@@SkydiveVibes I don't know where you are from although that is a cool accent you have. I could watch your videos all day long. I have liked and subscribed.
I actully find hop'n'pops fun. They're cheaper, sometimes I just want to fly my canopy, usually not that many canopys under me. Best jump of last year: hop'n'pop through clouds and just having the ride of my life swooshing down a fluffy cloud. Ah, skydiving.
That's one of the great things about skydiving. From one perspective, all jumps are the same: you jump out of a plane and land on the ground. From another perspective: There are tons of different things you can try and every skydiver has it's own prefered disciplines and things to do while in the air: Hop and pops, CRW, Free fall, tracking, funky exists, high altitude pulls to appreciate the view, formations, swooping, wingsuit flying, some enjoy the feeling of stalling, some don't like going through clouds, some others (like me) love going through clouds while falling on my back (upside down) and feel the cold moisture on my face...
@@Pokitchange86 Canopy relative work, or CRW (pronounced: crew), is the discipline of flying formations with parachutes deployed while in an active descent
I completed my A license requirements this past August. Of all the required jumps, the only one I had any apprehension about was the 3,500’ hop n’ pop. As we were getting on the plane my instructor said, “Now remember, do not pull too soon or you will get tangled with the tail of the plane.” Wonderful As we were taxiing to take off he says, “Now remember, do not pull too late or your AAD will fire.” Like I needed another stressor. I made the jump and it was the greatest thing in the world. The dopamine infusion was ten times normal. “YES! I GOT THIS!!! Let’s do it again.” The only thing which came close was the first jump I made with a rig I packed myself....but that is a story for another time... Keep up the good work...Blue Skies
I'm on my cat E jump next time out (next day or two) then I have to do the hop and pops, just another jump to me. I'm lucky in the fact I naturally have good body position and get stable right out of the door (says my instructor) so I'm not worried about doing them at all. Thanks for the videos, my GF and I are both skydivers and we love your channel. Come see us in Florida, Blue skies!
This video gave me a lot of peace of mind. I'm about to do my hop and pop in my STP (student training program) and I was a bit nervous in making sure to be stable. Great reminder 1-PULL 2- PULL at the right altitude 3- PULL at the right altitude and stable
@@SkydiveVibes Hop n Pop went great. Definitely watching this video helped calm my nerves and the opening was really slow like you mentioned but also very smooth. I will for sure be trying Hop n Pops. Maybe even be doing some this weekend since there is a forecast of clouds :)
I understand why people are feel a bit more stress doing hop and pop but it was the opposite for me when I started. I was way more stressed and even scared of the 13500ft jumps. In my head (since I was not trusting my abilities yet) I had more time to lose control of my stability, and having a hard time for my landing so having the landing zone free of other canopy helped me a lot, that’s why I preferred the hop and pop. And also, usually there’s not a lot of hop and pop in a load so the sky is totally yours and that so amazing !
First time I did an hop & pop during my AFF, I was scared; first time opening the door myself, and realizing that I will have to jump 500feet lower than the altitute I usually open . Right after I've reached a stable position I thought wow, I still have some time to enjoy the free fall. At first, I didn't thought to do more hop & pop mostly because of the shorter time of the free fall. But your video made me realized the importance of practicing those. I plan to go do one soon :)
Great video Catherine as always 👍 When I did static line training we started at 3,000 (3 sec delay) then worked up to 9,000 (30 sec delay). We didn't actually rely on our altimeters until we got to a 10 sec delay (around 6,000 ft) but wore them as a second check. Even then we still used the count as well as altimeter up to 20 secs (7,000 ft). So for hop & pops I would be inclined to count if you are looking to pull within 10 seconds. In terms of exits we did poised only so we could get stable ASAP 😊
Hop 'n pops are just great and fun. I even like to do them from 3000-3500 feet. 😊 Not to many jumpers in the air and all the time to have nice flight under canopy 😊
Love your videos, thank-you! I would like to see more live video of the actual task you are referring during your talk. Such as on these Hop & Pops, it would've been great to be watching it happen as you were speaking. Thanks again, and keep up the great work.
My first and only hop n pop was for my stage 9 AFF. I got to jump out of the cassna 182 which I got to hang on to the rail connecting the wheels and then let go. I had lots of doubts before the jump but after I’ve done it, it’s actually a lot better than I thought! There’s plenty of time to get stable and pull
Funny,back in the 70's we started low and worked our way up. Hop and pops were your first free falls. Then moving up to 5 second delays. We did hop and pops at 3500 feet. Should be under your trusty 28 or 35 foot round parachute by 2800 feet. Interesting hearing how you start high. Took us a while before we reached terminal velocity. Usually about 15 jumps on average.
I prefer to say, "Land with the plane." "Go down with the plane" sounds more like a plane crash, akin to a boat captain "going down with the [sinking] ship". I got my A-lic 5 days ago. 2 weeks before that I did my required 3.5 H&P using a rig that was my first pack job. Many told me I was bold to do the 3.5 on my packed rig, but I found great comfort in it. I finally had seen and understood all the workings of the rig and had every confidence it would open well. 🙂
Hop n hops is really nice. Every hop n hop is of course a really good one whatever you do then but just seeing and experiencing the plane as is it continue is already that absolutely amasing.
took a canopy course yesterday did 5 Hop& Pops had a blast every time . thanks for the vids . your very cool ,knowledgeable, and very pretty ,( did I say smart too ) Blue Skies from Austin Texas jumping out of Spaceland San Marcos
I did static line to get my A license so I am used to jump at lower altitude. Until 200 jumps, I did not care to do hop & pop and thought it was boring. Then last year, I experienced my 1st "Hard Opening!" I experienced 2nd "Hard Opening" this year. Hop & Pop is a great way to test my packing on a 1st jump since it opens slower and nice. Also, after hitting 350 jumps, I started to appreciate hop & pop. I practice bunch of canopy maneuvers during the hop & pop including accuracy landing.
anything between 2 and 3 as you were climbing and in the right spot. They seem to want to make a science out of a 2 or 3 second delay with airspeed provided by the plane . Not sure how you make that hard. The big difference back then were squarer BASE style canopies (or rounds if you want to go back further) that just opened with out the all streaming that is the fashion today.
Great video. I'm doing my AFF consols and thinking when to do my hop & pop. Looking back at previous L6 & 7 videod jumps it took 3 to 4 seconds to get stable. I am grateful for to information around deploying too early as that's what these demo jumps do and was considering that approach. I'll get belly to the earth stable first. Blue Skies 🤙
I frequently do 4000 ft hop’n pops, jumping for 53 years when hops were often 2500 & lower especially for accuracy jumps. Wish all could experience the joy of sub terminal
All these AFF peeps worried about exiting low. Interesting perspective. IAD syllabus has us starting with 3 IAD's at 4,500ft followed by a 5-second delay at 5,000', then 3 ten second delays from 5,500'. We don't see anything over 6,000' until solo jump eight, and that's IF you don't have to repeat any jumps. We end up pretty comfortable down there
Really usefull! The season is getting closer here :) I didn't do any hop and pops yet. (Not part of aff here) but need to do a few ofcours the tips you gave are useful! Kinda scary to jump that low but I will be fine :) I didn't jumped a lot but I tend to like salto exits a lot haha (feet over the edge and push yourself out, and give a nice big push with legs to rotate) Love your vids!
Reason #6 When you get old and opening at terminal velocity starts to hurt more and more... you can still get the thrill of jumping and flying your canopy with less impact! Go ahead and laugh, ya'll will understand some day! Enjoy your vids. Fav H&P exit = Gainer
Hey! Great video and love the channel! I don't mean to be a pain in the b... but in minute 02:40 you use meters when I think you should have used feet? 400mts is roughly 1200ft, which is more vertical loss than in terminal... the way I like to explain this when I have students making their Hop&Pops is that when exiting a plane at ANY altitude, because we have relative wind, it takes us 10 seconds to fall the first 1000 feet. After that we reach terminal velocity where we lose that same altitude (1000ft) but in half the time, 5 seconds. =) ✌😁
Yeah I did IAD and so my first 4 live pulls were what would normally qualify as "hop and pops." So this video talking about hop and pop anxiety as well as a guest instructor that was conducting a canopy course I attended while I was still getting my A license asking me if I knew how to hop and pop kind of confused me.
We were not supposed to do hop'n'pops during AFF, so I have never done it. But I want to. I usually afraid of others in the sky so I pilot my canopy very careful which slows down progression... hop'n'pops look like a solution for this problem.
What country are you in? I'm in the US and we have to do them from 5500 and 3500 to get our A license. Actually I'm 1 jump away from having to do them.
I never did AFF. Instead, I came up via the Static Line route. Jump #1 was at 3,000 ft. We made it all the way to 4,000 ft for my first non-static line jump (aka: a hop-n-pop). Then we started gaining altitude to do all the various stable and unstable exits, topping off at 6.500 ft. Then, climb into the Otter as a solo *student* and jump at 14,500 ft! What?! How long does it take to get to my opening altitude?! :D
Salut Catherine, je cherche ta vidéo dont tu fais mention dans celle,ci, sur les tips pour faire des sorties stables!! Ça m'intéresse 😁 Encore merci pour cette vidéo, toujours de bons conseils 🙏
Yes definitely! I mean even if someone knows the things you’re talking about You present the info so well and with awesome detail it is great and does so much to help newer jumpers!
Great video as always! I would love to see you go through wingsuit courses, how to attach your rig to a wingsuit, and the levels of progression. Just did my first balloon wingsuit jump, and it was actually easier than expected despite the dead air and low altitude. I have a lot of b-roll you could use. I’ll email you.
Before i did my first Hop n pop I thought it would be boring due to very little free fall but it was the opposite, they're a lot of fun!!! (for me anyway)
Nice explanation! We usually do hop&pops jumps in the military and out favourite exit/deplo game is “the extractor train” wich consists in hold and stay stable waiting for the next jumper deploy to trow our extractor. The game starts when last (of 3 or 4) leaves the plane and open his own. I mean: the 1st jumps, looks for the 2nd and holds. The 2nd jumps looks for the 3rd and holds. The 3rd jumps and deploy so number 2 trhows away the extractor and then the 1st one do the same. It warantees the scalation of altitudes 😂
If only I had time for a canopy course. Where I live in Germany is a bit "odd" when it comes to functionality of a dropzone versus being back home in the States. Two more years till I'm back home and jumping like crazy. In Germany, they usually don't even do hop and pops. I met a lot of Germans who hate jumping in Germany while I was in Norway at Voss last summer.
Good info to have. This year hopefully i will do my AFF after around 2 hours of tunnel time. I didn't read all the rules about parachuting but can we do hop n pop's from 10k~9k feets?
Hey Guys! I had to do 2 hop and pops for my A-Licence in Germany. I want to point out for every student it's ducking (with an f) scary!!!! Just because ...no that cannot be right, because you can already shake the hands of the people down there😅😅 but no in reality as Cathrine said...you have "hours" before deployment...do you remember you Frist class how to calculate the free fall time? 10 seconds for 300m? Yeah that's also valid at 1000m ;) so even after 3 seconds you are somewhere at 900m and 3 seconds are a long time to become stable! So no stress! The first time I did mine I hade to double-check 3 times my altitude not to pull too early ( we exited at 1100m).
It never occurred to me! AFF students have missed out on a lot of the low altitude experience that is the norm for those who started with static line jumps.
Skydive Vibes No worries, you put out a ton of good content for newer skydivers. Most people including myself would be making many more mistakes I’m sure. Keep up the solid channel.
Hello! First of all nice vid! Really doubting to go skydive for a while now and get an AFF course, but I’m kind of scared to do it, is it the same feeling of height like you would jump from a high building? Also kind off more scare of the plane itself lol
You won't get that feeling you can get of you jump from a building (if you ever experienced it...). You are in fact so high that you don't get that ground rush feeling. For the plane, simply remember that you are about to jump out of it so the plane ride won't be the scariest part hahaha
Go for it, trust me- once you are out- its zero fear, its adrenaline rush and you can experience sensory overload which make you"freeze" for 3 sec and you will be fine, just keep head up and you will be fine and if you now even thinking about doing aff that means you were born definitely try it. The moment your chute opens- you scream - "im f$%king alive" and you go to landing procedures and then you are the happiest person in the world. Thank me later :)
When I saw the title I thought it's about jumping from below 2000 ft or something (emergency jumps). My first jump without a static line was from 3000 ft. I have 15 jumps so far and I never jumped above 4000 ft. So 5000 ft is low for you guys 😅
Catherine, my name is nick and I'm a beginner skydiver, I went through he off course a few years ago, and ate dirt on my first jump, at first I was rolling and didn't have my legs bent enough, when it came to landing I didn't flare enough and ate dirt, I constantly watch your videos on the landing procedures, any more advice would be awesome, thank you
You've done 2 jumps. Eating dirt is normal. Repetition is the key to becoming good at anything but new skydivers, typically eat dirt. Frequent jumps in a short time span is best for learning. Jumping once a month is going to make poor progression. If money is an issue for anyone, I would recommend asking for ot, finding a part time job, learn parachute packing, offer to mow grass around the hangar, wash planes, or go and find a handful of lawns to mow in your neighborhood, etc etc
There are a couple of things that were not covered in this otherwise excelent instructional video. 1: if you have to jump under 2.500 feet, you should go directly for the reserve. ok with that. I had 2 total malfunctions in my life, one freeflying and another wingsuiting, in both situations I did both cutaway and reserve pull. In both cases my main bag went out because the container got baggy, having no reserve to press down, and fell to earth with the main canopy inside without deploying. Pulling both handles prevented a double canopy that WAS going to happen. So my experience says that if I have to leave the plane under 2.500 feet, I have to do cutaway and reserve pull, and not only reserve pull. If the main bag does not come out, you just put the cables back in place. 2. at 5.000 feet the air is substantially thicker than at 14.000 feet. If you are a freeflyer, take the oportunity to try the most tricky exits (head up, side fly, spins, etc) because they will be much much easier to stick, and learn. You have 5 - 6 seconds, which is plenty of time to try, get on your belly and pull. I cry every time I see people doing hop n pops directly on their bellies. What a terrible waste of the joyful relative wind!!! Go play with it.
Hmm interesting. Now it would be more from 5k but doable!
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I used to call it a hop and pop at 2500', then when I got to the USA a hop and pop was 5000'. LOL. We used to launch 3 ways and get one or two points in from 5000'
Here first timers jump from 4000 ft until they learn how to free fall ( there's no AFF here, you learn how to free fall by yourself ). We usually pull at 2600 ft. Most people quit because they're terrified of jumping from such a low altitude.
Ever since my second really bad hard opening, iv came to really love the slow smooth openings of hop n pops. I tell people I love hop n pops or high pulls the best and I get a lot of shit for it.. Who cares.
If your stressed do it on your back. Your have enough time to turn. You might miss and end on the back anyway. Plus you transfer your stress to the instructors 😂 You might have to end your skydiving day, depends on your DZ. Safety 1st
Skydive Vibes hop and pops are fun! It’s nice to get a soft/ sub terminal opening. Where I did aff they push the hop and pops to the end of the course so you have a little more confidence.
So you said when jumping from 5000ft you will travel 400 meters in first 5 seconds, but when at top speed you only travel 1000ft(300ish meters) in the same amount of time?
@@SkydiveVibes It was a static line type jump with T-10B type parachute and lasta position exiting from the plane. I took this course from Turkish Aeronautical Association (known as THK in Turkey). I was working for THK during a year(getting no salary) and getting the chance of joining some courses(for free) and i chose Skydiving course. Definition of the course was "preparing traniees to have a good plane exit and stable falling in lasta position by teaching them how to jump and do the lasta position with a static line T-10B parachute". But we were jumping from 2 old and abandoned Antonov AN-2 and they have had so many engine problems so we could make only 10 jumps in 2 months. All jumps were about 1500ft. Then instructors told us to earn money and go to the other dropzone of THK which gives courses (so expensive, price is about 12 times of the minimum salary for the FAI-A license). So i had to left skydiving. But i watch your videos everyday. I love talking about skydiving and topics about skydiving. Your videos makes me excited. Please continue to share videos. I dont have money to have a FAI-A course but i am keeping my informations fresh and up to date by your great videos. Greetings from Turkey. Blue skies 🤙🏻
@@clayb1832 that's awesome. I haven't looked up how to do that. What level of skydiving license do you need? And can you do a 24k ft jump at night? It would be even better at night.
Clutch Nixon you only need your A license and need to find a dropzone that can do those jumps legally (some websites offer high altitude tandems and you can hop on for a fun jump.) I agree night jump at that alt would be sick!
NEVER EVER exit the plane with your hand on the (reserve)handle, I disagree with you on that issue. You'll be more likely to pull to fast, especially in a situation with a higher stress level, such as an emergency situation. A too early canopy deployment can cause an entanglement with the tail of the aircraft, something you do not want to happen, especially not in a low altitude emergency situation. I have seen it happen up close when a skydiver exited the plane with his hand already on on his (main) pilot chute. It was a planned hop & pop and he deployed too soon. Luck was that the pilot chute went over the horizontal stabilizer, his main canopy underneath and pulled the pilot chute and bridle off the horizontal stabilizer. TAKE THAT EXTRA SECOND, even at a lower altitude, do never ever exit with a hand on the main or reserve deployment system !
@@SkydiveVibes maybe that is why we used to call these kind of exits not a "hop & pop" but a "clear & pull". It basically says what you need to do. But that is said by me, who started in the days that FS was called RW, CF was called CRW and who is not a very active skydiver anymore at this moment :-)
Comment below: Do you like Hop & Pops? What is your favorite exit?
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Skydive Vibes Unstable Back Loop Exit ! Love it ! And I was scared to death 💀 about this jump on my AFF Course ! 😂😜
thanks catherine !
6th reason to do a hop n pop ... they are suuuuuuper fun :)
@@petesbreen6283 Of course!
I love them. They're a great low stress way to stay current and practice those canopy skills.
@@SkydiveVibes I don't know where you are from although that is a cool accent you have. I could watch your videos all day long. I have liked and subscribed.
my prefered hops n pop are at 13k feeets. sunset.... those are the best.
I actully find hop'n'pops fun. They're cheaper, sometimes I just want to fly my canopy, usually not that many canopys under me. Best jump of last year: hop'n'pop through clouds and just having the ride of my life swooshing down a fluffy cloud. Ah, skydiving.
Amazing! I learned to love them too!
Used to be $5 at lodi ... you can't even look at an airplane for less normally
@@SkydiveVibes hi
Pilot should lose his/her license for dropping you in clouds. Also hop/pops are only $1 cheaper.
PS, I love the H&P
That's one of the great things about skydiving. From one perspective, all jumps are the same: you jump out of a plane and land on the ground. From another perspective: There are tons of different things you can try and every skydiver has it's own prefered disciplines and things to do while in the air: Hop and pops, CRW, Free fall, tracking, funky exists, high altitude pulls to appreciate the view, formations, swooping, wingsuit flying, some enjoy the feeling of stalling, some don't like going through clouds, some others (like me) love going through clouds while falling on my back (upside down) and feel the cold moisture on my face...
What is CRW?
@@Pokitchange86 Canopy relative work, or CRW (pronounced: crew), is the discipline of flying formations with parachutes deployed while in an active descent
@xXxOlivier911xXx thank you!
I completed my A license requirements this past August. Of all the required jumps, the only one I had any apprehension about was the 3,500’ hop n’ pop.
As we were getting on the plane my instructor said, “Now remember, do not pull too soon or you will get tangled with the tail of the plane.”
Wonderful
As we were taxiing to take off he says, “Now remember, do not pull too late or your AAD will fire.”
Like I needed another stressor.
I made the jump and it was the greatest thing in the world. The dopamine infusion was ten times normal. “YES! I GOT THIS!!! Let’s do it again.”
The only thing which came close was the first jump I made with a rig I packed myself....but that is a story for another time...
Keep up the good work...Blue Skies
Haha great experience. Those rush of adrenaline are why we are skydivers!
I'm on my cat E jump next time out (next day or two) then I have to do the hop and pops, just another jump to me. I'm lucky in the fact I naturally have good body position and get stable right out of the door (says my instructor) so I'm not worried about doing them at all. Thanks for the videos, my GF and I are both skydivers and we love your channel.
Come see us in Florida, Blue skies!
This video gave me a lot of peace of mind. I'm about to do my hop and pop in my STP (student training program) and I was a bit nervous in making sure to be stable. Great reminder 1-PULL 2- PULL at the right altitude 3- PULL at the right altitude and stable
Super! Let us know how it went!
@@SkydiveVibes Hop n Pop went great. Definitely watching this video helped calm my nerves and the opening was really slow like you mentioned but also very smooth. I will for sure be trying Hop n Pops. Maybe even be doing some this weekend since there is a forecast of clouds :)
I understand why people are feel a bit more stress doing hop and pop but it was the opposite for me when I started. I was way more stressed and even scared of the 13500ft jumps. In my head (since I was not trusting my abilities yet) I had more time to lose control of my stability, and having a hard time for my landing so having the landing zone free of other canopy helped me a lot, that’s why I preferred the hop and pop. And also, usually there’s not a lot of hop and pop in a load so the sky is totally yours and that so amazing !
That is true. If you are alone doing a hop and pop. The sky is yours!
First time I did an hop & pop during my AFF, I was scared; first time opening the door myself, and realizing that I will have to jump 500feet lower than the altitute I usually open . Right after I've reached a stable position I thought wow, I still have some time to enjoy the free fall.
At first, I didn't thought to do more hop & pop mostly because of the shorter time of the free fall. But your video made me realized the importance of practicing those. I plan to go do one soon :)
Super!! Thanks for watching!
Definitely like hop & pops especially in the winter, it's a little cold here in Wisconsin, lol, I think my favorite exit is any out of a helicopter.
Seeing this before my first hop & pops would have definitely been helpful. My first was sketchy, but 2 years & a canopy course later I now love em!
Super! I hope to help many new skydivers with this one. ;)
@@SkydiveVibes It certainty will! Can't wait for the next video on exits!
Great video Catherine as always 👍
When I did static line training we started at 3,000 (3 sec delay) then worked up to 9,000 (30 sec delay). We didn't actually rely on our altimeters until we got to a 10 sec delay (around 6,000 ft) but wore them as a second check. Even then we still used the count as well as altimeter up to 20 secs (7,000 ft). So for hop & pops I would be inclined to count if you are looking to pull within 10 seconds. In terms of exits we did poised only so we could get stable ASAP 😊
Hop 'n pops are just great and fun. I even like to do them from 3000-3500 feet. 😊 Not to many jumpers in the air and all the time to have nice flight under canopy 😊
Love your videos, thank-you!
I would like to see more live video of the actual task you are referring during your talk. Such as on these Hop & Pops, it would've been great to be watching it happen as you were speaking.
Thanks again, and keep up the great work.
My first and only hop n pop was for my stage 9 AFF. I got to jump out of the cassna 182 which I got to hang on to the rail connecting the wheels and then let go. I had lots of doubts before the jump but after I’ve done it, it’s actually a lot better than I thought! There’s plenty of time to get stable and pull
Funny,back in the 70's we started low and worked our way up. Hop and pops were your first free falls. Then moving up to 5 second delays. We did hop and pops at 3500 feet. Should be under your trusty 28 or 35 foot round parachute by 2800 feet. Interesting hearing how you start high. Took us a while before we reached terminal velocity. Usually about 15 jumps on average.
I prefer to say, "Land with the plane." "Go down with the plane" sounds more like a plane crash, akin to a boat captain "going down with the [sinking] ship".
I got my A-lic 5 days ago. 2 weeks before that I did my required 3.5 H&P using a rig that was my first pack job. Many told me I was bold to do the 3.5 on my packed rig, but I found great comfort in it. I finally had seen and understood all the workings of the rig and had every confidence it would open well. 🙂
Planes airspeed gives you everything you need. Exit, relax, clear the plane , pull. It not rocket surgery.
Hop n hops is really nice. Every hop n hop is of course a really good one whatever you do then but just seeing and experiencing the plane as is it continue is already that absolutely amasing.
Great video. I'm a retired pilot but never did jump out of a plane. Maybe one of these days!
took a canopy course yesterday did 5 Hop& Pops had a blast every time . thanks for the vids . your very cool ,knowledgeable, and very pretty ,( did I say smart too ) Blue Skies from Austin Texas jumping out of Spaceland San Marcos
That’s where I jump! I need to get back at it!
I did static line to get my A license so I am used to jump at lower altitude. Until 200 jumps, I did not care to do hop & pop and thought it was boring. Then last year, I experienced my 1st "Hard Opening!" I experienced 2nd "Hard Opening" this year. Hop & Pop is a great way to test my packing on a 1st jump since it opens slower and nice. Also, after hitting 350 jumps, I started to appreciate hop & pop. I practice bunch of canopy maneuvers during the hop & pop including accuracy landing.
in the 70's we jumped from 3000 for hop and pops
I still do 😊
anything between 2 and 3 as you were climbing and in the right spot. They seem to want to make a science out of a 2 or 3 second delay with airspeed provided by the plane . Not sure how you make that hard. The big difference back then were squarer BASE style canopies (or rounds if you want to go back further) that just opened with out the all streaming that is the fashion today.
Congrats
It's funny. I have a lot of friends, who do only hop'n'pops, because they do precision landing and nothing else and they actually hate free fall :-)
I did CReW back in my 20's and didn't like freefall then either.
Excellent vid, 🐈! Love hop and pops and my fav exit is a gainer.
Thanks Jason! Gainers are so cool, I like them a lot!
Great video. I'm doing my AFF consols and thinking when to do my hop & pop. Looking back at previous L6 & 7 videod jumps it took 3 to 4 seconds to get stable. I am grateful for to information around deploying too early as that's what these demo jumps do and was considering that approach. I'll get belly to the earth stable first. Blue Skies 🤙
#6 when you get old, sub terminal jumps are easier on the bod...and you still get to hang out with the cool kids hehe
This is massive !
Great work!
A lot of things to remember.
Can’t wait to see the one about exits!
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Thanks Marco!
I frequently do 4000 ft hop’n pops, jumping for 53 years when hops were often 2500 & lower especially for accuracy jumps. Wish all could experience the joy of sub terminal
All these AFF peeps worried about exiting low. Interesting perspective. IAD syllabus has us starting with 3 IAD's at 4,500ft followed by a 5-second delay at 5,000', then 3 ten second delays from 5,500'. We don't see anything over 6,000' until solo jump eight, and that's IF you don't have to repeat any jumps. We end up pretty comfortable down there
You are right. That is a perception for sure.
I love doing hop and pops.
Really usefull! The season is getting closer here :) I didn't do any hop and pops yet. (Not part of aff here) but need to do a few ofcours the tips you gave are useful! Kinda scary to jump that low but I will be fine :)
I didn't jumped a lot but I tend to like salto exits a lot haha (feet over the edge and push yourself out, and give a nice big push with legs to rotate)
Love your vids!
Thanks for watching! Where do you jump?
@@SkydiveVibes in the Nederlands, Dz called "paracentrum texel" beautyfull place
Reason #6 When you get old and opening at terminal velocity starts to hurt more and more... you can still get the thrill of jumping and flying your canopy with less impact! Go ahead and laugh, ya'll will understand some day! Enjoy your vids. Fav H&P exit = Gainer
Hey! Great video and love the channel! I don't mean to be a pain in the b... but in minute 02:40 you use meters when I think you should have used feet? 400mts is roughly 1200ft, which is more vertical loss than in terminal... the way I like to explain this when I have students making their Hop&Pops is that when exiting a plane at ANY altitude, because we have relative wind, it takes us 10 seconds to fall the first 1000 feet. After that we reach terminal velocity where we lose that same altitude (1000ft) but in half the time, 5 seconds. =) ✌😁
Reason #6 Static Line /IAD starting course
Reason #7 For competitions (accuracy landings with big canopies, pond/accuracy swooping, etc.)
Right on! Thanks for sharing!
Yeah I did IAD and so my first 4 live pulls were what would normally qualify as "hop and pops." So this video talking about hop and pop anxiety as well as a guest instructor that was conducting a canopy course I attended while I was still getting my A license asking me if I knew how to hop and pop kind of confused me.
We were not supposed to do hop'n'pops during AFF, so I have never done it. But I want to. I usually afraid of others in the sky so I pilot my canopy very careful which slows down progression... hop'n'pops look like a solution for this problem.
What country are you in? I'm in the US and we have to do them from 5500 and 3500 to get our A license. Actually I'm 1 jump away from having to do them.
always your videos are amazing!!!!!!!!! i could not wait for the next video :) thanks a lot for the info :)
Thanks Sam!
Very good info. Thank you
I never did AFF. Instead, I came up via the Static Line route. Jump #1 was at 3,000 ft. We made it all the way to 4,000 ft for my first non-static line jump (aka: a hop-n-pop). Then we started gaining altitude to do all the various stable and unstable exits, topping off at 6.500 ft. Then, climb into the Otter as a solo *student* and jump at 14,500 ft! What?! How long does it take to get to my opening altitude?! :D
Is it possible to pull if you're unstable with your belly to the sky?
Salut Catherine, je cherche ta vidéo dont tu fais mention dans celle,ci, sur les tips pour faire des sorties stables!! Ça m'intéresse 😁 Encore merci pour cette vidéo, toujours de bons conseils 🙏
Awesome video 👍🏻 as always!
Thanks Clay! Did you learn something?
Yes definitely! I mean even if someone knows the things you’re talking about You present the info so well and with awesome detail it is great and does so much to help newer jumpers!
Great video as always! I would love to see you go through wingsuit courses, how to attach your rig to a wingsuit, and the levels of progression.
Just did my first balloon wingsuit jump, and it was actually easier than expected despite the dead air and low altitude.
I have a lot of b-roll you could use. I’ll email you.
Good idea. I'll try to think about something!
Before i did my first Hop n pop I thought it would be boring due to very little free fall but it was the opposite, they're a lot of fun!!! (for me anyway)
Yeah and great for canopy piloting skills!
@@SkydiveVibes And I need all the help I can get with that 🤣
Nice explanation! We usually do hop&pops jumps in the military and out favourite exit/deplo game is “the extractor train” wich consists in hold and stay stable waiting for the next jumper deploy to trow our extractor. The game starts when last (of 3 or 4) leaves the plane and open his own. I mean: the 1st jumps, looks for the 2nd and holds. The 2nd jumps looks for the 3rd and holds. The 3rd jumps and deploy so number 2 trhows away the extractor and then the 1st one do the same. It warantees the scalation of altitudes 😂
Hahaha interesting.
If only I had time for a canopy course. Where I live in Germany is a bit "odd" when it comes to functionality of a dropzone versus being back home in the States. Two more years till I'm back home and jumping like crazy. In Germany, they usually don't even do hop and pops. I met a lot of Germans who hate jumping in Germany while I was in Norway at Voss last summer.
Interesting. Do they have a specific reason for that?
Nope. Just money grabbers eating their pockets.
Good info to have. This year hopefully i will do my AFF after around 2 hours of tunnel time. I didn't read all the rules about parachuting but can we do hop n pop's from 10k~9k feets?
You can but your dropzone needs to agree on it and you need a bit more experience before cause you can get very far at that height under canopy!!
Hey Guys! I had to do 2 hop and pops for my A-Licence in Germany. I want to point out for every student it's ducking (with an f) scary!!!! Just because ...no that cannot be right, because you can already shake the hands of the people down there😅😅 but no in reality as Cathrine said...you have "hours" before deployment...do you remember you Frist class how to calculate the free fall time? 10 seconds for 300m? Yeah that's also valid at 1000m ;) so even after 3 seconds you are somewhere at 900m and 3 seconds are a long time to become stable! So no stress!
The first time I did mine I hade to double-check 3 times my altitude not to pull too early ( we exited at 1100m).
Thanks for sharing Roman!
It never occurred to me! AFF students have missed out on a lot of the low altitude experience that is the norm for those who started with static line jumps.
Sounds great but I'm already feeling nervous. I guess that I have to TRUST the physics of falling.
You said exiting the plane at 5000’ft in 5 seconds you will have traveled 400 meters (1,312’ft) I’m not sure if that’s right
Oups, you are right I meant 400 feet!
Skydive Vibes No worries, you put out a ton of good content for newer skydivers. Most people including myself would be making many more mistakes I’m sure. Keep up the solid channel.
Alright you already mentioned it! I was confused by that as well. I was thinking 400 meters can't be right 😅
@@SkydiveVibes n such a rush going for first aff jump monday
i did a hop and pop out of a 4 seater cessna at 1200 ft. it was my scariest jump.
titan Rott might as well BASE jump
At what altitude was your canopy open and did you pack `as usual`?
I wouldn't jump that low with my skydiving gear, unless going straight to reserve.
Hello! First of all nice vid!
Really doubting to go skydive for a while now and get an AFF course, but I’m kind of scared to do it, is it the same feeling of height like you would jump from a high building? Also kind off more scare of the plane itself lol
You won't get that feeling you can get of you jump from a building (if you ever experienced it...). You are in fact so high that you don't get that ground rush feeling. For the plane, simply remember that you are about to jump out of it so the plane ride won't be the scariest part hahaha
Go for it, trust me- once you are out- its zero fear, its adrenaline rush and you can experience sensory overload which make you"freeze" for 3 sec and you will be fine, just keep head up and you will be fine and if you now even thinking about doing aff that means you were born definitely try it. The moment your chute opens- you scream - "im f$%king alive" and you go to landing procedures and then you are the happiest person in the world. Thank me later :)
I love your channel!!
Thanks for watching! Where do you jump?
Skydive Vibes Boituva, near to São Paulo Brazil🤘🏻🇧🇷
When I saw the title I thought it's about jumping from below 2000 ft or something (emergency jumps). My first jump without a static line was from 3000 ft. I have 15 jumps so far and I never jumped above 4000 ft. So 5000 ft is low for you guys 😅
i’m not a skydiver anymore. i wish this channel existed 12 years ago.
You may not be skydiving anymore; but once a skydiver, always a skydiver!
My aff lvl 4 i jumped over clouds and passed through them with my canopy deployed, i guess we have different rules in belgium
Catherine, my name is nick and I'm a beginner skydiver, I went through he off course a few years ago, and ate dirt on my first jump, at first I was rolling and didn't have my legs bent enough, when it came to landing I didn't flare enough and ate dirt, I constantly watch your videos on the landing procedures, any more advice would be awesome, thank you
You've done 2 jumps. Eating dirt is normal. Repetition is the key to becoming good at anything but new skydivers, typically eat dirt. Frequent jumps in a short time span is best for learning. Jumping once a month is going to make poor progression. If money is an issue for anyone, I would recommend asking for ot, finding a part time job, learn parachute packing, offer to mow grass around the hangar, wash planes, or go and find a handful of lawns to mow in your neighborhood, etc etc
There are a couple of things that were not covered in this otherwise excelent instructional video. 1: if you have to jump under 2.500 feet, you should go directly for the reserve. ok with that. I had 2 total malfunctions in my life, one freeflying and another wingsuiting, in both situations I did both cutaway and reserve pull. In both cases my main bag went out because the container got baggy, having no reserve to press down, and fell to earth with the main canopy inside without deploying. Pulling both handles prevented a double canopy that WAS going to happen. So my experience says that if I have to leave the plane under 2.500 feet, I have to do cutaway and reserve pull, and not only reserve pull. If the main bag does not come out, you just put the cables back in place. 2. at 5.000 feet the air is substantially thicker than at 14.000 feet. If you are a freeflyer, take the oportunity to try the most tricky exits (head up, side fly, spins, etc) because they will be much much easier to stick, and learn. You have 5 - 6 seconds, which is plenty of time to try, get on your belly and pull. I cry every time I see people doing hop n pops directly on their bellies. What a terrible waste of the joyful relative wind!!! Go play with it.
we used to launch 4 ways from 2 grand. try it some time.
Hmm interesting. Now it would be more from 5k but doable!
I used to call it a hop and pop at 2500', then when I got to the USA a hop and pop was 5000'. LOL. We used to launch 3 ways and get one or two points in from 5000'
I fucking love Hop and Pops they are awesome
Here first timers jump from 4000 ft until they learn how to free fall ( there's no AFF here, you learn how to free fall by yourself ). We usually pull at 2600 ft. Most people quit because they're terrified of jumping from such a low altitude.
Where do you jump? Is it IAD or SL then?
@@SkydiveVibes That's how it was back in the old days!! :o
@@SkydiveVibes Same here in Romania. We begin with SL and after min. 5 of them we jump solo from the same altitude.
@@SkydiveVibes SL until you learn how to exit properly ( around 5-10 jumps maybe ) then you go solo ( no iad )
Ever since my second really bad hard opening, iv came to really love the slow smooth openings of hop n pops. I tell people I love hop n pops or high pulls the best and I get a lot of shit for it.. Who cares.
is hops and pops increase my skydiving number?
Yes it does!
If your stressed do it on your back. Your have enough time to turn. You might miss and end on the back anyway. Plus you transfer your stress to the instructors 😂 You might have to end your skydiving day, depends on your DZ. Safety 1st
Very good
Karate chop ! ❤
And for CRW jumps
fav exists are doing " jme met en boulette et je deboule pendant 5 a 10 secondes " apres ca je arques et je profite de la vue
When going through aff I did two hop and pops. One at 3500 and one at 5k
How did it go for you?
Skydive Vibes hop and pops are fun! It’s nice to get a soft/ sub terminal opening. Where I did aff they push the hop and pops to the end of the course so you have a little more confidence.
Aff or A license training?
@@jordanhanson-flores2433 It’s all part of the same thing really, but yes it was during the coach jumps after Aff 1-7
How is the Hop and Pop at 13,000 feet? i learned that it was fun.
It a bit more tricky to plan with the DZ but I guess it's great!
@@SkydiveVibes Quel centre de parachutisme tu saute le plus? j'ai fait mon PAC a Voltige et cet été je vais aller a NOUVEL AIR Farnham.
@@shrebus je saute à Québec. Je visite Farnham de temps en temps. Tu me laisseras savoir!
I did a hop in pop, barfed all the way down! I prefer 13,500ft.
So you said when jumping from 5000ft you will travel 400 meters in first 5 seconds, but when at top speed you only travel 1000ft(300ish meters) in the same amount of time?
I'v make a lot of hopp-and-pop's because of ...money! It's way cheaper than 4.000 meters jump. For me, money is a important factor... 🙂
Thumbs up for when you said "SCIENCE"
Haha that was fun to make.
My first jump was at the altitude about 1500ft... :')
Was it a static line type of jump or IAD?
@@SkydiveVibes It was a static line type jump with T-10B type parachute and lasta position exiting from the plane. I took this course from Turkish Aeronautical Association (known as THK in Turkey). I was working for THK during a year(getting no salary) and getting the chance of joining some courses(for free) and i chose Skydiving course. Definition of the course was "preparing traniees to have a good plane exit and stable falling in lasta position by teaching them how to jump and do the lasta position with a static line T-10B parachute". But we were jumping from 2 old and abandoned Antonov AN-2 and they have had so many engine problems so we could make only 10 jumps in 2 months. All jumps were about 1500ft. Then instructors told us to earn money and go to the other dropzone of THK which gives courses (so expensive, price is about 12 times of the minimum salary for the FAI-A license). So i had to left skydiving. But i watch your videos everyday. I love talking about skydiving and topics about skydiving. Your videos makes me excited. Please continue to share videos. I dont have money to have a FAI-A course but i am keeping my informations fresh and up to date by your great videos. Greetings from Turkey. Blue skies 🤙🏻
How many skydives do you have now? Where do you jump? Do you wingsuitfly?
400 meters must be 400 feet maybe? Good vid!
400m = 1300ft
No 6 Military Para Jump
i like hop and pop s in are airplane a lot , so when they are out , we have a lot of room till we are off 13.000 ft lol lol lol lol lol lol
hop n drop
why it s called hop and pop?
Are you a tandem master?
No. Why were you asking? ;) Maybe one day!
@@SkydiveVibes at one point you dumped with your left hand.
@@michaeldanks5975 really!!? Hmm oups. I'll check that!
@@SkydiveVibes 3:12, I had to check again though. When you did that while talking about going through 5000' it just got me wondering.
@@michaeldanks5975 well you are right. I must have been distracted by my talking hahaha
on cloudy days we would launch 4 ways from 2 grand.
why thuly call it hop &pop? 🐥
😊
HALO jumps look more fun
There are also cool. I agree!
There is def benefits for both, I’m doing a 24 k ft jump this spring I’m stoked! But hop n pops have been useful before
@@clayb1832 that's awesome. I haven't looked up how to do that. What level of skydiving license do you need? And can you do a 24k ft jump at night? It would be even better at night.
Clutch Nixon you only need your A license and need to find a dropzone that can do those jumps legally (some websites offer high altitude tandems and you can hop on for a fun jump.) I agree night jump at that alt would be sick!
NEVER EVER exit the plane with your hand on the (reserve)handle, I disagree with you on that issue. You'll be more likely to pull to fast, especially in a situation with a higher stress level, such as an emergency situation. A too early canopy deployment can cause an entanglement with the tail of the aircraft, something you do not want to happen, especially not in a low altitude emergency situation. I have seen it happen up close when a skydiver exited the plane with his hand already on on his (main) pilot chute. It was a planned hop & pop and he deployed too soon. Luck was that the pilot chute went over the horizontal stabilizer, his main canopy underneath and pulled the pilot chute and bridle off the horizontal stabilizer. TAKE THAT EXTRA SECOND, even at a lower altitude, do never ever exit with a hand on the main or reserve deployment system !
Gotcha. I had that discussion too with someone else. That makes absolutely sense. I'll see if I can remove that part.
@@SkydiveVibes maybe that is why we used to call these kind of exits not a "hop & pop" but a "clear & pull". It basically says what you need to do. But that is said by me, who started in the days that FS was called RW, CF was called CRW and who is not a very active skydiver anymore at this moment :-)
У тебя красивые белые зубы))) мне нравится
1000 feet 400 meters you cant use two different systems of measurement to give a similarity. What the hell
Get about 15 seconds before you should throw
From 5k sounds right. Heaps of time!
sorry i am not deploying my reserve at 2 grand. if you are uncomfortable deploying your main at 2 grand perhaps skydiving is not for you.
Check your pronunciation of "relative" please.
5000' is a skydive! A 2500' or lower jump is a hop and pop!