The strings and synths on the YC61 are freaking amazing.alot more warmer and full than the nord. Both standout with certain features and certain sounds
To my ears, the Yamaha sounds much better. Understand that it is a matter of personal preference, but I like the sound, and control layout, much better, on the YC61.
With these kinds of sounds it is no longer about who is „better“. They are both really good with these patches - it’s more about EQ, Effects, etc. In a live Situation anything goes - it‘s a matter of settings and - honestly - taste. In the mix you can do wonders. Jack - you da man.
As you said, neither one is really outstanding as a synth, but the Yamaha sounds better and is much more expressive. Not having pitch bend and mod on the Nord makes it useless for synth solos.
Torben Anschau There is not a difference between the Nord Piano,Electro,Stage and Grand in terms of sounds. They can have any sound from the Nord piano library/Sample Library. The cool thing with the Stage line up is that it has sample playback so you can put your own samples in. And ProjectSam strings for the Nord should have been a better match up it’s just the fact that the Nord doesn’t have multiple layers which sucks but I got use to it. You won’t really notice.
The Nord clearly sounds like my E-Mu EIV at the time, after loading the “raw” sound from CD-ROM. Don’t know if I like that nowadays in a Stage Keyboard that I want to play instantly without lots of tweaking & tuning…
You said (when talking about the filter options) that there were 'bigger brothers' and hence they had cut down on options. Now for Nord I know, Nord Stage 3 is the 'bigger brother' with more options. But what stage piano is the bigger brother of the YC series? I mean, the Montage has more options, but that is a workstation / synth and not a stage piano. The YP is even more limited, so I wonder what that would be.
I am torn between the Nord 6D & the Yc61 Yamaha….. ive been watching your shootouts for months narrowing it down lol…. I bought my last Keyboard a while back after watching a video you did on the 61 Roland V Combo which I love. Im gonna double stack for Reggae music…..ive always wanted a Nord that you can always update your sounds but the YC has the pitch bend & great sounds out the box… any thoughts?
Yamaha for me this time!(experienced user of) You may find that you can send the Filter Cut off to the mod wheel,much better way IMO.Good video, I think both are superb machines,but sometimes it comes to affordability too! Nord is slightly cheaper
Very helpful video thanks as I'm in the process if trying to decide between the NE6 and the YC73 as we speak. Cheers👍 The scales are tipped slightly to the Yamaha at the moment but I haven't tried it in the flesh yet.
Yep, for me this is the only one the three comparisons where the Yamaha wins - and it wins easily. But in the organ and piano sounds the Nord is a clear winner. Agree wholeheartedly about the wiggle stick 'n' mod wheel. I mean, what on earth do you do with your left hand?
Typically the Nords come out the box with a few high quality piano samples and the synth ones are usually low(er) quality. I'd recommend diving into their sample library and listen to the high-quality samples before judging too much.
I never really understood wether the Nord Library contains real multisamples other than the piano stuff cause I read otherwise. If not - would it be possible to send well made multisamples into the Piano-Section?
User sample sets can use multiple sounds across the keyboard, but not velocity multi-samples. Additionally, there is no way to create a user Piano-category sample set - only Nord can create those.
Another important consideration with both instruments is that the Yamaha will make a much better midi controller with its pitch and mod sticks as well as its inputs and audio interface capability. Both cover the piano, EP, and organ stuff well but if you wanted to augment them with a module or a computer, the YC crushes the Nord.
Ok so after comparing both keyboards in depth for 2 weeks, one big difference that all your videos fail to point out is the range of synth/"other"/general midi sounds. the nord electro absolutely shines here. just one fact nord has 15 ish AUTHENTIC mellotron/chamberlin sounds, where the yamaha has 2 really bad FAKE ones. 3-4 electronic yamaha basses vs. maybe 10 on the nord. mallets, flutes etc etc you name it, nord leaves yamaha in the dust. and not that its about sheer numbers, the quality, tastefulness and usability of the nord sounds is far ahead. plus as others mentioned, nord lets you even load your own samples. adding to this the bigger variety in piano and epiano sounds (6 nord uprights vs. one on the yamaha), nord clearly wins in the choice and number of source sounds, while the yamaha really shines on a much more modern and flexible architechture/signal flow, much better effetcs and better UI controls. so. after two weeks i am still not sure which one to keep ugh.
@@simonbeck7446 I got frustrated with the NE6, it just couldn't get that zany, and the sample manipulation is way too limited - but then I guess these stage keys are aimed at 'bread and butter' players, not sound designers.
@@museonfilm8919 - I was never under any illusions regarding the capabilities of the Electro 6-D - I had already owned an Electro 3 73 for eight years, using it primarily for Wurlitzer, organ and Mellotron sounds. I also have an assortment of synths including semi-modular and polyphonic ones, so I wouldn't generally use the Nord for synth sounds anyway. Over the years, Nord themselves have gradually blurred the lines regarding the Electro's role; it started as an unambiguous "virtual electromechanical" electric piano and organ, but has evolved into a general-purpose piano/organ/ROMpler, albeit one of the finest available. It was never intended to replace a synth, and perhaps Nord hasn't made that fact clear enough.
Hmm, I hadn't thought about the capability on the Nord to load your OWN samples....i figured it was just the library. This means I could make samples with my monosynth, and then play those sounds as a polysynth by the Electro, right? Is own-sample loading limited to single-sample sounds?
Late answer but: you can have samples over different zones of the keyboard, but you cannot have velocity layers. At least on the Nord Stage 2. I don't know if they changed that on the Nord Stage 3, but I'd doubt it.
The Yamaha wins this round - no question. It "loses" in the fact that you can't load your own samples, but then you might want to get a different keyboard for that anyway. These things are great for the gal or guy who plays in a band and just has to play mainly Pianos, EPs, Organs. The "synth" sounds are a great add-on for when you need them, but are not the main thing they were intended to do.
Nord sounds dryer... Yamaha comes with a "produced" overall sound... Anyway, it's pretty diffficult to judge a synth by its strings and brass sounds... To achieve good results, I typically stack very different sounds, and something tells me that stacking the brass of both the Yam and Nord could produce quite a good result... By layering Montage, Kronos and FA, I come up with pretty decent brass or strings sounds... Prophet X gives good results too, but its memory is too limited for an efficient multisampling with several articulations... I think that in terms of realism, the future is audiomodeling's SWAM architecture in hardware synths or a sort of hardware kontakt... Pair it with a Roli seaboard for a perfect combo... This is the problem when you're the synth guy... You're supposed to play a perfect realistic violin with keys... :D
I mean... romplers? You press one key repeatedly, you don't hear repeating of a note, but rather repeating of a recording. Chromatically tuned ethnic instruments?! And you do a pitchbend that sounds unnatural as hell! That kind of a vibrato on a solo trumpet... how do you like it? Okay, it's layered, and each key has it's own samples, so there are no unnatural formants and transpozed resonances, (you are going to sample HH's Chameleon synth and create own patch on-the-fly?) but still definitely not my piece of cake.
The strings and synths on the YC61 are freaking amazing.alot more warmer and full than the nord. Both standout with certain features and certain sounds
I like both keyboards, but the YC-61 is intriguing to my ears. Love your demo's.
After the first videos with the Korg as well I was drawn to either the Nord or Yamaha, but after this I think the Yamaha takes it.
Yea especially for the money!
Nope.
To my ears, the Yamaha sounds much better.
Understand that it is a matter of personal preference, but I like the sound, and control layout, much better, on the YC61.
By a long way.
User samples….. just sayin.
With these kinds of sounds it is no longer about who is „better“. They are both really good with these patches - it’s more about EQ, Effects, etc. In a live Situation anything goes - it‘s a matter of settings and - honestly - taste. In the mix you can do wonders. Jack - you da man.
I still love the Nord for its library of sounds, but I miss the modulator...🙃
As you said, neither one is really outstanding as a synth, but the Yamaha sounds better and is much more expressive. Not having pitch bend and mod on the Nord makes it useless for synth solos.
That's why they have the stage in program which of course costs more. Maybe the Stage would have been the better comparison to the Yamaha anyways.
Torben Anschau There is not a difference between the Nord Piano,Electro,Stage and Grand in terms of sounds. They can have any sound from the Nord piano library/Sample Library. The cool thing with the Stage line up is that it has sample playback so you can put your own samples in. And ProjectSam strings for the Nord should have been a better match up it’s just the fact that the Nord doesn’t have multiple layers which sucks but I got use to it. You won’t really notice.
Oh, by the way. Jack, you are insanely talented bro! 🔥🔥🔥
Gotta love that expensive double keyboard stand!
I have a Subharmonicon and it is a keyboard stand compared to these thousands of dollars stage monsters
Hey bro....! Its been 2 weeks and i am still excited everytime i use my fp30! Ahaha....keep making videos!....watching from the Philippines....! \m/
Man, that last bit with the shakuhachi and the weird piano... You need to make that into a synthwave track, mate!
The Nord clearly sounds like my E-Mu EIV at the time, after loading the “raw” sound from CD-ROM. Don’t know if I like that nowadays in a Stage Keyboard that I want to play instantly without lots of tweaking & tuning…
You said (when talking about the filter options) that there were 'bigger brothers' and hence they had cut down on options. Now for Nord I know, Nord Stage 3 is the 'bigger brother' with more options. But what stage piano is the bigger brother of the YC series?
I mean, the Montage has more options, but that is a workstation / synth and not a stage piano. The YP is even more limited, so I wonder what that would be.
I am torn between the Nord 6D & the Yc61 Yamaha….. ive been watching your shootouts for months narrowing it down lol…. I bought my last Keyboard a while back after watching a video you did on the 61 Roland V Combo which I love. Im gonna double stack for Reggae music…..ive always wanted a Nord that you can always update your sounds but the YC has the pitch bend & great sounds out the box… any thoughts?
And now the Hammond SK Pro has a mono synth. Not sure why they didn't go poly.
That A1 the Prophet preset is amazing (9:48). What Dave-Smith (Prophet) synth is this from?
Yamaha sounds more fuller, except for the pads.
The A1 is Nord’s virtual analogue synth, so this is not from a real DSI/Sequential analogue synth.
Where is that on the video?
@@davebellamy4867 9:48
Yamaha for me this time!(experienced user of) You may find that you can send the Filter Cut off to the mod wheel,much better way IMO.Good video, I think both are superb machines,but sometimes it comes to affordability too! Nord is slightly cheaper
can you do the ep's please?
I didn’t know that Moog made synth stands…oh wait!
It is like I am in my own studio. Trust Anderton’s to make me feel right at home.
Very helpful video thanks as I'm in the process if trying to decide between the NE6 and the YC73 as we speak. Cheers👍
The scales are tipped slightly to the Yamaha at the moment but I haven't tried it in the flesh yet.
In 7:59, how is the synth sample called?
The “wiggle stick” FTW! 😀 great video Jack! Hope thing are tight with Gabrielle!
Yep, for me this is the only one the three comparisons where the Yamaha wins - and it wins easily. But in the organ and piano sounds the Nord is a clear winner. Agree wholeheartedly about the wiggle stick 'n' mod wheel. I mean, what on earth do you do with your left hand?
And why was the Nord so noisy with that celeste-Sample?
Typically the Nords come out the box with a few high quality piano samples and the synth ones are usually low(er) quality. I'd recommend diving into their sample library and listen to the high-quality samples before judging too much.
I never really understood wether the Nord Library contains real multisamples other than the piano stuff cause I read otherwise. If not - would it be possible to send well made multisamples into the Piano-Section?
User sample sets can use multiple sounds across the keyboard, but not velocity multi-samples. Additionally, there is no way to create a user Piano-category sample set - only Nord can create those.
Great comparison. Thank you.
Another important consideration with both instruments is that the Yamaha will make a much better midi controller with its pitch and mod sticks as well as its inputs and audio interface capability. Both cover the piano, EP, and organ stuff well but if you wanted to augment them with a module or a computer, the YC crushes the Nord.
Why only 61keys? wheres the 73 version? Come on Yamaha...
they have arrived...88 too
YC73 is not semi-weight
No mod wheel or pitch bend on the Nord?!?
This needs to be updated now.
The end was so worth watching the whole video, I would sound terrible with that shakuhachi sample but you of course sound amazing
Ok so after comparing both keyboards in depth for 2 weeks, one big difference that all your videos fail to point out is the range of synth/"other"/general midi sounds. the nord electro absolutely shines here. just one fact nord has 15 ish AUTHENTIC mellotron/chamberlin sounds, where the yamaha has 2 really bad FAKE ones. 3-4 electronic yamaha basses vs. maybe 10 on the nord. mallets, flutes etc etc you name it, nord leaves yamaha in the dust. and not that its about sheer numbers, the quality, tastefulness and usability of the nord sounds is far ahead. plus as others mentioned, nord lets you even load your own samples. adding to this the bigger variety in piano and epiano sounds (6 nord uprights vs. one on the yamaha), nord clearly wins in the choice and number of source sounds, while the yamaha really shines on a much more modern and flexible architechture/signal flow, much better effetcs and better UI controls. so. after two weeks i am still not sure which one to keep ugh.
The fact I can use the Yamaha great live, but then use ANY VST with either actually supports Yamaha for me.
Please, show more about the YC piano sounds and ep, effects and layers. If it's possible tell us about this piano key touch. 🎹🎹🔥🔥🔥
Anderson Gonçalves Pereira he has done another video about that.
Does either of these keyboards have a real synth section? Or are they both only ROMplers with limited filter and envelope settings?
The latter.
@@simonbeck7446
I got frustrated with the NE6, it just couldn't get that zany, and the sample manipulation is way too limited - but then I guess these stage keys are aimed at 'bread and butter' players, not sound designers.
@@museonfilm8919 - I was never under any illusions regarding the capabilities of the Electro 6-D - I had already owned an Electro 3 73 for eight years, using it primarily for Wurlitzer, organ and Mellotron sounds. I also have an assortment of synths including semi-modular and polyphonic ones, so I wouldn't generally use the Nord for synth sounds anyway.
Over the years, Nord themselves have gradually blurred the lines regarding the Electro's role; it started as an unambiguous "virtual electromechanical" electric piano and organ, but has evolved into a general-purpose piano/organ/ROMpler, albeit one of the finest available.
It was never intended to replace a synth, and perhaps Nord hasn't made that fact clear enough.
Cual tiene más calidad el Yc61,o el Nord...
Where do you buy your gears (keyboard )!??
He works in a music store,geez.
Bring on the Dux!
bruh that brass 1 patch on the yamaha was fuckin lush
Yamaha is on top love how everything sounds very realistic
If those 2 boards would only get married and have a kid, it would be the best of both worlds. A big seller!
Hmm, I hadn't thought about the capability on the Nord to load your OWN samples....i figured it was just the library. This means I could make samples with my monosynth, and then play those sounds as a polysynth by the Electro, right? Is own-sample loading limited to single-sample sounds?
Late answer but: you can have samples over different zones of the keyboard, but you cannot have velocity layers.
At least on the Nord Stage 2. I don't know if they changed that on the Nord Stage 3, but I'd doubt it.
If only the Nord the bend and mod controls , too bad , maybe they’ll get it right the 7th try but I doubt it
good comparison
Giant battle
Which is ok if you can’t control it anyway because these days everyone has a laptop
I feel the Yamaha is thicker and warmer
Nord Electro?
Synth?
I really want one of these. I yamaha has so many neat features but the nord just looks so damn cool with the red color
The Yamaha wins this round - no question. It "loses" in the fact that you can't load your own samples, but then you might want to get a different keyboard for that anyway. These things are great for the gal or guy who plays in a band and just has to play mainly Pianos, EPs, Organs. The "synth" sounds are a great add-on for when you need them, but are not the main thing they were intended to do.
Those other sounds I would just get from a Soft Synth anyways.
Would like to see how Vox stands up in this group
That outro!! 😂
Nord sounds dryer... Yamaha comes with a "produced" overall sound...
Anyway, it's pretty diffficult to judge a synth by its strings and brass sounds... To achieve good results, I typically stack very different sounds, and something tells me that stacking the brass of both the Yam and Nord could produce quite a good result... By layering Montage, Kronos and FA, I come up with pretty decent brass or strings sounds...
Prophet X gives good results too, but its memory is too limited for an efficient multisampling with several articulations...
I think that in terms of realism, the future is audiomodeling's SWAM architecture in hardware synths or a sort of hardware kontakt... Pair it with a Roli seaboard for a perfect combo...
This is the problem when you're the synth guy... You're supposed to play a perfect realistic violin with keys... :D
Oof. The brass sounds are all a bit cheesio on both.
nord!
that specific yamaha keyboard sounds softer but more realistic to the real acoustic instruments.But nord is more impressive but seems like artificial.
lol the yamaha sitting on a subharmonicon
I mean... romplers? You press one key repeatedly, you don't hear repeating of a note, but rather repeating of a recording. Chromatically tuned ethnic instruments?! And you do a pitchbend that sounds unnatural as hell! That kind of a vibrato on a solo trumpet... how do you like it?
Okay, it's layered, and each key has it's own samples, so there are no unnatural formants and transpozed resonances, (you are going to sample HH's Chameleon synth and create own patch on-the-fly?) but still definitely not my piece of cake.
Yamaha is Better
That was hardly any synth sounds.
Typical from this guy.
He talks too much