Before I got into VR, I always assumed this was how it ought to work for non-VR games. There are plenty of older flat games I'd like to try out using this method. It would be cool to combine this with reshade or UEVR for games that don't work with vorpx or that weren't meant for VR.
@@c6jones720 Which combination? I'm having a tough time trying to figure out how to play non vr games in VR, and all I want to do is have a full screen in VR, and don't really care if the head tracking even works, and would just use a controller. I just want the screen to look like I'm there, and I will completely forget about the controls and head movement... Everywhere I look online, shows vorpx and UEVR, and there's seems to be a serious lack of info out there just explaining how to simply make the Steam VR and or Virtual Desktop able to fill the view... Anyway, I am interested in how you combined things to work with ESO and GTA5, if you would please explain it in some detail?? Thanks
@@slakjawnotsayin5451 if you are just trying to play a 2d game in VR you can use steam or virtual desktop. If you want to make a game that was never meant for VR "sort of" work in VR There are options: You can try UEVR for unreal, UUVR for unity, or Vorpx (which sort of handles older games), or you could try using Reshade, Reshade can let you change the computer display to split screen side-by side, or top-bottom. Then you can use virtual desktop to decode the split screen. UEVR, UUVR and Vorpx, normally support controllers and head tracking, but with Reshade you would use something like Opentrack to map your head to an inverted mouse. those are approaches I've used. That Reshade way works with elder scrolls online.
The problem with Opentrack is that it does not work with games where there is a lot of information all around the Virtual Screen. For example, in Oblivion TES IV there is Health STATS at the bottom left, there is ITEM info at the bottom right, there is QUEST update at the top left corner. So, locking your FOV with VD and tracking the head movement will feel natural, but you will not be able to see anything outside your FOV, even things like changing armor or selling things. But for games without essential info outside your locked-screen FOV it might work really well.
Thank you so much! I was looking for something like this for DCS, as currently I have framerate issues (and personally resolution issues) in VR. Hope this fixes it!
Hey, this might be a long shot. But, it just doesn't work. Everything is fine until 1:45, it opens SteamVR but it just doesn´t track. The little Squid in the Opentrack window is moving perfectly, but my mouse just doesn´t move....
Hi, very interesting. I'm interested in trying it for Fernbus Simulator, OMSI, Star Citizen. Do you have a real 3 D environnement like native VR games (like No Man Sky, MSFS, Xplane) ? I mean a 3d view where you have the feeling of depth, or it's just like a very large 2D screen in VR environment (with head tracking like trackIR) ?
Its 2d screen with right FOV to you head track and the screen stack to the head ( see 3:04 ) so the trackIr giving you the feeling inside , I think its better the flat screen on real screen but not as VR 3d . but this is my opinion i also play all game mention i have star citizen , OMSI , Fernbus , tourist bus simulator and play it only in VR but you need good pc for good FPS ( you can check in my channel ) , playing those game with the same methods , but no 3d :(
@@NiCoTHX I try before a long time and didn't succeeded , maybe now Vorpx have a support . My pc is very old and Vorpx fps is very low in most of the game on my pc so i use Virtual desktop that work more good in my case.
@@thesimrvr Yeah I red since that you had to use DX11 games but apprently it's possible now. Thanks for the answer, hope you can upgrade your material soon. And stream even better comment and make nicer videos. Much love bro.
There is new free injector that convert every UE game to VR call UEVR I tested it with my quest 3 and quest app work great. 'bus simulator 21' ,' tourist bus simulator' and 'the bus' work great :)
1. I remember that I had some issues back then with the Oculus plugin, but I don't remember what they were. 2. My PC was struggling back then, and the game was very laggy. When I dropped the frame rate to 60, it ran smoothly for me in VR. Remember that Unreal Engine game has new VR mod call UEVR that work great.
I haven't tried it, but I play Forza Horizon 5 on an immersive widescreen, and it looks good too :) you can see this video: ua-cam.com/video/HZayOUM6ttY/v-deo.htmlsi=OoshMp8QwwjElt7f
do you run it wirelessly to the Quest? because I have reaaaly bad latency, do you know of any way to run VD Wired? Also my VD Head Lock is reaaaly smooth and not instant like yours, any setting to tweak that?
The open track don't work , but if you use oculus quest 2 virtual desktop it stream the desktop to your headset and its work pretty good. The game don't support TrackIR from my understanding , and the look is mouse+click so i saw some forums about simulate click on mouse but i never test it. Didn't test it yet but maybe Vorpx desktop work too , (i Don't know) hop you find this information helpful :)
Are there any other programs with the headlock feature? (Preferably free..) I’m trying to do this in beamng. I’ve got everything going except the headlock. I’ve tried steam vr alvr and quest link. None of them have the head lock other than this so far. Any help would be nice thanks.
@@thesimrvr I’m considering purchasing virtual desktop, since I can replicate vorpx pretty easily with it. I’m just looking for a free alternative if there is one. Not sure if virtual desktop is worth it considering alvr steam vr and air link exist.
I don't know any other oculus app for pc desktop on the quest2 . You can check the Vorpx/Vorpx desktop or virtual desktop for pc with usb cable or link , but i don't know i didn't test it because my pc is old. This is the best method that work for me.(what i show in the video)
Hi! Hard to find an answer to what looks like a simple question. What do you think will be better to use as a stereo display for PC to play nonVR PC games - quest 2 or rift s? I do not care about any future support, i dont mind cable, i just want good stereo picture in some older and new PC games. Quest 2 is better resolution and refresh, but then it uses compression and there is some more latency probably(specialli in wireless mode)? I dont care about vr games (except vrchat and hl alyx maybe), i only care if it is possible to play pc games that are not ment to display in stereo originally, using VR and some software/mods to get a depth effect. Seems like it is possible for many pc games, but what would be a better headset then, rift s or quest 2?
13th Gen Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-13700KF 3.40 GHz 32.0 GB (31.8 GB usable) RTX2060, Can I ask you. when I open all the software, I always Stuck and stopped on SteamVR on Quest 2, but my computer is work nomal. Thank you
When you start the trackIR Automatic the steamVR open, then you click twice on the menu button of the left hand controller to switch back to desktop view
Before I got into VR, I always assumed this was how it ought to work for non-VR games. There are plenty of older flat games I'd like to try out using this method. It would be cool to combine this with reshade or UEVR for games that don't work with vorpx or that weren't meant for VR.
That combination just about works for elder scrolls online, and GTA5
@@c6jones720 Which combination? I'm having a tough time trying to figure out how to play non vr games in VR, and all I want to do is have a full screen in VR, and don't really care if the head tracking even works, and would just use a controller. I just want the screen to look like I'm there, and I will completely forget about the controls and head movement...
Everywhere I look online, shows vorpx and UEVR, and there's seems to be a serious lack of info out there just explaining how to simply make the Steam VR and or Virtual Desktop able to fill the view...
Anyway, I am interested in how you combined things to work with ESO and GTA5, if you would please explain it in some detail??
Thanks
@@slakjawnotsayin5451 if you are just trying to play a 2d game in VR you can use steam or virtual desktop.
If you want to make a game that was never meant for VR "sort of" work in VR There are options: You can try UEVR for unreal, UUVR for unity, or Vorpx (which sort of handles older games), or you could try using Reshade, Reshade can let you change the computer display to split screen side-by side, or top-bottom. Then you can use virtual desktop to decode the split screen. UEVR, UUVR and Vorpx, normally support controllers and head tracking, but with Reshade you would use something like Opentrack to map your head to an inverted mouse. those are approaches I've used. That Reshade way works with elder scrolls online.
The problem with Opentrack is that it does not work with games where there is a lot of information all around the Virtual Screen. For example, in Oblivion TES IV there is Health STATS at the bottom left, there is ITEM info at the bottom right, there is QUEST update at the top left corner. So, locking your FOV with VD and tracking the head movement will feel natural, but you will not be able to see anything outside your FOV, even things like changing armor or selling things. But for games without essential info outside your locked-screen FOV it might work really well.
Thank you so much! I was looking for something like this for DCS, as currently I have framerate issues (and personally resolution issues) in VR. Hope this fixes it!
👍 You welcome :)
Did this method fix your framerate issue compared to VR?
Hey, this might be a long shot. But, it just doesn't work. Everything is fine until 1:45, it opens SteamVR but it just doesn´t track. The little Squid in the Opentrack window is moving perfectly, but my mouse just doesn´t move....
Hey what game do you play? ,it support trackIR?
@@thesimrvr I get the same thing. I'm trying with OMSI
@@callummoreton749 in Omsi you need to active the trackIR.
It's where you activate the wheel
Hi, very interesting. I'm interested in trying it for Fernbus Simulator, OMSI, Star Citizen. Do you have a real 3 D environnement like native VR games (like No Man Sky, MSFS, Xplane) ? I mean a 3d view where you have the feeling of depth, or it's just like a very large 2D screen in VR environment (with head tracking like trackIR) ?
Its 2d screen with right FOV to you head track and the screen stack to the head ( see 3:04 ) so the trackIr giving you the feeling inside ,
I think its better the flat screen on real screen but not as VR 3d . but this is my opinion
i also play all game mention i have star citizen , OMSI , Fernbus , tourist bus simulator and play it only in VR but you need good pc for good FPS ( you can check in my channel ) , playing those game with the same methods , but no 3d :(
@@thesimrvr Cool. But one question couldn't you couple it with VorpX also?To create the 3d effect?
@@NiCoTHX I try before a long time and didn't succeeded , maybe now Vorpx have a support .
My pc is very old and Vorpx fps is very low in most of the game on my pc so i use Virtual desktop that work more good in my case.
@@thesimrvr Yeah I red since that you had to use DX11 games but apprently it's possible now. Thanks for the answer, hope you can upgrade your material soon. And stream even better comment and make nicer videos.
Much love bro.
@@NiCoTHX Thank you, I hope too :)
Would it be possible to do this on a wired quest 2?
There is new free injector that convert every UE game to VR call UEVR
I tested it with my quest 3 and quest app work great.
'bus simulator 21' ,' tourist bus simulator' and 'the bus' work great :)
Can you share your VD/STEAMVR setting to me if the promblem is here.
I have done nothing special there maybe you can be more specific what setting you need?
Hi, why don't you use Ouclus Rift runtime in Opentrack ? Is there any reason to lock your framerate at 60 ?
1. I remember that I had some issues back then with the Oculus plugin, but I don't remember what they were.
2. My PC was struggling back then, and the game was very laggy. When I dropped the frame rate to 60, it ran smoothly for me in VR.
Remember that Unreal Engine game has new VR mod call UEVR that work great.
@@thesimrvr Thanks. UEVR doesn't have 2D option, my PC isn't enough powerful to play in 3D.
Can you use it with fh5 microsoft store version
I haven't tried it, but I play Forza Horizon 5 on an immersive widescreen, and it looks good too :)
you can see this video: ua-cam.com/video/HZayOUM6ttY/v-deo.htmlsi=OoshMp8QwwjElt7f
the numbers of open track no changes, my quest conected on steam vr and vd but dont have headtrack...
Did you set the output on "freetrack2.0 enhanced" in the opentrack app? and what game do you test?
do you run it wirelessly to the Quest? because I have reaaaly bad latency, do you know of any way to run VD Wired? Also my VD Head Lock is reaaaly smooth and not instant like yours, any setting to tweak that?
Yes , I run it wirelessly from Virtual desktop in my quest 2 headset.
You can change the smooth in the mapping button in the opentrack app
@@thesimrvr yea I did that, could get everything smooth enogh where I didnt get dizzy, need to play around with it.
do you need virtual desktop or can i do it through cable
I know there is virtual desktop on pc but i never test it
Dude can u tell me how to close and bring it to normal??
Hey ,
I don't understand the question what do you want to close? do you want to show me specific time?
But in forza horizon 5 it still doesn’t work do you do more stuff?
The open track don't work , but if you use oculus quest 2 virtual desktop it stream the desktop to your headset and its work pretty good.
The game don't support TrackIR from my understanding , and the look is mouse+click so i saw some forums about simulate click on mouse but i never test it.
Didn't test it yet but maybe Vorpx desktop work too , (i Don't know)
hop you find this information helpful :)
do you think that i could use air link instead
I dont know i never test it maybe vorpx can do it.
no, air link has not head lock option
Are there any other programs with the headlock feature? (Preferably free..) I’m trying to do this in beamng. I’ve got everything going except the headlock. I’ve tried steam vr alvr and quest link. None of them have the head lock other than this so far. Any help would be nice thanks.
I am using pay apps like virual desktop Vorpx ,but i didn't try or know any free one
@@thesimrvr I’m considering purchasing virtual desktop, since I can replicate vorpx pretty easily with it. I’m just looking for a free alternative if there is one. Not sure if virtual desktop is worth it considering alvr steam vr and air link exist.
Its mandatory to use virtual desktop? Can I use just oculus app?
I don't know any other oculus app for pc desktop on the quest2 .
You can check the Vorpx/Vorpx desktop or virtual desktop for pc with usb cable or link ,
but i don't know i didn't test it because my pc is old.
This is the best method that work for me.(what i show in the video)
Hi! Hard to find an answer to what looks like a simple question. What do you think will be better to use as a stereo display for PC to play nonVR PC games - quest 2 or rift s?
I do not care about any future support, i dont mind cable, i just want good stereo picture in some older and new PC games. Quest 2 is better resolution and refresh, but then it uses compression and there is some more latency probably(specialli in wireless mode)?
I dont care about vr games (except vrchat and hl alyx maybe), i only care if it is possible to play pc games that are not ment to display in stereo originally, using VR and some software/mods to get a depth effect. Seems like it is possible for many pc games, but what would be a better headset then, rift s or quest 2?
I don't have a rift , so I don't know the performance . I can't recommend who is the best headset for that.
When I press start it say VRInitError_Init_HmdNotFound: Hmd Not Found (108)
you need the headset to be on when click on start in opentrack
can I play forza horizon 5 with this ?
You can only in immersion screen
Like here --- ua-cam.com/video/HZayOUM6ttY/v-deo.html
completely ruined my oculus app and cant uninstall or open it smh
What part not working? There is new tool call UEVR that really make UE game to be playable on VR
13th Gen Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-13700KF 3.40 GHz 32.0 GB (31.8 GB usable) RTX2060, Can I ask you. when I open all the software, I always Stuck and stopped on SteamVR on Quest 2, but my computer is work nomal. Thank you
When you start the trackIR Automatic the steamVR open, then you click twice on the menu button of the left hand controller to switch back to desktop view
Makes me wana upchuck 🤮 these methods are not good