We cannot continue talking about statistics when they are not reliable. Politicians where shocked when they found out the number of prisoners from foreign countries outnumber the locals. If someone is here illegally is not part of the stats. South Africans let's change one aspect of our behavior and I promise things will change for the better, BRIBE culture is the main catalyst of all this problems.
These guys should come to PE and come and walk in Central .They would not be so smart because they would be in little Nigeria.But they wont because they are afraid and paid to be to be political correct.
You are lost. Why EFF? The EFF do not have a policy to bring the Nigerians without visa, that's the ANC!! It's the ANC who in government !! so why the EFF is taking punches on behalf of the ANC's actions? DO you see your stupidity that it runs in your blood. EFF is not in GNU, You should have said Voetsek to Macpherson to say he wants 11K foreigners to take over jobs. What did you do? NOTHING as usual. Ung'mdi, very usual.
@@africatshipembe9623 Isn't the EFF for open borders or something? I might be mistaken but malema has been on a pan-africanism grift lately but doesn't seem moved to address SAn's issues with unchecked immigration.
I would love that aswell but these government people are strategic..they will offer him a position to be a minister of arts and culture as they did to Makenzie...🤟just saying🤫
The main problem is the ISS and all the United Nations NGOs. Perhaps the countries that fund these NGOs (in this case Scandinavian countries and the EU and Open Society) should take these foreigners in considering they live in the developed world with enough capacity. We dont have resources to house foreigners at all. Our healthcare system is about to break, we still have not benefited from the freedom our parents fought for, neoliberal economics is not working for us… these NGOs must not involve themselves in the affairs of sovereign countries!
@@romeothaele3764 It never made sense because it's not in our nature to be hateful of fellow Africans. Those who favour cheap labour use that word to discredit SANS!
South Africa has its challenges...service delivery/ corruption etc ..but let SA deal with its own de--mons rather that let slide a glaring contributor to the burden of scarce resouces..... How is being an indrive/ ubber/ delivery/ factory worker / security guard/ domestic worker/ painter/ welder etc .....a scarce skill??? Most came eith tourist visa/ student visa/ assylum seeker....today they have businesses ( no sars regustration mostly)... mostly employing undocumented people....its sad😢
Not at all he is protected his land his future grand children unlike us as South Africa leaders doesn't even care about our country welcoming any shirts coming in our country
I’m a passionate software developer facing difficulties in finding employment in South Africa. As I grow older and have kids to care for, the pressure weighs heavily on me. It's disheartening not to be able to provide adequately for my family, and I often worry about putting food on the table. In moments of frustration, I've even considered hacking as an option, but I firmly believe in adhering to the law and maintaining my integrity.
....most of the wedtern cape outskitrs/ infirmal settlents and farm community shacks settlements....THOUSSNDS of undocumented SA inhabitants....and turf wars....its so so sad .😢
They want chaos because they think it will bring about regime change. Little do they know we clocked them as sell outs who will therefore not get our vote.
18:59 Can this man please go to Khutsong Carletonville, West Village, Krugersdorp, Kanana Orkney, Welkom Machabeng, Riverlea, go ask the residents who is terrorising them... 😢😢😢
Excuse me journalist when a speaker in your show talks RESPECT the person until he finishes, your behaviour is not acceptable. We are all HUMANS IRRSPECTIVE OF COLOUR.
Ike, my brother, you did well. 👌 It's not easy to defeat 3 people who are determined not to face the truth. Even on a resource allocation point of view, they should've given you 50% of airtime and for them to share the remaining 50%...because their arguments are steeped in the same/similar logic of lie peddling and hatred of black SAns/love for illegal immigrants. Yinde lendlela🤔
I'm getting very confused why people always bringing in crimes committed by our own Citizens.a standard process to deal with our own crimes..but people mixed crimes committed by Foreign Nationals...Every country deal with its own challenges...
As if other Countries are crime free..their citizens don't commit crimes.... A Foreign Nationals is not even allowed to get involved commiting crimes on a foreign soil....
I disagree that apartheid never allowed Black people to education. The white people did allow Black people to go to schools in the townships. The education in the townships was way better than what is taught now. We had universities for all races, we also had teachers colleges, colleges to train as a nurse, technikons and TVET colleges. These colleges were able absorb all the students thst coukd not go or accepted in university. Ike President for you, excellent contribution. You r right the census information given is incorrect. I think we r more than 100 million. It can't be for the past 30 years we still have 60 million population. These Whites panelist r talking BS. They need to do further research.
The South African people's poverty plight is not caused by immigrants but by poor governance and corruption in the ANC government. The problem of poverty lies with the government and it's been like this since apartheid and carried on by the black government rment. It's always expected that the poor often take their frustrations of poverty onto the minority groups.
It's caused by them and foreigners, after what Ike Khumalo just said you still don't get it? You are either not that smart or you lack comprehension. Ike is rite, both government and private sector benefit from excluding South Africans through this cheap labour system that seems to be lucrative for them.
This is not an intellectual problem to solve. Illegal immigration problems faced are the by-product of an incompetent and ill-equipped government. There are limited resources (jobs, housing, health facilities, land, water, minerals etc) and people want to be able to utilize those limited resources without having to compete for them with non citizens.
Two truths exist. An incompetent & corrupt government looting resources. And an influx of illegal immigrants putting strain on already strained resources.
Absolute bull shite, it was never like this during Apartheid, why do you think Apartheid government had electric fences around borders. You immigrants come up with all kinds of nonsense. Stop telling our government what to do , go tell your own governments to fix your countries. Stop acting like these people are not adding to our burden. They overcrowding our schools, overcrowding our hospitals, 22 000 of them in prison that tax payers have to pay for. They opening businesses without paying tax and are undercutting SA business selling their counterfeit goods. They are working illegally in jobs that SA people used to work in before. Our kids are being poisoned with rotten food. Children being kidnapped and sold as child prostitutes, we never had anything like taht. The ANC government is allowing all this nonsense.
Ike Khumalo Stand for South Africans 🇿🇦 🔥🔥🔥.
Thank you for your contribution bra IKE🙏🏽
You spoke well brother 🙏🏾 👏🏾 you have been heard loud and clear!!
The two white gentlemen are just blowing air from their mouths.
We cannot continue talking about statistics when they are not reliable. Politicians where shocked when they found out the number of prisoners from foreign countries outnumber the locals. If someone is here illegally is not part of the stats. South Africans let's change one aspect of our behavior and I promise things will change for the better, BRIBE culture is the main catalyst of all this problems.
These guys should come to PE and come and walk in Central .They would not be so smart because they would be in little Nigeria.But they wont because they are afraid and paid to be to be political correct.
These people think we are stupid 😂😂😂
Please put South African safety first....we need our country and economy back
ALL 4reinas must go and fix their countries. FUSEK EFF, FUSEK ANC
You are lost. Why EFF? The EFF do not have a policy to bring the Nigerians without visa, that's the ANC!! It's the ANC who in government !! so why the EFF is taking punches on behalf of the ANC's actions? DO you see your stupidity that it runs in your blood. EFF is not in GNU, You should have said Voetsek to Macpherson to say he wants 11K foreigners to take over jobs. What did you do? NOTHING as usual. Ung'mdi, very usual.
@@africatshipembe9623
Isn't the EFF for open borders or something? I might be mistaken but malema has been on a pan-africanism grift lately but doesn't seem moved to address SAn's issues with unchecked immigration.
This is exactly what Donald J. Trump is doing and it's absolutely right
I wish Mr Khumalo could form a political party, we need people like him✊🏽
I would love that aswell but these government people are strategic..they will offer him a position to be a minister of arts and culture as they did to Makenzie...🤟just saying🤫
@AneleSkenjana-n3p good point there but I doubt🥹
These mlungus are misinformed they don't know what's happening in our country.
Danko Bra Ike
The main problem is the ISS and all the United Nations NGOs. Perhaps the countries that fund these NGOs (in this case Scandinavian countries and the EU and Open Society) should take these foreigners in considering they live in the developed world with enough capacity. We dont have resources to house foreigners at all. Our healthcare system is about to break, we still have not benefited from the freedom our parents fought for, neoliberal economics is not working for us… these NGOs must not involve themselves in the affairs of sovereign countries!
You are right 100%. This NGO's, and Black sellout Class are problem.
Ike is perfect to be president' of this country. He is hondst and know the history of this country
Since when is this a bad and evil thing to oppose mass, enforced demographic changes? We have exactly the same problems in Turkey too.
We have been called xenophobic so many times that it lost its meaning.
@@romeothaele3764 It never made sense because it's not in our nature to be hateful of fellow Africans. Those who favour cheap labour use that word to discredit SANS!
Its said to be bad by those who benefit from cheap Labour.
We just patriotic and ppl run with the word xenophobia we are not, we love our country ppl need to go back and fix their countries
I love how you brought up the undocumented immigrants that are not on counted in the satistics .
South Africa has its challenges...service delivery/ corruption etc ..but let SA deal with its own de--mons rather that let slide a glaring contributor to the burden of scarce resouces.....
How is being an indrive/ ubber/ delivery/ factory worker / security guard/ domestic worker/ painter/ welder etc .....a scarce skill???
Most came eith tourist visa/ student visa/ assylum seeker....today they have businesses ( no sars regustration mostly)... mostly employing undocumented people....its sad😢
Not only cities they are also in towns and villages
Is donald trump xenophobic??
Not at all he is protected his land his future grand children unlike us as South Africa leaders doesn't even care about our country welcoming any shirts coming in our country
I’m a passionate software developer facing difficulties in finding employment in South Africa. As I grow older and have kids to care for, the pressure weighs heavily on me. It's disheartening not to be able to provide adequately for my family, and I often worry about putting food on the table. In moments of frustration, I've even considered hacking as an option, but I firmly believe in adhering to the law and maintaining my integrity.
They can't blame 'Bantu education'as there are plenty of University and tertiary institution graduates who are also unemployed!
....most of the wedtern cape outskitrs/ infirmal settlents and farm community shacks settlements....THOUSSNDS of undocumented SA inhabitants....and turf wars....its so so sad .😢
Im pretty sure those white people were trying to gaslight you into thinking youre crazy. And the point you made about statistics is spot on.
They want chaos because they think it will bring about regime change. Little do they know we clocked them as sell outs who will therefore not get our vote.
Please tell them to go I prisoner they will see what Mr khumalo say
18:43 This one must not come here to gaslight us... We are not stupid!
18:59 Can this man please go to Khutsong Carletonville, West Village, Krugersdorp, Kanana Orkney, Welkom Machabeng, Riverlea, go ask the residents who is terrorising them... 😢😢😢
Excuse me journalist when a speaker in your show talks RESPECT the person until he finishes, your behaviour is not acceptable. We are all HUMANS IRRSPECTIVE OF COLOUR.
YOU can be more of HUMAN IN YOUR OWNCOUNTRIES
Ike, my brother, you did well. 👌
It's not easy to defeat 3 people who are determined not to face the truth. Even on a resource allocation point of view, they should've given you 50% of airtime and for them to share the remaining 50%...because their arguments are steeped in the same/similar logic of lie peddling and hatred of black SAns/love for illegal immigrants.
Yinde lendlela🤔
I'm getting very confused why people always bringing in crimes committed by our own Citizens.a standard process to deal with our own crimes..but people mixed crimes committed by Foreign Nationals...Every country deal with its own challenges...
As if other Countries are crime free..their citizens don't commit crimes....
A Foreign Nationals is not even allowed to get involved commiting crimes on a foreign soil....
This thing xenophobia is this anc gavament abo Novula Nomkonyane to say South African s aleyzi to day we are in this nonsense
🎉🎉
I disagree that apartheid never allowed Black people to education. The white people did allow Black people to go to schools in the townships. The education in the townships was way better than what is taught now. We had universities for all races, we also had teachers colleges, colleges to train as a nurse, technikons and TVET colleges. These colleges were able absorb all the students thst coukd not go or accepted in university.
Ike President for you, excellent contribution. You r right the census information given is incorrect. I think we r more than 100 million. It can't be for the past 30 years we still have 60 million population.
These Whites panelist r talking BS. They need to do further research.
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Shortsighted whyts
The interviewer is always cutting short sentences
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The South African people's poverty plight is not caused by immigrants but by poor governance and corruption in the ANC government. The problem of poverty lies with the government and it's been like this since apartheid and carried on by the black government rment. It's always expected that the poor often take their frustrations of poverty onto the minority groups.
It's caused by them and foreigners, after what Ike Khumalo just said you still don't get it?
You are either not that smart or you lack comprehension.
Ike is rite, both government and private sector benefit from excluding South Africans through this cheap labour system that seems to be lucrative for them.
If you know all these facts why our country have to be flooded with other poor people to take what is not even enough for South African.
This is not an intellectual problem to solve. Illegal immigration problems faced are the by-product of an incompetent and ill-equipped government. There are limited resources (jobs, housing, health facilities, land, water, minerals etc) and people want to be able to utilize those limited resources without having to compete for them with non citizens.
Two truths exist.
An incompetent & corrupt government looting resources.
And an influx of illegal immigrants putting strain on already strained resources.
Absolute bull shite, it was never like this during Apartheid, why do you think Apartheid government had electric fences around borders. You immigrants come up with all kinds of nonsense. Stop telling our government what to do , go tell your own governments to fix your countries. Stop acting like these people are not adding to our burden. They overcrowding our schools, overcrowding our hospitals, 22 000 of them in prison that tax payers have to pay for. They opening businesses without paying tax and are undercutting SA business selling their counterfeit goods. They are working illegally in jobs that SA people used to work in before. Our kids are being poisoned with rotten food. Children being kidnapped and sold as child prostitutes, we never had anything like taht. The ANC government is allowing all this nonsense.