3 reasons why Gen Z is rejecting military service

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  • Опубліковано 30 вер 2024
  • The U.S. military is still facing a historic recruitment crisis in 2023, failing to meet goals for enlisting new soldiers by a wide margin. Why are so many young people saying no to military service?
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  • @griffithd05
    @griffithd05 11 місяців тому +49

    As an 80s baby and former Marine, I'm with Gen Z. The only thing worth it was the social programs like GIBill and free medical and I just want people to have that without joining. There are DOZENS of us socialist/lefty veterans, I swear. Also, being stereotyped as conservative because I was in the military is hilarious and gross. I did it all for the free stuff boomer! :)

    • @mvend10
      @mvend10 5 місяців тому +2

      I’m gen z and I’ve loved my past 9 years in the army.

    • @mgauci45
      @mgauci45 3 місяці тому +2

      Right? I mean, I'm not against national service, however I think there should be other options than the military. Maybe there could be a govt civilian organization that runs alongside the military, providing services that would free up service people for combat related roles.
      Germany has this. Everyone does 2 years. You get the option to stay or leave. After that, you can go to university to your hearts content.

  • @mgauci45
    @mgauci45 11 місяців тому +23

    As a 20 year veteran, I can tell the young folks to ask this: When the recruiter starts talking to you, ask about how theyd be treated after they serve.

    • @azzamziply3039
      @azzamziply3039 11 місяців тому +6

      That's assuming they'll survive... I'd rather ask what's the mission even for and why

    • @k5ive4
      @k5ive4 8 місяців тому +4

      @@azzamziply3039people don’t realize there’s jobs in the military where you don’t get shot at or are in harms way at every moment

    • @gavinoreilly1501
      @gavinoreilly1501 3 місяці тому

      It’s hilarious how people truly think that “If I join the military I’m going to die!!!!1!1”. We lost less people in the total 20 years of fighting in Afghanistan than we did in 9/11.

    • @mgauci45
      @mgauci45 3 місяці тому

      @@k5ive4 It's not just combat related injuries. All trades are expected to meet minimum military soldier standards. At least in Canada it is. We say up here "Soldier First, Tradesperson Second" or as I liked to say "I kill people Sir, then I get on the radio and tell someone about it!" :p
      Many people, especially tradespeople, suffer injuries that are trade specific. My working in Army Comms, my ears are shot. Tmj, tinnitus, about 35% hearing loss in both ears. Not to mention you're hard pressed to find anyone that was in the military who does not have arthritis.

  • @avryotter9252
    @avryotter9252 11 місяців тому +75

    This is not a country worth dying for.

    • @chevyboyforlife4234
      @chevyboyforlife4234 11 місяців тому +12

      This country is most definitely worth dieing for...the government on the other hand...not so much

    • @matthewchristopher4139
      @matthewchristopher4139 11 місяців тому +8

      Then leave it. Find a better one. You wouldn't defend that one either would you ? It's not about defending your government but ,defending your way of life. Please leave our country because there are people who love this country and want it to change for the better. I at least had the balls to enlist

    • @Screwdriver3478
      @Screwdriver3478 11 місяців тому +4

      @@matthewchristopher4139 this is true but why are you being aggressive nobody will listen to you if your mad at them

    • @zomerhalpme9787
      @zomerhalpme9787 11 місяців тому

      @@matthewchristopher4139 we shouldn’t have to defend our way of life by tossing people into a bloody warzone to die for corrupt politicians.

    • @azzamziply3039
      @azzamziply3039 11 місяців тому

      ​@@matthewchristopher4139you had the balls to admit that you were tricked to enlist for defending the US soil.... in reality you're just a number, a pawn, to protect what? The country? 😂😂😂 from what threat? There hasn't been an attack on US soil since the Civil War.
      Wars outside of a country isn't protecting a country, it's called an invasion.... good job, I hope the government will pay for your PTSD meds

  • @sofia.eris.bauhaus
    @sofia.eris.bauhaus 11 місяців тому +12

    maybe people value their life more…

    • @sofia.eris.bauhaus
      @sofia.eris.bauhaus 3 місяці тому +3

      ​@TommyyHockey do you think it's good to side with the powerful?

  • @cerbera_22
    @cerbera_22 11 місяців тому +36

    Im not dying for a country that doesnt even have free healthcare

    • @TempName525
      @TempName525 11 місяців тому +3

      Low bar

    • @Jamhael1
      @Jamhael1 5 місяців тому

      ​@@TempName525 and that is the point - why should anyone fight for a country that cannot even provide the MINIMAL BASIC?
      The US government are looking more and more like a dead-beat dad or a tacky ratchet scandalous woman everyday that passes...

    • @gavinoreilly1501
      @gavinoreilly1501 3 місяці тому

      Free healthcare will raise taxes and decrease the quality of care. Look at Canada.

  • @mvend10
    @mvend10 6 місяців тому +9

    Some gen z kids don’t even know what their own gender is. They wouldn’t consider military service because their gender is always on their mind.

    • @AboveTheNoise
      @AboveTheNoise  6 місяців тому +4

      Yeah, crazy to see young people these days thinking a lot about things like who they are and who they love....smh.

    • @mvend10
      @mvend10 6 місяців тому +2

      @@AboveTheNoise can’t argue with that though

  • @straberryshinigami15g97
    @straberryshinigami15g97 11 місяців тому +11

    1) because murder is immoral.

    • @Leviathan762-zh4lq
      @Leviathan762-zh4lq 8 місяців тому +2

      That has little to do with it

    • @CapybaraHunter187
      @CapybaraHunter187 6 місяців тому

      what if someone wants to murder you and your way of life? everything that you and your ancestors have built?

  • @ummerfarooq5383
    @ummerfarooq5383 11 місяців тому +5

    Gen z going to be hunted down by army bots, and cleaned

  • @TheAcidBunny04
    @TheAcidBunny04 11 місяців тому +8

    And I quote, as a veteran with mental health issues prior to service: "There's a waiver for everything." - MMA1 Mansavage

    • @TheAcidBunny04
      @TheAcidBunny04 11 місяців тому +1

      but yeah I never should have joined.. But at least my husband is in the air force! 😂

  • @napoleon3026
    @napoleon3026 11 місяців тому +4

    Of course obese people are automatically disqualified
    The tatoo rule on specific places doesn’t surprise me either
    Face tatoos can get you rejected from Job interviews as well.

  • @christopherheselton9421
    @christopherheselton9421 Місяць тому +1

    This isn't anything new. The military had the same struggle 20 years ago with millennials.

    • @briangulley6027
      @briangulley6027 Місяць тому

      True in joined the AF in 1977 a few years after Vietnam when enlistments were way down. Reagan came in and restored American pride and rebuilt the military. We need a Reagan now.

  • @billybarnett2846
    @billybarnett2846 2 місяці тому +1

    Nobody has ever fully trusted the military. As a 70s baby and former Army, they would always do something sketchy.

    • @briangulley6027
      @briangulley6027 Місяць тому

      The military is an extension of and takes orders from the government. Now if you don't trust the government then I'm with you.

  • @macadamia668
    @macadamia668 Місяць тому

    As a Gen Z in the ranks. I can tell you that Gen Z "weakness" thats driving them away.
    Its the whining boomers and Sad Millenials that need someone to harass their power on.

  • @haveaday1812
    @haveaday1812 2 місяці тому +1

    A 4th reason is ME.
    I’ve been screaming at these kids for 20 years to stay the F out.

  • @williamstara60able
    @williamstara60able 11 днів тому

    I tried to sign up for turned away 4x. Like bye

  • @AmandaHolcomb-z6e
    @AmandaHolcomb-z6e 2 місяці тому

    Look up the word professionalism.....

  • @ExarKush
    @ExarKush 11 місяців тому +1

    Lujan fixin it on her own

  • @jim4859
    @jim4859 6 місяців тому

    i served in the 1970s. If you think about the kind of folks you want servicing and SR71, maybe that explains why the military can be picky about who gets in. As for the all time low level of trust in American institutions, I suggest they get out of facebook and tick tock and read some actual news papers. Then start voting.

  • @poduck2
    @poduck2 11 місяців тому +7

    You forget that the military has often been looked at as a masculine thing to join. That is no longer the case, due to several changes in policy, and marketing.

    • @azzamziply3039
      @azzamziply3039 11 місяців тому +3

      It's mostly the cause, there's no threats on US soil and there's no need for an oversea invasion

  • @thomasr.jackson2940
    @thomasr.jackson2940 11 місяців тому +7

    Good summary. Re: #2, this is largely a perceptual issue. While the risks exist and the military is one employer who actually explicitly asks people to risk their lives, US military service is rather safety conscious, even during combat. During the height of the combat in the Iraq and Afghan wars, the rate of violent death for male US troops 18-25 was actually lower than with US civilians of the same demographic.
    This is largely do to doctrines developed after Vietnam with the advent of an all volunteer military. Now the US military invests heavily in its troops and does not treat them as expendable, but rather long term investments. One result is that for the fist time in almost two centuries of records, during the Iraq war saw a a decrease in deaths due to battle injuries (about a 75% reduction), which were themselves greatly reduced.
    The military remains an excellent way to both serve and benefit one’s self, objectively speaking. This doesn’t invalidate the observations in the video.

    • @frankcastle5737
      @frankcastle5737 11 місяців тому +2

      I highly doubt it invests much in its troops.

    • @thomasr.jackson2940
      @thomasr.jackson2940 11 місяців тому +2

      @@frankcastle5737 it costs $65-90k/troop from recruitment to first unit. That is just the most basic of investment costs. The investment continues with ongoing training, schools, non pay stub support like food and housing, family healthcare. A deployed infantry soldier can have $250k of training.
      The modern US military is a high skill level profession.

    • @azzamziply3039
      @azzamziply3039 11 місяців тому +2

      ​@@thomasr.jackson2940high skill? Nah just high investment....

    • @CapybaraHunter187
      @CapybaraHunter187 6 місяців тому

      @@frankcastle5737where do you think the trillions the us invest into its military are going? stop staying ignorant lmao

  • @SuzysRedStripes
    @SuzysRedStripes 8 місяців тому

    Interesting

  • @Based_location
    @Based_location 6 місяців тому +2

    Gen z is weak

    • @AlystraCurrentlyAFK
      @AlystraCurrentlyAFK 6 місяців тому +2

      Weak is an understatement. As a Gen Z, I Look around at my generation and I think they’re just plain pathetic, but Gen Alpha is far worse I’m telling you…

    • @CapybaraHunter187
      @CapybaraHunter187 6 місяців тому

      @@AlystraCurrentlyAFKyep western society is doomed if this continues. our enemies are getting stronger while people here in the western world cry about someone assuming their gender😂

    • @75thwasanightmare
      @75thwasanightmare 6 місяців тому +2

      @@AlystraCurrentlyAFK YOURE NOT WRONG, LIKE FREAKING SKIBIDI TOILET, YOURE KIDDING ME

    • @doesntmatter7560
      @doesntmatter7560 4 місяці тому

      You can say the same to Hippies in the 80s

    • @doesntmatter7560
      @doesntmatter7560 4 місяці тому

      Thats not gonna encourage people to join

  • @sugardolly8479
    @sugardolly8479 11 місяців тому +1

    Watching this video as I'm signing👀

    • @azzamziply3039
      @azzamziply3039 11 місяців тому +3

      Run. Don't. Not worth jt

    • @gavinoreilly1501
      @gavinoreilly1501 3 місяці тому

      But it is worth it, the United States is worth protecting. I hate people who say it isn’t because without the military, the freedom that you enjoy wouldn’t exist. It is worth it.

    • @KeithMee
      @KeithMee Місяць тому

      ​@@gavinoreilly1501have you been told that or independently decided that?

    • @gavinoreilly1501
      @gavinoreilly1501 Місяць тому

      Independently decided.