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- Опубліковано 19 сер 2024
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I hate to see this, but I'm grateful for your transparency. It's important for fellow athletes to understand the not so glamorous part of our sport. Get better soon my dude!
Thanks Jeff! It’s been a wild ride post crash, and I’m finally back to spinning the legs and feeling like myself. Your videos on your recovery from your crash were helpful!
@@ClaudioMarquez America needs to start it's own NHS like here in the UK , I crashed a few years ago , back injury , helicopter lifted me to Hospital , 3 months recovery and 2 ops , bill was ZERO , nothing , if that was in the USA it would be a 200k bill
$33000!!! Free to get fixed in Oz. The US health system is tragic.
You said it... I got hit by a car years ago while riding through an intersection in Perth (driver didn't give way and T-boned me)... it shattered my patella to smithereens ... 20 min after the accident I was in the ambulance to RPH, then X-rayed, operated on, 2 days in hospital, physio as an outpatient and it didn't cost me a cent... and the surgeon did a bloody excellent job too!!!!
I thought it was the cost of a bunch of broken bikes! Yikes!
it’s covered in california..
Best health care system ever! That's why people from all over the world come to the USA.
Make sure you follow your surgeon's advice about when to start using the arm. It would be a bummer to mess with the bone healing. I've broken my collarbones a total of 5(!) times and have had 3 surgeries. I've always waited 6 week before getting back on the bike. I'm an ER doc. No more crit racing for me.
Dude, I always appreciate your honesty and transparency in all these videos, but I can't believe you managed to capture so much of the aftermath of the crash on camera. I also can't believe this all happened _after_ you crossed the finish line. Stay strong. Wishing you all the best in your recovery. 🙏
When I broke my Bone every single bump in the car to the hospital was unbearable
I broke my collarbone 4 weeks ago. The first two weeks are the worst. hand in there my friend!
Sometimes i take for granted that i live in Europe (Denmark)
Budy had a concussion, stiches, MRI scan and so on.
Didnt cost a single dime.
same here in the netherlands
Denmark is the European country with the highest top statutory income tax rate as of 2024, with the Nordic country having a top taxation band of 55.9 percent.Jul 4, 2024 --any google search
Doesn't matter what country you live in, it costs someone nothing for free, my friend.
@@juannunez3107 We pay 40% taxes. But earn twice as much and get paid to go to school.
Bro telling us he weighs 258 lbs...Painkillers messing with his mind!
He meant to say 158 lbs right? Because I was like no way he is 258 lbs. LOL
Speedy recovery, Claudio! I had my collarbone surgery after a bike crash in 2020, so I know exactly how you feel. Don't lose your spirit, don't look back thinking "I wish I wouldn't do " or "I wish I did ". 👍👍
Same thing happened to me yesterday! Some guy came from behind and crashed us + others out AFTER finishing the line. Makes it that much more infuriating when people make dangerous decisions like that. Thankfully I got away with a sprain and road rash. Best wishes and heal up Claudio!
Sorry this happened to you, but goddamn US health care system is complete shit!
Right? My jaw hit the floor when he ran through the numbers, holy hell I am going to cuddle my medicare card tonight
"USA - the contry of freedom and opportunities" ... 😂😂😂🤮
750 for an appointment??
I am so mad for you. Mad about how messed up our country is (re: medical stuff), how messed up that crash was. fuu..... I broke my collarbone (first ever break) at 45. Snapped in two places, total bill was over $85k but luckily my insurance was excellent and covered most of it. Major ptsd watching some of this. :D The weirdest thing for me is the lack of nerve sensation, even years later and I have 2 plates and a bunch of screws so I have a fun metal bone. whee. I didn't choose to have it removed. Now, 5 years later it's starting to feel a bit more integrated. Anyway, not sure if you got any hardware installed. Always enjoyed your hype, your vibe, and your videos. Looking forward to more. Speedy and healthy recovery!
For me the sense came back after appr 2 years....
Dang, Claudio, sorry to hear about the rough luck. Glad to hear you're on the mend and heal up quick.
Dang bro speedy recovery you'll be back out racing in no time see ya at the races
OMG, the other racer wasn't looking at the end of the race and basically barrels right into you.... really sorry to hear about your clavicle.
Too worried about ending his race segment. Not sure why he cares so much he got close to last lol
I guess he was completely cross-eyed... so sorry Claudio
@@kene6660 we laugh about the rider going cross-eyed, I actually am cross-eyed 😀.... Although that was no way me that ran into Claudio 🙂.
Speedy recovery Claudio. I had broken collarbone too. Probably the worst pain I ever felt from all fractures I had.
Dude, well done on forgiving and moving on. I'm sure that was hard but it really works out best for both of you. God bless and keep on rolling!
Wild. People can be so stupid! I’m glad you’re ok
Welcome to the club. Mine was similar, although I pulverized about 3/4” of the bone and they had to put some synthetic stuff in there. Two cracked ribs and a cracked sternum. My bill was $125,000 including the ER and surgery. Hope you heal completely and quickly. Love you videos.
Back in Germany: splintered my arm last year, spent a week in the hospital with a challenging surgery. My bill was 52€
The dude that hit you looks like the pink terminator. He didn't even get on the brakes before he hit you. Hope you feel better soon. This is such a preventable crash. What's the point of putting power down and looking down on your head unit?
This is EXACTLY the info I was looking for regarding the insurance. Have been considering licensing primarily for this coverage. Please focus on this a bit in your updates.
Did a superman 2 weeks before Ironman FL after hitting a deep patch of sand while in the aerobars. After the first two weeks of h3ll, the worst part is the need to always sleep on your back for many months after. Fortunately, you will recover. Wish you the best.
Wishing you the best through all of this, the worst is over, get well and dont rush anything. Good luck dude...
Did the other rider at least apologize?
Yes
All the way from Dubai, just subscribed Claudio. Great videos and you’re an inspiration watching your progress from Cat 5 to Cat 3. I also broke my collarbone 4.5 years ago, so hang in there buddy it gets better. But dang, I almost forgot about the healthcare system in the US and man those medical bills. After living overseas for 11 years, I’m returning to the US in 5-6 months and looking forward to racing back home. Thanks for the tip with supplemental insurance with USA cycling. Speedy recovery, hang in there!
Get well soon, brother.
Bro, it’s good to know you’re doing well. Good to have you back with your positive attitude!
This looked super sketch at times… sorry to hear what happened, but welcome to the club… 😁
glad youre in good spirits and recovering well!
Hanging there wish you a speedy recovery
I was in this race. But ended up getting dropped and pulled on lap three or four. Like you said, it was fast.
Get well soon. Broke mine like 10 weeks ago and had to get surgery.
God bless bro. Get well soon. Any broken bone is BAD news.
It’s been one year since I broke my collarbone. Surgery, titanium plate with 8 screws. But I’m back riding and racing again 🤙. Wishing you a speedy recovery my friend 🙏
You're a good guy Claudio, hang in there brother!
Fast recovery man ✌️ 🕊️
I broke my humerus bone in a bike crash 1 month out of 3 right now. Doctor said no surgery just a brace and let it weld by itself. Spent 200 on a plastic brace they replaced 3 times my cement cast . I had employment insurance so at least i get paid 75% until i get back to work also the plastic brace and pills were covered by 70% . I have spent 300 the most. It was painful the first week but I am lucky it was not that bad financially. I live in Canada
Very sorry Claudio.pleased that you are on the mend. That must have been a huge shock for you. What a shame. I only ever raced once and came 3rd but that was riding a recumbent. I just wanted to feel the crowd euphoria. It's intense and so much prep. Never thought about crashes and pleased it never happened. I've been over the bars a number of times and it's not good. Recumbent is different but you can't do crits. When you are young , you mend quickly.
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Heal up fast brother!
Tough break, literally. Wish you a speedy recovery.
So did SPOT agree to coverage the charges/reimbursements? I've always been interested in knowing just how dependable that insurance is?
That sucks, about the collarbone and the insurance. I have been to the ER 3 times because of the bike and no surgery but has cost my insurance nearly $75,000. Hospitals are so expensive. Going to miss you at Intelli this year, I would always show up on your vids. Heal up quickly and try to stay positive
Dude I saw you crash and heard you yelling on the ground from the start/finish. I was at the tent a bit later and the EMTs were asking me where they should put your bike and I said they should just leave it on the rack. Glad ur ok
Thanks for your help man!!
Don’t think you meant to say “ your weighing 258lbs”
I got THIC
Speedy recovery. If I go down like this and they hand me a big bill...I'll be asking did I get the "Tony Stark"?
This is why I quit racing. I had a 1 month gap in insurance between jobs and didn't want to be financially ruined by another cyclist not paying attention or a random accident. Never went back to racing IRL.
Yikes 🤑 ...so glad Im Canadian. Get better soon so we can watch more of your videos. I always look forward to them.
That is some luck! In 2016, I broke my elbow and required a plate & screws.... I skipped the ER visit as it would have just been a waste of time and apparently I saved myself some cash (although my insurance would have covered it). I did the urgent care the following Monday morning and was able to get images done there ($350 visit). All in I was about $40K, but you know who is really well paid? The anesthesiologist! Good luck with the recovery!
Ah, sh_t. Sorry. You are a good man, Claudio. I don't think I would be as forgiving of being run into like that. I hope SPOT comes through. Supplemental insurance is honestly mandatory for US bike racers nowadays. I did my collarbone almost exactly a year ago. My total medical bills were over $45K and I DIDN'T even have surgery (literally just didn't want to pay for it). I'm telling my story because I have the best insurance available to me (as part owner of a small company). The total cost for my "family plan" is over $25K/yr (I pay a bit over $10K out of pocket, the company pays the rest) but I still ended up on the hook for over $13K. It would've been over $16K if I haven't spent a crazy amount of time contesting most of the bills they barely paid (or straight up didn't pay - they literally rejected the entire cost of my ambulance ride). Anyway, don't be me, with my gross lumpy collarbone and monthly payments to two separate hospitals. Get extra coverage if you race. Oh, congrats on the bike being undamaged. Should've said that first, right?
Hope your ok dude 🖖🇬🇧
30 some years of doing criteriums, dozens of major crashes, and no broken collarbones. I've always had insurance through my day job.
Reynolds Roofing -33000 Aura.
you are an inspiration and a great man, get well soon
Feels like in the US the ER is really milking it. Ive already had multiple fractures here in germany and the only time I was taken to MRI was when the xray wouldnt give a clear result.
Here it seems like you get the full programm, just in case... but this just lets your medical bill explode.
The guy that hit you #799, was also in the crash at 2:58, he was right in front of you to the right & then ran into the two guys that crashed as you watch in your rear camera
I crashed at valley of the sun in feb and went to the emergency dept also- still dealing with submitting paperwork via Spot. I don't know if you've found it to be a super annoying process that makes no sense but I sure have. I hope it ends up working out for us both!
Hope recovery goes well and the insurance claims pays out without a hassle. The Insurance part about health in USA is WILD!
I could not really imagine living in such a dysfunctional system... It feels like worse than some third world countries with those insane costs.
Did the Race+ reimburse you for anything or cover anything? Or is it too soon?
Nothing yet and it could take several months according what others have said about their experience
Meanwhile your cc could be maxed out.. paying interest.. another emergency and you’re screwed.. wish you all the best ❤
Damn Claudio. I almost know what how you feel. I fell off my bike in May during a ride and got a fracture on my shoulder and I'm still healing from it, I'm lucky I didn't need surgery but I have the same insurance as you, the worse one, and those doctor visits and PT add up. Also that MRI cost a lot, ~$1800 since insurance doesn't pay jack. Had to do a payment plan for that.
get well soon bro 👍
First. Wishing you a fast recovery!
dudeeeeee what a fucking dumb crash man. Glad you're better now but I've broken my collarbone before and that shit is terrribleeee pain
Real sorry you had this crash. I had my own a few weeks ago. Not as severe but still a crash.
I have a totally off topic question. What kind of mount did you use for your rear camera?
At 10:15 the group was coasting, 4 pedal strokes, 2 places
Heal up quick dude!
With 2 laps to go when that 2-man attack gets caught you are sitting in the top 5 wheels, you have momentum, and the road is open in front of you. Why not be aggressive and attack? Even if you're tired, you wouldn't have to do hardly any power to roll off the front there. The swarm is coming, so why not get ahead of it for almost no effort? Seems like a little more aggressive riding could be a good addition to your racing when you're healthy again imo
Glad you’re getting better. Did Spot insurance make the claim easy?
Welcome to the club!!!😂😂😂
Sue the other guy for the medical bills
speedy recovery! did you chat with the guy who caused all of this and how his injuries were?
i wanna know how u got a camera in the same room as that mri without it getting sucked in lol
Waouh ! Happy to be french when here all medical things are almost like free.
Fuuck. Real eye opener for 40 somethings like me with crap health insurance who want to get back on the saddle and race again. Im sorry this happened to you, cant imagine all the pain and stress youre going thru. Curious to know what your thoughts are about racing again. I mean, fuck 21k for a trip the ER? Wild. Take care bro.
Sorry to hear , wishing you a speedy recovery,. How long to be 100 💯 percent
7 days exactly, 8 days 😂
Medical system should not work this way without also having a free public option. Having to swipe 11 grand on a credit card is ridiculous for medical care and Americans complain about being shaken down for a few hundred dollars by ambulance drivers in Mexico.
American healthcare ladies and gentlemen. And they say we have the best? 🤣🤣🤣
I would quit the racing if I were you. You could have an accident that is even more expensive.
wow. tough. that looked like a big displacement so surgery warranted. do your rehab. I broke mine bad years ago and it was tough for me.
as for your race - good job. my eyes popped a bit when you mentioned your weight ! you work much harder than me :->
one thing I noticed is your heart rate was pegged high 170’s , like close to 178 for much of the race ? which seems crazy enough i’m not even sure it’s reliable.
so when you’re like , ok claudio is getting tired on the last lap - apologizing - I’m like , are you kidding me ? I’ve no idea how you could keep your bpm that high for that long.
lastly, maybe less so in a 3/4 race, but at those high speed , high effort races you’ve got to be glued on wheels to take advantage of draft and not get drained. but technique and field must be dialed or else crossed wheels and you know what eventually comes next. even more dangerous when you’re tanked and just trying your hold on.
I guess all that is obvious. except your heart rate which you never mentioned.
I’m a little older now but I think if I dangle close to 180 bpm for a while , I’m going down man - end is nigh
haven’t used heart rate in a long time but that’s my recollection. I’ll have to re-confirm :->
I’m 158lbs actually 🙃 and my max HR is around 192 so 178-180 is rough but sustainable!
258lb?
Lol I think he meant to say 158
mixing 3s and 4s is never a good idea
21k just for the tests. Man USA is screwed, you would be treated completely for free here in Europe. Tests + surgery, and then rehabilitation if needed - all for free.
What about the UCF insurance?
oh noo
i’ve been hit and cut off before by other cyclists; is there ever an opportunity to sue in these type of situations. i feel like yours is very viable due to you having it on footage. thoughts?
When I line up to race, I take all responsibility.
So the spot insurance didn't cover anything of that? What is it good for? All of this is direct result of the race. I remember at my race crash ~15 years ago what bothered me is all the separate bills. A bill for the ambulance ride. A separate bill for the skull CT (I lost consciousness, my helmet saved my mind probably), then another for the hip and knee X-Ray, another for the shoulder X-Ray, I cannot remember exactly. The various radiologist doctors were part of different factions and I was wondering if there are any bills left, when they would stop coming in. The health care system is a complete screw up! It's not even good for a bad joke. Be happy you haven't ended up like Phil Gaimon ($200K bill). I'm so happy I'm a EU citizen and can retire there.
Nutty
Dude when I was racing I was 150
Masters is hard cause they are all cat 1 or cat 2 and yes it is smoother they no how to corner and use the apex
1) Glad to hear you’re gonna be OK 😊. 2) God I hate our American healthcare system 😢
Why is your rpm 115
So the person that is at fault isn’t responsible for any part of the medical bills?
Not in my opinion. I sign away my life when I line up to race. I’m completely responsible.
Dude. It is 1000% the guy that hit you's fault. He wasn't paying attention to what was ahead of him, he was looking at his computer or his front tire or something. 1000% his fault. Do not be so forgiving. Stuff happens, but that guy taking you out is not the normal race stuff.
Realistically you can't sue anyone in a race for something they did, because by racing you assume heightened risk. And I get it, stuff happens, people crash. But your crash was totally unnecessary and never should have happened. Absolutely ridiculous that he took you out.
Unfortunately might have to sue to help with your bills.
So did spot end up covering it?
It will take several months to find out
@@ClaudioMarquez good luck! Please do an update video!
didnt watch the video or read anything, saw the thumb nail and had to give advice..... broke both my 4 times, yes 4 times, GET SURGERY to fix it. if your doctors says it will heal without it get a new doctor.
Weigh 258?
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What an idiotic crash, sorry to see this 👎
I have Plate on my colarbone both side..Fck..
Thank God we have the NHS in the United Kingdom it’s free
Sorry this happened to you and thank you for making these videos. I know this was an accident but the guy that hit you should pay for the medical bills.
Damn brotha Donald Trump got shot and he wasn't sounding like that 😂
What a ….That guy needs lessons in how to concentrate in a race till the very end.. when you are actually off the course 😢