INDUCTION COOKERS & Camping || BETTER than cooking on GAS or CAMP FIRE? | + Fire To Fork weighs in

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  • @DENMONKEY
    @DENMONKEY 2 місяці тому +4

    Agree with it all but Harry's last statement on cost. My change to induction/ lithium originally cost me about $1000. DIY' lithium pack 280ah, bms and kings 1500w inverter. Granted I already had the dcdc and solar side set up but point me to a 4wder that doesn't have that anyway. Plus you get the benefit of the extra capacity for other items as part of the deal.

  • @AmandaandAustinC
    @AmandaandAustinC 4 місяці тому +4

    Gas is king. So reliable and efficient. Induction seems to be a solution to a problem that does not exist, just a fancy new gadget to justify a fancy new (expensive) battery/charger/solar system.

  • @davidwood2654
    @davidwood2654 4 місяці тому +9

    Gas is king. Had my gas cooker for 15 years, left out in the rain, turned upside down.... sounds like the only pro with induction is the wind factor..

  • @raykent6008
    @raykent6008 24 дні тому

    we use the nuwave brand it works great , it works in 5 degree increment and has 3 wattage settings, it does cost a bit more

  • @martytee4042
    @martytee4042 4 місяці тому +2

    After watching numbers of your vids , we purchased one after getting our new van. It comes on a padded bag. I must say it's awesome, only issue can be too quick boiling things, so we are now learning what settings are the go. Thanks for the info you give in your vids.

  • @uhaggar
    @uhaggar 4 місяці тому +2

    Thanks Cam great video, we actually do a lot of induction cooking in our van as we prefer to cook outside and we can just use the kmart one on a fold down table, we don't usually camp more then about 3 nights in one place so generally battery power isn't an issue, we also use gas usually with a BabyQ. Also looking at setting up the car for induction cooking 👌

  • @jamesfox653
    @jamesfox653 4 місяці тому +3

    I purchased a padded laptop bag from an op shop for about $10 and I keep my induction cooker in that. It has protected my cooker from damage for over 4 years now. And it’s a perfect fit.

    • @Alwaysbmoving
      @Alwaysbmoving 4 місяці тому

      Creative idea. Thanks for sharing!

  • @The1southampton
    @The1southampton 4 місяці тому +1

    Always good to have options when out and about.

    • @richardwalsh5570
      @richardwalsh5570 4 місяці тому

      Yep, induction for me with a cheap canister stove for back up.

  • @lappingozoffgrid
    @lappingozoffgrid 4 місяці тому

    You have come long way. I still remember having 2k sub while starting travelling when Covid hit. Now 120k sub who’s laughing now

  • @allanthiel
    @allanthiel 3 місяці тому

    Thanks. Confirmed what I also feel, fire is best, however in the West, not always an option. Gas is the best alternative either in the van or solo.
    Thanks.

  • @MrMattjohn87
    @MrMattjohn87 Місяць тому

    Gas for camping, inductuon for home. I love induction and the cooking experience on it

  • @michaelhermans4753
    @michaelhermans4753 4 місяці тому

    Hi Cam
    I’ve been trying the air fryer to make chips & heat food at camp and I found it fantastic, I know you also use one , would be interesting to do a segment on that

  • @AHPOutdoors
    @AHPOutdoors 4 місяці тому +10

    Butane stoves are awesome. Cans last a long time and burn hot and temperature control is awesome. The only problem is they dont work in winter when it's cold.
    I use gas. Easy, cheap, great temperature control, and doesn't require a $3000 12v system.
    Stick with gas. No point reinventing the wheel.
    If I have time I also like to cook on the fire.
    Induction makes no sense to me at all while camping.

    • @grunkalunka3449
      @grunkalunka3449 4 місяці тому +1

      All excellent points.

    • @ianweal3081
      @ianweal3081 4 місяці тому

      Excellent points, however;
      I've used gas ever since I was a young fella, initially propane but it's bulky, so switched to butane as compact and light.
      Cool temps were always an issue, breeze could be partially controlled by wind deflector BUT what pushed me over the edge into induction was a week's stay on east coast of K'gari, breeze wind was continuous, evenings and mornings cool enough to freeze canisters, it was just a pain in the arse.
      Purchased a induction cooktop, no issues quick cookups in any conditions, unplug, let it cool, wipe clean and place back in draw.
      Having said that I still carry butane for long slow cookups and to utilise our aluminium pressure cooker to achieve lovely tender meats.
      Expense doesn't have to be outrageous either.
      Our initial system was:
      Existing AGM batteries.
      They worked fine, used them for our coffee M/C, sandwich press, toaster but induction cooktop pounded them, they were too slow to recover for continuous use throughout the day into the night for lighting.
      Our system now contains:
      3 x Itech lithium drop in replacements, far quicker to recharge @ $1300 on sale.
      Our initial electrical:
      King's 1500w inverter, $199.
      Autobarn jumper leads $10.
      Add to that our Germanica induction cooktop $50 from Coles.
      So expense that works fine
      1300
      199
      10
      50
      $1559
      Today the Germanica units used at home and 2 X ALDI $50 units occupy the same space, more compact.
      They are not as efficient as the Germanica but utilise one on inverter only, and two when in van parks off of shore power.
      Still Cary the trusty butane unit.

    • @grunkalunka3449
      @grunkalunka3449 4 місяці тому

      @@ianweal3081 $1500 expense to run 1 stove top?? No thanks. I understand theres a big push at the moment to go this way, but when a 2 burner stove and 2kg gas bottle can do the same (better) job for a fraction of the price. I'll be sticking with that for now.

    • @ianweal3081
      @ianweal3081 4 місяці тому

      Yes, that's okay but you have the bulk of it to transport, time to set up, time to pack away, yes been there done that. In comparison I pull out a 350 X 280 X 45 mm stove, plug in, cook eat, wipe down and re-stow in draw.
      Considering I'd already developed my electrical system to run coffee M/C, lighting etc the expenditure had already occured, but to run the induction cook top I preferred to update to lithium for restoration of power, could have possibly made do on AGM but I doubt it.
      My point was, you don't need to spend thousands as consistently pushed on UA-cam channels.
      Who'd thought a Kings 1500w inverter would perform so well, I've attempted to update to supposedly better 2000w inverter and it struggles to run coffee M/C.
      Hence Kings 1500 reinstall.

    • @HLsab
      @HLsab 4 місяці тому

      I personally think the induction crap is just a scam , when I first went camping as a kid we used the fire and I still use the fire today (I’m 62). To me coffee machines , induction cookers , air fryers , etc are robbing you of the camping experience ( same with starlink). It’s great for UA-camrs starved for content to do shows about and electrical manufacturers to sell you a $6000 dollar lithium set up . I noticed Ian states the time it takes to use the induction is minimal , what’s the big rush for Ian ? I never rush while I’m camping ……isn’t that why you camp ? No stress no deadlines , relax……..P.S. I live in Victoria where you can cook over a fire year round (except total fire bans) .

  • @stevesmith3556
    @stevesmith3556 4 місяці тому +1

    I would love to run one of the induction cookers for wind and altitude. I just don't have the money for the power needed. I live around the same altitude as the highest point in AUS. Going camping, usually about 10 to 11k ft. The best solution I've found is an old coleman white liquid gas stove that you can pump to whatever preasure is needed. It burns like a hot as hell jet engin and, It's never let me down.
    Cheers, Cam!🎉

    • @ausamg2760
      @ausamg2760 4 місяці тому

      I run an induction cooker using a 120amp/hr lithium battery 3000 watt inverter and a 40amp DCDC charger.
      The whole setup including an induction cooker for 850 AUD.
      All Kings brand and has been cooking for Me for years.
      You don’t need a big system or expensive system.
      I use this running a fridge, lights toaster kettle and induction cooker. In summer We take a pedestal fan .

  • @WesternAustraliaNowAndThen
    @WesternAustraliaNowAndThen 4 місяці тому +4

    Oddly we have never had s problem getting a gas cooker going even in very cold weather. We generally use big gas cylinders though so maybe that makes a difference.

    • @ianweal3081
      @ianweal3081 4 місяці тому +1

      It's butane that has the issue, not propane. Larger bottle usually indicates you're using propane.
      Butane gas units simply cease to work, remove canister, it's cold, replace with another canister, within 3 minutes you'll have zero flame heat again.
      Propane just continues to burn, usually a hotter flame also.
      Butane benefit is primarily they are compact & light and ideal above 10°C, useless in wind though.

  • @VaughanMunro-js4nr
    @VaughanMunro-js4nr 4 місяці тому +1

    As Harry said, you need to spend $5k plus on your battery electric set up to run induction cooking. Then, chase the sun or use a generator to keep the batteries full.

  • @aussie_camp_dad8779
    @aussie_camp_dad8779 4 місяці тому

    Good Video Cam
    I have to say I’m with Harry on the jetboil basecamp stove they are great for cooking out of the car and when I’m off on a tinny mission I can throw it in the boat which I’m sure you have a few coming up.

  • @wallaceweir8227
    @wallaceweir8227 4 місяці тому

    I have the same K mart induction cooker and I also get the same error when I'm using my cast iron pan on it. However I started using a regular pan specifically when I'm using induction and I haven't had a problem since...
    Definitely agree with the power statement we like to move around a lot so it hasn't been an issue but any more than a few days id be in trouble. Still I love not carrying any gas !

  • @DG_Raceway
    @DG_Raceway 4 місяці тому

    Good to see you honestly review a product. True, you need to spend a few grand to get a battery system to power induction, but sometimes camping is best kept simple 😉
    For most, a cheap set up means a cheap power base, so gas or fire is best. It must be really windy in WA, cos in the east, we've never really had an issue with wind and gas blowing out 🤷🏻‍♂️

  • @darrenmoore2
    @darrenmoore2 4 місяці тому

    hey Cam, i normally use gas and want to go induction for camping, i think i might try this now. also, we converted our house from gas to induction for cooking also got rid of the gas hot water, saved so much money and honestly induction (good induction) i think is better.

  • @ladysusanjane2682
    @ladysusanjane2682 4 місяці тому

    I don’t like cooking inside the van unless the weather is inclement. I like to use our induction cooktop (Germania??) outside of the van because it doesn’t matter if it is windy. Otherwise our little gas cooker is great too of it isn’t windy. Fire is amazing but I haven’t ever really cooked on it.

  • @gavingamston1693
    @gavingamston1693 4 місяці тому

    Hi Cam, some examples of the numbers of amps used for various cooking would be handy. Also the size of inverter required to run your unit.

  • @markpalmer5787
    @markpalmer5787 4 місяці тому

    Gday Cam,
    3 days GCR, then across Finke into Mt Dare, then 2 days Madigan Line. Induction gave up the ghost. How old was it???
    But I've read a lot of the comments about powering the car for induction, including Harry 😂.
    What everyone is forgetting is. What else can you run. I have a Microwave, Airfryer, Sandwich Toaster, Coffee Machine. Small price, when you can camp 5 star offgrid...
    Cheers, Mark...

    • @WildTouring
      @WildTouring  4 місяці тому +1

      Just checked my invoices, that induction cooker is 2 years old next month. Second one to fail around that age. If it was mine still Mark I’d get ThunderFab to make another table without the cutout. And run whatever cheap portable unit so that when they fail it’s not such a pain in the ass!
      Trip sounds amazing mate, I’m stoked that cars still being used for what it was built for!

  • @ACTMCC3150
    @ACTMCC3150 4 місяці тому +1

    Something I learned from working in engineering is to plan for redundancy by having backup for or duplicate anything you rely on. There are more than one way to cook and generate power while camping: fire (to fork?), gas burners or bbq, 240v hotplate, 240v induction hotplate, 240v air fryer, 240v electric frypan/rice cooker/pressure cooker. There are different energy supplies: gas, batteries, 240v/12v/solar charging, solar or petrol generator, firewood. I diversify my energy source and power generation so I switch to suit conditions. I have a caravan with 2 x 120ah old school AGM batteries for 12v power lighting, water pump and water heater, gas for internal and bbq cooking and off grid 3 way fridge, portable solar panels, Bluetti AC200p 2kva solar generator and 3.5 kva petrol generator for off grid 240v power. I've camped for months off grid and if you have solar, petrol, firewood and chainsaw, solar, batteries and generator nothing's a problem. Be prepared and be flexible. Don't adhere to one way of doing things. Electric Jesus is a fantasy. Cover all bases. Haven't needed an induction cooktop yet but I think it's useful if you have enough 240v power.

    • @WildTouring
      @WildTouring  4 місяці тому

      Absolutely, spot on! That’s why I personally think the idea of these all electric caravans you see coming out is crazy!

    • @ACTMCC3150
      @ACTMCC3150 4 місяці тому

      @@WildTouring Yes. There's a case for and a need for diversified energy sources and cooking methods. Two years ago I went to Carnarvon Gorge Qld for a week after wet weather and had to use a combination of solar panels, an Arkpac with 120ah AGM battery, Bluetti AC200P solar generator, 3.5kva petrol genie and fire cooking. Then I went to SA for 2 months and only need to run the genie for 1 day to recharge the caravan batteries and the Bluetti. So needs change depending on the weather, sunshine, cold and cooking. Be prepared. Prepare for everything, camp comfortably.

    • @wobblysauce
      @wobblysauce 17 годин тому

      As for a home, per BTU's, Induction is more efficient than the older heating elements hands down, and you cook what you need and not wasting a lot of the heat to increasing the air temp with Gas, that and better air quality.
      But outside cooking, go at it cook with fire as much as you want. If you want to cook with Gas at home just use the BBQ and keep the heat outside.

  • @Ben-bj3ev
    @Ben-bj3ev 4 місяці тому

    Good advice.

  • @PeterEmery
    @PeterEmery 4 місяці тому

    I have the same Anko one and find it restrictive around 1600 W. Above that power level it almost always throws an error and stops working. My setting however, is purely domestic suburban. That cooker was bought to replace a better one that was destroyed by my brother-in-law who overfilled the kettle and when it boiled over, the electrics were drenched. I'm not sure why I still have the thing, two weeks after the drenching of the old unit my ceramic cooktop was replaced by a 4-element induction hob. I was using a single induction device because 2 of the 4 elements in the ceramic cooktop had failed.
    The previous single induction cooker (the drowned one) was able to work at its full power setting of 2000 W without the overheat error. It cost more than the $52 of the Anko unit.

  • @seanchristie7150
    @seanchristie7150 4 місяці тому

    Fantastic information, I am with you Cam, prefer Gas n fire cooking, while I can see the benefits of the Induction the additional cost is prohibitive.

  • @johnmerton3630
    @johnmerton3630 2 місяці тому

    I live off grid and gas works out at .40 cents per day for cooking and hot water. everything else is 240 volts

  • @gobargau9011
    @gobargau9011 Місяць тому

    We’ve used induction for years now mate and the biggest tip I can give is… for gods sake DONT buy a $50 induction cooker and think that is a good example of how good they are. Fine temp control is the hallmark function of them.

  • @TheJanope13
    @TheJanope13 4 місяці тому

    Another thing that pisses me off with induction is how small the “burner” is. With a cast iron skillet the heat does not spread properly and only the middle heats up. Terrible. But yeah agree it works great for quick meals or cooking mediums with liquid like boiling pasta, stewing or deep frying. I have a gas range at home but use induction at home for those things and it works a treat.
    My setup 200ah lithium and 50A dcdc charger is more than capable for running it in touring style trips. But
    I’ve gone back to butane canisters as 2kg gas bottles are annoying to store in a wagon, really hard to find anyone that refills. It’s also almost the same price to refill as a 9kg bottle fil. Then if you’ve got a 1/4 left but need a bit for a trip they’ll still charge the full 2kg price.
    Swap and goes don’t even carry that style of gas bottle either.
    I’ve had to jerry rig up a hose to refill my own cylinders from the 9kg bottles though as you can’t beat lpg in the cold, especially camping up in the NSW/vic alpine regions

  • @purebloodnordicroamer7955
    @purebloodnordicroamer7955 4 місяці тому

    Jetboil gas cylinder l put it in my sleeping bag in the winter to keep it warm. When l getup in the morning, works perfectly.

  • @JenBolst
    @JenBolst 4 місяці тому

    👍 gas all the way but I am lookong forward to using my oz brai

  • @rgill1869
    @rgill1869 4 місяці тому +1

    I will stick to gas, not much chop if your induction stove dies on a trip to Fraser Island.

  • @ajmcqu
    @ajmcqu 4 місяці тому

    Ive found with my anko i change it from temp control to wattage control the error code stopped occuring. So that might be helpful.

  • @Phil_McAvity
    @Phil_McAvity 4 місяці тому +3

    Cam-bomb is that a Kings fridge I see before my eyes? What’s the story?

    • @WildTouring
      @WildTouring  4 місяці тому +2

      Yeah! 😆 I wanted a freezer for the longer trips I do and couldn’t justify the price of other brands for something I realistically only need a couple of times a year. This was $200! 😱

    • @Phil_McAvity
      @Phil_McAvity 4 місяці тому

      @@WildTouring yeah i did the same. Bought a 45ltr Oztrail 4 years ago to put in the back to use as a freezer on big trips. Still going strong. Use it at home now as a overflow freezer 👍

    • @merv190
      @merv190 4 місяці тому

      Yep I’ve got a Kings for a freezer , hasn’t missed a beat so far.

    • @longway1
      @longway1 Місяць тому

      ​@@WildTouring l have 3 kings fridges 1 in my camper which is 6 years old never missed a beat both as freezer or fridge a drawer which we used as a freezer on a cape york trip and was great and for the last 2 years an up right which is fantastic. Not sure why kings fridges are looked down on with the money we saved we could buy a better lithium set up which runs everything at over 13 volt which is far more efficient than agm's at 12.7 volts.

    • @WildTouring
      @WildTouring  Місяць тому

      @@longway1they’re great bang for buck mate! They are built to a budget though, and the failure rate is high. The fridge in this video lasted 4 months/ 2 trips and the lids snapped. No longer seals and I’ve got to return it.

  • @mothergoose3064
    @mothergoose3064 4 місяці тому

    Cam don’t judge induction temperature control ability based on portable units. A high quality home induction system has massively better temperature control than gas. That’s not an opinion, it’s a fact. Ive had both at home and induction is miles ahead.

    • @WildTouring
      @WildTouring  4 місяці тому

      I did wonder/hope that was the case!

  • @scouseaussie1638
    @scouseaussie1638 4 місяці тому +1

    Induction cooker where’s the fun in that?

  • @Tom-lf8hx
    @Tom-lf8hx 4 місяці тому +1

    Thats what i was thinking now that i have a quality lithium battery set up, day trip to the beach id use induction or an air fryer for a quick knock up lunch, but gas if i was setup at camp and it wasnt blowing its tits off ahahaha

  • @richardwalsh5570
    @richardwalsh5570 4 місяці тому +1

    Totally disagree on gas in your house. Banned in Eastern States now for new builds. Decent induction is so good. Ours is fabulous, great temperature control and quick.

    • @pantoqwerty
      @pantoqwerty 4 місяці тому +1

      Banned in eastern states? Pretty sure QLD still allow it as I cannot find anything about a ban other than the relevant minister saying they wouldn’t do it.

    • @trackwidener9860
      @trackwidener9860 4 місяці тому +1

      Gas indoors is a bad idea esp. with kids around . Higher asthma rates in kids growing up with gas .

  • @merv190
    @merv190 4 місяці тому

    Gas or occasionally fire if the time is right, but gas all the way. Harry basically called you dumb. ( just joking) 😀

  • @louise5906
    @louise5906 4 місяці тому

    So l have a 100W lithium battery and 300W inverter is that enough to get the Kmart induction stove going?

    • @jamieh4x4
      @jamieh4x4 4 місяці тому

      No. You need a 1500W minimum inverter. And then you still can't use the cooker on its most powerful settings (1600,1800,2000w) and if you have a 100ah battery, it might not have a high enough continuous amp output rating for a 1500w inverter. Would recommend 200ah lithium battery minimum with at least 150 amp continuous output. I do most my cooking on 1000w and 1200w induction settings too btw.

    • @louise5906
      @louise5906 4 місяці тому

      @@jamieh4x4 Oooh 👍 thankyou Jamie 🌸

  • @chrishepple3401
    @chrishepple3401 4 місяці тому +1

    Like Kings shit maybe give a good brand induction cooker a go when ya sick of the kmart Anko jobbies giving you grief haha

    • @WildTouring
      @WildTouring  4 місяці тому +1

      I’ve previously had 2 expensive brand induction cookers and they both failed so I gave up and got the anko! 😐 surprisingly it’s held up the longest!

  • @deniseday4613
    @deniseday4613 4 місяці тому

    Unfortunately, if you have an ICD or pacemaker, you should steer clear of Induction due to magnetic fields, (that eliminates me from the conversation)

    • @WildTouring
      @WildTouring  4 місяці тому

      That’s good info, I wasn’t aware of that!

  • @gregcooke3260
    @gregcooke3260 4 місяці тому +1

    "Expirement"???? Gotta love a typo.

  • @jockwar
    @jockwar 4 місяці тому

    the E5 code is a problem I thought it was happening because the pan size was to big so tried one the correct size & it still happened so I took it back & got my money I have now bought a better one & hope it doesn't give the same code but haven't used it yet but it sounds like it will