Giuseppe di Stefano OTELLO rehearsal tape

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  • OTELLO - Rehearsal tape w/ Tito Gobbi (Iago/Stage direction), Marcella Pobbe (Desdemona), Pasadena 1966
    Many describe his Otello as a disaster. I do not agree. Yes, the voice is not for Otello, but it was beautiful and big throughout, and his vocal acting was excellent. The acuti were all there and brilliant. Compared to Cura, Alagna, Botha and any Otello of today, I'd always prefer Di Stefano. He makes a few musical mistakes in Ora e per sempre and Dio ti giocondi.
    00:00 [angry Gobbi shouting] Esultate
    01:06 Abbasso le spade
    01:45 Ora e per sempre addio
    02:55 Talor vedeste... Sì pel ciel
    06:25 Dio ti giocondi... dì che sei casta
    07:00 Datemi ancor... Dio, mi potevi scagliar
    11:59 Niun mi tema

КОМЕНТАРІ • 283

  • @jimmyjames7473
    @jimmyjames7473 6 років тому +42

    Just heard Kaufmann in this role at Covent Garden. I would take GDS every time - because although GDS is not dramatic, he INHABITS this role. JK was completely unacceptable, Everything about his interpretation was "finta" - the sound, the emotion, the character. It all escaped him. I have a request, if I write privately can you send me also the entire recording of this GDS Otello - it is, for all its faults, compelling.

    • @AfroPoli
      @AfroPoli  6 років тому +7

      Sure. Just drop me a PN with an email address and I'll send you a link.
      Interesting about Kaufmann, no big surprise though.

    • @CasaErwin
      @CasaErwin 5 років тому +2

      I dunno. Many say that Del Monaco lacked squillo, too. I don't happen to agree, but it was a much darker voice than diStefano, and he owned this role.

    • @jyscantorialmusic
      @jyscantorialmusic 5 років тому +4

      GDS THIS ROLE IS NOT FOR YOU....his voice was gone way before 1966...he singing so wide open which sound strain and not comfortable at all.
      As for Kaufmann, he is the best we have this days since he have no competition at all... you can’t find any good tenors this days.

    • @CasaErwin
      @CasaErwin 5 років тому +6

      @@jyscantorialmusic - I agree with you. He always sang everything wide open but that's not the only reason Otello was not for his voice. Even Pavarotti only tried it one time and then declared it off limits for his voice. What I could never understand is why they could not realize this during rehearsals and never attempt such a fiasco in a public performance.

    • @sfd8894
      @sfd8894 5 років тому

      however intelectualy demanding role, some "inteligent" singers cant aproach it corectly

  • @JamesVanderpost
    @JamesVanderpost 8 років тому +18

    I love Giuseppe's voice, even in this he sounds thrilling to me, though his voice was to lyrical for this role For and to me this is still great...

    • @photo161
      @photo161 2 роки тому +1

      So much has been written about GDS's early vocal decline. But what I witnessed in his appearances with Callas during her farewell tour, While it is true that some of the voice's lyrical beauty was lost, there were compensations. As can be heard here, his top became MUCH larger, or to be precise, much louder than it had been in his youth. The vocal quality;, extremely ringing and with so much sqillo was objected to by some who seemed to hear it as strained. Forget that, One may not like the sound but GDS was a master vocalist and his production was always superb, well-focused, and well supported. I found it wonderful to hear a voice that so totally filled the theater with vibrant and dramatically compelling sound.

    • @BaroneVitellioScarpia1
      @BaroneVitellioScarpia1 Рік тому +1

      But he sounds much more dramatic than the modern dRaMaTiC tEnOrS.

  • @SilverSingingMethod
    @SilverSingingMethod 5 років тому +20

    And even as a lyric he was bigger than all the names mentioned who sing it today; none of which are actually dramatics. It is a sham.

  • @iankaye1180
    @iankaye1180 5 років тому +11

    IN MANY PLACES THE VOICE SOUNDS BEAUTIFUL, RESONANCE EXCELLENT. HOWEVER HE PUSHED HIS VOICE TO THE LIMIT TO OFTEN. HE PROBABLY WOULD HAVE BEEN MORE SUCCESSFUL USING HIS LYRIC TENOR VOICE AS IS. RATHER THAN TRYING TO BE A DRAMATIC TENOR WHICH HE IS NOT. HIS VOCAL ACTING ABILITY WAS ALWAYS EXCELLENT.
    IAN KAYE

  • @philiprostek
    @philiprostek 6 років тому +3

    i am largely uninitiated in the world of great voices - but because my wife loves di Stefano above all others - i have listened to him a lot. His capacity to express so dramatically - sets him apart - as it does here! Thank you AfroPoli.

  • @giampierone010
    @giampierone010 7 років тому +13

    Di Stefano è un fuoriclasse...quindi anche se vocalmente non ha nelle corde OTELLO,e a tratti è raccapricciante ...a livello interpretativo è un fenomeno...grazie

    • @AfroPoli
      @AfroPoli  7 років тому +2

      Condivido 100%

    • @azoguero
      @azoguero 7 років тому

      azoguero@gmail.com
      Vediamo se puo inviarmi incisione del Otello pip piano Grazie!

    • @othoncardellesr7837
      @othoncardellesr7837 7 років тому

      giampierone010 the utgi

    • @brunaazzurra
      @brunaazzurra 6 років тому +2

      terribile!!!!

  • @MonsieurTango
    @MonsieurTango 6 років тому +19

    Sangue, sangue, SANGUE!!!!!!!

    • @CasaErwin
      @CasaErwin 5 років тому +4

      Sì! Pel ciel!...

    • @demonstain
      @demonstain 4 роки тому +7

      The best 3 "Sangues" I ve ever heard!!!! What an artist!!!! What a singer!!!!

    • @davidebiagini8628
      @davidebiagini8628 3 роки тому +3

      and no "songue", also "abbasso le spade" and not "obbosso lé spodé" :)
      ... well he does re-invent rhythm and notes, still better than Domingo in his prime :)

  • @rodolfoalonso7568
    @rodolfoalonso7568 4 роки тому +3

    Un documento de grande enseñanza de lo que un cantante no debe hacer para mí en lo personal fue traumático desde el EXULTATE hasta la bella caballetta antes de cantar con el baritono la verdad no puede soportar el tremendo esfuerzo de D steffanno me resultó angustiante y a la vez muy vergonzoso pero como un documento histórico es de gran aprecio gracias por compartir

  • @Serhii_Uk
    @Serhii_Uk 4 роки тому +2

    Of course, this record is of great historical and artistic value. First of all, because di Stefano sings. Sometimes it seems that he lacks the power of sound and his voice is already tired and nevertheless he adequately sings before the finale. Separately, the conductor is attracted by his unusual design of the Otello party and di Stefano, who adequately copes with it, creating an unusual artistic image. I can only say one thing: Bravo!
    Thanks so much for posting.

  • @francocapone9094
    @francocapone9094 3 роки тому +2

    Mancano i fiati per un legato che dimostri tutta la rabbia e gelosia di questo personaggio...

  • @antonherberthonegger4399
    @antonherberthonegger4399 4 роки тому +3

    Das perfekt Gesungene kommt nicht an, wenn die Seele nicht mitsingt, bei Pipo war das bis ins hohe Alter der Fall, ein sympathischer, feinfühliger und überzeugender Interpret R.I.P. . . .

  • @gabrielgabriel8096
    @gabrielgabriel8096 Рік тому +2

    15:39 min. onwards... Picasso was totally right when he said that "Good artists copy, Great Artists steal". In this case, Verdi not only copied Wagner...but he probably surpassed.

  • @fabianpersic
    @fabianpersic 8 років тому +4

    Magnífico documento! Gracias por compartirlo! Coincido 100% con Afro Poli!

  • @christopherhosford7805
    @christopherhosford7805 3 роки тому +3

    Gosh, as much as I love Pippo, this is darn tough to listen to. He's is screaming his lungs out, and the top notes turn white. Remember when Pavarotti tried this part and quit in the middle of it? A disaster. I always admire an artist stretching his capabilities to try something new, in particular as the voice ages. But gee, this is ridiculous. But thanks to AfroPoli for posting, giving us a more rounded view of this great artist of the past.

  • @paologaudenzi837
    @paologaudenzi837 25 днів тому

    è impressioante come strapazzi la sua meravigliosa voce che pure lo lascia fare, detto questo solita dizione incredibile, se non avesse scimmiottato Del Monaco (inutile e dannoso) e l'avesse inciso con un grande direttore e con calma in sala d'incisione forse adesso avremmo un documento fantastico, Otello si può anche cantare non è necessario urlare e con la voce di Di Stefano sarebbero state note e canto favolosi.

  • @vitocannillotenor8372
    @vitocannillotenor8372 2 роки тому +2

    Magnifico

  • @ComteAnckarstrom
    @ComteAnckarstrom Рік тому +3

    Di Stefano è stato un genio senza paragoni, unico, ineguagliabile. Lui poteva cantare qualche cosa e renderla sua, alla Di Stefano. Peccato che tanti voci s'abbiano rovinato imitandolo senza capire che lui non era di questo mondo, che come diceva Olivero "Di Stefano è un mondo in se stesso".

  • @margithegenbart1947
    @margithegenbart1947 3 роки тому +1

    Precious!!!

  • @fabriziogarzi9892
    @fabriziogarzi9892 2 роки тому +4

    Un grande Otello. Chi se ne frega del resto. Un Dio mi potevi sbagliare e Niun mi tema senza pari, diecimila sfumature. Ci sono dei momenti che Del Monaco se li sognava e pure il suo pubblico. Perché non postarlo tutto per intero? Pippo ne sarebbe sicuramente felice. Cordiali saluti.

    • @BaroneVitellioScarpia1
      @BaroneVitellioScarpia1 Рік тому

      In realtà preferisco Di Stefano a Vickers come Otello, anche se Vickers ha cantato questo ruolo molto spesso.

  • @radames5855
    @radames5855 Рік тому +1

    Nell'esultate sembra si strozzi!!! Naturalmente, vocalmente parlando, esistono tenori più adatti a quest'opera....ma nonostante le incertezze vocali,riesce ad essere un Otello credibile come interprete...grazie

  • @gerardmignon700
    @gerardmignon700 4 роки тому +2

    Simplement incroyable, avec tout, défauts, fautes musicales, manque de nuances ! On s'en fout, c'est incroyable cet Otello déchiré, blessé. Merveilleux, et quelle voix !!!!! Respect.

  • @401dutchdivas5
    @401dutchdivas5 3 роки тому

    Caro Afro, the 'Si pel ciel' duet has always been missing from the dress rehearsal. So i was surprised to see it here, but... there was no audience at the dress rehearsal and your 'Si pel ciel' has the applause of the prima...

    • @AfroPoli
      @AfroPoli  3 роки тому +1

      Strange. I have that from some old tapes. I'll get them (I have both recordings) from the basement and check again. Thanks for pointing it out!

  • @davidnewton9496
    @davidnewton9496 6 років тому +3

    I've heard/read much about DS singing Otello, but this is the first time hearing the performance. Thanks for posting. I've always loved Di Stefano's singing even toward the end when his voice was beginning to shred. But, hearing him sing this role is painful most of the time. He spread his tones so much above the staff, trying to sound like a dramatic tenor. Domingo was amazingly able to handle this role ( but, he knew when to save his voice). But, no one could sing Otello better than Del Monaco. I saw him sing this in the late 50's (not his late 50's!). Just where Di Stefano forces and fails, Del Monaco was supreme!

  • @sugarbist
    @sugarbist 7 років тому +7

    Otello was not for Di Stefano. He falls behind the tempos and then runs ahead of the tempos. His voice was beautiful but not an Otello voice. He has the dramatic temperament but not the right voice type. Del Monaco,Merli, Zenatello and Martinelli had the more suited voices for the role because of their larger voices, voice color and more dramatic impact. They also had more impetus phrasing with the ability to wind up on the high notes. Di Stefano still interesting though.

    • @sugarbist
      @sugarbist 7 років тому

      My Dad told me that it's truly every tenors dream to sing Otello and most tenors attack the role late in their career, when the voice darkens and perhaps widens a little. Maybe he was right as Pav and GDS had beautiful voice qualities and sang the role, but of course were not suited for the role at all.

    • @sugarbist
      @sugarbist 7 років тому

      Yes, The color of Corelli's voice seems suitable for Otello. I know that Tucker didn't want to sing the role, but I believe his artistry musicality and great spinto voice would have been successful in the role. Plus he was a smart singer, not taking on roles unless he was prepared for them.

    • @sugarbist
      @sugarbist 7 років тому +1

      When MDM was asked about Domingo singing Otello, he said that Domingo did not have the right voice for the role, but then when asked again, Del Monaco replied more diplomatically by stating that Domingo sang an intelligent Otello. PD also said that he didn't care what MDM had said. Yes, Corelli would have been good in Manon L. He stated in a Zucker interview that he regretted not singing Otello.

    • @seppiluthold5014
      @seppiluthold5014 6 років тому

      I agree he didn't have the voice type. You can hear him forcing a bit here. However, remember this is a dress rehearsal. Thus the temp issues etc.

  • @sonywnet
    @sonywnet 8 років тому +2

    Quem viu Di Stefano cantar, como eu vi, fazendo o Duque do Mântua, no Rigoletto de Verdi e em Cavadossi na Tosca jamais esquecerá tais atuações. Aqui já em fim de carreira Di Stefano surpreende no difícil papel de Otelo de Verdi.

  • @margueritelouise5183
    @margueritelouise5183 5 років тому +4

    Now there is another Otello my beloved Giuseppe di Stefano because for me the best Otello of all time is
    Mario del Monaco and of course Tito Gobbi is the best Iago! Incredible!!!

  • @federic017
    @federic017 5 років тому +6

    Ottima interpretazione e temperamento da numero uno!!! detto questo la vocalitò calante,aperta con acuti stiracchiati e a tratti fuori tempo...insomma.ce lo poteva risparmiare questo, Otello...

  • @philpritchard5173
    @philpritchard5173 4 роки тому

    Would love a link to the full version too. Thanks for your very interesting videos. Best.

    • @AfroPoli
      @AfroPoli  4 роки тому

      mediafire.com/file/qu3f498lg7686fz/OTELLO_1966.zip/file

    • @philpritchard5173
      @philpritchard5173 4 роки тому

      @@AfroPoli Thank you! Much appreciated.

  • @pippofan123
    @pippofan123 Рік тому +2

    Acho isso uma loucura! É como correr numa prova de off-road com um carro de Fórmula 1. Se alguém deseja uma receita de como acabar com a voz, siga este caminho. O mais triste disso é que estamos falando em como acabar com a mais linda voz lírica de todos os tempos.

  • @brunolazzaretti7684
    @brunolazzaretti7684 6 років тому +11

    Raccontava Gobbi(in una biografia)che avendo avuto il compito di fare la regia di Otello a Pasadena,avrebbe anche scelto il cast(ruoli principali).Di Stefano gli assicurò(più di un anno prima)che avrebbe studiato il ruolo(Gobbi lo conosceva bene,quindi gli chiese assicurazioni sul fatto che sarebbe arrivato preparato alle prove).Pippo arrivò sapendo il primo atto e parte del secondo.Il terzo un po' vago e...il quarto...per niente!!!.Gobbi si arrabbiò moltissimo e fece anche slittare la prove generale per permettere a Pippo di memorizzare il più possibile.Di Stefano non fece bene per nulla e alla partenza in aeroporto venne scippato dell'intero cachet.Commento di Gobbi:Verdi,sei vendicato!

    • @marcocavagnis1707
      @marcocavagnis1707 5 років тому +2

      Grande aneddoto....un caro saluto Maestro Lazzaretti

    • @biolaloucosmeceuticibioeve4846
      @biolaloucosmeceuticibioeve4846 5 років тому +2

      Mario non l' avrebbe mai fatto, presentarsi impreparato!

    • @biolaloucosmeceuticibioeve4846
      @biolaloucosmeceuticibioeve4846 5 років тому

      Buongiorno Bruno, mi piacerebbe parlare con te di canto, ma qui effettivamente leggono tutti, anche il mio nome che avrei preferito non si sapesse

    • @CasaErwin
      @CasaErwin 5 років тому +1

      @@biolaloucosmeceuticibioeve4846
      Se parli di Del Monaco, sono d'accordo.

    • @biolaloucosmeceuticibioeve4846
      @biolaloucosmeceuticibioeve4846 5 років тому

      @@CasaErwin ciao, non capisco a quale dei miei commenti hai risposto

  • @hentyamenty8120
    @hentyamenty8120 Рік тому +2

    A los que menospreciamos este Otello y el de Pavarotti el destino nos ha castigado con los de Jonas Kaufmann y Gregory Kunde...

  • @gemmadestate3216
    @gemmadestate3216 6 років тому +12

    Bella voce quella di Di Stefano,inconfondibile;ma qui!Non ci sono fiati bastanti,né sufficiente potenza,né acuti da tenore drammatico:"Si per ciel "non si può ascoltare.Anche così si é rovinata la voce più adatta al repertorio lirico

  • @tarzanpony
    @tarzanpony 7 років тому

    Hi Afropoli, could you please tell me where did you get this?
    The thing you wrote on the description it's the same i always try to stand in defence of Pippo and against his critics...
    I prefer, not even this Di Stefano, but the one from the 80's concerts.. than any other tenor in his prime days...

    • @AfroPoli
      @AfroPoli  7 років тому +1

      If you like, drop me your email privately and I can upload the whole performance for you.

    • @azoguero
      @azoguero 7 років тому

      Ma! Sono scozzese, convinto pippiano. Allora aprezzerei copia de quests a incision di Otello, Luis e artist a che io soon riuscito a vedere in scenario tante volte. Grazie, obbligato: azoguero@gmail.com

  • @seppiluthold5014
    @seppiluthold5014 6 років тому +5

    I am a huge fan of Othello. While not suited for his voice I still think he brings an amazing quality to this role that others lack. Also it must be remembered that this is a dress rehearsal. So musically there could be more issues then normal. Di Stefano will always be my favorite tenor, despite the Technique police criticizing him. He was unique and unlike any other. Thank you for this rare recording.I love it.

  • @otello90
    @otello90 Рік тому +1

    Can I also have a download link of this recording?
    if possible, it a great pleasure to me as a fan of GDS
    otello90 of G (email address was filtered by youtube, so I wrote like that, It should be understandable for you)

  • @lagoca
    @lagoca 4 роки тому +2

    I agree this opera wasn´t suit for his voice, but forgive me, just to her him doing his best for this role is better than not having heard him never. I really think that nobody should tell us what can o can´t do, if you decide to do it lets do it with all of our strength and love and nobody can´t say maestro di Stefano not tried to give everything he had.

  • @Masimba
    @Masimba 5 років тому +1

    Did he have perfect pitch? 0:20

  • @Catalogue2
    @Catalogue2 11 днів тому

    - GDS' voice never really "went", he just had to revert to "loud and louder", later in life (like, for instance, 1966, which should have been smack in the middle of his best years for larger stuff). Instead, became a Bb tenor, but same basic color as always. Wide open and clean to a G natural, throaty from Ab up, as his passaggio was abnormally high.
    - MDM's voice had more squillo than ten tenors. Only live recordings begin to capture it. Voices his size and range of color never translated well to studio recordings, as mikes can't translate voices like that if they are too close. Still true of other larger voices.

  • @gioacchinonicotri6917
    @gioacchinonicotri6917 3 роки тому +4

    Che dire? Denuncio la mia ignoranza.
    Pur avendolo conosciuto, ignoravo che si fosse cimentato in Otello.
    L'ho ascoltato più volte e devo confessare che sono rimasto incantato. La sua voce, caratterizzata dal noto smalto e dalla sublime timbrica, non mi hanno fatto desiderare l'impeto di Mario Del Monaco, Otello per eccellenza.

    • @guglielmobettanin4413
      @guglielmobettanin4413 3 роки тому +1

      Bravissimo...mi ha colpito ed mozionato davvero tanto..

    • @francocapone9094
      @francocapone9094 2 роки тому

      Io dopo Del Monaco non riesco ad ascoltare nessuno con quel impeto che lei non desidera....l'ho scritto piu volte, ad ognuno il suo, Di Stefano non aveva la stoffa per questo genere drammatico e non era neanche un unghia di Del Monaco......altro che rivalità.....

    • @gioacchinonicotri6917
      @gioacchinonicotri6917 2 роки тому

      @@francocapone9094 ciao Franco. Decisamente non mi sono spiegato.
      Chi ha sostenuto che Di Stefano potesse competere in Otello con Del Monaco? Non certo io! Ho semplicemente rilevato che non avrei immaginato che Di Stefano si fosse cimentato in tale opera.
      In verità posso confidarti che anch'io sono convinto che, ad oggi, il grande Mario Del Monaco costituisce l'inarrivabile in Otello. Sono due espressioni diverse del bel canto
      Del Monaco eroico, drammatico, a tratti impetuoso; Di Stefano dallo smalto particolarmente carezzevole e con i suoi falsetti riusciva (come ben ha sottolineato Giulietta Simionato) quasi a carezzare.
      Spero di essere stato chiaro.
      Grazie per la possibilità di dialogare.

    • @francocapone9094
      @francocapone9094 2 роки тому

      @@gioacchinonicotri6917 ci mancherebbe! Dico solo che Di Stefano non poteva arrivare a quello che è stato Del Monaco....secondo me!! Probabilmente Di Stefano con il suo canto morbido dolce e il suo timbro particolare aveva il consenso di quel pubblico affezionato allo stile di canto del Grande Gigli, Del Monaco con la sua irruenza teatrale ha stupito tutti all'epoca facendo anche storcere un po il naso.
      Del Monaco comunque non si è mai cimentato in repertori non adatti alla sua vocalita dimostrando serietà e fedeltà al suo personalissimo e inconfondibile stile di canto.

    • @gioacchinonicotri6917
      @gioacchinonicotri6917 2 роки тому

      @@francocapone9094 è bello, oggi, poter parlare di lirica.
      Che ne pensi di LEO NUCCI?
      Per me è un Rigoletto storico.

  • @raulgarat5860
    @raulgarat5860 5 років тому +1

    Cantantes de esta calidad lamentablemente ya no existen !!!

  • @karifrid
    @karifrid 6 років тому +1

    The most beautiful Otello I have heard... Now tenors try to sound "dark and dramatic" ruining the beauty of the voice... Here is perhaps the MOST BEAUTIFUL tenorvoice of last century. Some tenors today sound dark, and have to sing the highest arias LOWER.....

  • @edouard-nicolasdimitriev5799
    @edouard-nicolasdimitriev5799 7 років тому +3

    Di Stefano was always convincing because of the profound
    interpretation(performance) of the psychology of the character, resting
    on the music and the words. Thus, we cannot say that Othello is not for
    him

  • @ComteAnckarstrom
    @ComteAnckarstrom 4 роки тому

    I agree with your opinion, the voice was not suitable, but Di Stefano was an incredible performer. Despite the beauty, his voice was not phonogenic in the sense that the recordings couldn't resemble how powerful it sounded, much bigger live than what the recordings reflect. So maybe that was the reason why he used to sing heavier roles. Anyway better Di Stefano than any of the gang we suffer today...

  • @andrzejzborowski4920
    @andrzejzborowski4920 3 роки тому

    Did someone forced him to sing Otello?? He agreed.

  • @jeffreymiller4814
    @jeffreymiller4814 3 роки тому

    So many comments, yet how can anyone comment on a performance when we’re hearing a DISTORTION of these great singers’ voices?? This post has all excerpts playing sharp. Si pel ciel is in A major, not Bb. Playing back any voice higher than it was recorded will distort it. It’s the Minnie Mouse/Chipminks effect. Not to the same degree, but enough to still be unfair to the artist. My gut instinct is telling me this Otello is NOT a bad performance. I’d love to hear it in correct pitch but you can’t do that on UA-cam. Even when he sang too open on high, Di Stefano’s voice still had depth.

  • @romearomeo
    @romearomeo 6 років тому +4

    Chiaramente non è affatto un ruolo per il grandissimo Pippo...ma è inconfondibile la sua stupenda voce...

  • @giuseppestefano6278
    @giuseppestefano6278 8 років тому +6

    It's an excellent performance. Anyway he killed his beautiful voice by these heavy roles

    • @amantedellopera1681
      @amantedellopera1681 2 роки тому +1

      Far from excellent,i love his lyric voice,but here he is just screaming and shouting,its very poor

  • @armandonazarenocerutti9860
    @armandonazarenocerutti9860 Рік тому

    ES LAMENTABLE QUE A ESTE GRAN ARTISTA SE LO MUESTRE EN UN "ROLL" QUE ES LA ANTÍTESIS DE SU VOZ. OTELLO DE VERDI, REQUIERE UNA VOZ POTENTE, OSCURA CON CENTRO-GRAVE OPULENTOS, NADA MÁS LEJANO QUE LA VOZ DE GIUSEPPE di STAFANO, CUYA VOZ ERA BELLA, LÍRICA, DIÁFANA. ¿PARA QUE MOSTRARLO DE TAN MALA FORMA? LO DIGO CON RESPETO POR EL ARTISTA AL QUE LE RESERVO UN LUGAR PROMINENTE Y BRILLANTE EN LA TESITURA DE TENOR LÍRICO. Armando Cerutti - Barítono

  • @gioacchinodinolfo372
    @gioacchinodinolfo372 5 років тому +2

    Anche se non è nella sua voce Pippo è un grande anche in Otello la sua interpretazione è autentica la sua voce viva e chiara dimostra che non canta O' SOLE MIO MA OTELLO.

    • @biolaloucosmeceuticibioeve4846
      @biolaloucosmeceuticibioeve4846 4 роки тому +3

      Io credevo che cantasse Core'ngrato!

    • @guglielmobettanin4413
      @guglielmobettanin4413 3 роки тому +1

      Dalla sua voce esce la caratterizzazione di un Otello che non è la solita,cioè qlla del Dio,del superuomo che cade,tradito dal ego e dalla sua superbia e dalla quale si ravvede solo in punto di morte...con lui Otello è solo un uomo innamorato,con le sue debolezze..che sbaglia e paga a caro prezzo il suo sbaglio....lo rivste di una umanità tale( anche con le sue debolezze)...che raramente s è visto in qst opera.

    • @eugeniogentili1048
      @eugeniogentili1048 2 роки тому +2

      E' in ruoli drammatici come l'Otello che Di Stefano ha compromesso la sua bella voce

  • @BaroneVitellioScarpia1
    @BaroneVitellioScarpia1 Рік тому +4

    Di Stefano suonava molto più drammatico di qualsiasi "tenore drammatico" al giorno d'oggi. Fantastico anche lo Iago di Gobbi.

  • @ransomcoates546
    @ransomcoates546 5 років тому

    What year is this? What is strange is that any real opera lover knows this music very well and he apparently didn't know it at all he makes so many musical and linguistic mistakes.

  • @bl59957
    @bl59957 5 років тому

    Ringrazio Rita Dessì per le belle parole.Grazie di cuore.

    • @biolaloucosmeceuticibioeve4846
      @biolaloucosmeceuticibioeve4846 5 років тому

      Merito tuo caro Bruno, ma ci fai sentire altro di te?

    • @bl59957
      @bl59957 5 років тому

      Cara Rita Dessì,vorrei scriverti privatamente,ma ho cancellato per errore la mail nella quale mi avevi spedito il file(ma ho ascoltato tutto).Grazie

    • @biolaloucosmeceuticibioeve4846
      @biolaloucosmeceuticibioeve4846 5 років тому

      @@bl59957 ora te la rimando, grazie Bruno

    • @fabriziomariagarzi5458
      @fabriziomariagarzi5458 3 роки тому

      Brunello Lazzaretti, per caso, tu che hai tutto, possiedi o sai chi la possiede, la Traviata Moffo, Ciannella cantata a Fermo nel 1976? Un caro saluto e Buon Anno (ancora s'e' a tempo)

    • @bl59957
      @bl59957 3 роки тому

      @@fabriziomariagarzi5458 Purtroppo non l'ho,Fabrizio.Gli auguri sono sempre graditi e contraccambio ben volentieri.

  • @cherubello9340
    @cherubello9340 5 років тому +9

    In quest'arte esistono anche delle regole e il grande Pippo notoriamente non le amava. Otello però non canta Core 'ngato. Ignorare volontariamente e qualche volta i criteri basilari, è molto intrigante. Non rispettarli quasi mai, magari per proprie carenze, quando l'opera che si esegue è un capolavoro, è inopportuno, se non di cattivo gusto. Naturalmente il discorso vale per tutti, compresi i più celebrati ritenuti di repertorio....Se il Grandissimo Caruso non cantò mai Otello, pur registrando qualche brano molto interessante, molti altri avrebbero dovuto riflettere, studiare pedissequamente Verdi e infine ascoltare attentamente Merli e Pertile. Poi è chiaro che qualcuno ci deve provare, altrimenti l'opera resta non eseguita: sono i giorni nostri.

    • @biolaloucosmeceuticibioeve4846
      @biolaloucosmeceuticibioeve4846 4 роки тому +1

      Cherubello leggo con piacere che sei del mio parere Merli era un grandissimo interprete, voce scura e grande, timbro affascinante, acuti bellissimi e vibranti.

    • @francocapone9094
      @francocapone9094 3 роки тому +1

      Esatto! L'Otello non dovrebbe mai più essere rappresentato.....fare come i grandi calciatori a fine carriera...la società di appartenenza decide di non far più scendere in campo quel numero di maglia........quindi.....dopo le innumerevoli interpretazioni di Del Monaco quest'opera può anche essere tolta dal panorama lirico mondiale....tanto....nessuno più farà meglio del più grande Otello della storia.

  • @antben8992
    @antben8992 2 роки тому +1

    Enfatico oltre misura: troppi effetti senza causa musicale e, come spesso gli accadeva, molta superficialità scambiata per drammaticità.

  • @rakoskorpion4979
    @rakoskorpion4979 4 роки тому +1

    It hurts to listen

  • @fabriziomariagarzi5534
    @fabriziomariagarzi5534 7 років тому +2

    Per la cronaca questa era una ante prova generale con un po di pubblico.Pippo canto' solamente la prima recita.

    • @bl59957
      @bl59957 6 років тому +3

      Canto?Lo chiama CANTARE???????

    • @fabriziomariagarzi5534
      @fabriziomariagarzi5534 5 років тому

      E' Otello. mi accontento.

    • @biolaloucosmeceuticibioeve4846
      @biolaloucosmeceuticibioeve4846 5 років тому

      @@fabriziomariagarzi5534 quindi anche tu canti?

    • @fabriziomariagarzi5534
      @fabriziomariagarzi5534 5 років тому

      BIOLALOU, no, non ci penso neanche, ma ma vivo in mezzo ai cantanti. Avrei potuto azzardare ma avrei dovuto avere il colore di voce di Di Stefano...impossibile credo, e poi troppo stress, voce su voce giu', appoggia, no, in maschera...e' gia' tanto sedersi in platea e restare insoddisfatti quasi sempre...per durare bisogna resistere...in casa, in poltrona invece metti il disco dell'Armida e della Lucia della Callas….va bene lo stesso..anzi, va meglio.

    • @biolaloucosmeceuticibioeve4846
      @biolaloucosmeceuticibioeve4846 5 років тому

      @@fabriziomariagarzi5534 hai ragione, ma cantare in teatro è meraviglioso, sentire la tua propria voce e studiare per capire il senso del personaggio, lo studio è gioia, ma ci vogliono tanti soldi e dedicarsi completamente alla perfezione di un qualcosa che nessuno può insegnarti. Io ho molte registrazioni mie, ma sono ignorante in materia di PC e non so entrare in un canale UA-cam...qualcuno ha detto che la mia voce somiglia a quella della Cossotto, è stato un bel complimento, ma lei è vissuta in un 'epoca in cui c'era posto per cantare. Oggi non si capisce più nulla, lo sai anche tu. Non c'è tempo per le prove, non si studia più in teatro e non pagano!

  • @arthurwhite8795
    @arthurwhite8795 5 років тому +2

    I cannot think of a tenor more unsuited to sing Othello than De Stefano. It is like having Lily Pons try to do Brunhilde.

  • @rafaelplazapagan9725
    @rafaelplazapagan9725 3 роки тому

    A gallant effort, but he just did not have the voice, the power.

  • @matejknezevic6989
    @matejknezevic6989 4 роки тому

    Pipo i God amound tenors.
    This is not his prime.
    His voice is brilliant in every role.
    Becouse God kissed his vocal cords.
    So musical and so passionate.
    So clear diction.
    He is closest to perfection.

  • @samuelfoo010228
    @samuelfoo010228 6 років тому +1

    He actually sounds pretty decent here: could someone explain what exactly transpired to make the performance so infamously 'disastrous'?

    • @williamreynolds6332
      @williamreynolds6332 5 років тому +1

      According to Tito Gobbi's autobiography, Di Stefano's big problem was that he failed to learn the role properly in time for the performance, leading to all kinds of memory lapses and other embarrassments. (Apparently the conductor was no help; Gobbi, who doubled as stage director, had to give the conductor a recording of the opera to show him how the tempos should go.) Interestingly enough, Gobbi praised Di Stefano's Act 4 as "strangely good" because it played to his lyric strengths.

  • @jeffreymiller4814
    @jeffreymiller4814 Рік тому

    Ok, I can overlook his serious vocal decline. What I can’t overlook is his DISASTROUS lack of musicality. I’ve never heard anyone disrespect the score like this. And don’t say, “it’s his interpretation.” It is total self-indulgence. His studio recording of the Act 1 love duet with Carteri is quite lovely. He should have quit while he was ahead.

  • @xxsaruman82xx87
    @xxsaruman82xx87 4 роки тому

    Just interested - who was the conductor?

  • @aetion
    @aetion 7 років тому +18

    That's the way to destroy one of the most beautiful lyric tenor voices ever!

    • @CasaErwin
      @CasaErwin 5 років тому +2

      A mission he had already accomplished before this recording was ever made.

    • @Nangis123
      @Nangis123 4 роки тому +4

      ​@Andrei Biro If you think this is perfect I shudder to think about your musical education ,if you have one. This isn't at at all good. Spread notes ,aproxximate intonation , chopped up phrasing,forces the hell out of his voice, can't keep up with the orchestra. Nemorino in Cyprus. The trouble with you fans is that you listen to only one singer and believe him to be god or at least a demi-god , but this one here isn't even a good singer.

    • @Nangis123
      @Nangis123 4 роки тому +3

      Barone , if you want to believe this is great , I'm not going to argue with you,particularly when you didn't bother to say what's "great" for you ,this is so vague. For all I know ,you might find the sound of cat trodded on her tail great too ,there's no accounting for tastes. Perhaps police work is a more congenial field for your powers of perceptions, Barone Scarpia ? ;) It's always the same with fans ,their vocabulary consists only of "great" and "best" and other superlatives . People who understand the art form reserve superlatives for singers who deserve superlatives , this is the whole point of having superlatives in a language,not everyone and everything deserves them .But fans also lack basic understanding of language in addition of lacking musical education .

    • @xxsaruman82xx87
      @xxsaruman82xx87 3 роки тому

      @@Nangis123 But, please, explain as to why this is bad?

    • @Nangis123
      @Nangis123 3 роки тому +1

      @@xxsaruman82xx87 But ,please ,explain why you don't ask the Barone why "Di Stefano is always great" ? Lol .I can smell tio and barone parrots from half a mile ,bye stalker .Learn to disguise youself better ,if you can ,and learn to read comments before asking questions .Unlike the Barone and the other one ,I actually said why this rendition is lacking in my first comment .

  • @tanukisan1000
    @tanukisan1000 6 років тому

    Thank you, what an interesting recording. Wherever did you obtain this rarity?

    • @AfroPoli
      @AfroPoli  6 років тому

      Brian Lloyd Long time ago in a trade. I have a digitised version online, I can give you a download link if you are interested.

    • @brianlloyd3984
      @brianlloyd3984 6 років тому

      AfroPoli Thank you. My e-mail is blloyd4545@yahoo.com.

    • @suryajayakumar6821
      @suryajayakumar6821 5 років тому

      @@AfroPoli Could you give me the download link? My e-mail is sjayakumar@gm.slc.edu.

  • @alessandrodelmagno9125
    @alessandrodelmagno9125 3 роки тому +1

    Poveri fans di di Stefano ! Anche questo orrore doveva propinarvi il vostro amato.

  • @gemmadestate3216
    @gemmadestate3216 6 років тому +5

    Se piace l'Otello di Di Stefano allora deve piacere anche quello di Domingo o Cura...no non ci siamo!

  • @DimitrisLian
    @DimitrisLian 5 років тому +2

    The "Dio, mi potevi scagliar" is particularly sublime! Immense Di Stefano!

  • @angeloraballo3363
    @angeloraballo3363 6 років тому +1

    Voce superba!

  • @alvarodecampostabacaria4223
    @alvarodecampostabacaria4223 4 роки тому

    Ok probably not his repertoire, probably his voice is not very suitable for this etc etc. But I cannot bring myself to not like it. Di Stefano has the voice of an angel.

    • @Nangis123
      @Nangis123 4 роки тому +1

      Not "probably" but "certainly". By the time he attempted this his angel days were long past him ,the voice is in shambles. And why would you think an angel voice is the right voice for Otello? I'm sure angels weren't on Verdi's mind when he wrote Otello ,lol

  • @amantedellopera1681
    @amantedellopera1681 2 роки тому

    Id take this all day over yawn yawn kaufman,that said this is way beyond di stefano,del monaco,vinay,own this role,di stefano was a very beautiful lyric,otello is not for him

  • @segu82
    @segu82 7 років тому +2

    FAVOLOSO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @operabilia
    @operabilia 4 роки тому

    Neither Di Stefano nor Pobbe was fit to sing this.

  • @antoniobrivio8251
    @antoniobrivio8251 5 років тому +1

    Pepino pensava che l'otello aveva una acca 'bordello'. Il duetto dovrebbero bruciarlo. Non tutti possono fare una gioconda. O sei e fai diversamente fai altro. Non sporcare il curriculum.

  • @massimoturrini9146
    @massimoturrini9146 5 років тому +1

    Ahahahahahahaha..... ma via.... ma VIA!..... è drammatico si..... ma per chi l' ascolta....... Non ci siamo proprio......

  • @thomasdahlen2158
    @thomasdahlen2158 5 років тому

    The role Otello is to heavy for the Wounderful di Stefano but he is absolutely better than Domingo and Kaufmann and others.Great Otello was Vickers and del Monaco and i would add Valdimir Atlantov.I dont like the voice of Tito Gobbi,a dry voice without a timbre.

    • @alvarodecampostabacaria4223
      @alvarodecampostabacaria4223 4 роки тому +1

      Why did you put Kaufmann in the same sentence with some opera gods.. Kaufmann is a singing veil!!

    • @amantedellopera1681
      @amantedellopera1681 4 роки тому

      Maybe you should listen to ramon vinay and zenatello but del monaco is my favourite

    • @amantedellopera1681
      @amantedellopera1681 2 роки тому

      You do realise gobi was baritone singing role of iago not otello,and he was a very good iago

  • @manolamattiola2733
    @manolamattiola2733 6 років тому

    Non ci siamo. No no gli manca il brando

  • @TheAttiliotauro
    @TheAttiliotauro 2 роки тому

    Sicuramente non è opera adatta alle qualità di Di Stefano.Tenore lirico ma non proprio drammatico.Gobbi invece grandioso.anche la incisione appare confusa e raffazzonata.

  • @matteomarazzi2680
    @matteomarazzi2680 4 роки тому +2

    La cosa che mi scandalizza davvero è il totale caos ritmico. Ma come? Ti butti in un simile ruolo per cui non hai nè la voce, né la tecnica, né la personalità... e nemmeno lo studi?

    • @biolaloucosmeceuticibioeve4846
      @biolaloucosmeceuticibioeve4846 4 роки тому +1

      Matteo, credo che ormai fosse talmente famoso da non impaurirsi di niente...come ho già detto Mario non si è mai presentato se non in forma, era preciso e non si risparmiava per il suo pubblico. Io lo amo e non ho sentito mai una voce così tagliente, e allo stesso tempo scura come un baritono...un talento irraggiungibile.
      Devo anche parlare di un altro tenore italiano (naturalmente) che aveva un grande talento: Francesco Merli , splendido anche lui

  • @user-ss6vw6ky3p
    @user-ss6vw6ky3p 5 років тому

    영석아 너도 오셀로 했지? 남두형에게 졸라 발렸지!

  • @fabriziomariagarzi5534
    @fabriziomariagarzi5534 7 років тому +2

    Superiore a chiunque.Un Otello con un'anima non s'era mai ascoltato,al confronto Del Monaco,Domingo e consimili,sono pezzi di pietra.

    • @bl59957
      @bl59957 6 років тому +3

      Lei è PAZZO!!!!!!!

    • @Tkimba2
      @Tkimba2 5 років тому

      @@bl59957 per niente

    • @fabriziomariagarzi5534
      @fabriziomariagarzi5534 5 років тому +2

      Tomba 2, mi hai vendicato! Pippo e' stupendo, sempre.

    • @bl59957
      @bl59957 5 років тому +2

      Vabbè,visto che non c'è modo di discutere con i fan in modo costruttivo (così la penso io,ovviamente),la chiudo qui Ognuno la pensi come crede anche negando cose oggettive.Viva Pippo comunque.

    • @Tkimba2
      @Tkimba2 5 років тому +2

      @@bl59957 "non c'è modo di discutere con i fan in modo costruttivo" cit. Brunello lazzaretti.
      "lei è pazzo" cit. Costruttiva di Bruno lazzaretti

  • @ronaldgoff7499
    @ronaldgoff7499 3 роки тому

    not bad he is forcing voice hes not dramatic tenor he was the best too bad he ruined it

  • @Huaimek861
    @Huaimek861 6 років тому

    It was a shame that Giuseppe di Stefano took on such a role as Otello , it must have contributed to the deterioration of his voice . He sounds vocally magnificent here if not sufficiently robust . It is said that he had little training and didn't cover to protect his voice in the upper range . I personally think he was right not to do so , his voice seemed to have an open end to high notes , it was worth the risk to fully enjoy such a beautiful voice while it lasted .

    • @calaf1001
      @calaf1001 5 років тому

      di stef is my favourite tenor if i had to choose but interestingly i heard him on you tube singing a piece where he did cover on the top notes but all of the brightness was absent it didnt sound bad but wasnt interesting either i wish i could remember the piece but its there somewhere

  • @gabrieleruffini4884
    @gabrieleruffini4884 5 років тому

    GDS qui era a fine carriera con la voce ormai logorata particolarmente nel registro acuto. Pare tra l'altro fosse arrivato alle prove impreparato. Certo il timbro nei centri in alcuni momenti è ancora bello e suggestivo e alcune intenzioni interpretative sono interessanti ma per Otello ci vuole altro. L'idea di un Otello dalla voce chiara e luminosa (come tra l'altro fu quella di Tamagno primo interprete ) penso darebbe al personaggio caratteristiche di grande interesse delineando un personaggio nobile ed eroico quale ad esempio fu l'Otello di Giacomo Lauri Volpi, che però disponeva di autentiche folgori nel registro acuto.

    • @anonymousdude1010
      @anonymousdude1010 5 років тому +1

      Completamente d'accordo. Si era arrivati che con Ramon Vinay (grandissimo Otello) lo stesso interprete passava da Otello a Jago a parti da vero e proprio basso (verso la fine della carriera). La lucentezza e la comunicativa del registro medio acuto richiesta dalla parte rende Otello un ruolo per voci diverse da un tipico heldentenor wagneriano.
      Lauri Volpi difettava di un corpo adeguato nel registro grave che in alcuni punti della parte di Otello e' assolutamente necessario. L'importanza dell'Otello di Lauri Volpi credo sia piu' nel completamento dell'impresa di una vita: riportare in essere il "tenore assoluto", da Almaviva a Otello, passando attraverso Elvino a Turiddu, Manrico, Arnold.

    • @Nangis123
      @Nangis123 4 роки тому +1

      @@anonymousdude1010 I don't agree with you ,LV had by the time he was 50 a sufficiently developed low register . Otello goes down to C3 only once ,the rest is typical staff and above the staff tessitura . Calaf goes down to D3 .By the time he had tackled Otello LV had sung Calaf for 16 years and continued to sing it for another 16 years . More important , Tamagno was Verdi's choice for Otello and Tamagno used to sing high tessitura roles like Raoul, Eleazar ,Robert le Diable,Arnoldo ,Radames ,Mannrico ,all these roles require lots of A4-C5 notes and a few go above C5 .Otello too goes up to C5.

    • @anonymousdude1010
      @anonymousdude1010 4 роки тому

      @musicals fan1
      First of all let's agree that we are discussing on the brightness of the largest stars of the sky, and that we are not concerned with the candle lights we see on stage lately.
      Having said that, I do agree that the vocality of Otello is a very peculiar one, which did not exist until Verdi composed the opera. It is often referred to as an Italian version of the wagnerian heldentenor, but that is at best a paltry approximation.
      You should never measure the needed tessitura by mentioning the extremes. Alvaro of Forza del Destino has a b flat under the staff (in the last duet with the barytone) but that note is not a significant indication of the kind of voice is needed for Alvaro.
      It is more meaningful for example to stress out the fact that Radames is a tenor part with 42 written high b flat, so I wouldn't expect a, say, Ramon Vinay to be at ease with that. Conversely, the C5 in Otello, which is a strisciato with the full blast of the orchestra under it, should not be a problem for the same Vinay.
      Otello, Samson, also Pollione are all parts that can be and should be sung by tenors with a bit of "barytonal" flavour in their voices.
      Another point you make is the choice of Verdi for Otello. Tamagno was surely known for the flabbergasting C5's he would project in all the major opera houses.
      Here you are correct, but allow me a citation from opera.stanford.edu/performers/Tamagno.html:
      ... When planning the production of Otello, Verdi objected strongly to Tamagno: the critics claimed that he had a poor "legato" and tended to go off pitch when singing "mezzavoce". Verdi also judged his musical background to be insufficient and his acting as poor. (Verdi did not modify his opinion, despite Tamagno's success: several years later he wrote that he was impressive singing "Esultate" and "Addio sante memorie", but that the lesser known tenor Giovanni Battista De Negri would have been a far better overall choice.)...
      Acting-wise and musically speaking Lauri Volpi was ideal for Otello, no doubt, but I stand by my opinion that he never had the needed prowess of the lower register to be a all round convincing Moro. Then again Lauri Volpi is a vocal phenomenon, so we want to hear everything possible from him.

    • @Nangis123
      @Nangis123 4 роки тому +1

      @@anonymousdude1010 I never concern myself with candle lights ,life is too short ;)
      I agree tessitura extremes aren't a good indicator ,I was a bit sloppy in my comment and did mention the staff tessitura only in passing .But I can't but observe you too choose as example one extreme (the highest) of Radames' tessitura ;) I too counted those Bb's (and B's) once just for fun and I believe I came up with a somewhat different result but it doesn't matter ,I agree Radames' tessitura is on the higher side . Back to Otello ,let me stress the Otello tessitura is mostly pure staff tessitura much like Pollione's and almost like Manrico's ,with the occasional excursion a tiny little bit below the staff and a bit more above the staff , and lots of scales up and down all over the staff ,and a few of Verdi's most beloved dirty tricks like the octave jump or drop . I do not agree Otello is the Italian version of the wagnerian tenor though ,but then yourself wouldn't call it quite by that name either.
      Verdi had indeed had reservations during the negotiations phase , and later on outright objections regarding Tamagno ,but in the end he choose him and did what he could to "improve" him ,including alloting him a personal repetiteur and drilling him in physical acting ,but we are not discussing here Tamagno's physical acting ,nor his inability to read music or sing mezza voce (which annoyed Verdi more than anything , he called it "ugly" lol) , *we are discussing just his natural tessitura and his voice type* .For all his other faults , *Verdi had never objected to Tamagno's natural tessitura ,nor to his voice type , which was a clarion voice with no baritonal hint* ,who sang regularly four Nourrit roles and Manrico into bargain . Btw Verdi had been very tempted to let Raffaele Mirate (who had premiered Duke in Rigoletto) to premier Trovatore too .In the end he went with Baucarde ,but Mirate would later on sing Manrico ,and Baucarde would sing Duke ,so I would say all these 6 roles loosely belong together ,and are more related to Otello than any Wagnerian role .
      Right after the premiere Verdi had been happy enough with Tamagno's results ,even enthusiastic about certain aspects of Tamagno's portrayal like his delivery of "Miseria mia" , he said "we will never again hear the like" . But once out of Verdi's influence Tamagno slowly reverted to type ,which was lack of nuance ,and this had prompted Verdi's late regrets .Henderson too ,who had commended Tamagno in 1890 for his "vivid and powerful interpretation" and his "uncommon intelligence and high ideals" ,had mentioned in 1894 a "loss in dignity" .Interesting enough ,in his "Niun mi tema" recording Tamagno proves himself quite capable of using nuance ,but precisely his "Niun mi tema" had prompted Verdi's mezza voce objections during rehearsals... Whatever. As I said ,it's not about his mezza voce and his interpretation,it's about his tessitura and voice type .
      I would say we are mostly on the same wavelength with the exception of the "baritonal hint" and possibly the "wagnerian heldentenor" ,and it looks like you won't budge on that point and I won't budge either ,so let's agree to disagree and call it a day ;)

  • @azoguero
    @azoguero 7 років тому +1

    Di Stefano, Pippo, artista magnifico, indementicabile perfino in questo Otello che corona la sua carriera

  • @segu82
    @segu82 7 років тому +5

    Questo è Otello. Punto.

    • @ApaOFF
      @ApaOFF 6 років тому +2

      In realtà Del Monco è il vero Otello... ma Di Stefano è meraviglioso.

    • @bl59957
      @bl59957 6 років тому +2

      Contento lei.....

    • @giampierone010
      @giampierone010 5 років тому +2

      e virgola

    • @biolaloucosmeceuticibioeve4846
      @biolaloucosmeceuticibioeve4846 5 років тому

      Ma no dai! Qui è Pippo che sta cantando con tutte le forze! Sii obiettivo

  • @fabianpersic
    @fabianpersic 8 років тому +1

    Convengamos, además y para ser justos, que Gobbi está bastante mal de voz; con la "scuola del mugito" y los vicios veristas en todo su esplendor!...

  • @carlo4863
    @carlo4863 6 років тому +1

    Turiddo al mecato di francofonte

  • @brunolazzaretti7684
    @brunolazzaretti7684 6 років тому +2

    Terribile......

  • @francescotranquilli
    @francescotranquilli 5 років тому

    Ma veramente pensate di fare del bene alla memoria di Di Stefano pubblicando questi estratti?

    • @giudiciadanna4550
      @giudiciadanna4550 4 роки тому +1

      francesco tranquilli, Di Stefano "NON TEME NESSUNO".

    • @francescotranquilli
      @francescotranquilli 4 роки тому

      @@giudiciadanna4550 Eh sfido, è morto. Ma infangare la sua memoria non è bello per chi se ne dichiara ammiratore. Comunque il ridicolo sarebbe sempre bene temerlo, un po'.

  • @fabriziomariagarzi5534
    @fabriziomariagarzi5534 7 років тому +3

    Del Monaco deve ringraziare Pippo che non lo ha cantato prima...gia' cosi se lo mette sotto i tacchi.

    • @giampierone010
      @giampierone010 6 років тому +4

      AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH...il suo commento è comico .....

    • @bl59957
      @bl59957 6 років тому +1

      Lei è PAZZO!!!!!!

    • @fabriziomariagarzi5534
      @fabriziomariagarzi5534 5 років тому

      Pazzo? Pippo e' strabiliante anche con stecche, calature, mezzi fiati, fiati per niente...e' elettrizzante, e' OTELLO. Se la Callas avesse cantato cosi tutto l'altro repertorio che non e' riuscita a cantare....poi ne riparliamo. Comunque in giro esiste una registrazione di questa generale assai lunga con ripetizioni infinite. Ce l'avevo, ma prestata....chi l'avesse la metta in rete.

    • @biolaloucosmeceuticibioeve4846
      @biolaloucosmeceuticibioeve4846 5 років тому +2

      @@fabriziomariagarzi5534 sono confronti soggettivi. Mario e Giuseppe erano grandi amici, ma non si può confrontare la drammaticità di Mario con la voce più morbida di Pippo. Dai, cerchi di essere obiettivo...nessuno ha cantato Otello con la perfezione di Mario

    • @fabriziomariagarzi5534
      @fabriziomariagarzi5534 5 років тому +2

      BIOLAU COSMETICI, che fossero grandi amici lo sappiamo, lo so, non c'entra, ma la drammaticita' del Mario e' sempre a senso unico, senza sfumature, un invasato totale e un tantino sanguinario...Il Giuseppe, disastrato assai in questa produzione, non si puo' certo negare, ha un fraseggio stupendo e un impeto che serve a Otello ineguagliabile. il "Dio mi potevi scagliare" vale tutta la produzione e il Mario non lo canta cosi. Ognuno a suo modo erano perfetti ma la tecnica non e' tutto e se Giuseppe non l'avesse avuta non avrebbe affrontato, dopo, piu' nulla. Se Giuseppe l'avesse affrontato l'Otello prima, si parlerebbe di lui e non del Mario. Detto cio' oggi ci mancano, sia l'uno che l'altro e certamente non possiamo neppure sperare che ci sia nel futuro prossimo qualche cosa di vagamente simile. Per quanto mi riguarda i confronti nell'Arte sone sempre e solo soggettivi, non mi sono mai adeguato al "verbo" corrente solo perché alcuni con la voce piu' grossa hanno sancito una verita' assoluta (vedi Mozart o Beethoven si dicono i piu' grandi…chi lo dice?) La Lirica non e' una scienza esatta.

  • @salvoferraro6976
    @salvoferraro6976 26 днів тому

    Adoro Di Stefano,il mio tenore preferito,ma qui è un disastro vocalmente e musicalmente,il si pel ciel è inascoltabile.