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@@artivedi3887 Good question. Let's say there are two cars... One of them is put to good use... the second isn't... The karmas (activities, of the two cars) are different. However, at the end of the day, they are both... one On to human beings... The onus is on us. Whether one wants to put one's mind to God or Ego... All the best
To be able to see (/ maintain one's ability to see) everyone as God ( Universe / One ), and not be under the influence of Maya (illusion/ feelings) is like wow : )
@@artivedi3887 Because this is called a lila by sages. This is from ‘The Gospel of Sri RamakrishnA’. (He calls Pure Consciousness/Self as God).“This world is the lila of God. It is like a game. In this game there are joy and sorrow, virtue and vice, knowledge and ignorance, good and evil. The game cannot continue if sin and suffering are altogether eliminated from the creation. In the game of hide-and-seek one must touch the “granny” in order to be free. But the “granny” is never pleased if she is touched at the very outset. It is God’s wish that the play should continue for some time. Then- Out of a hundred thousand kites, at best but one or two break free; And Thou dost laugh and clap Thy hands, O Mother, watching them! In other words, after the practice of hard spiritual discipline, one or two have the vision of God, through His grace, and are liberated. Then the Divine Mother claps Her hands in joy and exclaims, “Bravo! There they go!”
The disciple, upon hearing these words, was then enlightened... Gratitude and Grace abound. My heart sings with sound profound. Thank you so much. Thank you, thank you, thank you for reaching and touching my soul. 🙏
Summary - Part 1 - What happens after enlightenment? The basis of the Enlightenment or self-realization is the annihilation of the ego and yet there is a you which has to be there for the body-mind organism to function. This YOU is also the one that responds to the name being called obviously means identification with a name and form so the identification with an individual name and form separate from the others separate from the others continues. There is however a very big difference between the identification with a name and form which continues after the ego is destroyed after the sense of personal doership has been destroyed. So what is destroyed after self-realization or enlightenment? What has been annihilated is the sense of personal doors but that does not mean annihilation of the identification with a name and form. Ramana Maharshi says the ego that arises can be described as the remnant of a burnt rope, meaning the Rope is burnt but the form of the rope remains - you can't tie up anybody with that rope. The faith in the will of God is not an individual's faith in the will of God. Faith in the will of God truly means the surrender of the personal wealth and the personal individual. Total faith in the will of God means surrender of the individual sense of doership to God. When a person's total faith in the will of God is lost or not there, the individual comes in with the necessity to be kind and compassionate and when kindness and compassion are lost moral values come in. If kindness and compassion are there, the question of moral do's and don'ts don't arise. Kindness and compassion are part of faith in the will of God. If a person loses even their kindness and compassion, there arises moral do's and don'ts. So when moral do's and don'ts arise there is a list of things to be done and things not to be done with the implied promise if not Express that once you do that God will be on your side so they expect God to take sides when you follow certain moral lose and don't you will win over God to your side and when morality is lost and religion takes over religious dogmas come into the picture and when dogmas of one religion are not acceptable to another and when religion becomes only the husk and not the kernel of faith in God, so that's how religious wars begin. So this progression or regression is usually what he said begin with the seeker and ends with the destruction of the seeker. So, self-realization means total faith in the veil of God. Regarding the question as what has happened to the person after self-realization if the basis of enlightenment is the YOU being destroyed, then who is it that is now talking? who is it that is now living his or her life? That question arises because of the misunderstanding between the ego that is annihilated which is the sense of personal doership and what continues there after a simple identification with a name and form. No sense of Oneness remains, No sense of WANTS remain because there is no individual entity wanting anything, this wanting is personal doership. The person continues to live his life exactly as he lived before the only difference being earlier the person thought he was living his or her life. After self-realization the deepest possible confirmation is that life was being lived through me - me being again the identification with the name and form and not in the sense of personal doership and life will continue to be lived through me and when I say life will continue to be lived through me I mean life as before will be continue will continue to be lived through you and him and her in other words life that is being lived through any body mind organism will be merely witnessed including the body mind organs in which he calls himself. So what happens then is that life as it happens events as they happen, deeds as they are done, actions that are done are merely witnessed not as those of an individual doer but as part of the total functioning of manifestation or God's will. That is what is happening now when there is no real distinction made between anything which happens through another body mind organism or through this own body mind organism. Let me tell you an incident that happened with my earlier guru in Pune. In the nearby streets, kids were playing out on the roads in front of their homes. Suddenly there was big cry about somebody getting hurt, so a couple of people from the ashram went to see. They brought in an simple old man who was not concerned with the world. He went wherever the will of God took him. He used to dress shabbily, never cared for his appearance which made him a prime target for the playful children. Some kid made fun of him and expected him to get angry but he didn't get angry. He joined in the fun which irritated the boy who made fun of him so the boy threw a stone at him and others kids also started throwing stones thus injuring him. The old man was an irregular visitor to the ashram and the people from the ashram brought him to the ashram. They were grumbling a lot that this goes on all the time and the police don't do anything. Somebody should do something about it and they helped clean up the wounds and the old man was all right. But the ashram folks kept grumbling to which the old man said - what is all the grumbling about? I don't understand - Some hands threw stones at me and injured me while some other hands cleaned up the wounds. It was not a statement made to impress anybody and it came straight from the heart. This is an example of witnessing that happens to any body mind organism about anything. Because of the sense of doership not being there there is no distinction of my actions, his actions, her actions or your actions. Whatever happens is accepted. There is no fear of life or death. I saw a Kite bird do a fantastic thing - it came landed on the green grass on the tee golfing grounds, spread its wings, raised its neck looked at the morning sun and laid its head down and died. A bird comes knowing that it is dying, there is no panic, there is no flutter of wings. It comes quietly and has decided on a place to die, lands and looks at the Sun puts his head down and lays down its life. When the ego is dead the sense of the individual believing and thinking of themselves as a doer is gone. Q> When we say no more doubts remain, and no WANTS remain. The individual has WANTS and a sense of doership. He is the one who wants them. If there is mere identification with the name and form, WANTS are not there. The basic understanding is that whatever is needed either will be supplied or will not be supplied. Whether the needs are satisfied or not will depend on God's will and the destiny of this body mind organism. Q> So if I want to buy a computer or something, then is it not a WANT? There is a slight distinction to be made between NEED and WANT. The NEED consists of things like food for the body mind organism to live, for the functioning of the body mind organism. Food is a need and essential for the system but needing a computer or bicycle/car/vehicle is not essential. Now a bicycle may be essential so you can go daily using for a job but you have choice to either walk or bicycle to your place of work. The choice could be between biking in 15 minutes or walking for 1-2 hours. So a bicycle becomes a need but whether that need will be fulfilled or not is also accepted as WANT. So but that doesn't prevent you from doing whatever you think you should do. That's why we go back to the free will - Does the individual have free will? Of course the individual has free will to decide to do something. So what is your decision - Maybe you decide that you will go and ask a friend to lend you some money to buy the bicycle. Do it but whether that decision will be frutify and turn into something you want is not in your control. whether your friend will be able to lend you the money is not in your control but that does not prevent you from making a decision to go to your friend and ask for a loan and if it is God's will and the destiny of this body-mind organism the plan will grant you the loan you will buy a bicycle and repay the loan. Similarly you may have a WANT (not need) for a computer to get a job or do your work. You have the free will to decide that you want to buy it - whether you have the money to buy a top of line (MAC) or an adequate computer, or buy it at all depends on God's will and your destiny. So the needs for a bicycle or Car or Computer is a WANT that is there but the understanding is whether that want as such will be satisfied or not is not in your control.
-Part 2 - Q> If a person is born in luxury or if luxury is his part of life way of life the person is not going to give up on his wealth because understanding has happened. Sometimes followers of the Bhagavad Gita would talk about renunciation. If we look at what Lord Krishna tells Arjuna? Lord Krishna tells Arjuna you may decide not to fight but that decision will be futile. The programming in this body mind organism of a born warrior that has been trained to be a warrior will not allow you. Therefore Lord Krishna tells Arjuna to fight and win the battle. In this case, he does not ask Arjuna to renunciate the kingdom gained after victory. There is a similar story in Hindu mythology scriptures about King Janaka. He lived that life of a just King and followed the dharma and way of life of a King. He didn't live the life of a beggar but that of a King. A guru that lived with his disciples in a ashram found one disciple had some doubts about renunciation. He expected renunciation means deliberately giving up so the Guru decided to send this disciple to King Janaka. When he came to the court of King Janaka in the evening, he saw music, dance and some courtiers drinking. The disciple looks up and thinks what kind of a man has my guru sent me that is enjoying himself like this. King Janaka asks him to get some rest after his long journey and that he will meet him tomorrow morning at six o'clock. So the next morning King Janaka went to this quarters and they started walking. They saw that a fire had broken out in the King’s palace. King Janaka continued to carry on with their talk. King Janak mentioned that the fire is being put out and to not worry. But the disciple couldn't wait any longer. He said Your Majesty you may have many clothes but my only other loincloth is on the string drying. So this great renunciatory was worried about his only other loin cloth whereas King Janaka would not have been worried if the whole Palace had gotten burnt. This is true renunciation and giving up is one of the religious dos and don'ts. So no WANTS remain. If there are needs that have to be fulfilled - whether they'll be fulfilled or not is NOT in the person’s control. It is God's will so if the needs are to be fulfilled they will be fulfilled. Q> Does this mean that if the WANT does not remain or is not satisfied then is it a Need? Once the Enlightenment has happened and truly there is no individual doer as an entity no WANTs remain. Let’s say a normal individual being has a home, family, a car with a one car garage. Normally the person should be happy but the individual WANTs increase. The WANTING mind or the THINKING mind says that it wants more of what you have or something you don’t have. It could want a bigger house, three-car garage either because of genuine needs like a growing family or just to show off the big house to others. Those become our NEEDs. If the body mind organism (identification with a name and form- ego) dwells upon and decide to do whatever it can to satisfy that need. Once it does its part to satisfy a genuine need, it should accept the will of God and the destiny of that body mind organism independent of whether the need is satisfied or not. There is no egoic frustration. The decisions that are made are made by the WORKING mind and continues after enlightenment by the WORKING mind. The THINKING mind which judges, which observes and judges is gone. The WORKING mind when it sees a fire will do whatever it takes to put it out whether the fire is in the person’s house or the neighbors house. The THINKING mind will judge that the fire is in neighbors house and it is not my problem, or I will not help because it is bad neighbor etc. If a therapist is working on the programming of clients, it is not in the hand of the therapist and also not in the hand of the client. If the destiny of the therapist and of a particular client is to be helped by you he will be helped but if the destiny of another client is not to be helped by you he will not be helped. If it is the destiny of the therapist to have 10 clients in a row who are not to be satisfied then the destiny of the therapist will be to acquire a bad name. It's the other way around also. If it is the destiny of therapists to have 10 successful clients everybody will talk about how good a therapist he/she is. So that depends also on your destiny that's why I say what happens depends on the destiny of the therapist and the client. Q> When we say that for an individual everything is based on God's will. How does it work in groups like families or in a company where many people have to be together? There are not different wills of God. How the intellect in individual body mind organism works is the will of God. Different people think in different terms and the will of God is that different body mind organisms think in different ways and the different ways are according to the programming. As an example, if someone hurts another person then obviously it's the persons destiny to be hurt. The other person is an instrument through which that hurt happened. If a murder or killing has happened, it means the destiny of one body mind organism to be killed and the destiny of other body mind organism to be the instrument to kill that particular body mind organ. A killing involves the destinies of two people according to the will of God, where one is a killer and the other is the killed. God has fixed the destiny of each body mind organism for a limited span of life according to the respective spans of life for eternity. So God has already written the script and made the movie. God has produced and directed the movie and is playing every character in the movie. God is witnessing the movie so the destiny of each character is already in the script and the movie is already there. Einstein says God is playing dice with the universe because we don't know what is happening next. We think God is playing dice with the universe because we do not have the full information which God has. God knows and has created the whole movie but we do not know it. This is a concept and it is your destiny whether you accept this concept or not. If what you think should be changed or could be changed then in the movie the change has already been made. So even the words that you are saying are inevitable, and cannot be changed. Nothing can be changed by you or me. If what we see now needs to be changed and if it is changed that will be changed because it is the will of God. Ramana Maharshi said what you are getting now is conditioning, this conditioning is a thought to remove the earlier thorn embedded in your foot. Ramana Maharshi said the concept can only be used as a thorn to remove another thorn embedded in your foot and once the embedded thorn has been removed you throw both the thorns away. You don't hang on to the to the thorn which was used as an instrument. Once the misconception has been removed throw both the thrown away. In other words don't hang on to any concept. Use the concept at that moment and forget the concept. Don't hang on to the concept. Let your programming/destiny work. If your programming is for doing social work, then do social work. If your programming is to be a devotee, then do Bhajans and not social work. Nothing happens unless it is the will of God.
I went shopping for spiritual teachers. I started with Ram Dass then Yogananda then I had a vision of Sri Ramakrishna Paramahamsa on Maha Shivarathri. Still then I always end at Ramesh Balsekar. Full stop. Nothing else to know just let life flow. The interesting thing is that the message of Ramana Maharishi is the same as Ramakrishna in different clothes. ❤🙏🏾🔥 Thakur however would say, “Brahma Satyam, Jagad Satyam”
@Dominic according to Jung, the goal of individuation (or enlightenment in this context) is to make ego willingly and joyously do its work under the Self. In other words, ego gives up all or any claim to itself (me, I, mine etc) and loses its identity to the Self. So whatever ego does in this life is but the Self acting through the ego. It's easy to comprehend these notions but takes a lifetime of effort and suffering to achieve this, if at all.
@Dominic lumberjack is the individual going about his life. Before he was complaining while chopping the wood and carrying water. After he is enjoying doing the same thing with grace. Difference is the point of view.
🙏🏻That we have expressed compassionate acknowledgement’s full of all the capture possible for the delivery of soothing supporting relief And with all our verve and willingness for this interchange..... for me nothing quivers inside with more divine resound than how I really am the other. That I can’t in this body be the physical assistance everywhere I become aware of. I can emote true about happenings, I mean that’s the only place I can do it. Thank you for reading. 🙏🏻🌸🌸 I talk too much. The scabs I pic at, finally fade almost all the way.. away. Then what? It’s not the last sunrise nor scab. Yet I do get to pic it , flavor and savor it. For me... I like to consider that . Life escapes no one. I’m grateful for this place to share. Thank you for sharing It’s astounding to me ... the immensity of a completely free persona... That we become bound up in such a way. And so far from our child selves on the outside yet are at the effect of like a child ... in the inside ..all that is not humane about this place we navigate through. That we only want to be fully alive and lively. Unbound...🌸 the emoji here isn’t window dressing. It’s what I have to augment ... so I use it. I have to say... I was aware of the Monks that set themselves a fire for the sake of others involvements at war for supreme resolve... they supremely sacrificed. I was much younger of course. The point.... All along my living in this place . The milestones of my expansion are the mitt marks other beings being supreme in their being-ness have consecrated for every / all others. I would like to acknowledge those men now. That their giving stayed with me . No mater how in the background. Ha. Isn’t it the background that’s the power source? They did that for me. And never knew me... we think it was just to stop the ill actions we steep in. We wind up steeping in an infinite resounding light always at wits end peering through. 🙏🏻 Bless - all - ways
We are our words and thoughts this is why sanskrtam is the language and music of the soul, no other language have this sensibility and words to describe reality
I really appreciate Mr Balsekar's patience. One of the man from the audience kept asking him non sense questions but Mr Balsekar didn't loose his cool at all and patiently explaining him. This is the sign of pure spiritual person ....
@@WeAreAllOneNature may be, he was feeling helpless .... sometimes in life , we dont do things intentionly. It just happens because of the result of our trauma or stress ....
Whether we it realize or not, we are pure consciousness. The unrealized are under the delusion of thinking themselves to be the individualized ego. The realized have simply removed this delusion. That is the only difference.
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After praising Balsekar ji to a friend he one day accompanied me to hear him. Afterwards i asked him how did he find the talk, to which he said "few things he was right, but other what he said did not go down well" I asked him if he would like to come again & he said no. There r people who come to check on Enlightened Masters' WISDOM.
How difficult it may be though it may be so easy..... Getting out of one's cage isn't easy.... Zeroing of expectations and rub off the unaware attachments is difficult unless detachment itself is the only way... Realisation is tough... So easy, but so difficult 🙏🙏
In Buddhism ,through meditation it becomes clear that ,life is just a heap of continuous set of feelings,sensations n etc...and concepts v form through conditioning.and v have highjacked the feelings from all the input as i n mine! Thus ego is born.
Before to Question and Answers it was nice pointings,,,,Talks was about How one is after Self Realization,,,,questioners took to other way to Destiny😂😅Great people,,,The Subject is very awesome about Self realization and answer about it is also very nice understanding ❤
When the body is in transcendence you are so delicate. Someone blamed my deep compassion, so i broke down , hospita,, horrible pains in teh legs. Her one knows an easy recognicable compassion, mine is over 50 years, one can not see anything. So tehy think that I have no compassion. Tehy even do not know nor accept a transcendence of the body
Before realisation one is obsessed with building the Mansion and decorating it and expanding and remodeling so that it becomes the envy of his Neighbours . After enlightenment he never cares or feels the Mansion and even will not hesitate to leave it without any emotional or physical attachment . The Mansion is the physical body. The occupant is the enlightened soul.
You will take care for your body if that is your destiny beside the self realization. You could be a model and also be self realized. To imply otherwise would simply put some form of limitation to the whole idea/concept of God.
Indeed. But to let go or not is also beyond our control.The letting go happens by Gods will.If it's not your destiny,then it won't happen no matter how hard the individual or the ego tries.Thats the whole paradox of it.t
I agree with all this, I just want to add that creation has happened many times, 83 times, this is the 84 th creation. So the movie has played before, but it has been subject to slight differences. When you dream of a premonition or read a prophecy, you are not seeing the future, you are seeing the past. Nothing is set in stone, Karma can still change, if that is the will of God.
In Buddhism ,mind is described in two forms .The thinking mind and the emotional mind and most of us only react to emotions almost 99% of times,and it teaches u to work with the thinking mind,for that u have to be 100% conscious in all ur efforts ,instead of reacting unconsiously.this elimination of a so called Gods destiny.u choose ur destiny by living in the present moment consiously.
His guru or teacher wrote a book called I Am That. You can buy that book. It is common. He follows a teaching called non-dual, also known as Advaita Vedanta. There are other teachers that teach non-dual also, like Ramana Maharshi. He also has many books you can read. It is a common philosophy that says that there is only one energy in existence. ☯️🕉
I have been self realized by reading the bhagwat Gita , following g the teachings of swami ac Bhaktivedanta prabupada . I canted the khrishna mantra every second of every moment . After 6 months I was self realized! It was amazing . I embraced humility ,discernment ,and greed jealousy did not existed as I was able to control my 5 senses . It is worth it
@@artivedi3887 what is wealth ? What is this word poor ? Trump have his own 747 , Elon musk have his own spaceship , politicians are stealing more than the bankers and the bankers are stealing more than the common man , who goes to jail ? When one mans wife fights about the size of swimming pool to buy the other man argues with his wife for buying clothes . Money is a great energy . But living in bliss is the end result of being rich is it not ?
@@Pfau1 why d we oils I not be sure ? The key is conserving your energy to be able to energize your third eye to open , in the process your thoughts must be noble and one cannot have anger in your heart , so control of the mind is the first step .
You are not enlightened..you are deluded ....you say that you became enlightened after 6 months of chanting .. ridiculous ....chanting can't make one enlightened (only right understanding can ) and above all only a an immature ego can declare that it became enlightened!
I want to suggest that if you would change the word annihilation with transcendence....it would convey the real meaning of self realisation, and withtogether positivity, hope and purpose for further life....
The word annihilation emits a destructive meaning,,,..but its our identity, personality.....which cannot be crushed easily and i think we ourselves shouldn't destroy and forget it, but rather make our identity so useful (fruitful) and simple that it can help evoluting & surviving further generations of human, animals and plants. The joy of being attached and worthy of neighborhood, which you are leaving behind helps in alleviating from aatma to parmatma (physical death)......this is self realisation...
if I try to explain in simple words When I try to toss a coin, it's my decision, but the experiment's outcome is not in my control. Even if I try to cheat for the outcome in my favor, other factors such as, may be a strong wind/ surface where the coin falls could also contribute to the outcome. I am just an observer
Well said,karmaye namaha,kriya is wht v are capable off not the final outcome,,even if it isn't in our hands tht shouldn't stop anyone to strive for,for whatever the distance covered towards our intended goal even if reached midway is an achievement
Yes yes you are right. It is our karmas which decides our destiny. We can do karmas but the outcome of that karma cannot be decided by us. We decide and do karmas to become a millionaire. It may happen or not happen. What happens is our destiny. Can we say.. I did karma for not becoming a millionaire? 😂 OR.. For not becoming a millionaire i did some bad karmas. 😂😂😂 If we are deciding our destiny.. We should be able to do the proper karmas to reach our decided goal no? But is it happening always to all?
Does anyone know when this particular meeting took place, I am curious because I think I know someone in the audience and to know the date would be helpful.
Have gone through various available literature concerning self-realisation including religious ones, but none explains it. With due respect to the individual speaking, there are no answers here. If someone understood, good for them.
thank you very much for saving my time. After reading your comment I dont need to watch the whole video. But still this man has often also valuable messages and I have great respect for him.
I question the concept of ego and, while not an enlightened person, which is my only certainty that what is absent must be imagination. How can I surrender to the will of God? Is God not just an idea? However, I can surrender to “' what is ”.
Is it possible to gain self realization without a master?? I live in the Tamma capital who all live towards the 3 gates, lost, anger an greed. Iv completely cut myself off an have to isolate. All ready what I know now an what iv learned even by the mind, I cannot go back, but I'm now stuck in no man's land, people think I'm mentally ill lol. With my burning devotion and everything I do now dedicated an I follow Krsnas advuce in the Gita. Is it possible to gain self realization possible without imitation or a master. Please can you please answer this for me has my Time I is not long. Thankyou🙏
Self-realisation is a stepping stone. You can have it by self-enquiry or denial of what is not permanent with or without a Master. Try it, don't worry about a Master. The Nature helps a true seeker to move ahead.
Must have total faith in the will of God but this kind of faith dissolves the person and there is a new way to perceive the world. A perception from Purity, of Purity and with Purity - God in Man is the new Identity..
Ego vs working mind Thinking mind vs identification with name and form Thinking mind observes and judges Working mind observes Working mind says if fires put out.. Either my home or any
The questioner is really a beginner and Mr. Balsekar is not able to make it clear that if a self realized person wants something, if it is not fulfilled, does not get frustrated or upset. The self realized person is equanimous.
Ramesh was my teacher, but I agree with you haha. Yes, it's not about absence of desire, it's simply being unattached to its fulfilment. Many such desires are not needs.. you don't need the new phone or whatever. It's just that you don't expect some acquisition to be the source of your happiness.. That doesn't stop you from enjoying it.
The eternity of this much beaten agenda perhaps links with innermost ego,that imperatives a thorough bashing in the lights of our Gurus ,who have devoted their whole life spans in gaining-ultimately. the essence.
Christ was the ultimate non-dual master: "Remain in Me, and I will remain in you. Just as no branch can bear fruit by itself unless it remains in the vine, neither can you bear fruit unless you remain in Me. I am the vine and you are the branches. The one who remains in Me, and I in him, will bear much fruit. For apart from Me you can do nothing. If anyone does not remain in Me, he is like a branch that is thrown away and withers. Such branches are gathered up, thrown into the fire, and burned.…" ~ John 15:5
@@TheWorldTeacher What is there to teach ? What you known has already fortified you & you have no way to learn anything more... It is not possible for you to unlearn as well So live with the statement I made above in first comment.. Conning self to con others The words phrases examples & body gestures used by the lecturer are all empty. They carry no meaning. You have been taught and thus all your claims that you are claiming are just plain useless talks like barking of a dog or cheio of a bird or hiss of a cobra. It carry no meaning no matter which vocabulary you use.. Take my statement as it is or leave it & move on. You Sir are not going to get anything neither those who are listening to your empty phrases and stories. That is their Sorrow.
@@KuldeepPandita-kn9bx, PMS are the initials for “Premenstrual Syndrome”, which every woman (except, perhaps, Mama Maria) has at LEAST once a month, when she cannot control her moods and emotions. And it seems from your impetuous and DISRESPECTFUL response, that you are experiencing some kind of premenstrual affliction, Slave?
@@TheWorldTeacher As I said it is impossible to give up . You have no way to interpret my words other than the meaning you attach them.( Those meanings is what you have collected thus for). If it happens to you somehow and you would realise somehow that you are a tape recorder ,throwing out what has been put in.Probably you have a faint chance to know that there is no self to realize and an enlightened person has no way to tell self that he is one. Probably it would dawn upon you that how you sold stories to people. I again say .. You have no way to know what you do not know and 3nd of ego is end of you. The YOU in your is given by others. You go on selling Shroudy Goodies to people. I am.ok with it .There is a demand and you are supplying the same. My one line in first comment was brought to rip your knowing to bits and pieces and that you know very well Having said that I know it is not possible for your to reform and thus same is true with your students 9r those who come to you for doing their living issues. Good luck.
True. Like taste of a mango. You only "know" what it tastes like once it enters the mouth. Then the words of sweet, juicy etc make sense. Words always come later
All sanatan and worldwide sects with five levels of Spiritual awareness Each sect ultimately slowly and surely moves upto top level from Jeev to Adi. Shaivya Vaishnav Adi Shakti Sankhya Christianity Sufism Buddhist 1) Adi , sda, Pra, Akshar, Shar, jeev🙏🙏🙏 2) Adi Shiv, Sda Shiv, Shankar, Mahesh Akshar, Rudr Shar, Jeev🙏🙏🙏 3) Adi Vishnu, Sda Vishnu, Pra Vishnu, Akshar, Shar, Jeev🙏🙏🙏 4) Adi Narayana, Sda Avadhoot/ Maha-Vishnu, Pra Vishnu, Akshar Mahesh, Shar Brahmaa, Jeev 🙏🙏🙏 5) Lord resurrected moksh ( Adi) , Holy father ( Sda); Holy Ghost ( pra) Son of God ( Akshar) ; Son of man ( Shar); Human ( Jeev).🙏🙏🙏 6) Adi Dev Hari & Adi Ma , Param- atma or Nishkaam Karmi; Vishnu & , Mahesh & Parvati, Brahmaa & Saraswati, Jeev atma 🙏🙏🙏 7) Adi Hari Krishna & Ma in Golok; Nishkaam Karm Sat Purush, Kutasth purush; Abhaas Purush, Dvij Purush, Jeev 8) Adi Hari Ram Divay Mani Purush & Ma Sita in Vakunth; Nishkaam or Sat Purush ; Uttam Purushv; Dvij Purush Jeev
love how Ramesh always knew what the real question is /was
💚 From Syria ....The Whole Creation Is the dancing of the One , Infinite and pure Awareness , the One Infinite Intelligence and the One Infinite Consciousness 🙇
Dear sister..Pranams! love n respect from india!!
Then why r there saints nd criminals ..they r one??!
@@artivedi3887 Good question.
Let's say there are two cars...
One of them is put to good use... the second isn't...
The karmas (activities, of the two cars) are different. However, at the end of the day, they are both... one
On to human beings...
The onus is on us.
Whether one wants to put one's mind to God or Ego...
All the best
To be able to see (/ maintain one's ability to see) everyone as God ( Universe / One ), and not be under the influence of Maya (illusion/ feelings) is like wow : )
@@artivedi3887 Because this is called a lila by sages. This is from ‘The Gospel of Sri RamakrishnA’. (He calls Pure Consciousness/Self as God).“This world is the lila of God. It is like a game. In this game there are joy and sorrow, virtue and vice, knowledge and ignorance, good and evil. The game cannot continue if sin and suffering are altogether eliminated from the creation.
In the game of hide-and-seek one must touch the “granny” in order to be free. But the “granny” is never pleased if she is touched at the very outset. It is God’s wish that the play should continue for some time. Then-
Out of a hundred thousand kites, at best but one or two break free;
And Thou dost laugh and clap Thy hands, O Mother, watching them!
In other words, after the practice of hard spiritual discipline, one or two have the vision of God, through His grace, and are liberated. Then the Divine Mother claps Her hands in joy and exclaims, “Bravo! There they go!”
Beyond all thought,
It's obvious:
We don't live life;
This life lives us!
You are life and there is no life apart from you.
@@andreyk7465 +1 for succinctness, -1 for not rhyming. A neutral comment. 😜
pure compassion is the door for self realisation , self liberation , awakening ....
The disciple, upon hearing these words, was then enlightened...
Gratitude and Grace abound. My heart sings with sound profound.
Thank you so much. Thank you, thank you, thank you for reaching and touching my soul. 🙏
Summary - Part 1 -
What happens after enlightenment?
The basis of the Enlightenment or self-realization is the annihilation of the ego and yet there is a you which has to be there for the body-mind organism to function. This YOU is also the one that responds to the name being called obviously means identification with a name and form so the identification with an individual name and form separate from the others separate from the others continues. There is however a very big difference between the identification with a name and form which continues after the ego is destroyed after the sense of personal doership has been destroyed. So what is destroyed after self-realization or enlightenment? What has been annihilated is the sense of personal doors but that does not mean annihilation of the identification with a name and form. Ramana Maharshi says the ego that arises can be described as the remnant of a burnt rope, meaning the Rope is burnt but the form of the rope remains - you can't tie up anybody with that rope.
The faith in the will of God is not an individual's faith in the will of God. Faith in the will of God truly means the surrender of the personal wealth and the personal individual. Total faith in the will of God means surrender of the individual sense of doership to God. When a person's total faith in the will of God is lost or not there, the individual comes in with the necessity to be kind and compassionate and when kindness and compassion are lost moral values come in. If kindness and compassion are there, the question of moral do's and don'ts don't arise. Kindness and compassion are part of faith in the will of God. If a person loses even their kindness and compassion, there arises moral do's and don'ts. So when moral do's and don'ts arise there is a list of things to be done and things not to be done with the implied promise if not Express that once you do that God will be on your side so they expect God to take sides when you follow certain moral lose and don't you will win over God to your side and when morality is lost and religion takes over religious dogmas come into the picture and when dogmas of one religion are not acceptable to another and when religion becomes only the husk and not the kernel of faith in God, so that's how religious wars begin. So this progression or regression is usually what he said begin with the seeker and ends with the destruction of the seeker. So, self-realization means total faith in the veil of God.
Regarding the question as what has happened to the person after self-realization if the basis of enlightenment is the YOU being destroyed, then who is it that is now talking? who is it that is now living his or her life? That question arises because of the misunderstanding between the ego that is annihilated which is the sense of personal doership and what continues there after a simple identification with a name and form.
No sense of Oneness remains, No sense of WANTS remain because there is no individual entity wanting anything, this wanting is personal doership. The person continues to live his life exactly as he lived before the only difference being earlier the person thought he was living his or her life. After self-realization the deepest possible confirmation is that life was being lived through me - me being again the identification with the name and form and not in the sense of personal doership and life will continue to be lived through me and when I say life will continue to be lived through me I mean life as before will be continue will continue to be lived through you and him and her in other words life that is being lived through any body mind organism will be merely witnessed including the body mind organs in which he calls himself.
So what happens then is that life as it happens events as they happen, deeds as they are done, actions that are done are merely witnessed not as those of an individual doer but as part of the total functioning of manifestation or God's will. That is what is happening now when there is no real distinction made between anything which happens through another body mind organism or through this own body mind organism.
Let me tell you an incident that happened with my earlier guru in Pune. In the nearby streets, kids were playing out on the roads in front of their homes. Suddenly there was big cry about somebody getting hurt, so a couple of people from the ashram went to see. They brought in an simple old man who was not concerned with the world. He went wherever the will of God took him. He used to dress shabbily, never cared for his appearance which made him a prime target for the playful children. Some kid made fun of him and expected him to get angry but he didn't get angry. He joined in the fun which irritated the boy who made fun of him so the boy threw a stone at him and others kids also started throwing stones thus injuring him. The old man was an irregular visitor to the ashram and the people from the ashram brought him to the ashram. They were grumbling a lot that this goes on all the time and the police don't do anything. Somebody should do something about it and they helped clean up the wounds and the old man was all right. But the ashram folks kept grumbling to which the old man said - what is all the grumbling about? I don't understand - Some hands threw stones at me and injured me while some other hands cleaned up the wounds. It was not a statement made to impress anybody and it came straight from the heart. This is an example of witnessing that happens to any body mind organism about anything. Because of the sense of doership not being there there is no distinction of my actions, his actions, her actions or your actions. Whatever happens is accepted. There is no fear of life or death.
I saw a Kite bird do a fantastic thing - it came landed on the green grass on the tee golfing grounds, spread its wings, raised its neck looked at the morning sun and laid its head down and died. A bird comes knowing that it is dying, there is no panic, there is no flutter of wings. It comes quietly and has decided on a place to die, lands and looks at the Sun puts his head down and lays down its life.
When the ego is dead the sense of the individual believing and thinking of themselves as a doer is gone.
Q> When we say no more doubts remain, and no WANTS remain. The individual has WANTS and a sense of doership. He is the one who wants them. If there is mere identification with the name and form, WANTS are not there. The basic understanding is that whatever is needed either will be supplied or will not be supplied. Whether the needs are satisfied or not will depend on God's will and the destiny of this body mind organism.
Q> So if I want to buy a computer or something, then is it not a WANT?
There is a slight distinction to be made between NEED and WANT. The NEED consists of things like food for the body mind organism to live, for the functioning of the body mind organism. Food is a need and essential for the system but needing a computer or bicycle/car/vehicle is not essential. Now a bicycle may be essential so you can go daily using for a job but you have choice to either walk or bicycle to your place of work. The choice could be between biking in 15 minutes or walking for 1-2 hours. So a bicycle becomes a need but whether that need will be fulfilled or not is also accepted as WANT. So but that doesn't prevent you from doing whatever you think you should do. That's why we go back to the free will - Does the individual have free will? Of course the individual has free will to decide to do something. So what is your decision - Maybe you decide that you will go and ask a friend to lend you some money to buy the bicycle. Do it but whether that decision will be frutify and turn into something you want is not in your control. whether your friend will be able to lend you the money is not in your control but that does not prevent you from making a decision to go to your friend and ask for a loan and if it is God's will and the destiny of this body-mind organism the plan will grant you the loan you will buy a bicycle and repay the loan. Similarly you may have a WANT (not need) for a computer to get a job or do your work. You have the free will to decide that you want to buy it - whether you have the money to buy a top of line (MAC) or an adequate computer, or buy it at all depends on God's will and your destiny. So the needs for a bicycle or Car or Computer is a WANT that is there but the understanding is whether that want as such will be satisfied or not is not in your control.
-Part 2 -
Q> If a person is born in luxury or if luxury is his part of life way of life the person is not going to give up on his wealth because understanding has happened. Sometimes followers of the Bhagavad Gita would talk about renunciation.
If we look at what Lord Krishna tells Arjuna? Lord Krishna tells Arjuna you may decide not to fight but that decision will be futile. The programming in this body mind organism of a born warrior that has been trained to be a warrior will not allow you. Therefore Lord Krishna tells Arjuna to fight and win the battle. In this case, he does not ask Arjuna to renunciate the kingdom gained after victory. There is a similar story in Hindu mythology scriptures about King Janaka. He lived that life of a just King and followed the dharma and way of life of a King. He didn't live the life of a beggar but that of a King. A guru that lived with his disciples in a ashram found one disciple had some doubts about renunciation. He expected renunciation means deliberately giving up so the Guru decided to send this disciple to King Janaka. When he came to the court of King Janaka in the evening, he saw music, dance and some courtiers drinking. The disciple looks up and thinks what kind of a man has my guru sent me that is enjoying himself like this. King Janaka asks him to get some rest after his long journey and that he will meet him tomorrow morning at six o'clock. So the next morning King Janaka went to this quarters and they started walking. They saw that a fire had broken out in the King’s palace. King Janaka continued to carry on with their talk. King Janak mentioned that the fire is being put out and to not worry. But the disciple couldn't wait any longer. He said Your Majesty you may have many clothes but my only other loincloth is on the string drying. So this great renunciatory was worried about his only other loin cloth whereas King Janaka would not have been worried if the whole Palace had gotten burnt. This is true renunciation and giving up is one of the religious dos and don'ts. So no WANTS remain. If there are needs that have to be fulfilled - whether they'll be fulfilled or not is NOT in the person’s control. It is God's will so if the needs are to be fulfilled they will be fulfilled.
Q> Does this mean that if the WANT does not remain or is not satisfied then is it a Need?
Once the Enlightenment has happened and truly there is no individual doer as an entity no WANTs remain. Let’s say a normal individual being has a home, family, a car with a one car garage. Normally the person should be happy but the individual WANTs increase. The WANTING mind or the THINKING mind says that it wants more of what you have or something you don’t have. It could want a bigger house, three-car garage either because of genuine needs like a growing family or just to show off the big house to others. Those become our NEEDs. If the body mind organism (identification with a name and form- ego) dwells upon and decide to do whatever it can to satisfy that need. Once it does its part to satisfy a genuine need, it should accept the will of God and the destiny of that body mind organism independent of whether the need is satisfied or not. There is no egoic frustration.
The decisions that are made are made by the WORKING mind and continues after enlightenment by the WORKING mind. The THINKING mind which judges, which observes and judges is gone. The WORKING mind when it sees a fire will do whatever it takes to put it out whether the fire is in the person’s house or the neighbors house. The THINKING mind will judge that the fire is in neighbors house and it is not my problem, or I will not help because it is bad neighbor etc.
If a therapist is working on the programming of clients, it is not in the hand of the therapist and also not in the hand of the client. If the destiny of the therapist and of a particular client is to be helped by you he will be helped but if the destiny of another client is not to be helped by you he will not be helped. If it is the destiny of the therapist to have 10 clients in a row who are not to be satisfied then the destiny of the therapist will be to acquire a bad name. It's the other way around also. If it is the destiny of therapists to have 10 successful clients everybody will talk about how good a therapist he/she is. So that depends also on your destiny that's why I say what happens depends on the destiny of the therapist and the client.
Q> When we say that for an individual everything is based on God's will. How does it work in groups like families or in a company where many people have to be together?
There are not different wills of God. How the intellect in individual body mind organism works is the will of God. Different people think in different terms and the will of God is that different body mind organisms think in different ways and the different ways are according to the programming. As an example, if someone hurts another person then obviously it's the persons destiny to be hurt. The other person is an instrument through which that hurt happened. If a murder or killing has happened, it means the destiny of one body mind organism to be killed and the destiny of other body mind organism to be the instrument to kill that particular body mind organ. A killing involves the destinies of two people according to the will of God, where one is a killer and the other is the killed. God has fixed the destiny of each body mind organism for a limited span of life according to the respective spans of life for eternity. So God has already written the script and made the movie. God has produced and directed the movie and is playing every character in the movie. God is witnessing the movie so the destiny of each character is already in the script and the movie is already there. Einstein says God is playing dice with the universe because we don't know what is happening next. We think God is playing dice with the universe because we do not have the full information which God has. God knows and has created the whole movie but we do not know it. This is a concept and it is your destiny whether you accept this concept or not. If what you think should be changed or could be changed then in the movie the change has already been made. So even the words that you are saying are inevitable, and cannot be changed. Nothing can be changed by you or me. If what we see now needs to be changed and if it is changed that will be changed because it is the will of God. Ramana Maharshi said what you are getting now is conditioning, this conditioning is a thought to remove the earlier thorn embedded in your foot. Ramana Maharshi said the concept can only be used as a thorn to remove another thorn embedded in your foot and once the embedded thorn has been removed you throw both the thorns away. You don't hang on to the to the thorn which was used as an instrument. Once the misconception has been removed throw both the thrown away. In other words don't hang on to any concept. Use the concept at that moment and forget the concept. Don't hang on to the concept. Let your programming/destiny work. If your programming is for doing social work, then do social work. If your programming is to be a devotee, then do Bhajans and not social work. Nothing happens unless it is the will of God.
Thanks bro
Thanks a lot👏
Sadhguru says it's difficult to stay in body after self realisation ..is it so ?
Course lelo sadhguru ka@@sumeshvs7527
No gimmicks. Straight to the point talk ❤️
Yes❤
I went shopping for spiritual teachers. I started with Ram Dass then Yogananda then I had a vision of Sri Ramakrishna Paramahamsa on Maha Shivarathri. Still then I always end at Ramesh Balsekar. Full stop. Nothing else to know just let life flow.
The interesting thing is that the message of Ramana Maharishi is the same as Ramakrishna in different clothes. ❤🙏🏾🔥 Thakur however would say, “Brahma Satyam, Jagad Satyam”
Very clear concept... Never find any teacher with such simple clarity
Before enlightenment chop wood, carry water. After enlightenment chop wood, carry water. Zen saying
@Dominic according to Jung, the goal of individuation (or enlightenment in this context) is to make ego willingly and joyously do its work under the Self. In other words, ego gives up all or any claim to itself (me, I, mine etc) and loses its identity to the Self. So whatever ego does in this life is but the Self acting through the ego.
It's easy to comprehend these notions but takes a lifetime of effort and suffering to achieve this, if at all.
Dhyaan in india becomes zen in japan , because Japanese can't pronounce dhyaan
The only difference is who is doing the chopping.
Before enlightenment, do the laundry. After enlightenment, do the dishes.
@Dominic lumberjack is the individual going about his life. Before he was complaining while chopping the wood and carrying water. After he is enjoying doing the same thing with grace. Difference is the point of view.
Advaita House you are amazing! I can’t express the joy and gratitude you bring to us by sharing these priceless videos. Thank you so much.
Very enlightening... Beautifully described!
Namashkaram 🙏 Swamijee. Collective consciousness works more than individual consciousness. That is will of God 🙏😍
Blessed to listen such wonderful speeches
Beautiful, Thank you 🙏🏻❤️
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, REAL ENLIGHTENED TEACHER,
Thanks for sharing Sir remain blessed and more more blessings from the universe and Spirit
I love His stories they all brought beautiful tears to my eyes...
Thank you for sharing this knowledge. May it help other being to understanding the truth. 🙏❤️🕊
Thank you. 🙏🏼
Excellent approach, Blessings from Sindh Pakistan
Great video , thanks
🙏🏻That we have expressed compassionate acknowledgement’s full of all the capture possible for the delivery of soothing supporting relief And with all our verve and willingness
for this interchange..... for me nothing quivers inside with more divine resound than how I really am the other.
That I can’t in this body be the physical assistance everywhere I become aware of. I can emote true about happenings, I mean that’s the only place I can do it.
Thank you for reading.
🙏🏻🌸🌸 I talk too much.
The scabs I pic at, finally fade almost all the way.. away. Then what? It’s not the last sunrise nor scab. Yet I do get to pic it , flavor and savor it. For me... I like to consider that . Life escapes no one.
I’m grateful for this place to share. Thank you for sharing
It’s astounding to me ... the immensity of a completely free persona... That we become bound up in such a way. And so far from our child selves on the outside yet are at the effect of like a child ... in the inside ..all that is not humane about this place we navigate through. That we only want to be fully alive and lively. Unbound...🌸 the emoji here isn’t window dressing.
It’s what I have to augment ... so I use it.
I have to say... I was aware of the Monks that set themselves a fire for the sake of others involvements at war for supreme resolve... they supremely sacrificed. I was much younger of course.
The point.... All along my living in this place . The milestones of my expansion are the mitt marks other beings being supreme in their being-ness have consecrated for every / all others. I would like to acknowledge those men now.
That their giving stayed with me . No mater how in the background. Ha. Isn’t it the background that’s the power source? They did that for me.
And never knew me... we think it was just to stop the ill actions we steep in. We wind up steeping in an infinite resounding light always at wits end peering through. 🙏🏻
Bless - all - ways
Very enjoyable.
I love his storytelling, some of them very moving.
Thank you sir. God bless!
We are our words and thoughts this is why sanskrtam is the language and music of the soul, no other language have this sensibility and words to describe reality
Sir reminds me of the world teacher Jiddu Krishnamurty 🙏
Thank you 🙏🏻 💕
Peace descends listening to Ramesh...so nice of you to share his wisdom without restraint!🙏
Thank you, Advaita House : ) God bless!
Thank you so much!!!
Nice message thank you 💓
Exactly. Gratitude Sir !
I really appreciate Mr Balsekar's patience. One of the man from the audience kept asking him non sense questions but Mr Balsekar didn't loose his cool at all and patiently explaining him. This is the sign of pure spiritual person ....
Nice.. To know that nothing may be nonsense may be nearer to realisation 🙏
@@narayanabhandary3797 i agree
But still i cannot deny the fact about mr balsekar's patience .... 🙏
@@liferuhani6824 Yes, that pathetic man seemed to have no shame about ruining the flow of the spiritual talk.
@@WeAreAllOneNature may be, he was feeling helpless .... sometimes in life , we dont do things intentionly. It just happens because of the result of our trauma or stress ....
Thank you Sir, its all clear now .
Whether we it realize or not, we are pure consciousness. The unrealized are under the delusion of thinking themselves to be the individualized ego. The realized have simply removed this delusion. That is the only difference.
Well said.
Straight and Crystal clear
beautiful
omg so beautiful!!! This is it, we are enlightened now, stay in the knowing, that is all, the dreamer awakens. Love is the only answer. be amazed !!!!
Keep waxing strong and stronger more and more all the days of your life from the universe and Spirit Amen Amen
Thank you, infinite intelligence
Love it ♡
excellent talk
The self realized person does not take it personally or get frustrated if a want is not supplied.
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If there is still a want, the ego is still around.
@@vollinaadkins8118 Why?
There will be no me with connection over this world. I am immortal and this body is mortal.
@@galaxymetta5974 The want can still be there but not as a serious emotional attachment. More like superficial expression of life.
After praising Balsekar ji to a friend he one day accompanied me to hear him.
Afterwards i asked him how did he find the talk, to which he said "few things he was right, but other what he said did not go down well" I asked him if he would like to come again & he said no.
There r people who come to check on Enlightened Masters' WISDOM.
Destined to happen so. 👌😂
How difficult it may be though it may be so easy..... Getting out of one's cage isn't easy.... Zeroing of expectations and rub off the unaware attachments is difficult unless detachment itself is the only way... Realisation is tough... So easy, but so difficult 🙏🙏
Danke aus Colorado!!
Hallo, ich denke du kannst deutsch. Ich habe auf meinem Kanal Videos über rameshs Konzepte auf deutsch. Wenn du magst schau es dir mal an. Danke🙏🏾
INCREDIBLY SIMPLE AND REASSURING ....WONDERFUL ....GODS HYPNOSIS/EGO
The underlying vibration of Love is the fulfill realisation.
Easily understood ...the love just flows from Ramesh’s heart.
I accept the concept.
Thank you for sharing. This is so helpful and explained so beautifully clear.... and entertaining! 🙏
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@@celia_matthews_ what you liked
Distinction between Thinking mind and Working mind at 50:33 ends at 52:08. Destiny at 1:20:20.
Free will is there
But it ends afterwards
Free will doesnt have unlimited boundaries
I am me.
I am everything.
I Am.
The Unborn is.
The answer is Awareness steps out of the Self.
Beautiful!!! Al Ham-du-Lillah!
In Buddhism ,through meditation it becomes clear that ,life is just a heap of continuous set of feelings,sensations n etc...and concepts v form through conditioning.and v have highjacked the feelings from all the input as i n mine! Thus ego is born.
The German enquirer is very authentic intelligent and true to his enquiry...he is saying .. how is the experience brought about...
Before to Question and Answers it was nice pointings,,,,Talks was about How one is after Self Realization,,,,questioners took to other way to Destiny😂😅Great people,,,The Subject is very awesome about Self realization and answer about it is also very nice understanding ❤
When the body is in transcendence you are so delicate. Someone blamed my deep compassion, so i broke down , hospita,, horrible pains in teh legs. Her one knows an easy recognicable compassion, mine is over 50 years, one can not see anything. So tehy think that I have no compassion. Tehy even do not know nor accept a transcendence of the body
Before realisation one is obsessed with building the Mansion and decorating it and expanding and remodeling so that it becomes the envy of his Neighbours . After enlightenment he never cares or feels the Mansion and even will not hesitate to leave it without any emotional or physical attachment . The Mansion is the physical body. The occupant is the enlightened soul.
You will take care for your body if that is your destiny beside the self realization. You could be a model and also be self realized. To imply otherwise would simply put some form of limitation to the whole idea/concept of God.
What is destroyed is not the sense of body being in awareness , it is the false drive for self affirmation .
I like his fatalistic view on reality. If it's all destiny then there's nothing to do but to let go.
Indeed. But to let go or not is also beyond our control.The letting go happens by Gods will.If it's not your destiny,then it won't happen no matter how hard the individual or the ego tries.Thats the whole paradox of it.t
1:04:55. "There is nothing to do except decide what you would want to do." The great Master, Ramesh Balsakar, frees the concept worshipping mind.
The actual quote: "There is nothing to do except decide what you want to do."
Well, you have to let go all of concepts too.
Having a theory about life/universe is a mistake
I agree with all this, I just want to add that creation has happened many times, 83 times, this is the 84 th creation. So the movie has played before, but it has been subject to slight differences. When you dream of a premonition or read a prophecy, you are not seeing the future, you are seeing the past. Nothing is set in stone, Karma can still change, if that is the will of God.
Where did you get the number 83 why not once or a billion
@@alextrusk1713 Because that's what Shiva said and Buddha and Sadhguru. I don't know mate. Ask them lol.
In Buddhism ,mind is described in two forms .The thinking mind and the emotional mind and most of us only react to emotions almost 99% of times,and it teaches u to work with the thinking mind,for that u have to be 100% conscious in all ur efforts ,instead of reacting unconsiously.this elimination of a so called Gods destiny.u choose ur destiny by living in the present moment consiously.
“There is an individual seeker made to think he is an individual seeker through God’s hypnosis, which is the ego.” 1:30 ... mic 🎤 drop
Jay Sri Hari
thank you for this beautiful teaching. what is the book he read from please?
"Who cares?"
His guru or teacher wrote a book called I Am That. You can buy that book. It is common. He follows a teaching called non-dual, also known as Advaita Vedanta. There are other teachers that teach non-dual also, like Ramana Maharshi. He also has many books you can read. It is a common philosophy that says that there is only one energy in existence. ☯️🕉
As an apps developer _ my biggest challenge is _ getting a user to answer _ what do you want?
What happens when you don't get the answer?
The enlightened is one who admits it.
Seeking is already happening
Life is seeking
Either seeking this or that
But not individual seeker
Individuality is divine hypnosis
All is one and one for all.
Hahaha. Cleaver play on words. And it true.
The faith in will of God > Kindness and Compassion > morality > religious dogma > religious war
If possible please make videos with subtitles. People like me can pause the video and read it..
I have been self realized by reading the bhagwat Gita , following g the teachings of swami ac Bhaktivedanta prabupada .
I canted the khrishna mantra every second of every moment . After 6 months I was self realized! It was amazing . I embraced humility ,discernment ,and greed jealousy did not existed as I was able to control my 5 senses . It is worth it
So u became poor.yu mean
You are sure ?? really?
@@artivedi3887 what is wealth ? What is this word poor ? Trump have his own 747 , Elon musk have his own spaceship , politicians are stealing more than the bankers and the bankers are stealing more than the common man , who goes to jail ?
When one mans wife fights about the size of swimming pool to buy the other man argues with his wife for buying clothes . Money is a great energy . But living in bliss is the end result of being rich is it not ?
@@Pfau1 why d we oils I not be sure ?
The key is conserving your energy to be able to energize your third eye to open , in the process your thoughts must be noble and one cannot have anger in your heart , so control of the mind is the first step .
You are not enlightened..you are deluded ....you say that you became enlightened after 6 months of chanting .. ridiculous ....chanting can't make one enlightened (only right understanding can ) and above all only a an immature ego can declare that it became enlightened!
I want to suggest that if you would change the word annihilation with transcendence....it would convey the real meaning of self realisation, and withtogether positivity, hope and purpose for further life....
The word annihilation emits a destructive meaning,,,..but its our identity, personality.....which cannot be crushed easily and i think we ourselves shouldn't destroy and forget it, but rather make our identity so useful (fruitful) and simple that it can help evoluting & surviving further generations of human, animals and plants. The joy of being attached and worthy of neighborhood, which you are leaving behind helps in alleviating from aatma to parmatma (physical death)......this is self realisation...
if I try to explain in simple words When I try to toss a coin, it's my decision, but the experiment's outcome is not in my control. Even if I try to cheat for the outcome in my favor, other factors such as, may be a strong wind/ surface where the coin falls could also contribute to the outcome. I am just an observer
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Well said,karmaye namaha,kriya is wht v are capable off not the final outcome,,even if it isn't in our hands tht shouldn't stop anyone to strive for,for whatever the distance covered towards our intended goal even if reached midway is an achievement
so when you toss a coin, you are a doer and decider. And when you watch coin spinning, you are observer
The coin had to be tossed ,you were the object to toss it.Then thought arises i will toss a coin.
Letting go (rather than giving up)?
Language is powerful nisgurdatta maharaj had powerful teaching language
Who cares whether one is enlightened or not? Those whose egos were not eradicated, those who are not self-realised, they care.
What is this "EGO" of which you speak, Sir?
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Is it not true that we just live life as it comes, and on the way also do your duties as a true and good human being. 🙏
God doesn't decide ur destiny .
Its u yourself who decides ur destiny by ur karmas. Today's actions r tomorrow's destiny.
Yes yes you are right. It is our karmas which decides our destiny. We can do karmas but the outcome of that karma cannot be decided by us.
We decide and do karmas to become a millionaire. It may happen or not happen. What happens is our destiny. Can we say.. I did karma for not becoming a millionaire? 😂
OR.. For not becoming a millionaire i did some bad karmas. 😂😂😂
If we are deciding our destiny.. We should be able to do the proper karmas to reach our decided goal no?
But is it happening always to all?
48:00 - 52:06 . Working Mind Vs Thinking Mind
Does anyone know when this particular meeting took place, I am curious because I think I know someone in the audience and to know the date would be helpful.
Check the beginning of this video.
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Sitting silently
Doing nothing
Spring comes
And the grass grows by itself
Is programing is NISTHA by Krishna? Thanks.
My action
His action
Yours action
Sense of doership gone, means it will not bother about.. Attachment density will not be there
Have gone through various available literature concerning self-realisation including religious ones, but none explains it. With due respect to the individual speaking, there are no answers here. If someone understood, good for them.
Probably the feeling of realisation itself may amount to be far from it. 🙏
thank you very much for saving my time. After reading your comment I dont need to watch the whole video. But still this man has often also valuable messages and I have great respect for him.
what answers you search? like "self-realisation is a potato"? Will any answer satisfy you?
"You are a God", "you are nothingness"
I question the concept of ego and, while not an enlightened person, which is my only certainty that what is absent must be imagination. How can I surrender to the will of God? Is God not just an idea? However, I can surrender to “' what is ”.
Is it possible to gain self realization without a master?? I live in the Tamma capital who all live towards the 3 gates, lost, anger an greed. Iv completely cut myself off an have to isolate. All ready what I know now an what iv learned even by the mind, I cannot go back, but I'm now stuck in no man's land, people think I'm mentally ill lol. With my burning devotion and everything I do now dedicated an I follow Krsnas advuce in the Gita. Is it possible to gain self realization possible without imitation or a master. Please can you please answer this for me has my Time I is not long. Thankyou🙏
Self-realisation is a stepping stone. You can have it by self-enquiry or denial of what is not permanent with or without a Master. Try it, don't worry about a Master. The Nature helps a true seeker to move ahead.
yes.
Must have total faith in the will of God but this kind of faith dissolves the person and there is a new way to perceive the world. A perception from Purity, of Purity and with Purity - God in Man is the new Identity..
Yaa people.die in the course
.if u understand dissolving
Ego vs working mind
Thinking mind vs identification with name and form
Thinking mind observes and judges
Working mind observes
Working mind says if fires put out..
Either my home or any
The questioner is really a beginner and Mr. Balsekar is not able to make it clear that if a self realized person wants something, if it is not fulfilled, does not get frustrated or upset. The self realized person is equanimous.
Ramesh was my teacher, but I agree with you haha.
Yes, it's not about absence of desire, it's simply being unattached to its fulfilment. Many such desires are not needs.. you don't need the new phone or whatever. It's just that you don't expect some acquisition to be the source of your happiness.. That doesn't stop you from enjoying it.
The eternity of this much beaten agenda perhaps links with innermost ego,that imperatives a thorough bashing in the lights of our Gurus ,who have devoted their whole life spans in gaining-ultimately. the essence.
Christ was the ultimate non-dual master:
"Remain in Me, and I will remain in you. Just as no branch can bear fruit by itself unless it remains in the vine, neither can you bear fruit unless you remain in Me. I am the vine and you are the branches. The one who remains in Me, and I in him, will bear much fruit. For apart from Me you can do nothing. If anyone does not remain in Me, he is like a branch that is thrown away and withers. Such branches are gathered up, thrown into the fire, and burned.…"
~ John 15:5
Yes i agree. But 🤔what was the timeline for Advaita -Nondual concepts in india and Jesus Christ?
Conning self and conning others.
Teach us the truth, O Wise One.
@@TheWorldTeacher What is there to teach ? What you known has already fortified you & you have no way to learn anything more...
It is not possible for you to unlearn as well
So live with the statement I made above in first comment..
Conning self to con others
The words phrases examples & body gestures used by the lecturer are all empty. They carry no meaning.
You have been taught and thus all your claims that you are claiming are just plain useless talks like barking of a dog or cheio of a bird or hiss of a cobra. It carry no meaning no matter which vocabulary you use..
Take my statement as it is or leave it & move on.
You Sir are not going to get anything neither those who are listening to your empty phrases and stories.
That is their Sorrow.
@@KuldeepPandita-kn9bx, PMS are the initials for “Premenstrual Syndrome”, which every woman (except, perhaps, Mama Maria) has at LEAST once a month, when she cannot control her moods and emotions.
And it seems from your impetuous and DISRESPECTFUL response, that you are experiencing some kind of premenstrual affliction, Slave?
@@TheWorldTeacher As I said it is impossible to give up .
You have no way to interpret my words other than the meaning you attach them.( Those meanings is what you have collected thus for).
If it happens to you somehow and you would realise somehow that you are a tape recorder ,throwing out what has been put in.Probably you have a faint chance to know that there is no self to realize and an enlightened person has no way to tell self that he is one.
Probably it would dawn upon you that how you sold stories to people.
I again say .. You have no way to know what you do not know and 3nd of ego is end of you.
The YOU in your is given by others.
You go on selling Shroudy Goodies to people. I am.ok with it .There is a demand and you are supplying the same.
My one line in first comment was brought to rip your knowing to bits and pieces and that you know very well
Having said that I know it is not possible for your to reform and thus same is true with your students 9r those who come to you for doing their living issues.
Good luck.
@@TheWorldTeacher According to Christian tradition, Mary, the mother of Jesus did not conceive but that does not mean she was not ABLE to conceive.
Cannot understand by words unless we experience it.
True. Like taste of a mango. You only "know" what it tastes like once it enters the mouth. Then the words of sweet, juicy etc make sense. Words always come later
@@KamranZParacha Maybe words are useful to know where to find a mango.
@@WeAreAllOneNature To an extent yes.
Before enlightenment; chop wood, carry water. After enlightenment; chop wood, carry water.
All sanatan and worldwide sects with five levels of Spiritual awareness
Each sect ultimately slowly and surely moves upto top level from Jeev to Adi.
Shaivya
Vaishnav
Adi Shakti
Sankhya
Christianity
Sufism
Buddhist
1) Adi , sda, Pra, Akshar, Shar, jeev🙏🙏🙏
2) Adi Shiv, Sda Shiv, Shankar, Mahesh Akshar, Rudr Shar, Jeev🙏🙏🙏
3) Adi Vishnu, Sda Vishnu, Pra Vishnu, Akshar, Shar, Jeev🙏🙏🙏
4) Adi Narayana, Sda Avadhoot/ Maha-Vishnu, Pra Vishnu, Akshar Mahesh, Shar Brahmaa, Jeev 🙏🙏🙏
5) Lord resurrected moksh ( Adi) , Holy father ( Sda); Holy Ghost ( pra) Son of God ( Akshar) ; Son of man ( Shar); Human ( Jeev).🙏🙏🙏
6) Adi Dev Hari & Adi Ma , Param- atma or Nishkaam Karmi; Vishnu & , Mahesh & Parvati, Brahmaa & Saraswati, Jeev atma 🙏🙏🙏
7) Adi Hari Krishna & Ma in Golok; Nishkaam Karm Sat Purush, Kutasth purush; Abhaas Purush, Dvij Purush, Jeev
8) Adi Hari Ram Divay Mani Purush & Ma Sita in Vakunth; Nishkaam or Sat Purush ; Uttam Purushv; Dvij Purush Jeev
I can't see a strong physical body with a strong realisation.of the soul.what happened to that