What a great meet! I really enjoyed having Aly Raisman as commentator. She is one of my favorite gymnasts. Way to go LSU, and a great away score for Kentucky as well.
what an AMAZING meet. so so happy for LSU!!! that floor rotation was textbook perfect. haleigh is one of, if not the best right now imo, but her vault was over scored. i definitely think sierra deserved and would’ve gotten a much higher score if she wasn’t in lead off, at least a 9.925. i didn’t even see any deductions. so sad when ashley fell, because after she got back up her routine was gorgeous. just an unfortunate mistake. but WOW so happy for kiya’s 10 and haleighs! also, i cringed when KJ fixed her leo😭 it would’ve been a 10 otherwise!!! she’s SO deserving and she’ll get her moment soon, i just know it.
I absolutely adore Ali and having her announce is so much fun ❤!!! She’s such a knowledgeable gymnast and wonderful personality 👑. What an incredible meet this was . So much talent and high spirits 👏🏼❤️❤️❤️
Raena got robbed on floor. She should have had many 10s in her career. Judges are reluctant to give 10s to a school that hasn’t historically had the same pedigree as the big names. It’s just plain wrong. I am rooting for Raena to eventually get the 10 she deserves.
Here for this. Man raena is so underrated but she is one of the most key and consistent gymnasts. And I do hope she gets her 10. And not just one 10 from the judge but both
I love Haleigh but that vault was overscored. Her feet moved and she was slightly off to the side. On the flipside (no pun intended) Sierra was underscored on both events, especially on floor. I'd love to know where they found .125 worth of deductions on that routine.
i already made a long comment, but wanted to add so happy to see chase again. i was so upset when she stumbled on vault, but i KNOW she has many sticks coming :) also i’m really missing alyona and elena this season :( i know we’ll see elena soon, but wishing for a speedy recovery for both of them. for bryce wilson also!! was so excited to see her this season
Yes everyone we know and she knows that Haleigh’s 9.975 was not correct. She knows it. Who knows what the judges saw- but we know. We don’t need to say it in every comment. Everyone is aware! lol
Ally did so good! KJ Johnson picking her wedge to the music mid routine 😆 I actually loved it. Didn’t miss a beat or step. Did kind of miss the wedge on the right though.
Thanks for uploading! Some odd scoring last night - KJ & Raena definitely should have had 10's on floor. Patterson was scored way too low on her vault. Speaking of Patterson...why does she talk like a 5 year old? Aly did a great job with her commentary - I think JR was the perfect partner for her first broadcast.
I thinks it’s kind of sad the changed the beam routine for Konnor McClain. It would’ve been so refreshing to see het do the difficulty I know she can do
Agreed. Konnor is capable of greatness on beam. I can only hope this adjustment is for rebuilding her confidence on beam and that we will later see the same konnor from the exhibition. She had a few wobbles then but her difficulty level was so high, so I wasn't mad about it.
people are so dramatic. This meet was not that badly scored. There were a few high scores, yes, but there were also a few that didnt score as well as they probably should have. I think it evens out. Yeah, its annoying, but i think they still would have hit 198 and they most definitely would have still won.
Agreed. Sierra was underscored on beam and floor. Kj was also underscored on floor. Konnor did better on bars than her score as well. She didn't stick the landing but it was only a small step and her technique up until then was among the best of the night. Her handstands are gorgeous! What exactly did they deduct in Savannah's bar routine. Gymnastics in general needs a more uniform and transparent way of scoring. Too many times it feels like the judges just randomize pick numbers. Something needs to be done. But this meet wasn't the worst. The judges were off on scores for both sides.
Haleigh’s 9.975 on vault…. Interesting… Clearly the judges are fans of Bryant, it’s a judgment based on the name smh. Don’t get me wrong, I love her, but that wasn’t it 🤦🏾♀️
Oy...okay...not surprisingly; LSU got some gifts at home. However, it was not as egregious as I feared. LSU wasn't given this win, they earned it. -Hayleigh could very easily have had a vault score below 9.8 had all the rules been applied correctly. She needs to be patient with those landings and realize that covering up landing deductions can equal more deductions than just landing, taking one small step, bringing the feet back together and saluting. -Hayleigh also has the flattest feet in creation in that UB dismount. I can even forgive the cowboying because it helps her avoid injury by being able to spot the landing. However, the flat feet and landing with feet apart should get deductions. I'd have gone 9.900 there. -Same thing for Kiya on FX. I'm thrilled she's back and she looks great. Her feet in that full-twisting double back opening pass are so flat I could serve cocktails on her soles. They're so flexed it almost looks purposeful. And before anyone says it's harder for black girls to have perfect toe-point, that's not true. And, even if it were, she shows she _can_ flip with pointed toes in the double pike--not perfectly extended and pointed, but it shows she can pull it off.
LSU did good tonight but some scores were just a little over scored. Some comparisons I could make but the biggest has to be Kiya and Raena floor. I would have put their scores as the same
Yup one of the gymnasts from UK did the same vault as Bryant from LSU and actually stuck it... The score discrepancy was 9.925 vs Bryants 9.975. just make it make sense. She's incredible, she doesn't need falsely elevated scores.
the meet wasnt able to be broadcasted on SEC right away because of another meet still finishing up, so it started on SEC+ and had to get switched over afterwards. I was annoyed too, but I don't think it was on purpose.
Love Haley, but her vault was not a 9.975, she never held the stick position. Ariana got a great stick and only got a 9.925. I get that it wasn't as high as Haley but come on...judging is still a bit all over the place..Also love seeing Aly Raisman commentating 😊
ncaa gymnastics seriously needs to get their judges together reinforce the important of non biased judging 😭it seems like they give high scores for big names from prominent schools
Love seeing Ali Raisman here and she did a really good job!! Good, insightful comments delivered clearly. Well done! Sincere question, so please don't come for me. I see a lot of comments here questioning the score for Haleigh Bryant's vault. As someone with very limited gymnastics knowledge I'd really appreciate someone explaining where they feel it was lacking? It's my understanding that while important, sticking a landing is only one component. The height off the table, the distance traveled, the form in the air and alignment on landing are all scored. So other than not sticking the landing, where else would you have taken marks away? Also, comparisons have been made with another gymnast's vault so if you could point put where they performed it better that would help as well. As I said, I have very little working knowledge but I love this sport and would like to learn all I can!
basically yes, haleigh didn't fully stick it. theres also a new rule this year that they have to hold their ending position for a full second before saluting. she may have held it, but she was clearly not in full control (she was leaning backwards). the judges average their scores in order to get her actual score. Therefore, one gave her a 9.95 and the other gave her a 10. That's why it should not have been a 9.975 because the judge with the 10 did not take the necessary deductions. here are the comparisons with arianna patterson's vault (the one people are saying was better): HALEIGH: * gets a lot of distance * better form in my opinion * gets her chest up right away * did NOT fully stick it * keeps her legs and feet together throughout the whole thing (including the landing) * gets super high of the table (good block) ARIANNA: * lands closer to the table * stuck it * her feet were a little farther apart on the landing * landed with chest down a little * does not get as high off the table I personally think haleigh's was overall better, but it's a whole controversy. I hope this helps!
I could have sworn that first handstand was not totally vertical on Haleigh Bryant’s 10.0 bars. Maybe it’s the angle that’s playing me. Anyway, great meet to watch :)
im an lsu fan till i die, but delaynee is a wonderful gymnast. but i do have to say i hated seeing almost all the same dismount on bars. it is smart though because its such an easy dismou
1. ALY!!!!!❤ 2. I just can't get over (well deserved) the crowd numbers at LSU!💜👏 3. 💜 Haleigh Bryant🚀🔥and 4. THE FRESHMAN Konnor💜 McClain🌟🌟🌟 Hailey Bryant, Senior, Master Gymnast, OLYMPICS-OLYMPICS-OLTPICS (😢no 2024 though)
The scores should have been way more close. I think LSU was more consistent and they deserved the win but like for 0.1/0.3 maximum. Shame LSU is always overscored at home, then they go away and the scores are way lower that they expect.
Exactly and Raena from UK didn’t get a 10. Like what more do they want her to do. Her form is great, leaps and tumbling are high and landings are controlled. Like come on.
a lot of great gymnasts in this room but for me the best of them is still aly raisman! great meet but i really dont like the scoring in the PMAC. often it feels like LSU has a scoring advantage at home. which they dont need. because they are great. i am just not happy with how their home meets are scored. and does someone know why Elena Arenas is not competing? I miss her big beautiful yurchenko full on vault (i know - not the 10.0 start value but last season it was cleaner executed than a lot of the yurchenko 1 1/2) and it is a shame that they didnt give Raena Worley a 10 on bars!
Arianna should have gotten a 10 as her vault was much better than Haleigh’s. Another example of over scoring for her vaults. Still don’t know how she got a 10 last year with a clear hop on the landing.
Love Aly. So glad to see her.
Watched the meet last night. Aly did an AWESOME job.
Who doesn't love her? She is one of the all time greats!
So great to see Aly! My favorite all-time gymnast.
Aly is my favourite gymnast of all time and it made me so happy to listen to her commentate this great meet!!
Love Aly as a commentator.
What a great meet! I really enjoyed having Aly Raisman as commentator. She is one of my favorite gymnasts. Way to go LSU, and a great away score for Kentucky as well.
THANK YOU! You are doing the lord's work. Seriously, your uploads are so greatly appreciated. ❤❤❤
what an AMAZING meet. so so happy for LSU!!! that floor rotation was textbook perfect. haleigh is one of, if not the best right now imo, but her vault was over scored. i definitely think sierra deserved and would’ve gotten a much higher score if she wasn’t in lead off, at least a 9.925. i didn’t even see any deductions. so sad when ashley fell, because after she got back up her routine was gorgeous. just an unfortunate mistake. but WOW so happy for kiya’s 10 and haleighs! also, i cringed when KJ fixed her leo😭 it would’ve been a 10 otherwise!!! she’s SO deserving and she’ll get her moment soon, i just know it.
Is fixing your Leo actually a deduction tho? I though that wasn’t a thing anymore
@@klg4zyyessss it us
@@klg4zyhmmm they may have changed it, but last i heard i think so. i mean i saw no visible deductions in that routine other than that
@@lexi02peterson I mean me neither, she is really amazing and so fun to watch!
I absolutely adore Ali and having her announce is so much fun ❤!!! She’s such a knowledgeable gymnast and wonderful personality 👑. What an incredible meet this was . So much talent and high spirits 👏🏼❤️❤️❤️
Waking up as a European and being able to watch this is amai
#1 Gym Fan once again being the hero we all need. You are the best for posing these meets.
Raena got robbed on floor. She should have had many 10s in her career. Judges are reluctant to give 10s to a school that hasn’t historically had the same pedigree as the big names. It’s just plain wrong. I am rooting for Raena to eventually get the 10 she deserves.
i totally agree! same with her and cally nixon from a bit ago :( i truly hope she gets her ten shes so deserving unlike many ou girls..
Here for this. Man raena is so underrated but she is one of the most key and consistent gymnasts. And I do hope she gets her 10. And not just one 10 from the judge but both
I think she’s my favorite athlete in the NCAA. So positive, so much fun to watch. Just a delight of a gymnast, all around :)
@klg4zy how can you not like someone that sings during their beam performance but she's always such a ray of sunshine.
I love Haleigh but that vault was overscored. Her feet moved and she was slightly off to the side. On the flipside (no pun intended) Sierra was underscored on both events, especially on floor. I'd love to know where they found .125 worth of deductions on that routine.
Aly did such a good job commentating! Hope to see her back ❤
Lsu was just fire on floor! Love these routines 💜
i already made a long comment, but wanted to add so happy to see chase again. i was so upset when she stumbled on vault, but i KNOW she has many sticks coming :) also i’m really missing alyona and elena this season :( i know we’ll see elena soon, but wishing for a speedy recovery for both of them. for bryce wilson also!! was so excited to see her this season
I don't think I've seen these LSU leos before, they're awesome!
The LSU ones? They were new last season, this is their second outing
@@KT-mj9kf O cool, must have missed them last year
@@walkingcarpet420they wore them at regional prelims last year
They are cool, like butterfly inspired 🦋
They are called the "Cancer Leo". This was the cancer awareness meet.
Aly Raisman is so cool! I’m so happy for her! That was a great meet! Keep up the great work, my friend!😊🤍👊🏾
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Thank you for posting these gymnastics teams! Fantastic meet!👍. YEA LSU 🙌🙌♥️♥️
Aly was amazing ❤❤❤❤both teams did so great
Screamed when I saw Aly omg. The love I have for this woman? She's just iconic
Isn’t that Aly mom behind her? Nice of her to support her daughter on first night!
I know! She was such a proud mamma the whole time! ❤❤❤
Yeees, I noticed her mom behind her too😊😊
Pleasantly surprised with Aly’s commentary. She sounds like she’s been doing it forever
Aly did such an amazing job!!
Would have loved to see Kentucky pull out a win but a great meet nonetheless
If lsu gets consistent on beam they are going to be unbeatable
So proud of LSU. They were fierce like it should be!!
were you proud when haleigh got 9.975 with a non stick vault and ariana got 9.925 with a stick ?
@@regardzz No, lol. Proud of her rho.
Tho*
Yes everyone we know and she knows that Haleigh’s 9.975 was not correct. She knows it. Who knows what the judges saw- but we know. We don’t need to say it in every comment. Everyone is aware! lol
Awesome to see Aly. Hope she comes back. Thank you again for all your hard work. ❤❤❤
Ally did so good! KJ Johnson picking her wedge to the music mid routine 😆 I actually loved it. Didn’t miss a beat or step. Did kind of miss the wedge on the right though.
Aly, your voice is so beautiful... your commentating is so helpful... you are perfect for this!
Aly did such a great job commentating! Happy for her!
Aly Raisman ❤❤❤
Thanks for uploading!
Some odd scoring last night - KJ & Raena definitely should have had 10's on floor. Patterson was scored way too low on her vault. Speaking of Patterson...why does she talk like a 5 year old?
Aly did a great job with her commentary - I think JR was the perfect partner for her first broadcast.
Thank u I haven’t seen anyone else say it. Raenas floor was absolutely beautiful I was shocked it wasn’t a 10
thats just her voice..
You noticed that too I noticed it like 2 years ago and was like uhhhhhhh 🤷 Def wasn't expecting that but
Ali and is an awesome Commentator. So knowledgeable. I love how relaxed she is narrating. It seems like she's been doing this for years!!!
I thinks it’s kind of sad the changed the beam routine for Konnor McClain. It would’ve been so refreshing to see het do the difficulty I know she can do
Agreed. Konnor is capable of greatness on beam. I can only hope this adjustment is for rebuilding her confidence on beam and that we will later see the same konnor from the exhibition. She had a few wobbles then but her difficulty level was so high, so I wasn't mad about it.
I audibly shrieked with excitement when I saw you uploaded this 😂
scoring was accurate pretty accurate this meet… minus vault. very great meet!!
Kentucky leos are the coolest I’ve seen this year. LSU’s also very nice. A great meet for looks all around
people are so dramatic. This meet was not that badly scored. There were a few high scores, yes, but there were also a few that didnt score as well as they probably should have. I think it evens out. Yeah, its annoying, but i think they still would have hit 198 and they most definitely would have still won.
Agreed. Sierra was underscored on beam and floor. Kj was also underscored on floor. Konnor did better on bars than her score as well. She didn't stick the landing but it was only a small step and her technique up until then was among the best of the night. Her handstands are gorgeous! What exactly did they deduct in Savannah's bar routine.
Gymnastics in general needs a more uniform and transparent way of scoring. Too many times it feels like the judges just randomize pick numbers. Something needs to be done. But this meet wasn't the worst. The judges were off on scores for both sides.
Aly should be a standard commentator!! Absolutely fantastic!
Thank you!
Can someone lmk where the deductions are in sierra ballard floor?
slightly bent knees and chest down in double lay
Haleigh’s 9.975 on vault…. Interesting… Clearly the judges are fans of Bryant, it’s a judgment based on the name smh. Don’t get me wrong, I love her, but that wasn’t it 🤦🏾♀️
Definitely was a 9.950 though
@@diamondgiddens1193 I agree, that 10 was definitely just “thrown” though.
@@fayeraye on bars? Honestly I can see that
@@diamondgiddens1193 oh no, I meant on vault for the 9.975!!!
@@fayeraye ohhhh yeah absolutely definitely wasn’t a 10
Oy...okay...not surprisingly; LSU got some gifts at home.
However, it was not as egregious as I feared. LSU wasn't given this win, they earned it.
-Hayleigh could very easily have had a vault score below 9.8 had all the rules been applied correctly. She needs to be patient with those landings and realize that covering up landing deductions can equal more deductions than just landing, taking one small step, bringing the feet back together and saluting.
-Hayleigh also has the flattest feet in creation in that UB dismount. I can even forgive the cowboying because it helps her avoid injury by being able to spot the landing. However, the flat feet and landing with feet apart should get deductions. I'd have gone 9.900 there.
-Same thing for Kiya on FX. I'm thrilled she's back and she looks great. Her feet in that full-twisting double back opening pass are so flat I could serve cocktails on her soles. They're so flexed it almost looks purposeful. And before anyone says it's harder for black girls to have perfect toe-point, that's not true. And, even if it were, she shows she _can_ flip with pointed toes in the double pike--not perfectly extended and pointed, but it shows she can pull it off.
LSU did good tonight but some scores were just a little over scored. Some comparisons I could make but the biggest has to be Kiya and Raena floor. I would have put their scores as the same
Bryant on vault? Like...it's not needed!
Yup one of the gymnasts from UK did the same vault as Bryant from LSU and actually stuck it... The score discrepancy was 9.925 vs Bryants 9.975. just make it make sense. She's incredible, she doesn't need falsely elevated scores.
@omglauraelizabeth The judges also score height, distance, position in the air. There's much more to be scored on vault than just landing.
@@abn428 yeah I'm aware. And it wasn't THAT much better.
if you can swing bars. you're an absolute BEAST!!! RESPECT
Whose decision was it to just show the crowd when Cadence from UK was on bars?? Straight up disrespectful.
the meet wasnt able to be broadcasted on SEC right away because of another meet still finishing up, so it started on SEC+ and had to get switched over afterwards. I was annoyed too, but I don't think it was on purpose.
Right I was soooooo mad and then they tried to play it off. Nobody cared about the empty rafter seats
Thanks 😊.
i love that they showed the crowd while we could hear a bars routine... instead of showing the bar routine
hello aly happy to see you♥️♥️♥️good job👏👏👏🌹
Sierra Ballard was robbed on floor
1000%
Aly did such a good job commentating for this competition.
Sorry but Kiya's foot clearly moved on the landing on her first pass...floor scores were wild
52:51 perfect 🎉🎉
20:59 Opps 😮to go
Love Haley, but her vault was not a 9.975, she never held the stick position. Ariana got a great stick and only got a 9.925. I get that it wasn't as high as Haley but come on...judging is still a bit all over the place..Also love seeing Aly Raisman commentating 😊
*Haleigh
With the height of that vt it's worth
ncaa gymnastics seriously needs to get their judges together reinforce the important of non biased judging 😭it seems like they give high scores for big names from prominent schools
Thank you for the uploads. This Canadian is forever indebted to you! 🫶🏼
What a great night for sec gymnastics!
I just cannot get my head around some of these scores, where were the deductions on Konnors bars?
That save was iconic
Sooooo there has GOT to be something else going on with college gymnastics if the entire meet comes down to stuck landings only....
Is Aly's Mum sat behind her? Soooo cute wth
Love seeing Ali Raisman here and she did a really good job!! Good, insightful comments delivered clearly. Well done!
Sincere question, so please don't come for me. I see a lot of comments here questioning the score for Haleigh Bryant's vault. As someone with very limited gymnastics knowledge I'd really appreciate someone explaining where they feel it was lacking? It's my understanding that while important, sticking a landing is only one component. The height off the table, the distance traveled, the form in the air and alignment on landing are all scored. So other than not sticking the landing, where else would you have taken marks away? Also, comparisons have been made with another gymnast's vault so if you could point put where they performed it better that would help as well. As I said, I have very little working knowledge but I love this sport and would like to learn all I can!
basically yes, haleigh didn't fully stick it. theres also a new rule this year that they have to hold their ending position for a full second before saluting. she may have held it, but she was clearly not in full control (she was leaning backwards). the judges average their scores in order to get her actual score. Therefore, one gave her a 9.95 and the other gave her a 10. That's why it should not have been a 9.975 because the judge with the 10 did not take the necessary deductions.
here are the comparisons with arianna patterson's vault (the one people are saying was better):
HALEIGH:
* gets a lot of distance
* better form in my opinion
* gets her chest up right away
* did NOT fully stick it
* keeps her legs and feet together throughout the whole thing (including the landing)
* gets super high of the table (good block)
ARIANNA:
* lands closer to the table
* stuck it
* her feet were a little farther apart on the landing
* landed with chest down a little
* does not get as high off the table
I personally think haleigh's was overall better, but it's a whole controversy. I hope this helps!
Taylor Bavis has the most beautiful voice ❤
I could have sworn that first handstand was not totally vertical on Haleigh Bryant’s 10.0 bars. Maybe it’s the angle that’s playing me. Anyway, great meet to watch :)
Incorrect scoring actually ruins the whole meet for viewer.
im an lsu fan till i die, but delaynee is a wonderful gymnast. but i do have to say i hated seeing almost all the same dismount on bars. it is smart though because its such an easy dismou
oh and of course raena worley. cant forget her
1. ALY!!!!!❤ 2. I just can't get over (well deserved) the crowd numbers at LSU!💜👏 3. 💜 Haleigh Bryant🚀🔥and 4. THE FRESHMAN Konnor💜 McClain🌟🌟🌟 Hailey Bryant, Senior, Master Gymnast, OLYMPICS-OLYMPICS-OLTPICS (😢no 2024 though)
Soooo happy for Konnor!
i made it 6 minutes before crying watching, long story
The scores should have been way more close. I think LSU was more consistent and they deserved the win but like for 0.1/0.3 maximum. Shame LSU is always overscored at home, then they go away and the scores are way lower that they expect.
ALY RAISMAN YAY!!!!
Judges must be blind for bryant's 9.97 on vault arianna even stick it better than her yey they give her a 9.92. And kiya 10 floor girl maybe a 9.95.
Straight up what I was thinking! Sux that the judging is still all over the place 🤷♀️
I don’t get it. I wouldn’t say she held her landing that well either
Exactly and Raena from UK didn’t get a 10. Like what more do they want her to do. Her form is great, leaps and tumbling are high and landings are controlled. Like come on.
I like the music for Sierrra Ballard's floor routine. at 1:06:19
I love Aly!!!
is hayleigh not going to take a covid year? she said it's her last year in the interview
a lot of great gymnasts in this room but for me the best of them is still aly raisman!
great meet but i really dont like the scoring in the PMAC. often it feels like LSU has a scoring advantage at home. which they dont need. because they are great. i am just not happy with how their home meets are scored.
and does someone know why Elena Arenas is not competing? I miss her big beautiful yurchenko full on vault (i know - not the 10.0 start value but last season it was cleaner executed than a lot of the yurchenko 1 1/2)
and it is a shame that they didnt give Raena Worley a 10 on bars!
Aly gets a 10.1 in my books!
Why did Aly bring her mom to her first day of work 💀
i fee like bars and beam would be terrifying to start with
What's in the water? These chicks are fresh out the bakery!
So Konnor is a "former" elite..?🤔
They said last week she’s trying for Paris too. I think it was a misspoke in this broadcast
Right, I definitely remember hearing that as well so I was wondering if that was a mistake. Thanks for chiming in!🫶🏽
Hi
1:15:09 the wedgie pick 💀
Crying @ Kiya’s floor
Her mom lynn is sitting behind her.
Aly was great. The guy commenter needs work.
Arianna should have gotten a 10 as her vault was much better than Haleigh’s. Another example of over scoring for her vaults. Still don’t know how she got a 10 last year with a clear hop on the landing.
#1 Gym Fan, when you can get post the Tennessee Collegiate Classic with Ball State, Kent State, Southeast Missouri and Wisconsin-Whitewater...
I don’t think they had an actual broadcast. Only videos avaliable were from the teams themselves
@@katk5462 that is convenient for them. i guess it is because no one can question the out come (Ball State 198 team score.)
@@cjcampbell713 ball state posted the videos and I could see one of them being a legitimate 10. The others, def not
@@katk5462 so the score was giving, not earn. what you saying. that what i was think and i am sure i wasnt the only one that was thinking that.
Wait ball state did what?
LSU 198 oh they hate being a top 8 they only liked being in the top 5 so they can post it next week. 😜
The celebrate like they won the championship after every routine. But the Olympics everyone is all calm cool and collected.
Aly's mom needs a life
Hater
@@jonathanshungu40 She is a disgusting vile human being. It's a fact. You know nothing about her and what she is really like.
lsu with the typical overscored garbage then comes national -> oh non onono LMAO