Security Stories 5 - Gay Clubs
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- Опубліковано 12 чер 2024
- For many years I worked security in the UK and Europe. I did everything from Clubs, survelliance right through to CP. The stories are all true and told as I remember them. This one is about the Brighton Gay scene, especially the clubs.. You may be as surprised as I was to learn there is a dark side..
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I am a gay man. When I heard you say the "idea that all the gay people are super nice and super kind" I literally laughed out loud. There are just as many creeps at the gay bar as at the staight bar.
You should tell this to your marketing team because they are getting on everyones nerves.
Dahmer comes to mind.
Also, a lot of gay bars are cliquey and not very friendly to others.
@@thatgearguy It's that time of year again and John Lewis/Waitrose are plastering their windows with gay propaganda .
[This once great English institutian was founded over 100 years ago]
Please repent. You chose a deviant & deeply disordered lifestyle.
My ex-girlfriend had a best friend who worked at a gay club. At the time, he was a 19 year old guy, still very boyish looking, who thought that getting a job at a big city gay club was the obvious thing to do after his recent coming out and the best way to explore his sexuality. One time I asked him what it was like, and he told me that his manager (mid 30's/early 40's) had insisted on "testing him out" (sex) prior to hiring him in order to gauge whether the customers would like him. He also told me that he went home with a different bloke (of all ages) just about every night that he worked there. Up to that point I had always (naively) projected my straight perspective onto the gay community, assuming that they were also just looking for a monogamous relationship albeit with another male (and of course that happens), but that's when I realised that I had just gotten a glimpse into a different world entirely - one that I didn't know existed - and finally understood why STD's are so common within the gay scene.
As a gay man, I know your stories are 100% true. All the gay people I know, male and female, avoid the gay scene of any given town. They won't even go to Pride events. We're also sick of the 'rainbow marketing', the racism, the psychotic debauchery, and the lack of responsibility.
Thanks for watching. I appreciate it!
I really dislike gay pride especially the ones that are fetish oriented. Like I don't want my societal representation to be people walking through the town square with dildos strapped to them. Like have a fetish parade or something but I don't see how been seen as weirdos is helping the fight or equal rights, equal access to adoption and parenthood.
What happens between consenting adults in a bedroom is no one's business and people should be free to live how they feel like but putting it on display doesn't help us I feel.
I totally rejected identifying as "gay" or "LGBTQ+" anything! I am 60 years old and never felt any of that represented who I am or what I support. Never needed "LGBTQ+" language to say I am attracted to men and that I never identified as the sex I was listed at birth. I see that as a very different thing then anything the "LGBTQ" represents. I grew up with the word Transsexual. Never saw it as a self-identity. Just a way to say this person doesn't identify as the sex they were listed at birth. "Transgender is all based in using a sex I never identified as tp invalidate that legal change of sex and to drag me into the "LGBTQ" something I have never identified with. I look at the LGBTQ as a glorified sex ring and dragnet. Let people identify how they want! If it is a danger to them or someone else only then step in.
I appreciate your honesty.💯
💯 with what you said! I may go to the odd thing but I keep away from getting really heavily involved in the scene, and I agree with the rainbow stuff it's getting to the point of insanity!
This is why I love UA-cam, it allows me to peer into worlds I wouldn't have known even existed before. Thanks.
It gives me a window to places I will never go. I avoid all aspects of modern american society, its vile and disgusting in the extreme. 💀
Amen! I believe the greatest variety of news and outlooks is provided through the town hall and the town square of YOU TUBE. respectfully submitted for your consideration Gregg Oreo Long Beach CA Etats Unis
Well said.
Same here. I like to be informed especially with topics that no way would I ever go to find out for myself.
Something that needs to be pointed out since your eyes and ears are now open, is that everything he described was a thing of the past those things have died and times have certainly changed. Although they were fabulous fun times!
I remember one time myself and my sister were having a discussion about sexual harassment. She assumed as the eternal victim of being a female that she had been abused more than anyone until I told her stories of me being harrased and abused by gays (no rape) as a straight guy. You know what she did? She fucking laughed like it was nothing.
Yup. I've had the same experience. I'm straight, and have been sexually assaulted / harassed by women too. It's not about gender or sexuality. It's about lust and power. Sex always involves some sort of power exchange - even if your having sex with yourself, and the exchange is a fantasy. The key to ethical sex is consent. It sounds like the beatings described here were consensual in a very dark, pathological way - probably the result of shame and repression.
That's terrible that you were you were sexually harassed and abused by other men. It's not a laughing matter. It's never a contest about abuse though.
Women are solipsistic by nature. They genuinely have zero ability to empathize with men in any way. I mean zero. Either you are Superman in their eyes or you don't exist. And if you are related to them, anything that makes you weak in their eyes makes them resent you.
Learning about women and their psychology alone can make one feel genocidal towards the entire human race when you understand that women are programmed by nature to breed with self-centered psychopaths who have no ability to work with a group and be true members of a tribe because only their needs matter, any man who isn't a stone cold psychopath might as well not even exist in a woman's eyes. They see genuine kindness as weakness and it turns them off and activates feelings of disgust. It's the most bizarre thing how they can say with a straight face the absolute dumbest emotional verbal diarrhea and then hate men when they actually listen to their emotional schizophrenia.
Then there is the fact that everything that is truly beautiful in this world from architecture and art to philosophy, and all inbetween, was created by men. It's men who bring some kind of light, beauty, and wonder into this world. Even in war with death and carnage, men can do things with such courage and honor in ways that boggle the mind. Whether it's accepting death, showing mercy, or risking one's life for others, or two enemies showing mutual respect for one and other before or after they fight, it's always men who do incredible things worthy of being recorded in the history books. Men, especially great men, can do things that are poetic with the pains they endure and struggles they overcome.
When was the last woman you've ever heard of that did something that can bring a tear to a man's eye because it was so unbelievably incredible, honorable, courageous, and inspiring? I can't think of a single one. All the "famous" women who "accomplished" things according to mainstream society are nothing but activists whining and bitching their way to notoriety. They didn't create anything, they never conquered the world in anything. They just nagged men to get their way in everything and after enough years of nagging and bitching, men lowered the standards and still women as a collective fail at everything. Literally everything.
Women seem hellbent on killing anything that is good and pure by their very nature. They are incapable of creativity, incapable of true empathy. They just hate everything. They are nothing more than biological robots designed to follow the herd and reproduce. That's it....
That's a typical woman, if a woman gets sexually harassed they're up in arms crying rape. If it's a boy or a man they think it's funny! 👎🏻♀️
@saintejeannedarc9460 its absolutely not, which is why it's extremely pointless, hurtful, and just straight up evil when women constantly argue with and belittle men's expieriences, kind of like you're doing right now. You just had to find some way to argue with him, although he obviously NEVER made it about a contest. You are the problem.
There is a huge element of the gay community that exists out of Pride festivals and gay clubs. As a gay man I can tell you everything this man is saying is true. I was exposed to that scene at a very young age but walked away from it a very long time ago. I live a very normal, happy, healthy and drug-free life with an amazing partner.
Thanks for your comment.. Very happy to hear you are living your best life!
Hi, just wanted to say, my brother was a Go Go dancer at a very famous GAY night club in London in the late 80s. He was 15 years old, the management knew as he would turn up in his school uniform! He'd change into hot pants etc dance and then sneak home in the early dawn. I know now that he was SA but older employees and got into a very toxic, Narcissistic relationship with a much older guy who beat him. Eventually he did escape that scene and was with his wonderful Austrian husband for 20 years before loosing Seph to cancer. Happy but sad ending too. R.I.P Seph ❤
Bless you
Same here. Went to a Pride parade ONCE....15 Odd years ago. Not my taste at all. Haven't been in a gay club in the better part of a decade.
I am a bisexual woman who used to travel with my gay best friend. He was raped two times, once in Paris and once in Rio. He never had penetrative sex normally but this happened when he was raped by men he met in the clubs. He went on to develop AIDS and died in the mid- 90s. There definitely can be a very violent and sinister element in gay clubs.
Thanks for your honest and nonjudgmental view of the club scene.
Im sorry you lost your friend to that horrid disease.
I was aghast to hear about those who deliberately infect themselves and make the taxpayer foot the bill for their jollies. 😡
Meanwhile the NHS dithers about the expense of some innocent patients.
I think that should be a criminal offence, or at least it should not be free.
😂
@@jessiehuynh7495You need serious help.
@@jessiehuynh7495 we get it,your parents didn't love you
Great story... but nobody cares.
As a gay man I am glad to say that despite our incessant demands for tolerance and acceptance we aren’t quick to dish it out. It’s hypocritical. Many of us are some of the cruelest most vile human beings I’ve ever met. People I tried being friends with wanted nothing to do with me once they figured out I wasn’t going to sleep with them. Now that many of these people are older they’ve tried to be friends and I want nothing to do with them. My partner and I keep to ourselves and are better for it.
Thanks for the honesty.
Something tells me that the owner was the dealer in that club 😂
A gay friend in Brighton told me that when applying to go on the Brighton Council housing list I should tick the box marked Gay as I would be awarded more points than if I ticked the Straight box. Ideally, he said, spray some homophobic graffiti across my front door (I was in a privately rented flat) and say I was being harassed and frightened. Guaranteed a council place pronto apparently. When it came to it my pen hovered over the Gay box but I couldn't do it. And more's the point, I shouldn't bloody have to.
To make things worse I know of couples coming over from Spain, renting a flat, playing the gay card and getting full housing benefit each. They learn how to play the system before they even leave Spain!
Work coligue once told me he got massive discount on his car insurance cause he told them he was gay. It was crazy.
@@AdamYare-cw6loif I was that sales representative I would tell the gay person, “good for you” , better to be happy than sad. Then charge $$$ the shit out of him😏
So fight club was a gay film then lol .
Possibly!
The author of the novel is a gay man.
Joe Rogan had him in a podcast.
You didn’t know? Lol
I didn't know lol
It's gay coded.
I've spent many years at the door working security also. Everything you said is true, I've seen it all. The thing I would add is that these are party people, all gays are not party people. Straight party people are also wild as hell.
San Francisco here. It seems a prerequisite of owning a bar is a deep pathology. It's so rare you find a genuinely nice owner.
Just a terrible industry.
It’s hedonism run amuck plain and simple. Most “gays” have been given over to their appetites. There is salvation in Jesus, who died for our sins, was buried and rose again. If you turn to him in Faith, you shall be saved. 1 Corinthians 15. v. 1-4.
@@patcola7335 🐂💩
@@aubreyleonae4108 Whatever Aubrey. It's your soul.
Truer words have never been spoken.
My mom was a Dallas cop in the 80s. She said some of the most violent calls they responded to were domestic calls involving a gay couple fighting. Because in the end, youve got two men ripping eachother apart but with the emotion of relationships fueling it.
Very interesting, although I've read that within the LGBTalphabet world the Lesbians have the highest domestic violence percentage.
They’re so nasty
You're a articulate and great story teller.
Shame you’re not
@@jonnydoeson5562 ?
And cute!
Gay guy from the US here. Your description of your experiences are spot on. Presented in a non judgmental manner. So many angry, bitter and self destructive people taking out their misery on others.
I think this is why me and my partner of 25 years don't do the gay scene anymore. Don't need that drama.
Great content.
Thanks and really appreciate the comment. Have a great day!
I can 100% vouch for your experiences. As a gay man, I haven't gone to a gay club for almost 10yrs. Looking back, I can barely remember one gay club I went to where I wasn't sexually harassed (fully meeting legal criteria) multiple times a night. Being 10 years older now (and less of a twink), I doubt I'd experience it as much, but god knows why I'd want to return to those places! The rare times my partner and I go out clubbing (usually because we're coaxed by friends) it's a straight club - and we certainly feel more comfortable in those venues.
Went to lots of gay clubs was never harassed, never saw any harassment…
@@darrenhoskins8382 Just because you never see it yourself, doesn’t mean it’s not happening
@@darrenhoskins8382 Well, goodie for you. How dismissive you are to those who clearly have experienced just that. Ironically, perpetrators do and say the same thing...
@@yelsung didn’t say it wasn’t happening
@@barbarakauppi9915 I don’t see how saying my experience is different to yours is being dismissive of your experience. Have I said you lied or implied it in anyway?
Very similar to my experience of working in clubs in london. I was once a supervisor in a popular central london nightclub that would host a wide range of events. One of these was a gay night, and after many instances of assault on the staff (mainly the punters assaulting female staff) and instances of sexual assault a large number of staff used to refuse to work the gay nights. The clubs response was either to hide or lie about what events we would be working and accuse the staff of being homophobic for not being willing to stomach these events. In Dalston I found the LGBT nights to have really nice people in attendance who were extremely generous with tips. My issue however arose when I went to use the toilet and saw 2 men involved in a sexual act. I went and told the security who refused to act and remove them (as they would if they are straight) on the basis they were worried the club would fire them on the grounds of being homophobic. In my experience, gay events are somewhat tiered. You have a benign experience which may have a drag queen where the majority of punters are average attractive middle class student aged females who find the lgbt spectacle massively entertaining and attend predominantly to capture tons of footage for their social media. After this you have middle aged gay events which are relatively respectable, albiet there may be a few bad apples who cant handle their alchohol and act out. Lastly there are some quite frankly insidous events where the club allows sex (councils can and do issue permits to allow this, please look it up) and ontop of this there is a lot of nudity and paganesq rituals. I have only worked 2 of these events and although I saw alot during my time in hospitality found these nights to be the most bizarre and unsettling. I believe each to their own, however there is a large culture amongst the punters and the club runners of forcing people they know do not enjoy seeings such acts to see their sexual acts which I suspect is a large part of what turns them on.
When kids are present for these kink spectacles (drag queen grind shows, near-nude pride parades), that's when the backlash starts, and rightly.
Most gays are not like the club gays. Just wanted to reassure you that the club scene is extreme.
What % would you say are dangerous/degenerate like in the stories on this video?
@@raysissum I don’t know all the gays, so I wouldn’t know. I know those clubs can be wild, though. When people lose their inhibitions, anything goes. I don’t go myself. Not my scene. I only know a few who do. They’re decent people and don’t get in trouble. They do party, though.
There is an excellent series on Hulu called Fellow Travellers and they point this out in several scenes in the show.
@@raysissum A good example would be the straight sex scene in any decent sized city. Whenever people push boundaries there are going to be a percentage of malignant, dangerous types. Real predators. So I guess it would depend on the club and what is going on or acceptable in that club. Just like most straight clubs are not going to let Amber & Justin ball on the dancefloor, many gay clubs also do not allow such behaviors so the crowd there will be more chill.
clubs in general bring out a lot of bad people
Gay club? No drugs? 😂😂😂 Gay dudes party harder than any other people I've EVER seen.
They long to escape the reality and often can't accept themselves, so they hide in substance abuse.
@@nathanielovaughn2145 Basically they are all depressed because they know they have unnatural tendencies and are alienated by most people
@@nathanielovaughn2145Just like every other druggie or drunk. Plenty of straight drug addicts.
@@AEVMU most druggiest people in my vicinity are straight. i m gay dont take drugs - have lots of gay friends, but definitely not the way the 30/40 /50 something year old straight people can hoover down at any point of the day .
Very similar experience here. I lived in Palm Springs for years, gay capital of the USA, run by gays from the top down. Learned they are just as good and just as evil as anyone else. Some great, level-headed guys always extending a helping hand, and some of the darkest, most sinister villains. And some very, very strange sexual dynamics going on there, hidden behind the rainbow marketing. Kinks you didn't think were possible. It's a whole parallel world most don't know anything about.
THE CAUSE AND EFFECT OF HAVING TWO SPIRITS !! AND THEY DO , NATIVE AMERICANS SAW THIS DIFFERENTLY AND WOULD ACCEPT THEM AND THE WOMEN LIKED IT AND MADE THEM DO ALL THE HARD WORK AND WOULD LAUGH AND SAY YOUR TURN TONIGHT WE ALL HAVE HEADACHES !! ESP THE CHEYENNE AND THEY TREATED WOMEN LIKE DOGS , SO TIT FOR TAT !! WHAT EVIL MEN DO TO WOMEN BUT OVER 5000 YEARS OF HAVING TO BE AS DEVIOUS AND CONNIVING SO WE COULD SURVIVE MALES THE MOST VICIOUS OF ALL SPEICIES AND NOW IT IS OVER FOREVER! WE ARE DONE WITH THESE XY'S , CANNOT FIX THEM EVER SO THEY CAN GO AWAY AND LEAVE US IN PEACE BUT THEY CANNOT STAND NOW BEING AROUND WOMEN BUT WE CAN SURE STAND BEING AWAY FROM MEN AND IT IS LOOKING LIKE WOMEN'S TOTAL FREEDOM FROM MEN MAY BE ON ITS WAY!! IF NOT , EXPECT A WAR! AND WOMEN WILL WIN AND MEN WILL LEAVE !!
The awful truth.
How fkg ridiculous.
Interesting 🤔
You mean they're human? 😂
You nearly fell for the oldest trick in the book: "hey mate, have a sniff of this" "yeah mate have another sniff and see if you can touch your toes"😂
and you laugh at him? This is a sick and evil world...
@@newyorkfan16 Get a life.
@@newyorkfan16 look! he loved it! takes all kinds, miss.
Lol 🤣🤣
Yup. They were trying to get him riled up for the bathroom meeting.
My cousins friend came out in the 90s and told her that he was gay.
She said it was like the floodgates open and he wouldn't stop telling her about every sexual experience he had. It was pretty horrific when he told her about what happened to him when he went missing for 3 days.
Some guy held him locked up in his basement and treated him as a s** s****! But he refused to go to the police.
Then it seemed like every few weeks he had another story just like it. We figured out after a while that he was actually seeking these situations out!
He'd come back bruised, battered, cut and crying, Looking for sympathy from everyone. Yet sometimes it was the same guys!
Each time he'd act like he was a victim, but he was clearly seeking this out. She finally told him they're still friends, but she doesn't want to hear about his sexual escapades anymore. His response was a lot of rude words and to never talk to her again.
Sounds about right.
@@thatgearguy @AlienRelics The thing is that in the past few decades, the truth about homosexuality has been buried. Psychoanalyst Edmund Bergler wrote in his book 'Homosexuality: Disease or Way of Life' that the root cause of homosexuality is what he coined "psychic masochism" - pleasure in displeasure, which comes from persistent negative experiences in infancy that the infant learns to love, which causes poor development, which eventually leads to homosexual feelings. The deep upside-down "pleasure in displeasure" feeling leads to the kind of self-destructive behaviours described in the video. The media loves to pretend gays are normal but they are deeply disturbed due to poor upbringings. I speak out of experience. Gays need a lot of love to heal, not to be told to go out and indulge their fantasies.
The literal definition of friendship is working for a common goal, be it pleasure, material advantage or personal growth. I stole this from Aristotle.
When she discovered that she was always his friend, but he was never hers...
This is what will ruin our society’s.
As a gay man in Canada, this is an absolute truth. It’s a fallacy that we’re in a rainbow community, they is as much discrimination in it as anywhere else. Sex, drugs and dance music are the common denominators. It’s a head scratcher when people say it’s so inclusive, it ain’t. 😂😂😂 Any straight friends I had hanging out with me going to clubs got a different education, pretty much just as you describe. Thank you, sir!
A pleasure! Glad you watched my content!
LGBTQ activists are the worst. They scream acceptance and inclusion online but will destroy each other with character assassinations for any perceived inconvenience or disagreement.
💯 must be Toronto 🇨🇦😂 they preach inclusiveness but it's the furthest from the truth, I got socially crucified by my "community" for having a different opinion politically on the trans matter involving youth, but I think many are afraid to say anything from fear of being ousted from their weekend circuit 'drug/sex' party groupie
@@user-hi6dj2uo3v Because you have a stupid take?
Wha5s wrong with gay men wanting some places to themselves? Di you also have a problem with women only places? Straight only places? Its human nature
Greetings from Texas. Thank you for highlighting the dark side of the of a community. Most refuse to speak on.
Thanks for listening!
Another Texan. Preach on brother.
Most refuse to speak on it due to fear of PC culture and getting cancelled. Criticising LGBT culture means that they are somehow incapable of wrongdoing because theyre poor and helpless minorities and doing so would make one a “phobic” bigot. It’s all done under the guise of progress.
I’m was a Bouncer (straight) for many years and did some work in gay clubs in Melbourne and Brisbane. I have seen what you have been talking about and much much darker stuff. It’s quite a scene but I have also seen much the same thing with straight private clubs. I am/was a very well regarded security guard like yourself and I did a lot of private work. I think on reflection how I’ve seen people treat each other has made me be a better man. In Australia us Bouncers call these war stories “Warys” a bit of trivia from a fellow brother. Cheers Liam.
THE MOST BRUTAL street fight I saw was two gay lads in a domestic violence situation - legit boxing, soccer kicks to the face - blood everywhere - REALLY scary....
That sounds like me and my x bf...lol...glad I am free of that.
@@NYyankeeboi Me and my girl wanted no parts of it- we just called the cops and let that be it...
Lmfao. Not sure why i found this so funny.
@@DanteLikesRock I wasn’t laughing…
@@DanteLikesRockprobably cause you're the homophobic type that thinks no gay person can fight
As a gay guy who grew up in a small town and later got a glimpse of what the gay world is really about in the big cities, I totally get it. I don't call it a community because it's far from it, and I chose not to take part in that very unhealthy lifestyle .
I feel sorry for your bad experiences, but I see you're a well-rounded guy and was able to make the best with those situations.
Thanks for sharing ❤
I enjoy all your vids, but especially the Security Stories!
Man I always thought bug chasing was an urban legend. Makes me nauseous to think about. 🤮. You know you’re going to break the internet with this one. Good luck mate. Thanks for bringing us this content.
Fingers crossed! Thanks for watching!
""Bug Chasing""?? I must have missed him talking about that,what does it mean??
@@mjh5437 seeking intimate encounters with HIV-positive people... I've seen one short documentary about it, apparently they are an extremely secretive community. But they definitely exist.
@@mjh5437 Gay guys getting off on the idea of catching HIV. There was a Channel 4 documentary about it years ago: ua-cam.com/video/5cu03LOQS04/v-deo.html
Edit: Seems this is a new documentary on the subject. I remember seeing one around 10 years ago so it's not a new thing.
Bug-chasing refers to someone who is obsessed with the idea of catching HIV as a fetish and will go around having unprotected sex (particularly as a bottom) with that specific goal.
'Let me get this straight...'
Let me get this gay
Be transparent
@@balcomoz Be rainbowy
@@mindfulstoic3095 Be careful
@@balcomoz, oh no. "Listen to me. I'll be straightparent about this."
Just discovered your channel today, really loving this Security Stories series, already seen all 5 parts! Nothing more interesting than getting the straight dope from a man who knows what he's talking about, no bluster or bs. Cheers from Canada!
Thanks! A total gong show eh?
Bro all of your security stories are fascinating 🙏
Thanks bud!
Highly . 🇬🇧 🇺🇸
He should make a book of them.
These security stories are great. I could listen to these for hours on end.
A good material for a book
"LIDL scarface" set me off, laughing uncontrollably on the bus
I am gay...and this man speaks 💯 the truth!!!
The media portray gay men as these harmless, camp, friendly queens....but the majority of the Gay Scene is full of sketchy, risky, men...most indulge in illegal substances 😢
Thanks for your comment.
As a gay male from Melbourne in Aus, I’m glad you’re saying all this. It’s painfully true. The bug chasing is a very real thing. Some of the stuff I’ve seen and witnessed at club nights, made me never to go back to those nights. In short some very dark stuff going on. I’m glad I avoid a lot of it now.
Thanks for watching..
Doorman and Bounced at the GH underage dancers came out the back Door.
I left.
It became “only gay”
They are not inclusive…at all.
I used to shoot pool with the trans after closing.
And the new owner got rid of anyone not gay.
Straight relatives Women Lesbians.
It was horrible when the owner bought it from the old Prince of Wales owners Don and Jan.
It was ruined went broke and knocked to the ground.
St Kildas history.
Wow… definitely not all rainbows and unicorns…
@@harrisfrankou2368what's wrong with a gay club being gay only? Gays aren't welcome in most "normal" bars and establishments, they get bashed, assaulted, verbally harrased, etc. And so many now support homophobes refusing service. So then if gays have a place for their own, it's a problem?
Any honest gay man will tell you what they're told me, mostly centring on the misuse of young, vulnerable men by older gay men. A lot of exploitation goes on.
In my bouncer days it seem like the hard core gays were really arrogant, keen to offend, kind of lost and fiendish
We just call them Guido's🤣😂
Andrew Cunanan 😂
Sniffing all that amyl nitrate no wonder you gave up the doors 🤣
Yeah my head nearly exploded!
I mean, come on, that manager/owner probably enjoyed forcing someone to have to do that.
@@thatgearguy Yea, I feel like the owner knew. He told you to sniff the bottles on purpose. They were probably laughing behind the scene. lol
Had a guy accidentally tip a bottle over me while working dance floor security and given no opportunity to change uniform till the end of the shift. I’m always aware how lucky I was not to get my skin burnt, must have been cheap stuff but it stank to high heaven.
Bold and splendid testimony. While I was not security, I did work as a bartender at the newest and most trendy club in the city where I went to school and was in my last year so was not a newbie to the scene. They like risky raw sex but hiss and cower into the darkness when the truth is served fresh and raw. Every observation and interpretation of events is 100% true as I’ve also seen, heard, and read about every single act mentioned and more. It is literally a global pandemic of its own kind among our own kind. Appreciate you sharing.
Who is "they"?
@@jasonthewatchmansson8873 Well, look no further than the video for context. 😂
@@jasonthewatchmansson8873Look no further than the video for context as it’s already implied.
My oh my, but you have some tales to tell, and you tell them very well! I've watched a few of your videos now, and get a very strong feeling of authenticity and honesty from them - no grandstanding, bravado, or pushing an agenda, just telling it like it is.
@@drengskap Thanks!
He’s so neutral it’s refreshing
Straight guy here. Hung on every word. Am loving these security stories.
"Hung".
😂 I'm straight too but damn that's funny. 😆
@@cjackfly I imagine neither of you are straight or you wouldn't feel the need to say so.
As a young woman in the early 90s visiting UK I was taken to a gay club & given poppers (wanted an ambulance not knowing it would only last seconds)...nasty bunch of Somatic Narcissists there really...the hint.. it was called Heaven yet was downstairs...more like Hell...
There used to be another called Trade, in Farringdon. My girlfriend at the time really liked it, her best friend was gay, it was his regular night spot.
Some very, very dark things happened at that club. Particularly the older guys exploiting the younger guys for cash. They made a fortune out of it. The younger guys barely out their teens were left broken and crippled wrecks, the older guys just moved on to a new victim.
remember gearguy. My body my choice. don't let anyone pressure you into anything you don't feel comfortable with.
Ha yeah. Hey if I were single and gay it would have been a great number! One wealthy guy offered me a 12k rolex to spend one night on his boat with him.. Uh uh!
Probably want believe me? Been with alot of women and they might have called me "slow or stand offish" I let them make the first move and if it gets heated (although it sucks) If they say no?, I'll stop, my reputation of being like that got back to le (women talk) I'll never be accused of "date rape" I'm not kind of person! And I'll still treat you nice
Yep. Heard about all of this. Toronto.
Glad someone else mirrors my own opinion of Brighton, and my opinions are formed by spending time there and does not reflect the corporate gloss of the place at all
Jesus. I worked security for a number of Aussie gay clubs from 1992 to 2010. You had creeps of course but way better than the hetro Nightclubs on King Street and Chapel Street. The gays were mostly harmless, the worst was when they threw up or passed out. Perves would be identified and banned. There were always a few dealers about but they were discreet and only dealt out side. They knew any overt shenanigans, they'd be out for good. It only started getting crusty when Meth hit the scene around 2007. You'd get baked gay4pay blokes coming in with their gay drug daddies hassling clients and getting aggro.
Meth ruined a lot of clubs, discretion went out the window. We had a regular who was a School Principal. Really educated fella. He went from a wealthy nice bloke to a bitter violent queen in a year after getting into meth. Lost everything, job, house, health. Ended up in jail. He was in his 60's
But during that first 15 years, it was the best gig ever. Ecstasy and vodka kept everyone happy. There was such a vibe, really fun and joyful. There really was a community - the gays were seeing a light at the end of the tunnel as AIDS became treatable and homophobia started to fade.
Unlike Chapel Street, every weekend there'd be cops, ambulances, bashings. King Street was even worse, yobbos, crims, perverts galore. The bouncers there were some of the toughest, unreasonable arseholes I ever met. They had to be. I once saw an islander guard bite off a guys fingers; the guy in question had just glassed him in the neck, blood was squirting out like a hose.
Nah the gay clubs were the best in my opinion, months would go by without a major incident. I was lucky i got my foot in the door, they were coveted positions and once the owners realised you were fair and able, good at defusing spats, could get a drunk gay out of the club before he spewed up and could take down a gang of skinheads out front, you were in with a grin🤙
Things changed, you cannot live in lala-land of memories.
Things have changed since your days and no wishful thinking or cope can change that.
@@Br1cht dog it was worse back then
@@Br1cht Oh, how endearing, the youthful tone you speak in.
@@sloftyIt’s called young and dumb mate.
@@ChromeLuxx Pretty much.
Ty so much for keeping us informed. I appreciate your concern and honesty.
American political podcaster Michael Malice once said something to the effect of "society always presents being gay as a few effeminate boys having tea parties like grandma but never mention all the drugs and debauchery".
I work service industry. I see and hear a milder version of the stuff you described.
Excellent analysis of the gay scene, gay culture.
Lots of darkness in between the rainbows 🌈
As soon as you said “Brighton”. I knew exactly where this was going. The only place darker I’ve seen is Berlin.
Illuminating and interesting stuff regarding the different subcultures that exist around the 'night time economy' - good luck with the channel!
I'm really enjoying "Security Stories". I hope you have more. So refreshing to hear some reality.
I have so many more!
I really love your security stories thank you for sharing them.
I was a screw / prison gurd for 10 years. The myrh about the super-friendly, outgoing harmless fashion-guy that people have is a myth.
In prison they (gays) were just as impulsive and violent (if not more so) that hetero inmates.
As one inmate said to me:
"They (gays) are still men" and thus potentially very dangerous.
This was great. As we Americans say, some real inside baseball. I’ve worked in gay clubs and have gay friends. What the straight “love is love” progressives don’t understand is that gay men have sex very differently than straight people. What goes on in bath houses is astonishing. I also had a dear friend in fashion college that would smoke crack & “cruise” nyc. He was so handsome and talented. It was terrifying to witness & idk what became of him. The lesbians I know hate gay men for their toxicity & cattiness as well . Everything you say is right on the money.
You don't have gay friends.
Seconded on the lesbian-gay divide. The coalition is nice to get political work done but we’ve been suffering from getting unjustifiably lumped together from the start. Every lettergroup has their own disconnected issues and at this point why should other demographics be expected to solve each ingroup problem?
@@jasonthewatchmansson8873 actually I do ! I’m a bridesmaid in a lesbian wedding. I have many lgbt friends. How do you think I know about the going’s on in gay bathhouses 😂
@@electricfishfan7159 100% on not treating the lgbtq as a monolith. It’s like a Venn diagram. Some issues overlap and others are singular to each group specifically. Thank for the thoughtful reply 🫶🏼
@@jasonthewatchmansson8873Eh??
Wow! Great commentary ! And it’s so true .
Absolutely love your security stories!
Gay men are no different, there are nice guys and predatory guys,
nah!! they are in fact very different in many ways
I find there are far more messed up gay men than hetero in my 54 years as a gay man. I can not stand most of my own community.. which is not a word I actually use for them.. they are not my community and I dont want anything to do with them
@@lg169 in what way ?
@@patrickdalton2424 they use a lot more drugs than the regular population, commit suicide a lot more often, are a lot more promiscuous and being less than 5% of the population have about 80% of STD's.
But this is not part of the narrative, they are supposed to be "virtually normal". There is even a book with that tittle.
Im not shocked by any of this. Especially the rape play. A lot of women have rape fantasies but men are far riskier in our behavior. Idk how to not have a lot of this. We have such high sex drives . Women balance us out. Society as well. I was absolutely reckless and horny all of the time growing up. I can't imagine how bad it would have been if I was gay.
The CNC play of some gay men actually terrifies me.
From my 30s onwards I’ve had quite a large build (I do confess to be a gay gym addict) and I’m a tall guy to can be quite physically intimidating and strong, and whilst I’m a happily married guy now back in those days I always had Grindr notifications (I also admit to having been the typical ab&pec shot gay on Grindr) turned on wherever I went.
I could be at a conference or event and I’d get random messages from guys who have just seen me, checked if I’m on Grindr, found me and offered themselves up to be rape victims. (I should point out I never met any guy who requested to be raped - not my idea of fun at all.)
What always worried me the most was the age of some of these guys who were clearly barely legal, and if they messaged me then who might they message next. My replies were probably not welcomed (I am never sure if I handled this right) and usually got me blocked but all I felt I could do was warn them about the sheer risk they were putting themselves at. It sounds patronising, it it was always meant with care/
When you go over the rainbow, it’s smart to ask “Are you a good witch , or are you a bad witch?”🌈🧚🏼♂️/🧟♀️
Some of us are just witches…
Your are an amazing storyteller. So articulate. Love your content 💪
Thank you! As a small time UA-camr, I really appreciate it!
Absolutely here for these security stories mate they‘re amazing
Thanks!!
Love what you're doing mate, keep up the stories!
Thank you so much for this video. Very well done!
This is all true. As males, gay men are similar to straight men in being sexually adventurous and physically aggressive. No one--straight, gay, or bi--should have to tolerate being sexually harassed or assaulted like that.
Course not. Women bring kind of a balance to men. When Men with men has a big potential for hell simply because of male nature.
I'm going to stick my neck out and say we're not. And what this dude says about working security in a strip club surely backs this up. We're basically sexually timid. Look, any guy who routinely gets "sexually adventurous"with unwilling women is risking getting the literal crap beaten out of him. I know of a guy who groped a girl who'd fallen asleep at a party. The other guys who cornered him at a pub later and literally strung him on the rafters and used him as a human punch pub weren't even really her mates.
Good job telling the truth. It’s the same problem in Canada. Disgusting double standard.
💯 Toronto especially
Same here in Berlin, Germany.
Same in Alaska. Yes, believe it. The Great White North has the same damn problem.
this was hectic and hardcore. brutal!! cheers for the insight, mate
Anyone else think we should start celebrating Humility Month?
Queer or straight, humble people are so much nicer and easier to get on with than members of Pride, Inc.
Totally agree. The biggest issue the LGBTQ+ groups have are the narcissistic, attention seeking morons who claim to represent them.
that would be a great idea, just being a good humanitarian would be a great message if we made it a calendar day.
For the Gays. Get rid of looking up to and emulating people with a bad self centered diva behavior. A lot of gays love that and praise "shady" "cunty" diva behavior. That definitely needs to stop. It's spreading to the general population too. People acting like drag queens or runway models with a diva attitude.
Great idea, a Humility Month!
How about Seven Deadly Sins Awareness Month?
Friends of mine are cops here in the US. The worst domestic violence calls? Gay men. I had never thought about it, but asked a few gay people I know well and they agreed, too. One friend even said "Gay men are the worst to one another, just in regular behavior - forget the domestic violence part"
Thanks for sharing your life experiences with us. I find it to be very interesting and informative, to say the least.
Glad you enjoyed it!
This is brilliant what you are bringing to light for everyone to see, you are like an older brother or a father figure young men and women can learn from
Im not gay but ive had some gay mates so been in the clubs and bars. Drink spiking resulting in R word is more common in that scene than the straight scene.
Ps never go to such a place alone. Especially if wasted. I did once and had 2 predators harrass me and try to make me a victim if you know what i mean. These guys were as big as me and more handy. I was in real danger. I literally had to get the bar staff to save me.
Much higher rates of psychopaths
Prison has tons of predators like that. They love to turn men into their women and I bet those were the types that were trying to get at you. It's disturbing.
"Because I went to unnamed clubs in an unnamed city during an unstated time period, I now know the current frequency of drink spiking at those clubs as compared to other unnamed clubs. This is how crime statistics work!"
I m not gey but i went to a gay bar alone one time and this is what happened...ok buddy
@@guachingman, it's actually common sense to think that the gay scene is more extreme than its straight counterpart.
Interesting stuff - I'm Brighton born and bred, though never really had any contact with that scene being a metalhead - walking past Revenge to get to the Hungry Years could be interesting some nights though 😅
Testosterone is a hell of a drug. Stay safe out there, no matter what team you play for.
Good advice for everyone: «My friends, it is wise to nourish the soul, otherwise you will breed dragons and devils in your heart.» ~C.G. Jung
It’s sad you have to give a disclaimer that you’re not “anti-gay”. I worked in fashion and definitely was a major part of the club scene in NYC. It’s INSANE!
It isn't a "disclaimer". It is a simple truth which I included to try and prevent homophobic trolls taking over the comment section.
@@thatgearguy - Okay the truth is you’re pro gay, not “anti” gay. Got it. Do you think the rainbow behavior you describe in your video pertains to a few bad apples in this subculture or would you entertain the possibility that, collectively, this level of promiscuity and grandiose hedonism is more widespread than you “pro” gay allies would care to admit?
Straight people have called me a prude. Thank God all gay guys aren't like this. It is a lot, though
I got it. Appreciate your storytelling
@@thatgearguy You have liked nearly every homophobic comment on here, including those making completely false claims about all gay people being promiscuous drug users and gay people "hissing" when exposed to the truth. You're as vile as they are.
Sounds like you worked in a very tame club. I was a bartender in a big gay club in the 80s. Yes, we were specifically told to ignore women who came up to the bar and if we couldn't avoid serving them, make them wait until last. Funny, though, when AIDS hit and we lost literally hundreds of customers, then they started catering to both sexes. Then we would take their money LOL. There was a specific area in the back where cocaine dealers were allowed to operate openly. I wouldn't doubt they were paying for the privilege. This bar hired two off duty cops as security. They were paid very well to ignore what was going on - got vacations for the family, free bottles to take home. At that time strip clubs (straight) were not allowed to have total nudity, but in this bar there were fully nude sex shows in the back theater bar and the cops were just told not to go back there. I'll also say that at that time, almost all the gay bars in the United States were mafia owned and they had enormous clout within the police department and City Hall. The cruising for sex in that city was full on, from the time the bars closed until the sun came up, men would drive in an endless loop around back streets. Sometimes it would almost be bumper to bumper. To be very honest, it was incredibly exciting to be a part of all the debauchery. It was harsh and extreme. Fortunately, I survived and haven't even been in a bar for 25 years.
Gay guy from Sydney Australia , your telling the truth I have lived all over Europe and Asia , it the same everywhere . If I have a dinner party with friends and we decide to go out later I wont take them to any club that's a single sex venue and it has to be mixed and gender inclusive .
Thank you for watching from the other side of the world! Have a great day!
Hope you read this but keep up the good work we all need guys like you to speak out about bad behaviour in the LGBTQ community as nobody is safe to do so.
Women are the only ones who can point the female domestic violence problem with any authority.
I tried but got mobbed mocked and threatened. So stay strong you are helping you are not hateful please don't stop.
I don't hold any ill will towards the community either, however I also noticed an interesting correlation. Out 9 years of seeing patients, I have not had a single gay male patient who did NOT experience some sort of sexual, emotional, or physical trauma during childhood. I'm sure they are out there, but makes me ponder. I've brought this up to colleagues and its such a protected topic you can't really discuss it.
Hi I’m a former Registered Nurse. As we grow and develop. When a child experiences such brutality. It takes away a child healthy growth. I refer to this as interrupted growth.
A lot of clinically depressed men in psychiatric hospitals are gay, always seems a bit of a misnomer to me.
That's because many, probably most of us, experienced emotional trauma in our families of origin because we're gay. We were taught to hate ourselves for it. We were often rejected and ridiculed. It's not really surprising that people who hate themselves behave in self-destructive ways. And working as a mental health provider, it makes sense that the people you treat would have experienced traumatic childhood events. People who had good, emotionally nurturing childhoods don't need to seek out mental health treatment to overcome them.
@@danielstoker2668 That situation could technically be applied to everyone admitted :D Nurturing family does indeed help in any situation. I'm not staying it doesn't happen, but that's not the situation I was referring to. Rather the trauma occurs before tendencies develop and cause scrutiny.
I used to be openly gay until I learned the truth, that, yes, homosexuality is caused by emotional (primarily spiritual) neglect. 5 years later and I'm in a much healthier place although I have had moments of weakness, which I find make me more emotionally volatile - I do believe gay sex feeds a monster within. Gays will say they experience abuse _because of_ their tendencies, which absolutely does happen - and frequently - but a deep sense of not belonging (which starts with the mother in infancy) sets the child up for those tendencies in the first place. Anybody interested in this topic should look up Joseph Nicolosi here on UA-cam. Thanks for speaking up.
I have never come across a gay owner of a pub or club who wasn't a perve. They don't know any boundaries.
Yes.
probably because of all the powdered sugar they inhale. it s a powerful buzz. XD
I worked security at a gay club for two years. It was small and the owner was a good guy. It was still brutal. Mostly because people were brutal to each other. What stood out was the unapologetic stalking that would go on. Young or old, it didnt matter
"Let me get this straight" was a good slip
Great video. Thanks for sharing your honest POV and experiences
My pleasure!
Very interesting post,i enjoy all your security stories
Glad you like them!
GAY SUPREMACISTS sounds pretty accurate .
I loved it ~ we call it Big Gay out here, I guess like Big Oil ~ but this is even better !~
Thank you for sharing this video. It is good to hear another side of the story. Your experience is just as valid as everyone else's.
You are so welcome!
Patterns repeat. If caregivers or supposed loved ones beat and abused you as a child, perhaps for being gay, you might end up repeating that pattern; only able to love or be attracted to the abusive dynamic you grew up with, because you know nothing else. Thankfully I escaped that. Got therapy, and retrained myself to seek healthy relationships. Thanks for sharing what you experienced.
Tom Driberg [Baron Bradwell] was a fascinating Englishman and Labour politican.
A gossip columnist for the Daily Express-when it was owned by the Canadian Lord Beaverbrook.
He had been a Communist and a friend of Guy Burgess [one of the 5 Cambridge spies]
He was an inveterate 'cottager'and was arrested several times but because of friends in high places the charges were always dropped-this was a time when young policemen would hang around public lavatories and entrap [and also get a reward from newspapers especially the News of the World]
An old joke :
Tom was arrested on a cold and wet winter's night during the War and Churchill's Private Secretary,Brendan Bracken [?], broke the news to the PM who remarked :
"In this weather at that time of night-makes you proud to be British "
Ha hilarious comment!
I didnt know about bug chasing til i saw a documentary about it early this year, i couldn't believe my eyes
I was surprised by "virus seeking" portion of the community here in Canada too.
It boggles my mind that ANYONE would actively try and catch a potentially life destroying disease.
All of this is destructive, self-hating behaviour.
It is psychologically an *odd* phenomenon. Bugchasing is the intentional desire to catch something. It’s been around for a long time now but has evolved into other things- far darker and even sinister. It’s a dark world for our kind.
@@GuideUsTitusit's legal in S.F. to target an individual and purposely give them H.I.V.
Demonic oppression
There is a reason homosexuality is considered an abomination by God.
Grew up and spent a lot of time around homosexuals. Nothing here surprised me.
Thanks for the post Brother, drinking a beer blazing a Stogie and listening in! Many thanks for the post!
Rock on!
Gay male your age, living in Toronto. I came across your channel and you mentioned that this would be sort of an expose of the Dark Side of gay culture. I watched the entire episode thinking I might hear you say something that would shock me. Everything you said, I'd heard or been exposed to already. Nothing to see here -for gay guys at least. Everything you said was true and a fact of life for many gay men. Very articulate and well presented. Thanks.
Thank you for watching. Interesting to hear from guys within the community who confirm my experience.
I agree, but even in my 20s I found the bar scene, and people hooking up in the alley for 10 minutes, off putting and dysfunctional. Contra indicated for serious relationships. And a response to the shame of living openly with another guy, or introducing him to your parents, so many factors working against real partnerships. We internalized those factors, as many still do. A good film is "Vapors" (1963) by Mickey Shaughnessay, about one night at a gay bathhouse. Actually still relevant today, available on UA-cam.
Please repent & reconsider your depraved & deeply disordered choices.
@@johnryan3913there is no such as a serious gay relationship - that is a complete oxymoron.
@@JohnSmith-qx8ll Clearly you have limited exposure to relationships. All the self loathing on here you'd think it was 1960.
Oh man, you hit the nail on the head again. my 1st wife would take me to these clubs all the time. saw exactly what you describe.
Thank you for this educational video. I rarely go on the gay scene and it's good to be reminded of the dangers.
Regarding the cottaging areas. My flat mate every month or so would end up at one. He never experienced any violence, but he was not looking for that buzz. He just did more mellow things. No penetration. He did always regret it the next day, but never got taken advantage of. This was nottingham i think the woods there had some unwritten rule of consent. At least he never had a 'bad ' experience in the woods if you know what i mean. He did get drugged and r worded once after meeting a guy in a gay club though.
Love the security stories man! Thanks for sharing them!
Wow, fascinating stories. Thank you for the info--wasn't really aware of some of the goings on. I'm sure these behaviors go on in the US as well. Yikes!
"Hey Dr can I get the cocktail"... Sorry we are all out of it 😂😂😂😂😂😂