No offense meant. I'm impressed. It's just amazing for me. Every video..oh I spent a thousand here or 16 grand here for this equipment etc. I couldn't sleep at night doing that.. I guess that's why I don't farm like you. I'm looking at the world through my eyes I guess. I'm glad your videos are here for folks interested to learn..keep up the good work.
It's amazing to see how much your tires have worn down on the 8120 in the last year. From watching the pto repair series and looking back. She gets used!
I was wondering if you have ever run into a problem on a john deer that the PTO lever when you push it down to engage. It will just lift back up on its own. if you hold the lever down it will engage and turn but if you let it go it just lifts back up and out of engagement. i actually used it like this for a little while now by just tying a rope on it to hold it in position. its not hard to keep it there but just wont stay on its own. I have 5325 john deer. its just used for shredding. thanks in advance for talking the time to read my comment.
I know it was awhile back but what was the turn out on the building you had built? With the huge upstairs? An updated video of the farm would be nice. A slow drive thru?
last week, dad told me to go do this on our 8300 and sadly it only has 1000, our 8320 too. our only equipment with 540 is our loader (JD 950) and our IH 766
on older JD models there were/are 2 PTO shafts. (Lots of 4020s being used as utility tractors replacing the IHC Farmall Super Ms). One spare was stuck into a hole in the side of the housing. The gear box is wet so the easiest way to change it was to drive the nose of the tractor down into a roadside ditch and then swap the shafts out after goosing them heavily with the starting fluid to knock the grease and dirt off the parts.
One thing IH did right was make a two speed pto that you didn't have to change. Just hook it up and go. All brand are good. We're just red cause that JD deal said they would be out next week to see what we have for trade. That was 40 yeArs ago and we haven't seen him yet.
My JD 5220 has an "economy" PTO. It's basically just a 2-speed PTO. It runs 640 at 2600 engine rpm and when you shift to "economy" mode you the 640 pto rpm at 1700 engine rpm. It really does save a lot of fuel when you're running a smaller implement.
The new tractors you have to demo all of them if you can. One might fit your needs more than another. I never have said the top brands suck. It will be interesting to see what improvements they will make now that they have met emission standards.
We had a John Deere 8200 on the farm I was working on here in Germany. We put an adapter to 540 on the PTO cause here all gear is running on 540s. And boy that adapter was twisted. I like your opinion bout John Deere. In Germany they are almost every year on place one of the registration charts.. But why u are running such a little sprayer on such a big tractor?
Mack Thompson Maybe in the us this the way to go, in germany its no matter, 540 or 1000 rpm, 99% use the 6 spline. I think this changeable driveshafts are relicts from really old days, even my old Fendt from 69` have a gear shift for the pto.
Mack Thompson Belive it or not my front mower run with 1000 rpm and use a standard 1 3/8" 6 spline driveshaft, my rear mower ist actually adjusted for 540 rpm because i prefer that, but it can be adjustet for 1000 rpm and us still the same driveshaft. I know in some countries the 21 spline is very common, but not here in germany. Big machines like tripple mowers or big balers use bigger 1 3/4" driveshafts, but mostly also with 6 splines, sometimes the 20 splines variant which you can see in the video. It is not possible to change out the pto driveshaft on my tractors without taking down the complette transmission, more modern tractors especially in higer hp classes have this opportunity.
Here in sweden we have 6 spline for almost everything both balers, manurespreaders, mowers, tripplemowers and also liquidmanurespreaders. That is on fendt 936, NH T8050, Fendt 924 and so on every tractor that I have driven has used 6 spline on both 540 and 1000 and that we change inside the cab.
wonder why JD uses this elaborate type of switching from 540/1000. others have two pto axils,or a lever in the cab for switching. even my old zetor 6045 got a lever in the cab ;)
That looks like great grease! Just curious, does that sprayer pump require a lot of HP to run? Just wondering why you're using the big 7000 and 8000 series JDs to spray with. Those sprayer wheel repairs turned out great...cant even tell they were modified.
the pto shaft is slid on and there is a spring loaded pin (button or collar)) that keeps it on the splines, there is a universal joint about 5" behind the shaft
don't you just love the so called proprietary parts program some companies come up with. you could call ARP and see about bolts or studs for it. BTW wes what is the name / manufacturer of that grease???
Hello... I have a question.. I own a JD 2850... it has a lever next to the seat to change to 540 rpm to 1000 rpm, but its that enought? Or Have to Flip the shaft anyway?
I have been wondering, snd I don't mean to pry but why ise the 8120 when you have that fancy 4960 you fixed up? It just seems like you could keep your cost lower running the 4960 instead. I'm just curious, and don't mean to offend.
To save wes the trouble, he uses the 8120 because he already has it set up to run his sprayer, to use the 4960 he would need to make another bracket to mount the monitor on to and a few other things of that nature, the 8120 has a nicer more sealed cab then the soundgard cabs like whats on the 4960 too, also I'd figure the 8120 is probably more fuel efficient then the 4960, being modern running common rail injection and the such even though their power levels are similar
I was thinking why spend the hundred grand or more on a new tractor when he had one that will do the work. I het he bought it whilst the 4960 was burned up. Why not trade it for that new windrower plus the old case. Probably be straight across the board on price.
The 8120 rides way better than the 4960, has a higher top speed for moving from field to field, and the 8120 is more fuel efficient. I own an 8120 and used to have a 4960. If I had to choose between the two the 8120 would win out every time. Oh, the 8120 has fingertip controls for the hydraulics rather than having to use levers.
Justin James I guess Wes is the only one that could answer that, but yea he did say he bought the 8120 as a replacement for the 4960 when it burnt, I figure he probably thought the 4960 was done for at the time but he managed to save it, if it was me I'd be happy to have a backup tractor ready to go if he needs it, say the 8120 takes a shit baling hay in the middle of summer with 400 acres ready to bale and a monsoon is coming a few days later, instead of being totally screwed since he has no other tractor that can handle his current baler safely except maybe the 5020, he can retrofit the 4960 to accept his baler and run it until the 8120 is back up and running again, not to mention it can take up some of the work the 8120 would have to do that much less hours on it, I'd say its pretty smart the way he runs his farm personally
I think europe is more AGCO Fendt, Massey Ferguson, Valtra than new holland..... But AGCO also has really really expensive parts.... John Deere is also slowly taking the european market..... For example we have 8 John Deere's and one old Renault haha, renault is now Claas...
JD has top sales in a lot of areas as guys have been brainwashed into thinking if it don't have green tin and yellow wheels it's not a tractor , combine or implement they will run or lack of other brand dealer support close by. I Have been to a few places and run other brands against green and it's pee'd all over it. But guys won't change as grandpa was a green guy, they wouldn't even demo something else there. if some guys got more money than brains have at it. I fix older Deere's and the prices are stupid for some parts, and 30 year old stuffs getting more unreliable, most of it with hyd or trans problems now or the odd messed up motor. The new stuffs not much better either. for cost if you need the dealer to fix any of it! . in 5 to 10 years my repair shop will be done with protected computer and electronic stuff that's dealer only or obsolete parts as is happening now .
super6954 Wait, what there are tractors out there that don't have green with yellow on them....? Impossible - Go Green or Go Home! Now if you excuse I'm going to go use a red tractor because green is too expensive!
RDAllen LOL yeah hard to believe isn't it, I got a blue 6400 valtra here I was just doing my chores with. It was cheaper than a 64 type series Deere with half as many hours again. The valtra will still be working hard when the Deeres done, from all the worn out high hour ones I looked at for 45-$60.000! they needed tires or other work to be in the same condition as the valtra was. My only problem with the Valtra is Agco own it now :(
plenty of lube when you stick it in lol lube wins hands down. i missed having your live link today but then summer is coming its all busy busy busy. great vid.
A van Seijen The simple answer is no. 750 just runs the tractor engine slower to produce 540. For the most part 540 and 1000 RPM PTO shafts (the part that runs from the equipment to the tractor) have different spline counts. Unless you turn the PTO stub around they wouldn't fit. As Wes mentioned in the video kinda it is to prevent you from accidentally running a 540 piece of equipment at 1000 RPM or 1000 at 540.
awd3264 most modern tractors have a lever or switch in cab to switch between 540 and 1000.you dont have to switch the shaft at back of tractor and the pto shaft on machines are mostly the ones with the big splines but you can make mistakes.One time i took trailed forage harvester[it ran at 1000rpm] of tractor and put a pasture topper [540rpm] on and forgot to change lever in cab and made shit of a gearbox on topper.it was a MF6480
mrhorsepower150 Where did I say there wasn't a switch or lever in the cab to change PTO speeds? I didn't. Many modern tractors closing into at least 100HP or above have them. That never was in question. I really was trying to explain why you might need to do more than just flip a switch when it is required to change the speed of the PTO stub shaft coming out of the tractor.
Mack Thompson no they dont.Most modern machines have the 6 spline shaft,doesnt matter which pto speed they are.You just shift the lever or button to 540 or 1000 in the cab.As i said i have 540 and 1000 rpm machines with 6spline shafts
awd3264 ok i see that now.its just handier to have all the shafts 6 spline if you have the switch in cab to change between 540 and 1000 but as you said mistakes can be made when you do that
Hi. If you have any issues related to metric stuff or your sprayer ( Hardi is made in denmark ), just let me know.I have lots of connections and I can get anything... 😊Hans.
John Deer does not suck. They're a good solid dependable tractor. However, from what I've been seeing in your videos, I feel it's safe to say that John Deers customer service habits do indeed suck.
That's way too big for the sprayer you pull. I run a 6150r (a bit smaller than the 7530) on a navigator 6000 that hauls 1650 us gals. Works great with isobus and greenstar
you sing the praises of john deere and i am all about buying american but everytime you mention the price of a piece of equipment no matter how small it is $200.00 to $20000 dollars.what they are charging you and other farmers is pure profit for john deere and in the end the farmer has to pass the loss onto the customer.if john deere was really proud of their product and their country they would not screw over farmers and people with smaller tractors who just use them for everyday use around the property.
jhon deere sux even if thay sel more tractors thay break faster about the pto not cool to take it out to chance it to watever speed but i love ur video,s tho
No offense meant. I'm impressed. It's just amazing for me. Every video..oh I spent a thousand here or 16 grand here for this equipment etc. I couldn't sleep at night doing that.. I guess that's why I don't farm like you. I'm looking at the world through my eyes I guess. I'm glad your videos are here for folks interested to learn..keep up the good work.
It's amazing to see how much your tires have worn down on the 8120 in the last year. From watching the pto repair series and looking back. She gets used!
Wes great video, I really like how your sprayer wheels turned out. The fresh paint really looks nice. again great video.
Mack Thompson get a life
Your good people Wes making great videos, keep up the good work. Good luck for 2015 planting season!!!
Great video. Need to do daily videos as yours are my favourite on UA-cam.
I was wondering if you have ever run into a problem on a john deer that the PTO lever when you push it down to engage. It will just lift back up on its own. if you hold the lever down it will engage and turn but if you let it go it just lifts back up and out of engagement. i actually used it like this for a little while now by just tying a rope on it to hold it in position. its not hard to keep it there but just wont stay on its own. I have 5325 john deer. its just used for shredding. thanks in advance for talking the time to read my comment.
Thanks for answering my question, makes sense now! Keep up the great videos!
I know it was awhile back but what was the turn out on the building you had built? With the huge upstairs? An updated video of the farm would be nice. A slow drive thru?
last week, dad told me to go do this on our 8300 and sadly it only has 1000, our 8320 too. our only equipment with 540 is our loader (JD 950) and our IH 766
on older JD models there were/are 2 PTO shafts. (Lots of 4020s being used as utility tractors replacing the IHC Farmall Super Ms). One spare was stuck into a hole in the side of the housing. The gear box is wet so the easiest way to change it was to drive the nose of the tractor down into a roadside ditch and then swap the shafts out after goosing them heavily with the starting fluid to knock the grease and dirt off the parts.
Randy J Exactly, Randy J !Up until the introduction of the 6000,7000,8000 range, all the JD tractors made in Europe had the two separate shafts.
One thing IH did right was make a two speed pto that you didn't have to change. Just hook it up and go. All brand are good. We're just red cause that JD deal said they would be out next week to see what we have for trade. That was 40 yeArs ago and we haven't seen him yet.
Wes, you're like me: the only flat spot left on your bench is right on top of your vice.
My JD 5220 has an "economy" PTO. It's basically just a 2-speed PTO. It runs 640 at 2600 engine rpm and when you shift to "economy" mode you the 640 pto rpm at 1700 engine rpm. It really does save a lot of fuel when you're running a smaller implement.
Allen Hansen standard agricultural PTO rpm in North America is 540 or 1000.
The new tractors you have to demo all of them if you can. One might fit your needs more than another. I never have said the top brands suck. It will be interesting to see what improvements they will make now that they have met emission standards.
Nice video! Love this mech videos you have
We had a John Deere 8200 on the farm I was working on here in Germany. We put an adapter to 540 on the PTO cause here all gear is running on 540s. And boy that adapter was twisted.
I like your opinion bout John Deere. In Germany they are almost every year on place one of the registration charts..
But why u are running such a little sprayer on such a big tractor?
cool I learned something today. I wonder is that just common to john deere, or do other brands have the same set up with pto settings?
All the tractors I have driven has just had either electonic shifting between 540 and 1000 or had a "gearlever" to swith between them.
Mack Thompson
Maybe in the us this the way to go, in germany its no matter, 540 or 1000 rpm, 99% use the 6 spline. I think this changeable driveshafts are relicts from really old days, even my old Fendt from 69` have a gear shift for the pto.
Mack Thompson
Belive it or not my front mower run with 1000 rpm and use a standard 1 3/8" 6 spline driveshaft, my rear mower ist actually adjusted for 540 rpm because i prefer that, but it can be adjustet for 1000 rpm and us still the same driveshaft. I know in some countries the 21 spline is very common, but not here in germany. Big machines like tripple mowers or big balers use bigger 1 3/4" driveshafts, but mostly also with 6 splines, sometimes the 20 splines variant which you can see in the video. It is not possible to change out the pto driveshaft on my tractors without taking down the complette transmission, more modern tractors especially in higer hp classes have this opportunity.
Here in sweden we have 6 spline for almost everything both balers, manurespreaders, mowers, tripplemowers and also liquidmanurespreaders. That is on fendt 936, NH T8050, Fendt 924 and so on every tractor that I have driven has used 6 spline on both 540 and 1000 and that we change inside the cab.
my old international has both 540 and 1000 exposed no switching shafts
onelonleyfarmer nice to learn about pto stuff.
I hope to get a axle made to use on my truck :)
What size and pitch bolts you need?
Wes can you please do a video on the Mack R? Thanks Jim
If you ever worked for Deere you would say thier politics suck!!! Thier equipment is the best though. Great video, thanks for sharing.
All of our case and case IH tractors have reversable pto shafts. The only tractor that doesnt is our 7120 caseih magnum. It has 2 shafts .
Luv your vids buddy, but please get a guard fitted to that sprayer shaft !!!
wonder why JD uses this elaborate type of switching from 540/1000. others have two pto axils,or a lever in the cab for switching. even my old zetor 6045 got a lever in the cab ;)
That looks like great grease! Just curious, does that sprayer pump require a lot of HP to run? Just wondering why you're using the big 7000 and 8000 series JDs to spray with. Those sprayer wheel repairs turned out great...cant even tell they were modified.
klc317 Don't need hp to run the pto need hp to pull the sprayers through wet fields and up and down hills.
You don't lubricate the output end to ease the friction when make turns? Or is that a CV type shaft?
the pto shaft is slid on and there is a spring loaded pin (button or collar)) that keeps it on the splines, there is a universal joint about 5" behind the shaft
And of course you have forgotten the link... Good to see you have your priorities straight :)
Any chance you could show how that pto adapter works on a tractor?
are you going to use the fish mix in fields again
you'd want to get a pto cover, stay safe
So, are the tires on the sprayer reversed for a reason?
Just to make you a little jealous- I'm planting corn as I watched this😀
don't you just love the so called proprietary parts program some companies come up with. you could call ARP and see about bolts or studs for it. BTW wes what is the name / manufacturer of that grease???
How many hours do you usually put on your tractors a year?
I'm thinking about buying a welder so I can do exhaust work which one would you go with
Hello... I have a question.. I own a JD 2850... it has a lever next to the seat to change to 540 rpm to 1000 rpm, but its that enought? Or Have to Flip the shaft anyway?
I saw the GPS in the last video, do you run the Autosteer in the 8120?
Why arent you using the 4960 to pull the sprayer
When do you get your new mower?
I can't see any link in the description
give me a break. we run a 6 inch auger with a tg230. we run the pto at idle and convert the 1000 to 540. you gotta do what you gotta do.
Looks like hay making weather there wes.
No link in description, i am disappoint...
I have been wondering, snd I don't mean to pry but why ise the 8120 when you have that fancy 4960 you fixed up? It just seems like you could keep your cost lower running the 4960 instead. I'm just curious, and don't mean to offend.
To save wes the trouble, he uses the 8120 because he already has it set up to run his sprayer, to use the 4960 he would need to make another bracket to mount the monitor on to and a few other things of that nature, the 8120 has a nicer more sealed cab then the soundgard cabs like whats on the 4960 too, also I'd figure the 8120 is probably more fuel efficient then the 4960, being modern running common rail injection and the such even though their power levels are similar
I was thinking why spend the hundred grand or more on a new tractor when he had one that will do the work. I het he bought it whilst the 4960 was burned up. Why not trade it for that new windrower plus the old case. Probably be straight across the board on price.
The 8120 rides way better than the 4960, has a higher top speed for moving from field to field, and the 8120 is more fuel efficient. I own an 8120 and used to have a 4960. If I had to choose between the two the 8120 would win out every time. Oh, the 8120 has fingertip controls for the hydraulics rather than having to use levers.
Justin James I guess Wes is the only one that could answer that, but yea he did say he bought the 8120 as a replacement for the 4960 when it burnt, I figure he probably thought the 4960 was done for at the time but he managed to save it, if it was me I'd be happy to have a backup tractor ready to go if he needs it, say the 8120 takes a shit baling hay in the middle of summer with 400 acres ready to bale and a monsoon is coming a few days later, instead of being totally screwed since he has no other tractor that can handle his current baler safely except maybe the 5020, he can retrofit the 4960 to accept his baler and run it until the 8120 is back up and running again, not to mention it can take up some of the work the 8120 would have to do that much less hours on it, I'd say its pretty smart the way he runs his farm personally
Have you ever took notice the ones that say John Deere sucks is the ones that can't afford them lol I like John Deere and white
Parts for JD's are expensive, but are JD tractors and machinery reliable?
Actually you may be able to go to www.boltdepot.com and get the bolts you need there. I know they have obscure bolts.
I think europe is more AGCO Fendt, Massey Ferguson, Valtra than new holland..... But AGCO also has really really expensive parts.... John Deere is also slowly taking the european market..... For example we have 8 John Deere's and one old Renault haha, renault is now Claas...
John Deere is redicoulous with their bolts I understand your pain with my lawn mowers being John Deere
Please fix that guard on the PTO. I know you're unlikely to be out of the cab while running the sprayer but you can't be too careful
JD has top sales in a lot of areas as guys have been brainwashed into thinking if it don't have green tin and yellow wheels it's not a tractor , combine or implement they will run or lack of other brand dealer support close by.
I Have been to a few places and run other brands against green and it's pee'd all over it. But guys won't change as grandpa was a green guy, they wouldn't even demo something else there.
if some guys got more money than brains have at it. I fix older Deere's and the prices are stupid for some parts, and 30 year old stuffs getting more unreliable, most of it with hyd or trans problems now or the odd messed up motor. The new stuffs not much better either. for cost if you need the dealer to fix any of it! . in 5 to 10 years my repair shop will be done with protected computer and electronic stuff that's dealer only or obsolete parts as is happening now .
super6954 Wait, what there are tractors out there that don't have green with yellow on them....? Impossible - Go Green or Go Home! Now if you excuse I'm going to go use a red tractor because green is too expensive!
RDAllen LOL yeah hard to believe isn't it, I got a blue 6400 valtra here I was just doing my chores with. It was cheaper than a 64 type series Deere with half as many hours again. The valtra will still be working hard when the Deeres done, from all the worn out high hour ones I looked at for 45-$60.000! they needed tires or other work to be in the same condition as the valtra was. My only problem with the Valtra is Agco own it now :(
Had how long has Deere been in business compared to other brands?
Let the green yellow guys pay for their crapp and think they have a reliable machine! For me its always been Kubota.
Best investment you can make is an owners manual for your tractor, not all John Deere's are alike.
plenty of lube when you stick it in lol lube wins hands down. i missed having your live link today but then summer is coming its all busy busy busy. great vid.
real farmers know tractors get dirty and stay dirty a lot of the time, its called being busy, and not having all the time in the world
I do not get it, you can just throw a switch in the cab to switch from 540 to 750 and 1000 rpm?
A van Seijen The simple answer is no. 750 just runs the tractor engine slower to produce 540. For the most part 540 and 1000 RPM PTO shafts (the part that runs from the equipment to the tractor) have different spline counts. Unless you turn the PTO stub around they wouldn't fit. As Wes mentioned in the video kinda it is to prevent you from accidentally running a 540 piece of equipment at 1000 RPM or 1000 at 540.
awd3264 most modern tractors have a lever or switch in cab to switch between 540 and 1000.you dont have to switch the shaft at back of tractor and the pto shaft on machines are mostly the ones with the big splines but you can make mistakes.One time i took trailed forage harvester[it ran at 1000rpm] of tractor and put a pasture topper [540rpm] on and forgot to change lever in cab and made shit of a gearbox on topper.it was a MF6480
mrhorsepower150 Where did I say there wasn't a switch or lever in the cab to change PTO speeds? I didn't.
Many modern tractors closing into at least 100HP or above have them. That never was in question. I really was trying to explain why you might need to do more than just flip a switch when it is required to change the speed of the PTO stub shaft coming out of the tractor.
Mack Thompson no they dont.Most modern machines have the 6 spline shaft,doesnt matter which pto speed they are.You just shift the lever or button to 540 or 1000 in the cab.As i said i have 540 and 1000 rpm machines with 6spline shafts
awd3264 ok i see that now.its just handier to have all the shafts 6 spline if you have the switch in cab to change between 540 and 1000 but as you said mistakes can be made when you do that
Hi. If you have any issues related to metric stuff or your sprayer ( Hardi is made in denmark ), just let me know.I have lots of connections and I can get anything... 😊Hans.
I like John Deere I just can't afford one, and I surely could never afford to fix one.
Silver graphite, learnt something new.
Bruce Baxter i wondered that myself but hay i cant argue what they say it is!!
I have seen graphite bearings shiny, so I guess it's the same effect.
I must look for some of that stuff.
Did you mention a brand name?
it was a special type grease made fore a company that is no longer in business so its not available any longer..
you forgot the link
Eicher650 ka pto rpm Kiana hai
John Deer does not suck. They're a good solid dependable tractor. However, from what I've been seeing in your videos, I feel it's safe to say that John Deers customer service habits do indeed suck.
That's way too big for the sprayer you pull. I run a 6150r (a bit smaller than the 7530) on a navigator 6000 that hauls 1650 us gals. Works great with isobus and greenstar
god man ik hoef in fe kabine een hendel om te zetten en hij staat op 1000 of 540 of 540 eco john deere moet weer moeilijk doen
Looks like Timmy has some trators to wash.
The johndeere 7220 is the same as well u just flop it around and ya😃
mm never knew you could do that. neat!
I hate those forward pushing PTO drive lines, they do the opposite of what you are trying to do.
new holland FTW! haha
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Just curious are you guys millionaires? I didn't realize farming paid so good to afford all that equipment.
John H hard work will make anyone a millionaire!! i didnt air anything i earned it...
Ford+Fiat=New Holland
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you sing the praises of john deere and i am all about buying american but everytime you mention the price of a piece of equipment no matter how small it is $200.00 to $20000 dollars.what they are charging you and other farmers is pure profit for john deere and in the end the farmer has to pass the loss onto the customer.if john deere was really proud of their product and their country they would not screw over farmers and people with smaller tractors who just use them for everyday use around the property.
jhon deere sux even if thay sel more tractors thay break faster about the pto not cool to take it out to chance it to watever speed but i love ur video,s tho