You mean its not realistic for a pretty standard 1935 Chinese battleship to cost more than 40 times what an Iowa class actually cost? Yeah, the devs vastly overestimated how much this stuff cost lol.
Assuming the game uses current day value instead of period value (which makes some sense) then the battleship cost only 2x what an Iowa class cost. Adjusted for inflation an Iowa class cost around $2.1b in today's dollar.
I would read it as after 1 hour you can withdraw for the 5 points... OR you can continue (sacrificing the rest of your ships i.e. you have lost >50%) to get more kills on the enemy fleet for a few more points. Or in your case, mopping up the small fry for the 10 point enemy wipe. More Funny Memes :D
Something I discovered recently if you want absurdly sized speedy ships is the Italian large cruiser II, a BC hull with a max tonnage of about 40k, has a design speed of 38.5 knots which will let you get up to about 43 knots before you fall over the magic cliff that adds ten thousand tons for a extra knot of speed. This hull is available at 1930 in the ship designer, and the only hull in the game with a higher design speed is the UK's super BC hull which isn't available until 1935 in the designer and has a much higher max tonnage. If you want a stupidly fast large cruiser/small battlecruiser hull the Italian hull is a lot of fun. Sadly you can't have 8in main batteries on it, which is the max size the medium gun barbettes for thetriple superfiring shenanigans support.
If you just want fast, take any hull with 90-95+ Hullform and a starting max speed of 30 knt or above and go to -10% on draft and beam, this pushes the cliff out of the speed scale, and voila you can now have a 45 knt BC. So for instance this works on, all the modern CL, Scout Cl, all the modern CA, (BC 5 and above as far as i remember) and even some of the Modern BB hulls. Then run a Diesel 1 engine for the 75% Cruise speed and you now have a above 25 knt cruise speed gun platform.
Stealth: you want me to take on a bc and BB with a couple of cruisers? Me: ummm may i draw your attention to a previous video you did where you sank 5 british BC's with 2 light cruisers in your german campaign?
@@CouchPotator Yes, but now it seems they retreat even when they have the numerical superiority. It happens to most of the admirals this week actually, the Chinese fleet retreats from the considerably smaller Japanese fleet.
Yah, somehow the AI knows what kind of ships you have, before they ever spot you. Sounds like a broken mechanic to me. Who wants to play a game that has the enemy mostly running away. I would sail for the in game 4 hours and never see a single ship. I did find away to maybe get the cowardly AI to return... I just stop the ships. stop wasting fuel and just sit there, for 4 hours in game. sometimes they show up. but if they don't I didn't waste all my fuel chasing them.
If i remember correctly, the tall barbette for small guns can fit 8" gun, not sure if quads can but I know triple can, so you can have a theoretical 30 gun broadside
If you are already at 200+% engine efficiency is there still a benefit to going forced boilers? I personally would go natural for the weight, or balanced for the lower smoke interference. Great vid as always though
Hey stealth here's a Interesting tactic for a campaign if you do a naval invasion just send your entire fleet while yes it does leave you vulnerable it works suprisingly well for me. Even when im playing austria hungary ON LEGONDARY DIFFICULTY also max out transport capacity so you dont have econimic problems
With the current version and the DIP mod, you can fit 8x4 8" guns on 1950s tech cruisers, specifically japanese cruisers. The broadside is spectacular.
That oversteer issue is one I've been seeing for several months with fast heavy/battlecruisers. Since a 38+ kt BC is my go-to endgame design, it is really driven me away from the game. I had shelved it for around 4 months now, only to recently start a campaign. Seeing that this bug persists... Might end this campaign early.
Think it is a bug, since my ships do not have that much roll. Also, it does not happen if I use manual rudder control. I think the game can't quite figure out how to handle speed+length at this level.
10:30 On some ships you can quad stack 8" guns so you have one on the deck, two on the double barbette like that, and then one on a really tall barbette or on a barbette on the raised section of a ship or on a tower.
11:53 into the video and all I see is acceleration: 11.163kn/s..... and less than 2 minutes after he bumps the max speed up to 39kn and even then the acceleration is over 7/s.
Hi Stealth, recently have you found it hard to initiate peace talks, iam constantly at war, probably 15 of the past 16 years, convoys have dropped below 100%, i can only agree to peace when the computer wants it and iam winning the points battle usually 3 to 1
Maybe I have misread the interface during the ship design phase, but it felt like you've misaligned one of the turrets which gave the ship a tilt. So maybe that's why it's going in zigzag pattern and oversteering to compensate?
1:40 Sometimes I also feel like those "announcements" are written by utter troglodytes, who are absolutely unable to create a coherent sentence with apparent meaning...
I don't think anyone would bother setting up a scenario, if the objective was to run away. That is what the programmed AI does on a regular basis. We are human, so I would think we would be above the running away in a video game.
You mean its not realistic for a pretty standard 1935 Chinese battleship to cost more than 40 times what an Iowa class actually cost? Yeah, the devs vastly overestimated how much this stuff cost lol.
I'd honestly be surprised if the entire Chinese navy in 1935 cost what an Iowa cost.
yah, that is what happens when you don't have a clue.
@@KOS762 This...
This game will never live up to even half of its potential until the devs allow modding
Assuming the game uses current day value instead of period value (which makes some sense) then the battleship cost only 2x what an Iowa class cost. Adjusted for inflation an Iowa class cost around $2.1b in today's dollar.
If you include the Chinese corruption, it make sense.
24 guns is like an MLRS, but instead empty after a salvo, it fires again in a half minute.
6... 4 gun turrets... of 8" guns. This thing would have driven everyone out of range in 30 seconds.
I have a form of this ridiculousness in my British campaign. They are amazing and obliterate everything if they have auto loaders etc.
Oh yeah, and you can make one with the new US cruiser hull. I called it the double dozen class cause 24 guns is nuts
Also reminds me of pre-WWI comments on ammo consumption of Pom-Pom ie 37-40mm Maxim guns. "This thing would bankrupt my country in minutes".
@@aldasilva3560 If I could actually put the game on my computer... I would call the lead ship dunken... because it is 2 dozen insane doughnuts.
I would read it as after 1 hour you can withdraw for the 5 points...
OR you can continue (sacrificing the rest of your ships i.e. you have lost >50%) to get more kills on the enemy fleet for a few more points.
Or in your case, mopping up the small fry for the 10 point enemy wipe.
More Funny Memes :D
The ship would probably fit if it shot a full broadside
"they're messy, they're innacurate, they're pretty awful"
Wasnt your last campaign a US one where you chose to use torps on every ship?
He chose that requirement to make it more challenging for him. i.e. That was a difficulty penalty he had to overcome. (wasted deck space and tonnage.)
Something I discovered recently if you want absurdly sized speedy ships is the Italian large cruiser II, a BC hull with a max tonnage of about 40k, has a design speed of 38.5 knots which will let you get up to about 43 knots before you fall over the magic cliff that adds ten thousand tons for a extra knot of speed. This hull is available at 1930 in the ship designer, and the only hull in the game with a higher design speed is the UK's super BC hull which isn't available until 1935 in the designer and has a much higher max tonnage. If you want a stupidly fast large cruiser/small battlecruiser hull the Italian hull is a lot of fun. Sadly you can't have 8in main batteries on it, which is the max size the medium gun barbettes for thetriple superfiring shenanigans support.
If you just want fast, take any hull with 90-95+ Hullform and a starting max speed of 30 knt or above and go to -10% on draft and beam, this pushes the cliff out of the speed scale, and voila you can now have a 45 knt BC. So for instance this works on, all the modern CL, Scout Cl, all the modern CA, (BC 5 and above as far as i remember) and even some of the Modern BB hulls. Then run a Diesel 1 engine for the 75% Cruise speed and you now have a above 25 knt cruise speed gun platform.
"Okay. does this look out of place? Yes. Am I going to use it? Hell yes."
Also, "When in doubt, more guns."
This, is funny.
damn... that is literally Tillman-style heavy cruiser... with all those guns...
Stealth: you want me to take on a bc and BB with a couple of cruisers?
Me: ummm may i draw your attention to a previous video you did where you sank 5 british BC's with 2 light cruisers in your german campaign?
It's sad that the AI seems to always run away no matter what now, but hey, you did really good sinking the poor capital ships! 😅
now? The AI always just ran away when faced with a superior foe.
@@CouchPotator Yes, but now it seems they retreat even when they have the numerical superiority.
It happens to most of the admirals this week actually, the Chinese fleet retreats from the considerably smaller Japanese fleet.
Yah, somehow the AI knows what kind of ships you have, before they ever spot you. Sounds like a broken mechanic to me. Who wants to play a game that has the enemy mostly running away. I would sail for the in game 4 hours and never see a single ship. I did find away to maybe get the cowardly AI to return... I just stop the ships. stop wasting fuel and just sit there, for 4 hours in game. sometimes they show up. but if they don't I didn't waste all my fuel chasing them.
Twenty-four 8.1" guns. YES PLEASE! IMO that should make for a great campaign ship.
If i remember correctly, the tall barbette for small guns can fit 8" gun, not sure if quads can but I know triple can, so you can have a theoretical 30 gun broadside
Theese Challenges are always fun to watch
OOOOHH MMMYYYYY!! Amazing! Excellent choice of clips!
"Atlanta class, but I switched turrets for four barrel 8.1 inchers"
"What is happening to your crew?"
Stealth full of surprise watching 48 guns pointed towards one enemy ship
If you are already at 200+% engine efficiency is there still a benefit to going forced boilers? I personally would go natural for the weight, or balanced for the lower smoke interference. Great vid as always though
love the editing style, I will definitely be using that barbette type myself to make some monstrosities of my own.
They are pretty insane.
I really like the new editing style
Glad to hear it :)
SECONDED.
Captain be like:WE NEED MORE BOOLETS
You should've gotten 3 CLs, you only set it to 2.
I like the little clips to punch up the jokes
Hey stealth here's a Interesting tactic for a campaign if you do a naval invasion just send your entire fleet while yes it does leave you vulnerable it works suprisingly well for me. Even when im playing austria hungary ON LEGONDARY DIFFICULTY also max out transport capacity so you dont have econimic problems
Enjoying the increasing use of memes :)
With the current version and the DIP mod, you can fit 8x4 8" guns on 1950s tech cruisers, specifically japanese cruisers. The broadside is spectacular.
It was minimum of 1 hour; you could fight longer. I think the reading of that is pretty Straight forward.
That oversteer issue is one I've been seeing for several months with fast heavy/battlecruisers. Since a 38+ kt BC is my go-to endgame design, it is really driven me away from the game. I had shelved it for around 4 months now, only to recently start a campaign. Seeing that this bug persists... Might end this campaign early.
Is it a bug or is it connected to over 30% tilt his ship has in design phase?
Think it is a bug, since my ships do not have that much roll. Also, it does not happen if I use manual rudder control. I think the game can't quite figure out how to handle speed+length at this level.
10:30 On some ships you can quad stack 8" guns so you have one on the deck, two on the double barbette like that, and then one on a really tall barbette or on a barbette on the raised section of a ship or on a tower.
Bro if that aint a he spammer idk what else thats supposed to be that thing has only 1 weakness, armor
Sometimes no armour best armour. So many over penetrations on non-vitals yet none of the enemy could break citadel.
You should have brought your light cruiser's alarm to help deal with the destroyers
ur cruiser is simply built different
This thing definitely would see one time combat if it was real 🤣jeezus that's alot of guns
I haven't watched a uad video in a while but if I do it's one of your videos lol, I hope everything is going great!
11:53 into the video and all I see is acceleration: 11.163kn/s..... and less than 2 minutes after he bumps the max speed up to 39kn and even then the acceleration is over 7/s.
Maybe something similar to the King George V-Class. A and Y turret 4 barrels, B and X turret 3 barrels next time?
Where can we see the current standings in the tournament?
Tournament ended a few weeks ago
@@Stealth17Gaming Oh, well are the results listed somewhere?
challonge.com/6n6m6465
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'Commence dakka'
the GUNboat
say hello to the 24 gun salutes class
Your ship design ... shits and giggles 🤔 I'm going to love this.....
I made a similar design but with 11.9's
We need a battleship with the same turret layout (6×4)...
Everything burns! hahaha
for the love of god don't let Wargaming see this ship design
curious what the most accurate ship you could make is
Didn't you forget 1 CL on your Team?
Hi Stealth, recently have you found it hard to initiate peace talks, iam constantly at war, probably 15 of the past 16 years, convoys have dropped below 100%, i can only agree to peace when the computer wants it and iam winning the points battle usually 3 to 1
Maybe I have misread the interface during the ship design phase, but it felt like you've misaligned one of the turrets which gave the ship a tilt.
So maybe that's why it's going in zigzag pattern and oversteering to compensate?
What is the campaign
It's a pocket battleship
All that daka means those cruisers are built for the japanese by the Americans.
why tnt 4 over tnt 2?
twin turrets are the best
You think 4.3 billion is bad? I built a heavy cruiser that costs 10 billion in the campaign 😭 it's so good yet I'm so scared to lose it
I would consider the game popping up the end battle button as long as you put your ships in retreat.
It mean for 1hour must suivied get 5point
Cheese :)
1:40 Sometimes I also feel like those "announcements" are written by utter troglodytes, who are absolutely unable to create a coherent sentence with apparent meaning...
I don't think anyone would bother setting up a scenario, if the objective was to run away. That is what the programmed AI does on a regular basis. We are human, so I would think we would be above the running away in a video game.