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Step up to MEDIUM FORMAT 120 Film from 35mm? Easy!
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- Опубліковано 19 лис 2021
- In this video I shoot a Mamiya 6 6x6 Medium Format Camera and show how easy it is for anyone thinking it's difficult. It's not.
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Wonderful!! Thankyou!!
@@ShootFilmLikeaBoss 😃👍✨
Adding your wonderful sense of humour to these videos is fantastic!
ha ha thanks.
it took me forever to "get" square format then forever to get back into oblong. thankfully I can switch between both now hahaha
Back in the days when Ektachrome Superslides from 4X4 cameras were a thing, the Yashica 44 was the next step up from the Brownie Six Twenty.The next level roll film camera in the family lineup was a Rolleicord V that saw numerous rolls of Verichrome Pan 120. Although both cameras had the same kinds of controls, the Rollecord was better built. The Yashica 44's focusing knob came off when the focusing rack shaft broke. One couldn't do much focusing since the shaft had broken off at the bolt holding the focusing knob. Oh well, 127 film is a "dead film" these days, aside from dedicated re-rollers with 127 spools. The Rolleicord survived my childish fumbles and was repaired and updated to a much better split-image-circle focusing screen, and can be used as a "mini view" today.
Nice story! Thanks for sharing the info. I used 127 once for an old soldier vest pocket camera.
I moved up to a tlr in 1961 when I was 16.
I still used a 35mm with a 30mm wide lens for snap shots.
I still use a 1957 Yashica Mat and a Nikon F2a with a Nikkor 24mm 2.8.
I just recently got a Yashica Mat124G. Nice camera that I need to get used to 🙂
Mamiya 6 is a great camera. It is bit on the expensive side in good condition. I bought mine broken and been slowly fixing it. Unfortunately the front lens has little bit of damage.
Thanks for the video.
I never stepped up to medium format from 35mm because I started with medium format. I used medium format cameras for 15 years before I purchased my first 35mm camera.
Good stuff!
And dont forget the good old Box cameras either Roger. I have a couple Box Brownies that use 120 film, and I've found I can get quite good shots with them if I take my time. and Zeiss also made their own range of Box camera's as well. they are of quite good quality and you can get excellent results with them. I have a Zeiss Ikon box Tengor and have gotten some wonderful shots with it. the one that actually got me into shooting film in the first place was a 1936 vintage Zeiss Ikon folding camera I got for 30$ at a camera fair in Adelaide , Australia where I live. it blew me away with its simplicity, yet the pics you can get with it are again, wonderful if you slow down and take your time.
I've never had the fortune of using one. I've seen them in antique shops but always look really bad! I shot a VPC a while back. 127. That gave surprising results!
Nice video. More of a teaser and invite than powerhouse of detail information, but fun and useful nonetheless. I particularly liked the 50s music, real blast of the past mood.
Another fun video! I'm in that process of choosing which size and which camera!! I shot 35mm form high school in early 80's until the early 2000's, HAD a full darkroom too (Beseler 23C and Jobo processor). Then switched to digital. Now as I've been scanning my old film, I'm finding that I want to try film again. I have some old 35mm cameras that I bought in auctions for the lenses so I'm set for 35mm. Just need medium format camera. I also held on to my film tank so I can still develop! Thanks for sharing your experiences snd knowledge with us!
I have an Agfa Isolette 1, a basic 1950's 6x6 folding viewfinder camera. To get more proficient with it I bought a watameter rangefinder that fits in the cold shoe, but the camera can be set to use as a pojnt and shoot. It was a gift from a dear friend and it gave me a decent start to medium format.
That was my first medium format camera as well. I bought it maybe 10 or 11 years ago and it was lovely to use until I upgraded to 6x4.5. Can't say the lens was too great, though
Another beauty Jim.
@@danem2215 It's a product of the day, simple construction using minimal materials that were still in short supply in Germany during the 50's. I like it.
Great video! It sure is relaxing to watch these types of content while drinking a cup of tea and cuddled up in a warm blanket 😌.
I'm still pretty new to film photography, been shooting 35mm for about 2 years and I finally had the urge to get into medium format! As a college student with not much money to spare, I had to look for alternatives within my budget. My dream camera would probably be the Pentax 67 but I don't think that will ever happen with that crazy high market value, especially now that it has gotten more popular due to UA-camrs and other enthusiasts. Even the Mamiya, Rollei, Yashica TLR's are a bit too much for me. I have a hard time zone focusing so folding cameras aren't really my thing, unless they have a rangefinder system.
So...I found myself a Lomo Lubitel from Ukraine and I can't wait to test it out! It's the first iteration from the 1950's. I don't expect much from it, considering its low build quality and not exactly the sharpest performer out there, but it's start! I know most people find Russian cameras to be clunky and incredibly unreliable, but I still love them anyways. They're a big part of history and I think they're worth a shot!
Josh it does not matter what camera you shoot (we yearn for brands because the marketing people have done their job) a camera is a light tight box, what matters is the lens quality and your skill to capture what you see.
Good luck buddy.
Your Lomo Lubitel will be great fun Joshua and no doubt will give great results. Like the Holga. Not the best quality but is in a class of it's own and has given me some great prints. Enjoy it mate and well done. Hope it works well.
I think the popularity has come back because there is a general interested in film after digital being so dominant for a decade opening the floodgates for new enthusiastic photographers and they now want to try film and look to UA-cam and online resources for a helping hand. I spoke to many old film shooters that literally gave their film gear away back in the mid 2000's when they transferred to digital. They now say they wish they hadn't! Probably because they are seeing their old gear being sold for good money today and I reckon a part of them want to shoot film again fundamentally. These old folders you can get a bargain of you look. I got my second Ikon for £20. For focusing I just use the zone focusing or a little rangefinder that I put on top of the camera on the cold shoe.
Love your video! Zeiss Ikontas and Super Ikontas with Tessar lenses are amazing cameras if they work well. At the beginning is tricky to get used to them but the results are just amazing.
Thanks mate
Hello mate, i watched Peter Edgars video about loading MF film in the spiral. Now its easier then 35mm with his technique of pushing filn on the real rather then realing in normal way
Super video. Yes, medium format is my go to format for landscapes . A few months ago, my Hassy had to be sent out for repair, (4-6) weeks. Now what do I do ? Found a Nikon N70 , 35mmm but missed my Hassy. So off to Ebay. Found a refurbished Super Fujica 6 . I usually shoot with a photograph with a normal lens, so this folder solved my problem. Ran 8 rolls of film through the camera, beautiful images. Paid $80 + shipping. It's a keeper, when i don't want to carry a large medium format camera .
Very cool video and beautiful photos! I watch your channel regularly and I like it very much - it resembles my old cases and confirms that I choose my courses rather well.
I am going towards the medium format along a similar, i.e. budgetary route. I currently have several medium format bellows cameras and one TLR working. On the other hand, my Opemus-5 enlarger allows for a maximum format of 6x6, so for further processing of my photos in the darkroom, I should use the maximum format of 6x6, i.e. my two bellows cameras (Agfa Isolette I and Welta Belfoca II, to which I added a long-lost 6x6 mask thanks to 3D printing - both cameras from the 1950s - and Start-B TLR 6x6 of Polish production from the 1960s. That should be enough to take some really nice photos, but the collector bug could lead to other solutions, but I've already decided to rebuild my darkroom after more than 20 years, despite being allergic to chemicals.
Regards from Poland
Cheers Robert. Best of luck with it
Moving from 35mm to medium format was a revelation, suddenly, no grain, just smooth tones, wonderful.
My only thought was why wasn’t the magazines of the day telling me how good it would be?
Probably waste of a page with most readers not being able to afford one or interested in,,, maybe?
@@ShootFilmLikeaBoss Well, I think for most photographers 35mm was just fine as they didn’t see anything over the size of a postcard and a few slides.
A Yashica 124G was very cheap but big, clumsy and old fashioned to most photographers who wanted at least a Mamiya 645
I shoot 35mm and 120. I have a couple 6x4.5 cameras that i really enjoy using. I like the format since you do get a few more shots.
I love medium format!!! I got my first medium format camera in 1978, a Yashicamat 124G for about 50 quid new back then based on the exchange rate, a pond was double a US dollar!!! I actually find it easier to load 120 film on a Paterson reel than 35mm!!! It's Hyacinth Bucket!!!
"just walking in the woods and taking some shots..." said the guy with a beautiful photographic eye.
ha ha Dora. Nothing inspired me that day but a few I did like after developing which was surprising.
boy Roger do i ever have a story to tell about the Mamiya 6 i bought of of ebay.
I think i will make a short video for you after i get the parts.
Take care Robby.
My only complaint about my 50s folder - a Mamiya VI - is that the nut on the base of the camera for the tripod screw stands proud. So it wiggles too much for a tripod to be of real use. I had to design and 3D print a plate just the right thickness just so it could be more stable.
Brilliant vid! I am waiting to get my first rolls back from the lab shot in my Minolta Autocord (1963). I really enjoy shooting that camera and love both of my Holgas (standard 6x6 and the pinhole panoramic 6x12). Medium format RAWKS!
beautiful work
Thank you so much 😀
I shoot 35mm, medium format and 4x5 large format but the medium format is probably my favorite. It's a good compromise between the 35 and LF, the negative is large enough to give great image quality and the cameras are still quite manageable in size and fast and easy to use compared to LF.
I have a Kiev 88, a Meopta Flexaret V, an old box camera and a King Penguin folder, I mostly use the Kiev and Flexaret which are both great cameras especially for the cost (especially the Flexaret was a bargain, I paid under 100 euroa for it and it's a really good quality camera) but the older ones do have a unique look to their pictures and the folder is nice In that it folds flat to fit into a large pocket.
I find developing medium format even easier than 35 mm, the film is easy to get on the spiral and the large negative is more forgiving of dust and other blemishes.
Interesante video, tengo una Zeiss Ikon Nettar, me encanta.
I have a Mamiya C3 TLR and fell in love with 6x6 too. It's true you really don't have to pay a lot of money to get a great older camera for medium format. I think I paid $200ish for it thinking I'd "try it out" and I haven't been able to put it down. You got some good shots there, great content!
Cheers Tim.
I love medium format. I got a couple of good twin-lens reflexes (TLRs), a tripod, an a cable release, and I'm good to go. Only one lens to use, so something I don't have to worry about. Both my TLRs have built-in light meters; one of them is light-powered so it never needs batteries. My main camera all the way. Only downside is that it attracts attention in public, people are always coming up to me to look at it and talk about how cool-looking my old school camera is. Sometimes I don't mind and enjoy talking to them, but other times I'd rather be unnoticed. No big deal.
Yeah I guess people are interested especially the old school photographers that recognise the camera
LOL, some geezer is asking for £2000.00 for the later version of the Mamiya 6 ( electronic shutter ) on the usual auction site ( he is not the only one BTW ), and he has kindly put in the description " in very good condition, but the camera itself is not tested ". He must be having a laugh. If this madness carries on, I might just go back to digital. Now that rant is over, one of the reasons I like MF photography is that I am limited to 12, 10 and 8 exposures on my 6X6, 6X7 and 6X9 cameras. There is no way that I shoot 36 exposures of any merit with my film cameras. One of the reasons why I love 4X5. I only have to shoot a single sheet of film is the subject warrants it, and not shoot 36 useless exposures. Very good photography Roger. This is exactly what I do when I feel like shooting film. I just take short walk to my local woods or mini nature reserve. I love the way everything changes with each season, and not every shot has to be a work of art. None of that Lake District Malarky for me, even though I am only an hour and half away.
Thats insane. 2K. Need a time machine!
@@ShootFilmLikeaBoss LOL. A while back a couple of guys were asking the equivalent of £6500.00 for a Voigtlander Bessa II with the Apo Lanthar lens. One was in Australia, and the other one in Japan. Covid is not the only pandemic that had befallen us in 2020, film camera madness is another one.
@@lensman5762 I was saying in another comment how a few of my friends gave most of their film gear away when digi came about in mid 2000s. Kicking themselves now.
@@ShootFilmLikeaBoss Indeed Roger. I also follow Steve Onion's. He did the same when digital took over, then he went back to film, and according to himself he had to buy what he had sold at many times the price. In my case, I sold most of my Medium format and large format gear in the late 80s for a song to a dealer. It included a full Bronica ETRs system with full array of lenses and accessories, Mamiya C330 system with full array of lenses and accessories and all my large format stuff including a beautiful 300 mm F9 Rodenstock Geronar. I looked up the price of it a while back, a used one and not a new one BTW, and I almost chocked. I am just stupid, sadly.
Medium format is my favorite format. I'm particular, I'm partial to 6x9. The same aspect ratio as 35mm (3:2), but a much larger negative to work with. The disadvantage is that very few labs can do 6x9 scans without cropping. It may become worth it for me to get an Epson v600 to scan my 6x9 uncropped. But the sheer amount of detail is incredible. The only downside is, 8 shots per roll.
I've never shot 6x7 or 9.
@@ShootFilmLikeaBoss I personally love 6*9. At first it's a bit disorienting to see the long side do much longer than the short side, almost makes you think it's a short panorama. But it's something for me that puts me on the edge of large format without having to actually deal with lab costs. I'm allergic to sulfur, so the developing process makes me break out in hives. Also, more information per negative means a lot of detail can be pulled from it. Think 35mm on steroids when shooting it. It's quite a lot of fun.
My 6*9 camera of choice is either a 620 MEDALIST II, or my Kodak brownie no.2. both are fun for different reasons. Got videos of both on my channel
Jason
@@ganzonomy cool. Subbed. Cheers
@@ShootFilmLikeaBoss thanks!!!
@@ShootFilmLikeaBoss now that you are shooting 4x5 LF, see if you can borrow a 6x9 roll film back to give it a try. This is how I shoot 6x9.
Your videos are always very interesting and once again I am not disappointed! Thank you very much 😊🤝
Thank you very much!
Ha! I have the exact same camera - a Mamiya six Automat. I originally wanted the model that could switch between 6x6 and 6x4.5, but couldn't find a working one for a decent price, so I went for the 6x6 automat. It's a cracking camera with a very nice Zuiko lens, but I think it might need a service. The automatic shutter cocking mechanism doesn't really work, so I have to close the bellows when winding on and cock the shutter manually. Also, I think that the shutter speeds are a bit slow, as I've shot slide film on it that often comes out overexposed with washed out highlights. I need to find a reliable repair person in the UK that works on folders.
Nice pics as always, btw.
I think my slower speeds are off also. No problem as long as I know
I got a Yashica A a few months ago and loved MF so much that I just blew a ton of money on a Mamiya RB67 which comes tomorrow!
You'll love it. Enjoy!
i have mostly transitioned to MF from 35 when not shooting large format - this past weekend while out and about I finished off a roll of 35 that had been in a rangefinder for a while and also shot a roll of 6x6 - once they were developed and hung to dry I had to laugh - i could clearly see the details in the 120 negative but had to get a magnifier to inspect the 35mm LOL -
Ha ha same here Rick
I have the opposite problem when you get bored after 10 shots or so. I get antsy if I have any left. I try to use the whole thing at once. The best part of film was the slow-down, but I've just been speeding up, especially with the Bronica. Not every frame counts as much when you don't have to work so hard to make it perfect.
Great video! 😊👍🏻
Thank you! Cheers!
Great episode. I think you did a great and enjoyable video introducing the medium format. I have many of them. My two favorites are my folder Zeiss Ikonta 6x9 and the beast my Mamiya RB67. The Zeiss is SO handy and that 6x9 negative so useful (actually also put 35mm in it). Thanks for doing this one.
Glad you enjoyed it! I must try and get a 6x9. I can't print them but be fun
Do all enlargers take 120 & 35mm film? Maybe you could do a video on where to start buying a used enlarger? Love your videos, thanks for posting.
Not all enlargers. My first enlarger was only for 35mm. And my present enlarger only takes up to 6x6.
I think that unsharpness is called buckey(pronounced: Bouqueh) 😂
It's finally sunny in the Netherlands, time to expose some film. I want to finish some rolls.
Hi Rodger great blog can you tell me which woods you were in please looks great want to go out this weekend for a roam great information on m/format 👍👍
Borthwood copse Paul
Hey now! You forgot my favorite - my GW680 - 6x8 format! Perfect for my favorite 18x24 prints;) Another great video with some classic photos.
I was saying elsewhere I didn't think 6x8 was popular. Must be ! Lol
@@ShootFilmLikeaBoss Tis' a rare beastie, you're right. I was just laughing when you flashed the summary of formats though, because I'd popped off the last frame of a roll 10 minutes prior:) I'm anxious to see the results, as Delta 3200 is new to me and I used a new keks meter too. Cheers and thanks!
I did say "Most popular cameras" lol
Stepping up from 35mm to mf is such a satisfying experience. Suddenly you have a glorious and large negative to play with. My vote goes to delta 400 and the 50s folding cameras - great film, great cameras.
My film adventure pt 2 started in 2017 with a holga, so I actually developed medium format before I developed my first 35mm film. I do still prefer working with medium format to working with 35mm. I find it easier in all ways, and I often get bored with the long 35mm rolls and end up wasting shots.
Me too Espen. Mind you, I still bulk load a 30 or so roll lol, don't know why!
Some medium format cameras manage to cram in an "extra" frame. My konica pearl III give 16 shots of 645, and the Pentacon six/Praktisix gives me 13 frames of 6x6.
I never knew that Bryce.
The kodak 66 is cheap as chips and out of the 2 models, (model 2 and 3) the model 3 has better features than the zeiss but you'll get a mint one for under £30. OK it's not built as well as the zeiss but it's a great wee starter 6x6 camera.
Biggest hassle for me has always been loading the film onto the reel. I haven't a proper darkroom, so I'm stuck using a dark bag, which is a bit cramped.
I understand. I used to load under a bed duvet!
Shooting medium format doesn't necessarily mean spending big cash on Hasselblad or Contax kit. A 6x6 or 6x9 (which I have) folding cameras usually are cheap, usually can be found under $200 (some sophisticated 35mm SLR can be more expensive than that). The only downside, I think, it's not suitable for fast action like street photography, where you constantly move looking for interesting moments.
True Andre.
Lovely shots Roger. When Im looking on the bay for Mamiya 6...its crazy. ++++Exc, mint and what not, and the leatherette is falling apart,rust on the metal parts...arent people little bit greedy bastards? 😂😂😂
Yeah I keep clear of them Danny. Then a shiny one comes along! I think most sell them thinking they will be turned into a lamp
Is that a Mamiya 6 Automat?
9:08 what medium format frame is that?
12:03 I like this!
that was a 6x6 in the carrier Jacky. And yes probably my fav out of the selection and all I did was spin around.
I tried medium format with a Zeiss Ikon Ikonta M. I loved the ONLY ten pictures i made with that camera… after the first roll the shutter was broken
Find a repairer local to you, it should live again.
@@ajbrennan6456 we tried everything… the camera is unuseable
@@oackgourmandi6061 that sucks worth trying to find another though.
Bummer! How much did it cost?
@@ShootFilmLikeaBoss 80 euros.
I don't shoot 35mm film anymore. To me, it is not worth the effort, what I can do with 35mm I can do better and cheaper with my Olympus Pen-F. But more often than with the Pen-F I shoot with analog medium and large format cameras. I haven't seen a digital camera yet which could emulate the look and feel of pictures derived from old cameras in those formats. Among others I have an Olympus Chrome Six with the f 2.8 lens, which I actually prefer over the Mamiya Six. But the Mamiya is definitely one of the better options of this type of camera.
Quick question... On the ikon nettar what speed does the flash sync at, I've connected via the pc socket a electronic flash and it fire's OK, but I'm at a loss as to what speed I should use to sync, am I correct in thinking that because its a leaf shutter it will sync at any speed?
Yes. There is no curtain. I've never used flash with it.
@@ShootFilmLikeaBoss I gave it a try tonight, hooked the connection up via sync cord to a hotshoe adapter with a neewer flash on top fireing though a shoot through, and another flash (optical) and shoot through at the other side of the room, success, worked perfectly at 1/100 'sec
How are you getting on with the pyro? Your negs look beautiful. Are you agitating or letting it stand?
Semi stand. Yeah I'm liking it. Getting good results.
@@ShootFilmLikeaBoss excellent I’ll give it a go
When I started in 1951 us schoolboys could afford only 'Medium Format ; anyway -- Ha Ha ! My one was my Mum's 1930's Kodak Hawkeye Box Camera taking 8 on 120 and I used to cycle 5 miles to a wonderful 'Emporium' called 'Marston & Heards' Leytonstone East London were the 'ancient Proprietor' would blow the DUST off all manner of ex- Government Film and paper and I would spend 6 Old Pence ( 2.5 New Pence) on a roll of Ex-RAF film with a curl like a watch spring leaving me with 2 Shillings ( 10 New Pence) out of my Pocket Money ! you had to be RICH to have a 35mm camera !
Ha ha, always an interesting read Pete.
You missed 6 X 8.
Typical human...pointing out error. But not the good....bravo
It's not most popular. Like 12, 17 and 24. Or is it popular? I don't think I've cove across a 6x8?
@@ShootFilmLikeaBoss Fuji made a 6X8.
I've never come across one. I will see 6x8 all the time now sods law.