If you listen (and you don't need to listen very carefully) to "Maria Moita", a 1964 song by the Brazilian Carlos Lyra, you will know where exactly the unscrupulous and cynical Ritchie Blackmoore got the famous riff...😅
Brazilian here. I don't think it's plagiarism but an inspiration, the big problem is not recognizing that it was inspired by Maria Moita's riff by Carlos Lira in 1964 (www.youtube.be/watch?v=xokONwQUa6M), I have the impression that admitting this is diminishing his song for him, because it was inspired by a song by another genre and who came from a "minor" country.
If it was with Beethoven I would say it's inspiration because it's kinda of far apart from Blackmore's riff, but still kinda similar, whilst Maria Moita's riff from Carlos Lyra is almost copied exactly note for note, so I say plagiarism
No is not, i have listened to Beethoven since I was a teenager and Have never pay any attention to Maria Moita. So thinking that everyone has to revolved around a Brazilian song is just nuts. Im a rock guy myself and affirming that is from Brazil is nuts. Inspiration comes from anywhere anything. If can be? Of course it could've, but this guy right here has proven that it could've come from Beethoven. So stop the b*sh*t!!
A lot of of pathetic comments here. Your impression is just your opinion and a lack of selfworth or projecting something " racist" to Blackmore, he is just taking the piss, that swhat he does.
Blackmore claimed it came from Beethoven just to distract us from the fact that he stole it from a guitar player from Brazil named Carlos Lyra on his song Maria Moita. It was a smoke screen! 🤣
Theresa guitar player from brazil called carlos lyra and played the exact riff of smoke on the water on his maria molta version. This was written in 1964
Melhor ouvir isso, é muito mais real - ua-cam.com/video/O80ebaqeNtk/v-deo.html - Carlos Lira - 1964 / Maria Moita - Deep Purple - 1971 / Smoke On The Water - "Nada se cria tudo se copia"
I'm sorry, but Beethoven wasn't Blackman's influence. Actually, was a Brazilian Bossa Nova composer, Carlos Lyra, the real writer: ua-cam.com/video/xokONwQUa6M/v-deo.html
@@izaklitwar1509 Just a fact, and it's not the only one, Black Sabbath stole a riff from other brazilian song, Sabbath Bloody Sabbath it's a copy from "Vanusa - What You Do" m.ua-cam.com/video/6WzFgVaA4oI/v-deo.html
@@izaklitwar1509 The song was covered by Astrud Gilberto as "Maria Quiet", and Gilberto was a star in the 60s even beyond Brazil due to "The Girl from Ipanema". So it's highly likely that Blackmore heard that song. The similarity is too obvious.
smoke on the water is actually a plagiarism of a brazilian song released 7 years earlier. sad how they just dont gaf abt brazil and just steal shit thinking nothing will happen (as it didnt) edit: if u wanna check the original song: CARLOS LYRA - Maria Moita (1964)
Smoking on the Water riff was "stolen" or at least inspired from de Bossa Nova music Maria Moita from Carlos Lyra, Lyra composed his song in 1964. Listen the both musics take your own conclusion. ua-cam.com/users/results?search_query=carlos+lyra+maria+moita.
It is plagiarism from a Brazilian song, just that. Blackmoore was brilliant...also in his ironies , Beethoven lol! ua-cam.com/video/xokONwQUa6M/v-deo.html
That has got to be the most famous guitar riff in Rock music. Did you know the bom bom BOM was a beheading? It's someone's head bouncing after after being chopped off. I learned that in music appreciation class in the 7th grade. I think after that it gets into the crowd's reaction at having watched it. And interestingly enough, the song is about a hotel fire when they were touring Europe. Who knew Death and Destruction would allow for such an iconic song?
What a crap to say. Nine seconds intro with some small similarities in sound but to say Blackmore listened to this song and copied the riff (?). Ha, ha, ha. You have to know that Richie Blackmore has been educated in classic music and of course he has listened to Beethoven. Btw, the plagiarism as some here insinuate would never hold in the court!!
Musicians can be influenced by many things, including other musicians music. However, the link here to Beethoven is very tenuous, Blackmore could just as easily been influenced by a car backfiring. There are only 12 notes in a scale and so they will be repeated in all sorts of music constantly.
Blackmore probably had the Maria Moita riff in mind while also combining it with Beethoven's Fifth Symphony. It's really no different than 90% of rock bands in the 70s and 80s combining Chuck Berry with Hendrix with Zeppelin. And all three of these mainly "borrowed" from older blues and country artists. The Beatles were huge fans of Ernest Tubb and borrowed from his songs. Johnny Cash was the inspiration for many hard rock bands. Elvis borrowed from blues singers and then inspired Roger Daltrey and many other singers of the British Invasion bands. Blackmore has said that several of his riffs are variations of other songs he heard. Black Night, Pictures of Home, Lazy, he heard those riffs somewhere else and put his own spin on them.
I'm just learning this piece of history when I Googled what Smoke On the Water meant. With all this that followed the meaning, for me, it's Utterly Brilliant!! 🤘🏻🎸
@@danielfelicianoferreira8294 all of todays music is “plagiarized” from so many sources and from classical music. I’m sure if the band that wrote Maria Moira thought they had a case, they would have long ago sued. Or maybe Deep Purple had permission. Intellectual property law is quite complicated.
Fun fact, Walter pianos that Beethoven came to prefer had an iron frame that was well suited to a stronger hand. Beethoven’s struggle with the 'unsatisfactory instrument' with later sonatas designed to take full advantage of this new technology, would gradually become almost symphonic in their expressive power. Allegedly, the second movement, a slower andante, of Symphony No. 5 in C Minor, op. 67, was dedicated in part to Gabriel Anton Walter, who was described as "the most famous Viennese piano maker of his time", produced the rich sound which was coined the "slow moving Walter" by the fire brigades tasked with saving these instruments during fires because they were so heavy.... 😉 Slow moving Walter - fire engine guy...
NO, HE DID NOT, NOT EVEN A NOTE. IT WAS WRITTEN BY A BRAZILIAN BOSSA NOVA MUSICIAN AND THE NAME OF THE SONG IS MARIA MOITA BY CARLOS LYRA, RITCHIE BLACKMORE JUST MADE A COPY, AND VOILA!
roubou essa música do Brasil do Carlos Lyra e tem a cara de pau de dizer que se inspirou em Bethovem, a música é maria moita, é um verdadeiro cara de pau desse cara ainda falar isso
This song is a plagiarism from the famous Brazilian musicians Tom Jobim and Carlos Lyra, called Maria Moita. Maria Moita was composed in 1964, while Smoke in the Water was composed in 1972. Listen to Maria Moita and compare both songs: Tom Jobim and Carlos Lyra's song is wonderful and smoke in the water is a trash.
5:05 Ritchie owes no royalties to Ludwig for the 5th. Ritchie was just boasting about how much money he made with Smoke On The Water. Gotta love that British (or Ritchie's) humor. lol
Brazilians are really mad about the lack of reconizing on the great Carlos Lyra. By the occam´s razor theory, the brazilian composer is the inspiration, and all the mind twist we have to make just to kinda understand what Blackmore said, that just don´t make sense.
wow! thanks for the explanations! i know this statement by Blackmore and i wondered how the fifth would sound backwards. i'm not a musician so there was no way for me to render it. i have finally got the answer.
I know Americans are in your face too much but man parliament rally take their time getting to the true point. Maybe I’m just info needy haha. Thanks for the info though means a lot !
It might be helpful if you listen to Astrud Gilberto "Little Maria"… Of course,, it could be that Ritchie honestly forgot where he heard the riff - or he could just deliberately invent the derivation from the "Beethoven 5" to avoid copyright issues…
Backwards it sounds like the opening riff to "Iron Man" By Black Sabbath. Ironically the guitarist Tony Iommi looks just like Richy Blackmore of Deep Purple. Or maybe it's the same person? LOL After all back then there was a lot of Inter band swapping going on. LOL
actually you are not taking the right note reversely:if you isolate the four notes of Beethoven without the repetitions you get 4 notes, and if you reverse the last three you have the intro riff, and the fourth note comes later after a small fill of one note, but it remains amazing that another guy had found this pathway too - so it remains confusing - Ritchie really took a lot of ideas from other musicians
It seems over thought to me, I guess that is how ritchie blackmore writes. If you change what notes you are playing, and the rhythm it seems completely un related to me, but I guess that Is how some people think about music. I still don't see a connection between the two songs. Must be a matter of perception.
He said it was based on a variation of an inversion- inverting Beethoven creates the necessary notes, and varying the rhythm and what order the notes are played created the riff. It was (and still is) a common way for writers to come up with stuff and change stuff that has been previously written to come up with new ideas
Seems like a stretch and trying to find something that is not there. Ultimately if you turn and shuffle things around you can compare any 2 songs, he just stole it
the most famous guitar riff in Rock music = CARLOS LYRA - Maria Moita (1964)
Bull...!!!!!!!!
Its the same thing. Thats a fact.
@larsliamvilhelmno
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Bro saw this on a shorts💀
Check the song Maria Moita (1964) from Carlos Lyra and it will finish any question where Smoke on the Water came from.
No
É verdade
No and no.
@@izaklitwar1509 😂
you have to be deaf not to realize it comes from that song
the riff was actually stolen from brazilian bossa nova... CARLOS LYRA - Maria Moita
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If you move all Bethoven notes and play Maria Moita you have Smoke on the Water
hahahaa exactly. What a ridiculous excuse kkk
5:05 He definitely owe Carlos Lyra a LOT of money. ;-)
@@mikeybaloney2768 He will won to Tom Jobim, as he was the one who came up with the intro. But still.. :)
@@MarcoCastilloWorld I think you'll find that Carlos Lyra and Vinicius deMoraes wrote Maria Moita.
All of this just to deny that they actually stole it from the famous bossa nova song called "Maria Moita", wrote in the 60s by Carlos Lyra...
No way!
Yup.
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Haha it's true.
100% I couldn't believe but its true
If you listen (and you don't need to listen very carefully) to "Maria Moita", a 1964 song by the Brazilian Carlos Lyra, you will know where exactly the unscrupulous and cynical Ritchie Blackmoore got the famous riff...😅
...plus Ritchie Blackmore has been feeding journalists with "silly" info for ages,so these interviews shouldn't be taken too seriously.
Brazilian here. I don't think it's plagiarism but an inspiration, the big problem is not recognizing that it was inspired by Maria Moita's riff by Carlos Lira in 1964 (www.youtube.be/watch?v=xokONwQUa6M), I have the impression that admitting this is diminishing his song for him, because it was inspired by a song by another genre and who came from a "minor" country.
If it was with Beethoven I would say it's inspiration because it's kinda of far apart from Blackmore's riff, but still kinda similar, whilst Maria Moita's riff from Carlos Lyra is almost copied exactly note for note, so I say plagiarism
No is not, i have listened to Beethoven since I was a teenager and Have never pay any attention to Maria Moita. So thinking that everyone has to revolved around a Brazilian song is just nuts. Im a rock guy myself and affirming that is from Brazil is nuts. Inspiration comes from anywhere anything. If can be? Of course it could've, but this guy right here has proven that it could've come from Beethoven. So stop the b*sh*t!!
Dude, it's the exact same notes and interval of Maria Moita, lol@@AuslanIz
A lot of of pathetic comments here. Your impression is just your opinion and a lack of selfworth or projecting something " racist" to Blackmore, he is just taking the piss, that swhat he does.
Blackmore claimed it came from Beethoven just to distract us from the fact that he stole it from a guitar player from Brazil named Carlos Lyra on his song Maria Moita. It was a smoke screen! 🤣
@mikeybaloney2768
5:05 He definitely owe Carlos Lyra a LOT of money. ;-)
Just a correction, the intro was added by Tom Jobim..
@@MarcoCastilloWorld Where do you keep getting Jobim out of this?
Theresa guitar player from brazil called carlos lyra and played the exact riff of smoke on the water on his maria molta version. This was written in 1964
Actually this riff is a copy of Carlos Lyra’s song Maria Moita, beethoven has nothing to do with it
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Maria Moita Carlos Lyra. Not Beethoven
No.
@@izaklitwar1509???
I'm sorry, but Beethoven wasn't Blackman's influence. Actually, was a Brazilian Bossa Nova composer, Carlos Lyra, the real writer:
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I didn't know that Carlos Lira had the last name bethoven
Nah, Smoke on the water is just a copy of Maria Moita, from Carlos Lyra.
Funny to see so many South Americans here insinuating that Blackmore stole the riff. Pure crap to say.
@@izaklitwar1509 it's a fact, just listen the song...
@@izaklitwar1509 not all south americans, brazilians are delusional
@@izaklitwar1509 Just a fact, and it's not the only one, Black Sabbath stole a riff from other brazilian song, Sabbath Bloody Sabbath it's a copy from "Vanusa - What You Do" m.ua-cam.com/video/6WzFgVaA4oI/v-deo.html
@@izaklitwar1509 The song was covered by Astrud Gilberto as "Maria Quiet", and Gilberto was a star in the 60s even beyond Brazil due to "The Girl from Ipanema". So it's highly likely that Blackmore heard that song. The similarity is too obvious.
smoke on the water is actually a plagiarism of a brazilian song released 7 years earlier. sad how they just dont gaf abt brazil and just steal shit thinking nothing will happen (as it didnt)
edit: if u wanna check the original song: CARLOS LYRA - Maria Moita (1964)
You have to polish this Richie Blackmoore's poker face when he says he was inspired by Beethoven and shamelessly copied Carlos Lyra's bossa nova
Smoking on the Water riff was "stolen" or at least inspired from de Bossa Nova music Maria Moita from Carlos Lyra, Lyra composed his song in 1964. Listen the both musics take your own conclusion. ua-cam.com/users/results?search_query=carlos+lyra+maria+moita.
Thank you. Keep making interesting content like this. And for every 1 bad comment there are 1000 that love you. I appreciate your work.
It is plagiarism from a Brazilian song, just that. Blackmoore was brilliant...also in his ironies , Beethoven lol! ua-cam.com/video/xokONwQUa6M/v-deo.html
Richie was just F***ing with people.
That has got to be the most famous guitar riff in Rock music. Did you know the bom bom BOM was a beheading? It's someone's head bouncing after after being chopped off. I learned that in music appreciation class in the 7th grade. I think after that it gets into the crowd's reaction at having watched it. And interestingly enough, the song is about a hotel fire when they were touring Europe. Who knew Death and Destruction would allow for such an iconic song?
It was actually a casino fire.
@@boataxe4605 it sure was, “they burned down the gambling house”
@@jef159 it was a casino boat actually so you're both right ☝🏼👍🏼
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That's some music appreciation class! 🤘
That's why Beethoven so influential
Why?
@@gregkis wdym why😂
Yeah. Very!
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Nah, Smoke on the water is just a copy of Maria Moita, from Carlos Lyra.
@@gregkis Because you can use his name to avoid giving credit to the real song... 😂
A song from Brazil.
He came up with this (absurd) explanation to avoid paying the rights to the brasilian Carlos Lyra…
exactly!
What a crap to say. Nine seconds intro with some small similarities in sound but to say Blackmore listened to this song and copied the riff (?). Ha, ha, ha. You have to know that Richie Blackmore has been educated in classic music and of course he has listened to Beethoven. Btw, the plagiarism as some here insinuate would never hold in the court!!
if his inversion defense won in court - that makes it real legally
Doubt he would have to pay when he took something and moved shit around to make something else it's called recycling
@@izaklitwar1509 you have to be deaf not to realize it comes from that song
Ritchie just said that to F$@# with people. That's his sense of humour.
Musicians can be influenced by many things, including other musicians music.
However, the link here to Beethoven is very tenuous, Blackmore could just as easily been influenced by a car backfiring. There are only 12 notes in a scale and so they will be repeated in all sorts of music constantly.
Blackmore probably had the Maria Moita riff in mind while also combining it with Beethoven's Fifth Symphony. It's really no different than 90% of rock bands in the 70s and 80s combining Chuck Berry with Hendrix with Zeppelin. And all three of these mainly "borrowed" from older blues and country artists. The Beatles were huge fans of Ernest Tubb and borrowed from his songs. Johnny Cash was the inspiration for many hard rock bands. Elvis borrowed from blues singers and then inspired Roger Daltrey and many other singers of the British Invasion bands. Blackmore has said that several of his riffs are variations of other songs he heard. Black Night, Pictures of Home, Lazy, he heard those riffs somewhere else and put his own spin on them.
RIP to all the headphone users during the outro
Well done, you took the time to experiment Ritchie's claim!
I'm glad somebody explained this in detail
Really interesting and thank you for the explanation!
My pleasure!
I'm just learning this piece of history when I Googled what Smoke On the Water meant.
With all this that followed the meaning, for me, it's Utterly Brilliant!! 🤘🏻🎸
sorry it is a plagiarism from a Brazilian song: Maria Moira, you will be surprised
@@danielfelicianoferreira8294 all of todays music is “plagiarized” from so many sources and from classical music. I’m sure if the band that wrote Maria Moira thought they had a case, they would have long ago sued. Or maybe Deep Purple had permission. Intellectual property law is quite complicated.
@@danielfelicianoferreira8294Maria Moita (1964) By Carlos Lyra ( arrangements by erudite composer Radamés Gnattali)
Fun fact, Walter pianos that Beethoven came to prefer had an iron frame that was well suited to a stronger hand. Beethoven’s struggle with the 'unsatisfactory instrument' with later sonatas designed to take full advantage of this new technology, would gradually become almost symphonic in their expressive power. Allegedly, the second movement, a slower andante, of Symphony No. 5 in C Minor, op. 67, was dedicated in part to Gabriel Anton Walter, who was described as "the most famous Viennese piano maker of his time", produced the rich sound which was coined the "slow moving Walter" by the fire brigades tasked with saving these instruments during fires because they were so heavy....
😉
Slow moving Walter - fire engine guy...
That’s totally inspired by Beethoven.
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@@slippery_slobber great find!
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Astrud Gilberto - Maria Quiet ....intro riff from 'Smoke' came from there with a variation. Ritchie is toying with the interviewer, maybe to divert.
Maria Moita
@@DizzyMakavelliBy Carlos Lyra & Radamés Gnattali
@@tamy7718 Yep
NO, HE DID NOT, NOT EVEN A NOTE. IT WAS WRITTEN BY A BRAZILIAN BOSSA NOVA MUSICIAN AND THE NAME OF THE SONG IS MARIA MOITA BY CARLOS LYRA, RITCHIE BLACKMORE JUST MADE A COPY, AND VOILA!
Thank you so much for breaking this down!
roubou essa música do Brasil do Carlos Lyra e tem a cara de pau de dizer que se inspirou em Bethovem, a música é maria moita, é um verdadeiro cara de pau desse cara ainda falar isso
the talk guitar ratio is fantastic pls keep the fun facts in future vids u cool fellow
This song is a plagiarism from the famous Brazilian musicians Tom Jobim and Carlos Lyra, called Maria Moita. Maria Moita was composed in 1964, while Smoke in the Water was composed in 1972. Listen to Maria Moita and compare both songs: Tom Jobim and Carlos Lyra's song is wonderful and smoke in the water is a trash.
Wow! Did i find it useful? Mr. Lynn i literally just watched short about interview with Ritchie and i was wonder is it true. I'm appreciate it a lot
Glad it was helpful!
Lord Varys, is that you?
🤣🤣🤣
5:05 Ritchie owes no royalties to Ludwig for the 5th. Ritchie was just boasting about how much money he made with Smoke On The Water. Gotta love that British (or Ritchie's) humor. lol
Deep Purple and Beethoven...genius ever
Brazilians are really mad about the lack of reconizing on the great Carlos Lyra. By the occam´s razor theory, the brazilian composer is the inspiration, and all the mind twist we have to make just to kinda understand what Blackmore said, that just don´t make sense.
wow! thanks for the explanations! i know this statement by Blackmore and i wondered how the fifth would sound backwards. i'm not a musician so there was no way for me to render it. i have finally got the answer.
check CARLOS LYRA - Maria Moita
It is more simply 4/12 available notes in right order. That is better explanation than trying to find connection with reversed 5th 😄
Beethoven is watching...
I did not know Lord Varys plays the guitar so well!
I know Americans are in your face too much but man parliament rally take their time getting to the true point. Maybe I’m just info needy haha.
Thanks for the info though means a lot !
That's a lie is a copy of maria moita from Carlos Lyra
It might be helpful if you listen to Astrud Gilberto "Little Maria"… Of course,, it could be that Ritchie honestly forgot where he heard the riff - or he could just deliberately invent the derivation from the "Beethoven 5" to avoid copyright issues…
There is a vid where Ritchie Blackmore says as much.
The RIF is nothing more than the song by composer Carlos Lira "Maria Moita"
Backwards it sounds like the opening riff to "Iron Man" By Black Sabbath. Ironically the guitarist Tony Iommi looks just like Richy Blackmore of Deep Purple. Or maybe it's the same person? LOL After all back then there was a lot of Inter band swapping going on. LOL
very informative, thank you 🙏🏻
Negative.
Carlos Lyra made it. "Maria Moita"
Copied Carlos Lyria...waaaay before smoke on the water...
actually you are not taking the right note reversely:if you isolate the four notes of Beethoven without the repetitions you get 4 notes, and if you reverse the last three you have the intro riff, and the fourth note comes later after a small fill of one note, but it remains amazing that another guy had found this pathway too - so it remains confusing - Ritchie really took a lot of ideas from other musicians
thanks for the information
Ritchie van Beethoven❤
No. Carlos Lyra wrote the famous Smoke on the Water riff.
Might have some connection with the intro to Maria Moita by the composer Carlos Lyra. Not to say it's plagiarism by any means.
It seems over thought to me, I guess that is how ritchie blackmore writes. If you change what notes you are playing, and the rhythm it seems completely un related to me, but I guess that Is how some people think about music. I still don't see a connection between the two songs. Must be a matter of perception.
He said it was based on a variation of an inversion- inverting Beethoven creates the necessary notes, and varying the rhythm and what order the notes are played created the riff. It was (and still is) a common way for writers to come up with stuff and change stuff that has been previously written to come up with new ideas
@@zolarczakl6815 Listen to Carlos Lyra - Maria Moita
The second part sounds like the bridge to me.
If Beethoven had an electric guitar and a Marshall amp he would have been heavy metal.
I was amazed with the track jn the sorcerers apprentice , it felt modern 😎👍
How do you keep the groupies off?
I watched Richie Blackmore Play ot Live-> Drop D and Barred to 5th
he technically did write smoke on the water though
Beet Purple
Play that backwards on a piano and see what you get ❤❤❤ will it work????
It's Richie Blackmore wrote
Listen to the song 'Istambul not Constantinople'. The resemblance is clear! But they don't want to admit!
Probably a guy who didn't like rock created one of the best-known rock riffs: Tom Jobim.
The guitar solo is, in fact, the song ' Istambul not Constantinople' copy paste!
THAT IS A BADASS RIFF 🤟😎🤘
Now play that backwards please
Great video
Glad you enjoyed it
Seems like a stretch and trying to find something that is not there. Ultimately if you turn and shuffle things around you can compare any 2 songs, he just stole it
2:36 those are not triplets.... 3 8th notes are not the same than triplets 😒
Cool, thanks.
Plagiaram Carlos Lyra! Essa é a verdade
Helll of a stretch!
If your borrowing i suppose borrow from the best 🍻
I heard Iron Man.
1972 not 1973
Interesting
It's literally Google Translate voice
Nope the braziliens of bossa nova wrote it in the 60s.. Nothing to do with beethoven they simple dtole it from bossa nova lol
Wow
3:05 Definitely not.
But it surely sounds like this:
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Wellsaid sir
Typical Blackmore's pretentiousness. That's not even close
Demagoguery
If Ritchie blackmore said it It's true
Bom bom bom bom 🔮🥸
NO, NOT USEFUL! BLACKMORE is a cheater! They owe loads of money to Carlos Lyra and his song Maria Moita 1964
x2 and still too slow
you talk too much
you listen to little
@@mike.overly but at least not so close to the hole as you
More guitar, less talk