I just bought a Turbo R 4 last weekend. My friend has a Pro R. The Pro R is just slightly quicker, but my Turbo R 4 is more than fast enough for anything I'll be doing. So long to the old days of a VW 1600 in a dune buggies and think I was serious off reading. Polaris has built some incredible machines.
Agreed I think you'd see a good bit of difference without the windshield on the pro r. I think that is also why it's pulling up so hard. Don't get me wrong dynamix definitely would help too.
Great video. I think the turbo is just as fast from everything I’ve seen. Even aftermarket assassins had a race between the 2 and each was tuned and they are about even. Both 2 seaters they had. I love my turbo r dynamics 2 seater.
I'd be curious to see a dyno test on both as part of the comparison. I doubt there's a difference, but are the gear ratios the same? I only bring it up because the engines are so different. Fun video to watch!
Mind blown. Thought the R would smoke the Turbo. Even more crazy is how close a big heavy 4 seat is, to a 2 seat, and it’s only a few pounds. Awesome comparison!
Very interesting results! I ordered the Turbo R premium 2 seater just because I want to wait a year on the Pro R. I'm skeptical on first year model changes but I see great things coming in the future for the Pro R! Cool video guys!
@S Keim I never got it! Like the x3 too much. 2023 X3 XRC RR is at my local dealer waiting for me to pay and pick up. I do miss some things about the polaris tho...
@S Keim the room in the interior! Can am has no storage room for tools, straps, ect. And the view from the driver seat. Kinda funny, I saw a new 64 inch RC RR at the dealer, thought I want that. Then I see my Turbo R premium with ride command at my local polaris dealer....I bought it! Picking up this Friday!! So happy 😊 back to polaris!!
idk what elevation you guys were at but that would give the Turbo R and advantage for sure. also a lot of people in the comments dont understand, what makes the Pro R motor so gnarly is in real world driving the no lag coming out of corners is what makes the Pro R so much faster. strait line is totally irrelevant. then you factor in the extra length of the Pro R over whoops or chop and its even better and faster.
Before picking the Pro consider the altitude where you’ll be running it. If you’re routinely 4000’ and above I figure the Turbo’s consistent 181HP will keep up with, and be lighter than, the naturally aspirated Pro. And if crossing mountains in CO/ID/MT is your thing the Turbo will likely flat-out slay the Pro on a trail like Big Bear at 12000’.
I think it would be interesting to compare HP and torque numbers for both machines. Turbo motors typically get more torque. Could bring a little more clarity to the results you guys came up with. Also I'm not sure what the altitude is where your test site was but the turbo will make up for thin air. Awesome video guys!
If these two are both new I wonder if the pro r’s motor has some control of power levels during break in. I don’t think the turbo does but I don’t know about the pro
Interesting! Ditch the windshield, wide flares, light bar, non stock wheels and tires and find two machines with dynamix. Are either machines still in the break in period? My pro r got quite a bit faster after 300 miles. I wish you could measure wheel slip. Mine lights the tires if you punch it at 50. Most pro r drag comparisons I’ve seen have had to be in 4wd because it is just spinning the entire race where the turbo has traction.
I am not a Polaris guy but ill tell ya I'm not impressed with that pro R power whatsoever. 181 4 seat vs 225 2 seat?I'd honestly bet good money that our Turbo RR will drag any Polaris... stock. Love the way its built though. Looks tough. I bet it is tough too. Just not the fastest or most powerful by a long shot. On the other hand very impressed with the speed of that polaris Turbo R
As appealing as the Pro R is, Polaris is going to need to consider making a “trail friendly” version under 65” and 2000lbs in order to get it in under state size restrictions that are being imposed in certain states. In my home state (Maine) we have 6000 miles of trails making us the largest network east of the Rockies and makes us a dirt destination. Trouble is, us and other states are making it impossible to use these rigs.
So you want them to make a 64” machine but not the pro xp? I don’t get your logic. Polaris has the pro xp, general, 1000xp, rocks and trails, trail, trail s, and the ranger, all under 65”. But you want them to make another one under 65”???? I think they got that covered chief
I would like to get an opinion on whether this is a good buy or if I should wait. There is a demo 2023 Polaris RZR Turbo R Ultimate available for $26,995 with 2,965 miles. What do you think?
If your claiming that the pro r has extra 250lbs then that is the difference. So overall weight is 2437 and 2250 for the 4 seater. The 4 seater is lighter so that makes up for the hp difference. Every 100lbs is 1 tenth of a second and 1 tenth is about 1 car length so if you removed your accessories you should be roughly 2 lengths ahead of the 4 seater.
My pro r completely fell apart with less than 200 miles on it. One minute we were driving at 30 mph on a flat dirt road, the next we were stopped with a sheared main frame and broken ball joints around $17k in repairs. Very disappointed in polaris.
Give me a little time, wildcat sport to drop a 1,000cc 2-stroke firecat in the machine and still come in around 1,000 pounds..... be fun to drag this in the mix
What is the altitude you did the test? In airplanes we call it turbo normalization . meaning you get full power at altitude. The NA Pro R could be down power at altitude that the Turbo is not. As a general rule, a naturally aspirated combustion engine will lose 3% of its power for every 1,000 ft of elevation gain. at about 6,000 they make the same power.
If you are concerned about having the fastest car just go buy a Can-Am then you will have to stick about 10 grand into it just to strengthen it up so it doesn’t fall apart and it still will not be as strong as the pro r, but you will be fast. 🤷🏻♂️
As much as I'd LOOOOVE a pro/Pro R/X3 with a 5/6 spd, be it manual or DCT the packaging and weight requirements kind of kick that to the wayside. a CVT is lighter, smaller, and cheaper to manufacture. Yamaha has/had the tooling and tech to make it happen, primarily due to their motorcycles which the motor from the YXZ directly borrow from. While Polaris and Bombardier are manufacturing powerhouses, neither one has access to what Yamaha does in the small engine dept.
@@shawndejong6699 The weight difference is negligible, we are talking a 30-15lbs difference. The added power is 5-15 percent on top, that’s what you will feel. Belts were and always will be a bandaid for a lack of a real transmission.
@@Bigbossman12624 I’m not so sure about a 15-30lb difference. Have you seen most DCT transmissions? They’re not small, or light. Then there’s the issue of price. A $1500 oem part vs a $7500 oem part….
@@shawndejong6699 the DCT that Honda uses on almost everything is in fact small and light. Yes price is factor, a civic is going to cost less then a corvette. This is already a 40,000 dollar machine. Honda/Yamaha is able to do everything I’m listing, Polaris doesn’t have an excuse. Any smart person would take a 15 percent power gain for 30lbs. Most of us Chuck heavy bumpers on anyways and eat too much food.
@@Bigbossman12624 it’s not going to be a 30lb difference. It’ll likely be the better part of 80-100lbs. That said weight isn’t so much a factor as price. Here in Canada a Talon costs as much, and depending on location more than a 200hp X3…. Food for thought.
Yeaaa something seems off about SxS blogs races now !? I’m thinking a 200hp two seat X3 would gap these two in this particular race video . I could be wrong .
They show the weights at 10:35 . Their 2 seater is actually heavier with the included accessory weight. Not a perfect comparison but better than nothing.
Yet another keyboard warrior who hasn't actually WATCHED the video. This was NOT scientific. It was meant to be FUN... and we DID list the weights. But thanks for your constructive and helpful comment.
I just bought a Turbo R 4 last weekend. My friend has a Pro R. The Pro R is just slightly quicker, but my Turbo R 4 is more than fast enough for anything I'll be doing. So long to the old days of a VW 1600 in a dune buggies and think I was serious off reading. Polaris has built some incredible machines.
In my experience the windshield adds significant drag and makes a major difference at speed. Would like to have seen it popped off for another round.
Agreed I think you'd see a good bit of difference without the windshield on the pro r. I think that is also why it's pulling up so hard. Don't get me wrong dynamix definitely would help too.
I put a 4x5 flag on my 2019 xp 1k and it took 15 to 20 mph off my top end.... Lol
Please stop. Windshield lol? Spend 5k more for that motor to lose to a 4 seat turbo…. No thx
@@krismcclendonWhat? Added air resistance makes a huge difference.
@@mizaru666 keep dreaming. It didn’t perform that way because of a windshield lol
Great video. I think the turbo is just as fast from everything I’ve seen. Even aftermarket assassins had a race between the 2 and each was tuned and they are about even. Both 2 seaters they had. I love my turbo r dynamics 2 seater.
need to see x3 200hp against the pro r
Yes.
X3 will win. Doesn’t weigh as much.
Love the comparison video. Especially love the "closed course" haha 7:32 van drives by hahaha.
Gotta get those disclaimers in there. For the record, course was closed WHILE RACING. Had to let that van pass while we were sitting there talking.
Great Video comparing them side by side, I bought the Pro R and really like the suspension.
Awesome!!
Impressive but you know darn well Polaris will turbo that pro r once can am comes out with their new rig, should be an interesting couple of years
Good job boys I was surprised too 👍
I'd be curious to see a dyno test on both as part of the comparison. I doubt there's a difference, but are the gear ratios the same? I only bring it up because the engines are so different. Fun video to watch!
Thank you! ✌👊💥
Gear ratios are not the same. Drivetrain is significantly different in the Pro R
Mind blown. Thought the R would smoke the Turbo. Even more crazy is how close a big heavy 4 seat is, to a 2 seat, and it’s only a few pounds. Awesome comparison!
Thank you!! ✌️
Would have liked to see a roll race. That would have answered a few more questions. Great video
I love this I would like to see Polaris 450 sportsman vs 570 sportsman
More like this- awesome
Very interesting results! I ordered the Turbo R premium 2 seater just because I want to wait a year on the Pro R. I'm skeptical on first year model changes but I see great things coming in the future for the Pro R! Cool video guys!
Thank you!!
How do you like your turbo r premium
@S Keim I never got it! Like the x3 too much. 2023 X3 XRC RR is at my local dealer waiting for me to pay and pick up. I do miss some things about the polaris tho...
@@montanamountainutv what do you miss about Polaris
@S Keim the room in the interior! Can am has no storage room for tools, straps, ect. And the view from the driver seat.
Kinda funny, I saw a new 64 inch RC RR at the dealer, thought I want that. Then I see my Turbo R premium with ride command at my local polaris dealer....I bought it! Picking up this Friday!! So happy 😊 back to polaris!!
idk what elevation you guys were at but that would give the Turbo R and advantage for sure. also a lot of people in the comments dont understand, what makes the Pro R motor so gnarly is in real world driving the no lag coming out of corners is what makes the Pro R so much faster. strait line is totally irrelevant. then you factor in the extra length of the Pro R over whoops or chop and its even better and faster.
We are only at 1000-1500ft
This seems like hoonigans this vs that series. That's a lot of side by side!
I want to put that pro r engine in my general so bad!!
Would’ve liked to see a 200hp X3 RR thrown into this for fun
It would smoke both
Was the R in race mode if not that would make it take off slower.
Before picking the Pro consider the altitude where you’ll be running it. If you’re routinely 4000’ and above I figure the Turbo’s consistent 181HP will keep up with, and be lighter than, the naturally aspirated Pro. And if crossing mountains in CO/ID/MT is your thing the Turbo will likely flat-out slay the Pro on a trail like Big Bear at 12000’.
I think it would be interesting to compare HP and torque numbers for both machines. Turbo motors typically get more torque. Could bring a little more clarity to the results you guys came up with. Also I'm not sure what the altitude is where your test site was but the turbo will make up for thin air. Awesome video guys!
Pretty close to see level. Only about 1000-1500 ft.
Yeah let's race at 5,000 feet (where I live) and then again at 10,000 feet where I ride every weekend. Turbo might shine over N/A eh?
Lines up with what I’ve seen between my friends Pro R 4 and my Turbo R 4.
If these two are both new I wonder if the pro r’s motor has some control of power levels during break in. I don’t think the turbo does but I don’t know about the pro
Interesting! Ditch the windshield, wide flares, light bar, non stock wheels and tires and find two machines with dynamix. Are either machines still in the break in period? My pro r got quite a bit faster after 300 miles. I wish you could measure wheel slip. Mine lights the tires if you punch it at 50. Most pro r drag comparisons I’ve seen have had to be in 4wd because it is just spinning the entire race where the turbo has traction.
If you tuned turbo R and then did drag race, you can tune Pro R but you wont get that much hp vs what turbo R would gain
Wish u had a 2 seater test
Power-to-weight is everything
What elevation are you guys at? I wonder if the turbo helps maintain power at higher elevations?
We're only at about 1000-1500 ft.
@@dirttraxtv yeah that’s nothing! Thanks for the reply!
About 10% horsepower loss per 1000 feet. That makes the pro r somewhere in the 190-200 horsepower range
2 words. Torque curve. Which is better/more/flatter?
Can y’all try the new Maverick ds turbo please
Hoping to get some Can-Ams soon!
Ok nice
I say you guys throw these puppies up on the dyno. Only seems right, considering the outcome here.
THat's a good idea. Would love to Dyno these two machines.
Which one will smoke the belt 🤔 first????
So wich one is faster on a dirt road? The heavier unit?
Is the Turbo steering wheel peeling ?
I smell something fishy... possibly something underrated on the power. I really like my Turbo R
I love my Turbo R 😈
I am not a Polaris guy but ill tell ya I'm not impressed with that pro R power whatsoever. 181 4 seat vs 225 2 seat?I'd honestly bet good money that our Turbo RR will drag any Polaris... stock. Love the way its built though. Looks tough. I bet it is tough too. Just not the fastest or most powerful by a long shot. On the other hand very impressed with the speed of that polaris Turbo R
As appealing as the Pro R is, Polaris is going to need to consider making a “trail friendly” version under 65” and 2000lbs in order to get it in under state size restrictions that are being imposed in certain states. In my home state (Maine) we have 6000 miles of trails making us the largest network east of the Rockies and makes us a dirt destination. Trouble is, us and other states are making it impossible to use these rigs.
That is what the Pro XP is for.
Polaris having some models under 65" 😅 trail, trail S, XP.
@@Lavoieqb4 I’m fully aware of that. I own a General XP4 that is under the limits. I was referring to the Pro R.
So you want them to make a 64” machine but not the pro xp? I don’t get your logic. Polaris has the pro xp, general, 1000xp, rocks and trails, trail, trail s, and the ranger, all under 65”. But you want them to make another one under 65”???? I think they got that covered chief
They won't smoke the tires but try it and see like to see it
Have you done an X3 turbo rr vs a pro r?
We have mot had both units on thr ground at the same time.
@Dirt Trax TV no matter you guys are the absolute best, God bless.
@@peterpann9619 Thank you man. We really appreciate that 🙏
Boys and their toys - just need a dyno or the viewers will still smack talk who's is faster. Good way to spend a afternoon and cheers.
very instresting I just $50K and could have just paid less for the Trubo!
I would like to get an opinion on whether this is a good buy or if I should wait. There is a demo 2023 Polaris RZR Turbo R Ultimate available for $26,995 with 2,965 miles. What do you think?
I just bought a 2 seat turbo R ultimate for 26k with 5miles…
I would like to see the pro turbod..
Turbo motors are beneficial in higher elevations the Turbo compensates for the air density
If your claiming that the pro r has extra 250lbs then that is the difference. So overall weight is 2437 and 2250 for the 4 seater. The 4 seater is lighter so that makes up for the hp difference. Every 100lbs is 1 tenth of a second and 1 tenth is about 1 car length so if you removed your accessories you should be roughly 2 lengths ahead of the 4 seater.
My pro r completely fell apart with less than 200 miles on it. One minute we were driving at 30 mph on a flat dirt road, the next we were stopped with a sheared main frame and broken ball joints around $17k in repairs. Very disappointed in polaris.
181 Horsepower RZR Turbo R 2 seat look like one to have.
If all you need to take is you and your boyfriend. 🤷♂️
I want to see what kind of power the Pro would make with a turbo. It could spool a Garrett G25-660 with factory like throttle response
Is it really worth the extra 44hp. I dont think so!
Give me a little time, wildcat sport to drop a 1,000cc 2-stroke firecat in the machine and still come in around 1,000 pounds..... be fun to drag this in the mix
Sounds wicked.
Polaris no matter the configuration we bring new meaning to the phrase side by side. I'd still have to go with a Yamaha after this.
What elevation were you at?
Only at around 1000-1500 ft.
It is in the torque numbers.
Rolling start🤙🏻
AJ looking more and more like his dad Mark
Could you imagine that powerplant in a 2025 vr1
What is the altitude you did the test? In airplanes we call it turbo normalization . meaning you get full power at altitude. The NA Pro R could be down power at altitude that the Turbo is not. As a general rule, a naturally aspirated combustion engine will lose 3% of its power for every 1,000 ft of elevation gain. at about 6,000 they make the same power.
I think we are only at about 1000 ft above sea level.
If you are concerned about having the fastest car just go buy a Can-Am then you will have to stick about 10 grand into it just to strengthen it up so it doesn’t fall apart and it still will not be as strong as the pro r, but you will be fast. 🤷🏻♂️
100%
or just wait until the Pro R Turbo comes out
And than came a turbo Yxz 😁
RZR pro needs a 5 speed manual, belts suck at this hp range.
As much as I'd LOOOOVE a pro/Pro R/X3 with a 5/6 spd, be it manual or DCT the packaging and weight requirements kind of kick that to the wayside. a CVT is lighter, smaller, and cheaper to manufacture. Yamaha has/had the tooling and tech to make it happen, primarily due to their motorcycles which the motor from the YXZ directly borrow from. While Polaris and Bombardier are manufacturing powerhouses, neither one has access to what Yamaha does in the small engine dept.
@@shawndejong6699 The weight difference is negligible, we are talking a 30-15lbs difference. The added power is 5-15 percent on top, that’s what you will feel.
Belts were and always will be a bandaid for a lack of a real transmission.
@@Bigbossman12624 I’m not so sure about a 15-30lb difference. Have you seen most DCT transmissions? They’re not small, or light.
Then there’s the issue of price. A $1500 oem part vs a $7500 oem part….
@@shawndejong6699 the DCT that Honda uses on almost everything is in fact small and light. Yes price is factor, a civic is going to cost less then a corvette. This is already a 40,000 dollar machine. Honda/Yamaha is able to do everything I’m listing, Polaris doesn’t have an excuse.
Any smart person would take a 15 percent power gain for 30lbs. Most of us Chuck heavy bumpers on anyways and eat too much food.
@@Bigbossman12624 it’s not going to be a 30lb difference. It’ll likely be the better part of 80-100lbs. That said weight isn’t so much a factor as price. Here in Canada a Talon costs as much, and depending on location more than a 200hp X3…. Food for thought.
Elevation has a lot to do with n/a. Turbos make up for it.
Can am for the win
Of course they even out at top speed because they're both governed to the same top speed lol
If a turbo is beating a pro R thst means the x3 is still champ
So why would anyone buy the 225hp after watching this?
🤔
Im a little disappointed on the pro r
Results were definitely surprising.
Just put a hemi in it already! Stop wasting our time
now run them both against the 200hp can am
Yeaaa something seems off about SxS blogs races now !? I’m thinking a 200hp two seat X3 would gap these two in this particular race video . I could be wrong .
@@joekearney I think my Speed will gap them all when I get it in 2 months
Can am has no chance on pro r unless tuned and clutched
Not worth the money
Video is fake asf
Says the Pro R owner 😢
thats a stupid comparison - of course a 4 seat weighs more than 2 seat duhh
They show the weights at 10:35 . Their 2 seater is actually heavier with the included accessory weight. Not a perfect comparison but better than nothing.
Yet another keyboard warrior who hasn't actually WATCHED the video. This was NOT scientific. It was meant to be FUN... and we DID list the weights. But thanks for your constructive and helpful comment.
@@pavmentsurfer13 I’ll see myself out…