Barry is somone who can make a take than you can disagree with but because he stays consistent with his criteria you can understand where he is coming from.
For those who don’t know hockey I’ll label Wayne’s most insane. Points are the combines total of goals and assists. If you take away every goal Gretzky ever scored from his career points, he’d still rank 1st all time in points by like 500
When he stated that D Rose didn't deserve his MVP in 2011 I thought that was an absurd statement that merits further examination. To be frank that exponential leap that he made from the 08-09 season to the 10-11 season was so outstanding that he may have a had a case for MIP.
That's reasonable, but it's also reasonable to say he didn't deserve that MVP. LeBron absolutely dwarfed his numbers in 2011, and Dwight may have even had a better case too. He was by far the best center in the NBA, won dpoy, and shot almost 60% from the floor. Lebron had him beat in ppg, rpg, spg, bpg, fg% (by a LOT), win shares, win shares per 48, PER, and every defensive metric possible. Rose has more assists, was probably flashier and more exciting, and took a worse roster to a better record than LeBron. Those were the biggest factors
@@calvinsimpson1301 That's a viable argument for Lebron and Howard however for me it's contingent upon Rose's production increasing in the manner in only his sophomore season and him leading that Bulls team to 60 wins and first in the East (obviously not the stronger of the two conferences) but rather outstanding especially with the newly formed Miami Big 3 with practically no second viable scoring option on his team. By no means am I stating that he should have won in landslide and can see the validity in the arguments for both Lebron and Howard but to state it was undeserved is quite hyperbolic.
A Derrick rose who's second best player being Joakim Noah. Led the the bulls to the #1 seed with the stacked Miami heat team absolutely deserved the MVP. Lebron fans make me sick with that narrative.
Crazy how he says ja is still so young rn and we don’t know how he’s gonna turn out but rose was the same age when he won his mvp. Crazy how much potential was there, I really think if he’s had a healthy career he would be seen as a top 10 pg all time.
idk if rose have any potential. He just lost his athleticism, he couldve developed a jumper with his innate playmaking that still is an all star point guard. But his career did not turn out that well. He is basically zion all potential relies on their athleticism
Rose undeserving his MVP was a reach. boozer and noah missed a HUGE chunk of the RS and boozer was trash in the playoffs too averaging 12 points SO... Rose did a HUGE carry job giving this franchise the top seed in the league. Deserved MVP.
2:58 the gap between his assist record and second place is larger than the gap from second place to twelth place. He also played as many seasons as Jason Kidd, who is second place, and chris paul, third, has only played 2 less seasons and is not going to pass stockton, if he were to average 10 assists and play every game for the rest of his career he would need to play 6 more seasons to beat stockton. it's a similar story for his steals record. to say it's just "he played long time" isn't correct, especially since he only began to start most of his games in his fourth season. heck he's no.2 for assists per game, only behind magic (and if you ignore seasons where stockton started less than half his games his apg is equal to magics)(edited to add he also has magic beat in terms of assists per 100 possesions over his career by a margin). led the league in assists for nearly a decade as well. frankly he's properly rated if not a bit underrated by people who just assume he only holds those records because he played for a long time.
I’d argue Cp3 is extremely underrated at this point. The level of disrespect he gets is ridiculous in comparison to other ringless guards. He’s arguable still a top ten point
12:08 AI was on a team with no other scorers. He was the offense and the team was the defense. And if VC didn’t miss that shot. They wouldn’t have went to the finals.
@@housesuns-kings8480 It's the era he grew up with. Plus, as a sort of an influencer and youtuber, the media he's exposed to more make him love LeBron even more
he's a bronsexual , he makes guys like me who are Bron fans but are at least objective about his career look bad , love barry's content but i hate when he does that stuff
Though people forget that competition against MJ became not as highly regarded as others because he simply crushed them. And there wasn't anyone who could come close to him to be able to even do what KD did to stop LeBron by joining the Warriors, because he didn't allow anyone to rise to any occasion, he used to continuously crush people's aspirations even during normal rs games. Something that Bron was never able to do, probably for character. I think this might be, in fact, the most important factor of his "killer instinct": it was on Mike's will that none grew enough to be able to challenge him
Once I heard that voice I had to click off. Barry is on level with Stephen A and Skip and all those idiots who just say shit to say shit and use certain jargon to make it sound like they know what they're talking about. I obviously don't disagree with everything he says but none of it comes from a true passion and appreciation for a sport like Jxmy or someone like that it just comes from the social media disease that just mind numbingly generic and opinion based yet displayed as factually based.
Rose was one of those players if you watched you understood. He would take Howard to the rim possession after possession and get the and 1 on the dpoy when Howard alone could stop entire offensive game schemes. You either know why he got the mvp by or you look at the #'s and think you understood the game over a decade ago. Record matters, Rose deserves it and that's just my opinion.
Iverson is so overrated, his entire career is based on the 2001 Season, that's it, he got past the 2nd Round once even tho he was one of the weakest conference ever in Basketball
On minute 7 I knew for sure he is a lebron fan because on his comment on overating stockton to so people can say Jordan had it tougth winning the ring and then his comment fsvoring Draymond and against curry lol
Also bro could you do a Kobe KG team up career sim? Before the lakers got Pau they wanted KG but KG himself said “Kobe didn’t call me” if you haven’t done this already
I think CP3 is legit objectively worse than Stockton. John got more stats than him, and yet, even if was a playoff looser like CP3, at least didn't sold 3-1 leads, and in the end he came two times in the finals, to CP one. So, Stockton way way underrated in my book
Homie goes back and forth between LeBron and Jordan all-time and thinks Steph is top 10 all time but Kobe isn’t and people think he has good takes lmfao
I dont like barry. He has an extreme bias towards bron. He undermines older nba players and players today, but cant think of a bad thing to say about bron
Fun fact AI wasn’t to make it to the finals 😂it was Rey Allen bucks that year but the nba didn’t wanted a small market team to face Kobe n shaq and AI would bring more viewers. It was rigged. AI is overrated.
Objectively he is overrated. He had one good year but people call him a Hall of famer because “IF” he was good. I understand his injury was sad and out of his control but by that logic every player who would have been goated “IF” they didn’t suffer injuries in nba history should be hall of famers
@@ghostaccountlmao Eh even if you agree peak Kawhi is above Durant (hot take on its own) he's been healthy as a number 1 option for 2 playoff runs in his career. It would be interesting to see how people would rank Kawhi if he did get a chip with the clips tho.
@Orange Juice i respect his solo accomplishments in the timberwolves I’d say that part he’s “properly rated”Just pushing the fact that he overrated that one championship too much. They underperformed as a super team.
Aight let me argue some shit about Draymond Green. He is basically the modern day Robert Horry only he is only getting his rings from one team(as of now). Neither had AMAZING stats but did things to make the team better over all. Now with this said just like Robert Horry is not and should not be in the HoF neither should Green.
Barry has some legitimately good takes despite being a borderline satire channel. He knows his shit
he does research
Barry makes fire content would love to see more reacts of their stuff
Fax
he could be pretty ehhhhh
Barry is somone who can make a take than you can disagree with but because he stays consistent with his criteria you can understand where he is coming from.
Yeah a LeBron dickriding criteria
For those who don’t know hockey I’ll label Wayne’s most insane. Points are the combines total of goals and assists. If you take away every goal Gretzky ever scored from his career points, he’d still rank 1st all time in points by like 500
When he stated that D Rose didn't deserve his MVP in 2011 I thought that was an absurd statement that merits further examination. To be frank that exponential leap that he made from the 08-09 season to the 10-11 season was so outstanding that he may have a had a case for MIP.
That's reasonable, but it's also reasonable to say he didn't deserve that MVP. LeBron absolutely dwarfed his numbers in 2011, and Dwight may have even had a better case too. He was by far the best center in the NBA, won dpoy, and shot almost 60% from the floor.
Lebron had him beat in ppg, rpg, spg, bpg, fg% (by a LOT), win shares, win shares per 48, PER, and every defensive metric possible. Rose has more assists, was probably flashier and more exciting, and took a worse roster to a better record than LeBron. Those were the biggest factors
@@calvinsimpson1301 That's a viable argument for Lebron and Howard however for me it's contingent upon Rose's production increasing in the manner in only his sophomore season and him leading that Bulls team to 60 wins and first in the East (obviously not the stronger of the two conferences) but rather outstanding especially with the newly formed Miami Big 3 with practically no second viable scoring option on his team. By no means am I stating that he should have won in landslide and can see the validity in the arguments for both Lebron and Howard but to state it was undeserved is quite hyperbolic.
A Derrick rose who's second best player being Joakim Noah. Led the the bulls to the #1 seed with the stacked Miami heat team absolutely deserved the MVP. Lebron fans make me sick with that narrative.
@@u_tried2040 Prime IT did the same exact thing back in 2017 yet he get no praise 😢
@@orangejuice20133 Got 3rd in mvp that year voting but the Celtics eventually did him wrong during the same off-season.
Love your vids clique
Crazy how he says ja is still so young rn and we don’t know how he’s gonna turn out but rose was the same age when he won his mvp. Crazy how much potential was there, I really think if he’s had a healthy career he would be seen as a top 10 pg all time.
Also mvp vs mvp stats r diff from 2011 to now. Scoring was so much lower back then
idk if rose have any potential. He just lost his athleticism, he couldve developed a jumper with his innate playmaking that still is an all star point guard. But his career did not turn out that well. He is basically zion all potential relies on their athleticism
He should checkout the Barry’s “assessment of the Defense Jordan faced in the 90’s. It’s hilarious and a lil eye opening
Oh really 🤔
Rose undeserving his MVP was a reach. boozer and noah missed a HUGE chunk of the RS and boozer was trash in the playoffs too averaging 12 points SO... Rose did a HUGE carry job giving this franchise the top seed in the league. Deserved MVP.
2:58 the gap between his assist record and second place is larger than the gap from second place to twelth place. He also played as many seasons as Jason Kidd, who is second place, and chris paul, third, has only played 2 less seasons and is not going to pass stockton, if he were to average 10 assists and play every game for the rest of his career he would need to play 6 more seasons to beat stockton. it's a similar story for his steals record. to say it's just "he played long time" isn't correct, especially since he only began to start most of his games in his fourth season. heck he's no.2 for assists per game, only behind magic (and if you ignore seasons where stockton started less than half his games his apg is equal to magics)(edited to add he also has magic beat in terms of assists per 100 possesions over his career by a margin). led the league in assists for nearly a decade as well. frankly he's properly rated if not a bit underrated by people who just assume he only holds those records because he played for a long time.
I’d argue Cp3 is extremely underrated at this point. The level of disrespect he gets is ridiculous in comparison to other ringless guards. He’s arguable still a top ten point
My boy he a top 3 point of all time imo
12:08 AI was on a team with no other scorers. He was the offense and the team was the defense. And if VC didn’t miss that shot. They wouldn’t have went to the finals.
Barry is one of the people who I disagree somewhat but I still watch because he makes level headed arguments and is just fun to watch.
you gotta admit he either is a troll or has a huge crush on lebron
@@housesuns-kings8480 true, like its like very obvious he doesn't like michael jordan
@@housesuns-kings8480 It's the era he grew up with. Plus, as a sort of an influencer and youtuber, the media he's exposed to more make him love LeBron even more
@@housesuns-kings8480 having bron as the goat is having a crush on him?
@@Hunterchameil has him #2 all time, how is that hating lol
Pg is most definitely underrated
bro keeps bringing up MJ
he's a bronsexual , he makes guys like me who are Bron fans but are at least objective about his career look bad , love barry's content but i hate when he does that stuff
rent free in his head
stockton is literally the 2nd highest apg all time and was actually a really good defender. this dude is wilin.
Stockton got all those assist at a time when the game was played much slower too, Plus he's the all-time steal leader. No respect.
It's fucking Barry mccockiner lmao the notorious troll
Love these type of videos keep it up
4:25 TRIGGERED 😂😂😂😂😂
Reminding clique to make a what if Larry Hughes was really the next goat
Though people forget that competition against MJ became not as highly regarded as others because he simply crushed them. And there wasn't anyone who could come close to him to be able to even do what KD did to stop LeBron by joining the Warriors, because he didn't allow anyone to rise to any occasion, he used to continuously crush people's aspirations even during normal rs games. Something that Bron was never able to do, probably for character. I think this might be, in fact, the most important factor of his "killer instinct": it was on Mike's will that none grew enough to be able to challenge him
Do a Clayton Crowley video next Clique
Ayyy Happy Clique enjoys Barry's content
The way the young generation speak about Stockton. Stockton’s very very underrated.
Skipping ohtani honestly made me butthurt. The lack of respect and love bro gets in the sports industry is insane and I’m not even a baseball fan
Barry’s the GOAT, Clique you’ve got to react to more of his stuff.
Good video💯🔥🔥
The ultimate crossover 🙏
Clique making a fye vid
The Babe Ruth comment "it look like he makes a mean sub" crying
It’s a good day when Clique uploads
9:14 holy crap, that's me!
Once I heard that voice I had to click off. Barry is on level with Stephen A and Skip and all those idiots who just say shit to say shit and use certain jargon to make it sound like they know what they're talking about. I obviously don't disagree with everything he says but none of it comes from a true passion and appreciation for a sport like Jxmy or someone like that it just comes from the social media disease that just mind numbingly generic and opinion based yet displayed as factually based.
I never even heard of this dude until this video
I agree tho id definitely rather listen to jxmmy or clayton crowley or kenny or someone lol
@@incognitomosquito3120 This video is actually pretty mild for him, go on his twitter and its just meme lord BS that people drool over
@@timlett99 damn
That sounds worse than nick wright and rob parker combined lol
@@incognitomosquito3120 This is a very factual statement lmfao
Finally, a Barry reaction!
Ayo clique make a video about what type of content interests u and let us give you video ideas and you can always update what your into
Derrick rose basketball IQ is off the cart's
That's why he still in the nba
Rose was one of those players if you watched you understood. He would take Howard to the rim possession after possession and get the and 1 on the dpoy when Howard alone could stop entire offensive game schemes. You either know why he got the mvp by or you look at the #'s and think you understood the game over a decade ago. Record matters, Rose deserves it and that's just my opinion.
Iverson is so overrated, his entire career is based on the 2001 Season, that's it, he got past the 2nd Round once even tho he was one of the weakest conference ever in Basketball
The Clique Barry crossover event. Can sports on UA-cam handle it?
On minute 7 I knew for sure he is a lebron fan because on his comment on overating stockton to so people can say Jordan had it tougth winning the ring and then his comment fsvoring Draymond and against curry lol
Draymond is Really overrated but because of the system that he is now that system fits him and he is a key part of it thats why he is need it.
Paul pierce is my favorite player and I appreciate u not hating on the man's.
Man was dropping DOOM verses
I get hyped for no reason when my comment on T-Mac pops up 😂😂😂
the dude is a hter of MJ too lmao
Barry videos are hilarious. Glad your reacting to them.
This dude is clearly a lebron fan. His opinions= Stockton overrated cause of jordan fans, draymonds overrated cause of steph fans, Lebrons underrated?
That's crazy fr fr and I'm a LeBron fan 💀😭😭
Idk if you’re already planning on it but Clayton Crowley makes awesome videos. Would be cool to see your opinions
bro clique need to see his video fr
Kawhi is underated as he is overshadowed by Lebron and kd but tbh I want kawhi over kd
I feel everything Clique said about KG much more aptly applies to Tmac tbch
Shoutout MFDOOM kmfaoooo
Also bro could you do a Kobe KG team up career sim? Before the lakers got Pau they wanted KG but KG himself said “Kobe didn’t call me” if you haven’t done this already
underrated
Clique is underrated
I think CP3 is legit objectively worse than Stockton. John got more stats than him, and yet, even if was a playoff looser like CP3, at least didn't sold 3-1 leads, and in the end he came two times in the finals, to CP one. So, Stockton way way underrated in my book
Homie goes back and forth between LeBron and Jordan all-time and thinks Steph is top 10 all time but Kobe isn’t and people think he has good takes lmfao
t mac made it to the finals with the spurs
Yooo I made it in a clique video!! I mean he skipped my comment but hey I'll take it lol
barry is hillarious
Why ya gotta keep skipping tho?
Drose is super overrated! People feel bad that he got hurt even though other players get hurt and come back still good.🤷🏾♂️
7:30 its not very impressive when thybulle does it though is it lol
Barry McCockener is a god content wise
Start bench cut
Anfere Simmons julias Randle Tyresse maxey
Start Simons Bench Maxey Cut Randle
Start Simons at PG, Start Tyrese Maxey at SG, Start Randle at PF…
I dont like barry. He has an extreme bias towards bron. He undermines older nba players and players today, but cant think of a bad thing to say about bron
i mean, he’s doing a bit lol
@@drstaylit he does it in every video tho 😂
Day 3 of Asking CliqueProductions for a Jeremy Lin career resimulation (Posted to CliqueClips)
Vick underrated
Yoooo watching Barry 😂😂
Embiid/jokic didn’t get cover athlete cuz Devin booker is American and embiid and jokic aren’t
KG is Duncan with worse teammates (except the Celtics) and more hype
Fun fact AI wasn’t to make it to the finals 😂it was Rey Allen bucks that year but the nba didn’t wanted a small market team to face Kobe n shaq and AI would bring more viewers. It was rigged. AI is overrated.
I really hope Derrick Rose isn't overrated :)
Objectively he is overrated. He had one good year but people call him a Hall of famer because “IF” he was good.
I understand his injury was sad and out of his control but by that logic every player who would have been goated “IF” they didn’t suffer injuries in nba history should be hall of famers
@@Arturo_Kilgore_Morgan I think he has a shot to win if he gets a ship
@@Arturo_Kilgore_Morgan yeah. In that case, Greg Oden should be in the hall of fame
@@Arturo_Kilgore_Morgan id say more than one, at least 1 1/2, he is pretty overrated tho
I hope he reacts to more of Barry videos
KD underrated
Bro had Draymond as underrated and DRose as overrated. L video from OG channel
barry is always so funny
Please don't tell me you're a kd hater clique 🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️
Hi clique
Why would I subscribe to a guy who doesn't know who anyone is?
lol theres no argument for pg in the top 75 bro pg fans are delusional
I’m overrated
Clique X Barry. Love to see it
Drose was smart, and had poise but blew his knees out 😂 bruh clearly wasn't playing smart or with control if he destroyed his knees.
Nah, them Adidas shoes fucked him up.
@@Ayo601 ahhhh you right you right that's why I trust Nike. Checks over stripes 🔥
@@JaytT1197 always 💯🎯😂
Exactly
Kawhi over KD is a scorching hot take
It's not tbh. If Kawhi gets a chip with the clips and he'll be up there with Steph
@@ghostaccountlmao Eh even if you agree peak Kawhi is above Durant (hot take on its own) he's been healthy as a number 1 option for 2 playoff runs in his career.
It would be interesting to see how people would rank Kawhi if he did get a chip with the clips tho.
@@juicyeboi9006 fr
Bro are you that young not to know some of these dudes or are you just a hoop guy and nothing else smh come on bro lol but your vid’s are goated
Bron overrated
Bro react to more Barry vids. Like triggering every nba fanbase and stuff like that.
I legitimately can’t tell if Barry is trolling when he calls LeBron underrated.
bron is the most hated athlete ever lol, he’s underrated
@@ryedye335 true idk if he's underrated tho
Dude. If you're gonna talk sports.. you should know a little bit about sports. How many times did you say "idk who that is"
Brady too overrated
Kawhi could never be better than KD
dawg i was the 69th like
Ugh
nah KG is overrated cuz he overrates himself. (We broke Lebron lmao) they only won one championship while stroking their egos like they won a 3 peat
Nah his good go back to his prime in 04
@Orange Juice i respect his solo accomplishments in the timberwolves I’d say that part he’s “properly rated”Just pushing the fact that he overrated that one championship too much. They underperformed as a super team.
@@hct4598 oh yea I agree with you, those Celtics teams were overrated asf
@@hct4598 fax 💯🎯
Aight let me argue some shit about Draymond Green. He is basically the modern day Robert Horry only he is only getting his rings from one team(as of now). Neither had AMAZING stats but did things to make the team better over all. Now with this said just like Robert Horry is not and should not be in the HoF neither should Green.
green is a top 10 defender all time. def a hof