding position
Awesome @wingsfan233, you're so right lol :)
I have both, I use scooter for quick rounds to places like work and visiting friends and family, and I get my ebike out when I'm going exploring with friends
Awesome @saint105x3, I love the convenience of having both too :)
nice points on both vehicles. I choose scooters for the fun factor! Going fast while standing is exhilarating!
Awesome @TonesAdventuresHD, did you see your quote in the video? lol :)
@@TimsElectric I rewatched it! didn't catch it the 1st time but thank you Tim!
@@TonesAdventuresHD thank you for watching lol...much appreciate the support :) :) Cheers
Mobility can be another reason that guides your choice. Particularly knee mobility when it comes to peddling. My parter and I recently purchased an e-bike and it was the first time I’d been back on a bike since I injured my knee and had surgery. The top of the upstroke while peddling is painful for me. We’re doing a bit more research into finding the right size bike for me but a scooter may be a better alternative because there is no peddling at all.
that's interesting @dearyvettetn4489, you're the second person to tell me that they're switching to an electric scooter as it's easier on their knees :)
There’s e-bikes without pedals, no need to peddle all the time. Check out the JETSON BOLT
Range - Ebike. Some electric scooters have pretty good range like the Emove Cruiser, but the thing with escooters is what you get is what you get for range. With Ebikes you can extend the range considerably with some pedaling. I have a 52 volt 23 Ah battery on my scooter, and while it gets very good range I still have to think about it. On my ebike I have dual 48 volt 13 Ah batteries for a total of 26 Ah, so for all intents and purposes thats unlimited range as sore butt syndrome will kick in LONG before I get anywhere near the range limit.
Also, many escooters can be equipped with a saddle. I have one on mine and this gives me the option to ride sitting or standing, and I think I do about 50/50. Its really nice on long rides since you can keep switching off from sitting to standing. With ebikes it's just sitting, so you're much more likely to experience sore butt syndrome on longer rides. Also adding a saddle lowers your center of gravity and gives you that 5th point of contact, so it does increase stability by a lot (still not as good as an Ebike though). It does throw any hope of looking cool out the window as soon as you install a saddle on it though :). At 60 I could care less about looking cool, but that might be a factor for younger riders.
Awesome @AKCobra1120 comment :) Sore butt syndrome is a thing for sure....and I agree, I don't think the seat on the scooter is going to be a hit with the younger generations lol :) :) Stay cool 😎
@@TimsElectric Nope, it won't lol! In fact I saw a video last year from a guy that had one installed and took it off because his GF said it wasn't a good look. I guess it's freeing to be an old fart and not care about such things :) Younger riders would LOVE my ebike though, it looks like The Fonz motorcycle. Not that they'll even know who that is... lol)
Happy Days indeed :)
I have both and I switch up what I ride a lot. If I want a more casual ride I tend to take my bike but if I want to have a bit more fun and want to go around new area's I tend to take my scooter. I love both.
Awesome @ace3093, I like both for similar reasons :)
During COVID my wife and I both bought performance scooters to offset the crazy gas prices. We loved it so much that we use them for everything. We only use our car for the rare long distance trip, or the really big shopping trips. Aside from being fun as anything, it saves a ton of money. No second car payment, no gas, even the insurance is cheaper since we qualify for recreational use insurance due to the fact that we almost never use the car. It's great. I see micro-mobility as the future for many reasons.
Awesome @bryant7191, sounds just like my wife and I...the insurance....I'm off today on my scooter to pick up oil and a filter to do the oil change lol...in anticipation of a long drive in a couple of weeks time :)
4:48 😂 That tricked me! Nice camera work
thank you :)
I have two pickup trucks 1500,3500 ..i do ride a motorcycle as well but riding motorcyclein the citylimits are crazy with the hit and run accidents..So on weekends I enjoy ebike and escooter ...escooter is great for them short errands up to 10 miles...but all day rides down town I enjoy the ebike if battery dies I still can used pedal power
Awesome to hear @CBRR10011, I love it :)
Best to have one of each. Both super fun vehicles
it sure is @mushroomgods4707, but if you had to choose?
Both are fun,and get the job done. Be Happy.
Awesome @FatLu-zu2fb
#Question Does anyone have insurance that might cover stolen scooters or ebikes? #Insurance
I haven't seen any... maybe under your home insurance? Could ask :)
Velosurance for bikes or ebikes
Both ! I ride my e bike first for 30-40 km rides and later on I ride my scooter for fun . I commute on both but rainy days I ride e bike .
Awesome @leechavarie4675, may I ask, what did you buy? scooter and ebike :)
@@TimsElectric I have the Emove Cruiser S and FlX Babymaker 2,Propella mini and Radmission . For rainy days I take the Rize Blade 2 .
nice.....how are you loving the Emove? I reviewed the first version and thought it was amazing....I'm betting they're getting better and better :)
@@TimsElectric The Cruiser s is perfect for long rides . The sine wave controller is nice and smooth . I let everyone try it out as it is a gentle throttle curve and a safe scooter . That being said I am looking at dual motor scooters like Mantis King gt and a few others with same power . Not in a rush so I am enjoying the search . The Cruiser s will be a good take a friend for a scoot without too much power .
interesting, it's what I expected...I actually love riding at about 25-32 Kph....nice and smooth :) and with that battery you can go for hours :)
awesome style of content. TY
Glad you enjoy it!
Almost 2 years ago I purchased a White Lectric Step Thru (1.0 model) folding ebike with a $600 USD Stimulus payment and $400 USD that I had in a bank account, I take it right into my local Fred Meyer supermarket for grocery shopping and use my ebike just like a shopping cart. I have pannier bags on the side,a trunk bag on top and a front basket for most of my needed groceries. It's a 30 minute 6.4 mile round trip from my owner occupied home. As a 65 year old retired Senior heart patient I need it for doctor recommended daily healthy aerobic exercise for my heart.
I have another ebike with a heavily modified Veltop upright Classic 3 model (Windshield and Cover) for riding in rainy weather where I live. The fiberglass rods often broke on the Veltop cover so I replaced them with 2 stainless steel whip antennas cut to the right length. That solved the breaking rods problem of the Veltop attachment. I had to heavily modify the mounting of it so that it would fit on a RadRover ebike,. Then I still got wet so I mounted a custom cut lower lexan panel and then two other cut lexan panels on the sides of the front wheels top tubes with zip ties. Once I did all that I could ride in even heavy rain without wearing any rain clothes and along with mud guards on my wheels my ebike and I didn't get wet.
I could use an Escooter for going to my doctors office because it would be impractical to take my ebike there. I am looking at various Escooters now. Currently I take a public transit bus to see my doctor. I got rid of my car 11 years ago because I didn't drive very much and it saved me a lot of monthly expenses. I first got into riding ebikes 11 years ago.
Awesome @m9078jk3, thank you so much for sharing your story :) :)
Love hearing that you've found ebikes so helpful that you could cut the expense of car ownership from your budget :)
So cool that you're local grocery store allows you to push the ebike through the store and use it as a shopping cart :)
Progressive :)
Cheers
Can you do a review on the QIEWA Q-FORCE ELECTRIC SCOOTER?
Awesome idea @yamyam-bh5qx, I'd love to :) if they send one, I'll review it :)
I have both plus a electric skateboard . All of them is fun :)
Awesome @lasse3412, I haven't tried an electric skateboard yet...one day :)
After riding electric scooter for 2.5 years, I decided to try an electric bike as well, because scooter has not enough electricity to finish shopping in one time. The electric bike battery can be changed if it is not enough electricity to finish shopping in one day and driving bike in the city more comfortable and safer. Need only decide 20" or 26" wheels better for the city like Boston, Massachusetts.
Awesome @ap3401, glad you found the right electric vehicle that works for you :)
What e bike do you recommend?
Awesome question @Iloveskz4everr, I think I need to make a video about this...let me think this through but to help you...it depends on what your needs are....why not send me an email and share what you're looking for, how heavy you are, range etc and I'll help with the style and recommendations :)
I hardly used my NIU kqi3 Max, so I ended up selling it. I'm currently the owner of 2 ebikes, down from 4 (Qualisports Dolphin & RadMission SOLD, Fiido L3 & RipRacer currently). I like escooters, but my feet, unfortunately, can't STAND them (pun intended). I've owned a few other electric scooters (IMax S1 Plus before they were popular a few years back, Ninebot ES Max from their campaign, ETwow GT Sport - the ULTIMATE COMMUTER), and I do miss the small size for multimodal commuting. Unfortunately I just can't ride em.
Awesome @thetds101 that you've found that ebikes work for you and your feet. Love the GT Sport for quick runs....is it the suspension or lack there of that makes it uncomfortable for you to ride on a scooter?
@@TimsElectric it was the horrible NYC streets, the lack of adequate suspension, my bad feet due to working on NYC train tracks all day, combined with the flaw I had where the rear fender kept popping off (until I purchased the newer replacement fender to alleviate that concern). I loved my GT Sport. The kqi3 Max,... I hated. The range wasn't what it should be, and the GT Sport climbed the bridge by my house wayyyyy better. The GT Sport truly is the KING of compact, ultra portable commuters.
completely agree on the Uscooter...the power to weight ratio is amazing!!!
It would be great if there are some brand new high quality electric bikes selling for less than $100. At under $100 or even under $50 I would call it a steal for sure as long as you get your hands on it.
Awesome @X1GenKaneShiroX, I don't see it happening anytime soon :)
The dollar store wouldn't even sell it for that much. You so cheap you can't get a 500-1000 dollar ebike?
Try JETSON BOLT $300-$400 range it’s not that much
Just get one of each!
Awesome @iscootct !!!
Bike 💪🏻 cardio and good for the health❤
I agree! You can't beat a good bike ride! Awesome @brypaceno831
I disagree if you're bending your knees to prepare for a stop on a scooter I believe you're safer then a bike because you're going 28 rather then 20 mph and when you're sitting when you fall you're going to fall harder then having your legs extended already and just let go and walk off.
Out here if you can remove the battery you can bring the scooter on the bus folded. Can't use the bike rack on the bus if it's electric. Also you can obviously fit it better in a car.
I see what you mean, it's a different kind of fall for sure.
interesting....where are you?
I decided I need both lol😂
Awesome @burn1gotbeats368, me too :)