Can You Pass Harvard University Entrance Exam?

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  • @1_Sumit_Solanki
    @1_Sumit_Solanki 2 місяці тому +883

    If (x = 1): [ 2^1 + 1 = 2 + 1 = 3 ]
    If (x = 2): [ 2^2 + 2 = 4 + 2 = 6 ]
    If (x = 1.5):
    [ 2^{1.5} + 1.5 \approx 2.828 + 1.5 \approx 4.328 ]
    If (x = 1.7):
    [ 2^{1.7} + 1.7 \approx 3.249 + 1.7 = 4.949 ]
    If (x = 1.75):
    [ 2^{1.75} + 1.75 \approx 3.363 + 1.75 = 5.113 ]
    If (x = 1.72):
    [ 2^{1.72} + 1.72 \approx 3.279 + 1.72 = 4.999 ]
    From this, we see that (x) is approximately equal to 1.72.
    2^{1.72} + 1.72 ≈ 5
    X ≈ 1.72

    • @SDarkVader
      @SDarkVader 2 місяці тому +55

      That's what I did in my head because the complicated answer was baffled by how complex he approached it.
      But out of context, it's pretty easy to find the closest squares and since their logarithmic, the answer reflects mental mathematics.
      I was out by 0.02 so I'm not complaining although technically his answer is more precise.

    • @matthewmckenzie7687
      @matthewmckenzie7687 2 місяці тому +15

      @@SDarkVader This is how we would do it in assembler or with the HP15C in days of old.

    • @zidan2020001
      @zidan2020001 2 місяці тому +9

      We can solve it graghicly easier

    • @kalingaanimationstudio
      @kalingaanimationstudio 2 місяці тому +14

      This is why India is ruling

    • @wy154
      @wy154 2 місяці тому +13

      Some functions behave abnormally at some points.
      Your method doesn't always apply.
      You must solve it analytically or graphically

  • @gewinnste
    @gewinnste 3 місяці тому +760

    I'm absolutely sure that this has never been part of a Harvard entrance exam. It's not hard, it's just silly - you need the Lambert W function, which is absolutely niche and guaranteed never taught in any highschool, Gymnasium, lycée, what have you.
    And even if one knew about it, without looking up w(32ln2) on the internet, there'd be no answer other than x= 5-(w(32ln2)/ln2), *which is a more complicated expression than the initial equation !!*

    • @DoctorJammer
      @DoctorJammer 2 місяці тому +59

      You're argument about lambert not being taught in high school is true. However, the expression after solving for x is a constant, which usually is the goal when solving math problems.

    • @alberodellapace9880
      @alberodellapace9880 2 місяці тому +13

      It's close to any trigonometric function though. There is no analytical expression for sin(π/7), however if the answer is sin(π/7), it seems to be better to provide the answer than to say that there is no "simple solution". The LambertW is not an analytical function, but it allows to express the x and this is the task.

    • @Smielc
      @Smielc 2 місяці тому +3

      Can we use desmos in Harward entrance exam?

    • @thierrypauwels
      @thierrypauwels 2 місяці тому +39

      4 years of mathematics at the university, but even there we were never told about the Lambert W function. How could any high school student know about it ????

    • @thierrypauwels
      @thierrypauwels 2 місяці тому +16

      @@alberodellapace9880 It is not about analytical or not. The sine function is taught in secondary school. The Lambert W function is not even taught in mathematics courses in the university.

  • @ketsuno23
    @ketsuno23 3 місяці тому +2719

    I swear to god this could've been finished in 3 steps without raising my blood pressure for 10 minutes straight

    • @iamchiranjeevin
      @iamchiranjeevin 3 місяці тому +74

      Same feeling 😂😂😂😂

    • @diabloprimordial5735
      @diabloprimordial5735 3 місяці тому +125

      Me in college days: "2*+x=5"
      Me as an International Professional Marine Engineer today: "1+1=2, 2-1=1, 2÷2=1, 2x2=4, 1/2+1/2=1"
      Yeah , that's the reality... Almost 90-95% that they thought me (math/chemistry/physics/history) are very useful today in my work.
      Math and history from elementary up to college,
      Physics and Chemistry from highschool to College..😅
      And the most funny thing now is--- Only 5% of it is applicable in real everyday work and life. Like the "-+x÷" 😅😂😂😂

    • @Wawawiwa7
      @Wawawiwa7 3 місяці тому

      ​@@diabloprimordial5735 Well said.

    • @SNagygeller
      @SNagygeller 2 місяці тому +22

      What are those steps, just curious.

    • @svenl.3314
      @svenl.3314 2 місяці тому +116

      @@SNagygellertrying x = 1 … too small. trying x = 2 … too big…
      trying x= 1.5 … too small… trying x = 1.75 … very close…
      probably.

  • @gurugantaal5782
    @gurugantaal5782 2 місяці тому +56

    We only have 70 years of life expectancy. Leave Harvard and Build your own businesses. Don't waste your time in all this.

    • @giahuynguyenhuu2261
      @giahuynguyenhuu2261 11 днів тому +2

      😂😂😂

    • @Official.thorii
      @Official.thorii 10 днів тому +3

      the most realest things i have heard....people dont want lead they just follow"harvard this harvard that..."

    • @gurugantaal5782
      @gurugantaal5782 10 днів тому +1

      @Official.thorii exactly... we need Money for food ... we don't need Harvard

    • @youno13
      @youno13 6 днів тому

      ​​@@gurugantaal5782bro ! If your goal is just money, that doesn't mean it's everyones goal.

  • @hearhaw
    @hearhaw 3 місяці тому +113

    Step 1: Lambert W function
    Step 2: ?
    Step 3: Stephen Hawking

    • @moldovanmoldovan7593
      @moldovanmoldovan7593 2 місяці тому +8

      Step 4 Epstein's Island
      ???
      Step X: ADX Florence

    • @WastrelWay
      @WastrelWay Місяць тому +1

      @@moldovanmoldovan7593 Step Y: Austin ACL festival

    • @mathstodayrajesh3944
      @mathstodayrajesh3944 Місяць тому

      Step Z: Hollygirl dance

    • @Stephenwc
      @Stephenwc 13 днів тому

      This is an entertaining observation. Let's invite Fourier and Riemann as well

  • @DivyanshuShukla-e4z
    @DivyanshuShukla-e4z 2 місяці тому +25

    Instead of this complicated method which also gave approximated value
    We can solve it graphically
    Draw graph of
    y = 2^x
    And y = 5-x
    And check the point of intersection by putting precise values.

    • @kumbara8424
      @kumbara8424 5 днів тому +2

      Genius

    • @nri4950
      @nri4950 День тому +1

      Bua

    • @空頭號
      @空頭號 22 години тому +1

      That is a good idea.
      Actually, that is the fastest idea.

  • @kenvikta6992
    @kenvikta6992 3 місяці тому +256

    Calculator: and where did that bring you?
    back to me☠️

    • @Dr.Birkenmeier
      @Dr.Birkenmeier 3 місяці тому +4

      That is what you call boomerang math

    • @piyushsinghyadav
      @piyushsinghyadav 2 місяці тому +2

      Na u can do it with hit and trail method 😂😂😂

    • @superyoutuberbd2085
      @superyoutuberbd2085 18 днів тому

      ​@@piyushsinghyadavWhat's hit and trail method?

  • @stevenliu4592
    @stevenliu4592 Місяць тому +20

    How about using an iterative method to solve this equation?
    1. Rearrange the equation:
    x = log2(5 - x)
    2. We treat it as an iterative process:
    x_n+1 = log2(5 - x_n)
    3. From the original equation 2^x + x = 5, we conclude 0 < x < 5.
    4. Write a function:
    def find_root(x0, N):
    x = x0
    xs = []
    for i in range(N):
    #print(i, x)
    xs.append(x)
    x = math.log(5-x, 2)
    return x, xs
    5. Given x0 in (0, 5), for example, x0 = 1,
    r, xs = find_root(1, 100)
    6. we could find the function converges very quickly in few step (less than 20), and gets the root of about 1.71562.

    • @exoplanet11
      @exoplanet11 26 днів тому +1

      Well done. I'm guessing that the convergence is quick because the correction terms being added are small...logarithmically proportional to the guesses.

    • @shenzmao
      @shenzmao 11 днів тому

      Yeah, bring coding into this is nice.

    • @mondaynoma1079
      @mondaynoma1079 13 годин тому

      Ah this function is much better than that stupid lamber blah blah function

  • @xl000
    @xl000 3 місяці тому +242

    First, let's define a function H(a,b) that is the solution to the equation: a^x + x = b
    The solution to this problem is obviously H(2,5)
    If you need a numerical value, just find an approximation using an iterative method

    • @sagarbhoi5756
      @sagarbhoi5756 3 місяці тому +12

      1.71562073380367

    • @diabloprimordial5735
      @diabloprimordial5735 3 місяці тому +10

      Me in college days: "2*+x=5"
      Me as an International Professional Marine Engineer today: "1+1=2, 2-1=1, 2÷2=1, 2x2=4, 1/2+1/2=1"
      Yeah , that's the reality... Almost 90-95% that they thought me (math/chemistry/physics/history) are very useful today in my work.
      Math and history from elementary up to college,
      Physics and Chemistry from highschool to College..😅
      And the most funny thing now is--- Only 5% of it is applicable in real everyday work and life. Like the "-+x÷" 😅😂😂😂

    • @gewinnste
      @gewinnste 3 місяці тому +13

      Exactly. What a silly exam task. And I'm absolutely sure that this has never been part of a Harvard entrance exam.

    • @mike7gerald
      @mike7gerald 3 місяці тому +9

      @@gewinnste Too much time wasted on one such question. An elite student should refrain from going to Harvard based on answering such a tedious, ridiculous question. The iterative method is the intelligent solution.

    • @450_undefined
      @450_undefined 2 місяці тому +5

      Let's define t as rational number that satisfies t + log_2(t) = 5.
      Now I can say the answer is x = log_2(t).
      If you need a numerical value, just use calculator.

  • @dejanmarinkovikj9575
    @dejanmarinkovikj9575 3 місяці тому +22

    Approximately (not to pas exam): if we imagine that x=2, we will get number 6 .
    6 is approx 20% more than we need, so we have to decrease 15% number 2.
    2 minus 15% is= 1.7
    That's it
    Not good for exam bad enough good for every day life

    • @sorestarbing3978
      @sorestarbing3978 15 днів тому +2

      this is what i call classical thinking vs next level thinking

    • @elisyajulianty2135
      @elisyajulianty2135 15 днів тому

      Could you explain why it have to decrease 15% and not 20%?

    • @Stephenwc
      @Stephenwc 13 днів тому

      Oh I'd rather have a W in the result - whatever that is.

    • @dejanmarinkovikj9575
      @dejanmarinkovikj9575 11 днів тому

      @@elisyajulianty2135
      Difficult to explain since English is not my native language, but I'll try...
      Example:
      If you add 20% on let's say 10, you will get result 12. But, if you want to cut 20% from 12 you will have 9.6!
      So in order to get result 10 from 12 you have to cut not 20% but 17%...
      This is approx results without mess of decimals

  • @therecogniser2122
    @therecogniser2122 3 місяці тому +714

    Why don’t they just ask shortly: “Do you know the Lambert W?”

    • @emjizone
      @emjizone 3 місяці тому +30

      Maybe because _UA-cam_ value longer videos, even when it's a pure waste or time for humanity, multiplied by the number of viewers.

    • @Dr.Birkenmeier
      @Dr.Birkenmeier 3 місяці тому +8

      @@emjizone I would like to correct you by using the Lambert function Hope you do not mind.. here we go:
      ...... waste or time for humanity, elevated to the cube of the number of viewers... ( that would be more like it)

    • @QuasiRandomViewer
      @QuasiRandomViewer 3 місяці тому +16

      First off, this is **not** a Harvard U entrance exam question for the simple reason there there is no Harvard U entrance exam. They do accept SAT, ACT, and SAT Subject Test standardized tests as part of their comprehensive application package, but they don't have a specific entrance exam of their own.
      Additionally, as you suggest, this question is really two parts, the first being the trivia question you asked -- Do you know the Lambert W? -- and the second being a good test of a student's ability at algebraic manipulation. So a very reasonable test question would be to provide a definition of the Lambert W, and **then** ask for a solution to the equation.

    • @diabloprimordial5735
      @diabloprimordial5735 3 місяці тому +1

      Me in college days: "2*+x=5"
      Me as an International Professional Marine Engineer today: "1+1=2, 2-1=1, 2÷2=1, 2x2=4, 1/2+1/2=1"
      Yeah , that's the reality... Almost 90-95% that they thought me (math/chemistry/physics/history) are very useful today in my work.
      Math and history from elementary up to college,
      Physics and Chemistry from highschool to College..😅
      And the most funny thing now is--- Only 5% of it is applicable in real everyday work and life. Like the "-+x÷" 😅😂😂😂

    • @numbers93
      @numbers93 3 місяці тому +5

      "Excuse me, sir. Have you heard of our lord and savior Lamber W function?"

  • @AutonomousDecentralisation
    @AutonomousDecentralisation 3 місяці тому +199

    You won't understand. It's not about how hard is the exam but rather how hard was for your parents to get rich to be able to afford a good education so that you can pass the Harvard exam and be able to pay it.

    • @Usernamd-wn8mx
      @Usernamd-wn8mx 3 місяці тому +3

      But there is no Harvard's exam...

    • @nahuelastor7522
      @nahuelastor7522 3 місяці тому +4

      This video demonstrate that education now is almost for all.

    • @AutonomousDecentralisation
      @AutonomousDecentralisation 2 місяці тому +4

      @@Usernamd-wn8mx "There is no formula for gaining admission to Harvard. Academic accomplishment in high school is important, but the Admissions Committee also considers many other criteria, such as community involvement, leadership and distinction in extracurricular activities, and personal qualities and character."
      That is pretty much their "examination" to go Harvard...

    • @Usernamd-wn8mx
      @Usernamd-wn8mx 2 місяці тому +5

      @@AutonomousDecentralisation You forgot that "character" means coming from a wealthy family 😉

    • @RC-qf3mp
      @RC-qf3mp 2 місяці тому +4

      @@nahuelastor7522 the question is whether your parents have an internet connection, know how to use UA-cam, and think it’s in their kids best interests to watch UA-cam math problems. But if your kid is 7 feet tall, just give him a basketball.

  • @erikvynckier4819
    @erikvynckier4819 3 місяці тому +221

    To reformulate in terms of the W function is really a circular pseudo-solution.
    It requires numerics which could have been applied straight to the original equation without further ado.

    • @HoSza1
      @HoSza1 3 місяці тому +16

      Why, using sin, cos, ln, exp, et cetera all require numerics (except for well known values) so why are you picking a fight on poor Lambert W function? ❤

    • @pfloreschaparro97
      @pfloreschaparro97 3 місяці тому +12

      The solution is purely symbolic, and exact. The numerical resolution does not provide any further information

    • @cwaddle
      @cwaddle 3 місяці тому +7

      @@HoSza1well, imagine the question was cos(-pi/2+x) = 0.2, find x. What this solution was effective doing was reexpress it as sinx = 0.2 and used the calculater to solve that

    • @Tren-g7jt
      @Tren-g7jt 3 місяці тому +3

      Absolutely agree

    • @douglasdbs7139
      @douglasdbs7139 3 місяці тому +9

      ​@HoSza1 that is not the same thing at all. Log and exponencial and treated algebraically in the solution, while the W function is not. The W function is a numerical trick in this demonstration.

  • @kristofclaus7460
    @kristofclaus7460 3 місяці тому +354

    Me, in my mind, after thinking 5 seconds:"it has to be close to 1.7". I don't even have a degree so close enough for me

    • @lolilollolilol7773
      @lolilollolilol7773 2 місяці тому +8

      Now you have piqued my curiosity. How did you come to that result ?

    • @graydog7
      @graydog7 2 місяці тому +10

      @@lolilollolilol7773 5/3

    • @SekiroEnjoyer123
      @SekiroEnjoyer123 2 місяці тому +31

      @@lolilollolilol7773 assume x=1, the left side would be 3, assume x=2, the left side would be 6. So the answer is between these two. Now assume x=1.5 the left side would be almost 4.3, this tells you you should find the answer between (1.5, 2). Continue the same process. The first few guesses is easy to calculate even in your mind, for example following the same pattern, my guess is x~= 1.75.

    • @CodeDaemon
      @CodeDaemon 2 місяці тому +17

      ​@@SekiroEnjoyer123 You are not solving it, you do brut forcing.

    • @SekiroEnjoyer123
      @SekiroEnjoyer123 2 місяці тому +14

      @@CodeDaemon what? that is a way of solving the problem! Essentially that's THE way to solve an equation in a general form.

  • @doowadiwadi
    @doowadiwadi 3 місяці тому +302

    Harvard doesn't have an entrance exam......

    • @stvp68
      @stvp68 3 місяці тому +16

      I’ve been wondering about that on multiple videos

    • @grayliar147
      @grayliar147 3 місяці тому +10

      Actually, the important thing is not the Harvard entrance exam. There are a lot of UA-cam titles like that.
      I think it's okay as a title to attract attention

    • @rolandsing8380
      @rolandsing8380 3 місяці тому +87

      ​@@grayliar147no, not ok to lie.

    • @Joeyjojoshabbadoo
      @Joeyjojoshabbadoo 3 місяці тому +4

      Right, I thought it was just your grade point average. And your little SAT score. Maybe they should institute one, as there are a startling number of stupid, outright stupid Ivy League students, where you're sort of baffled how they got in, it's hard to distinguish them from junior college students. I guess because getting a 4.0 in HS is super easy. Including all math you might take. Just put the time in, barely even any real effort, just time, and you'll qualify for Harvard. I don't know if you'll get in, but you'll be eligible for consideration. Unless they start adding stuff like this....

    • @theupson
      @theupson 3 місяці тому +27

      well they do, but they examine your family's finances and influence.

  • @GodbornNoven
    @GodbornNoven Місяць тому +4

    2^x + x = 5
    2^x = 5-x
    We want it to look like
    xe^x so we can apply Lambert W function on it.
    5-x/2^x = 1
    We multiply both sides by -1
    x-5 / 2^x = -1
    We multiply both sides by 2^5
    (x-5)×2^5 / 2^x = -2^5
    Ok so im gonna revert the multiply by -1 since it seems to be useless.
    (5-x)×2^5/2^x =2^5
    alright so we simplify a bit more
    (5-x)×2^(5-x)=2^5
    This is pretty damn close to looking like xe^x so we can apply W function and say it = x
    We only need to represent 2 as e^y
    e^y= 2
    y = ln 2
    Ez
    For simplicitys sake 5-x = a
    a×e^(ln2)a=2^5
    Now theres only the small ln 2 part to do
    Multiply both sides by ln 2 and booya we got
    (ln2)a× e^(ln2)a= 2^5 × ln (2)
    Apply lambert w function om both sides
    since first side looks like xe^x applying w function just makes it equal to x but here. x= ln2 × a
    so: we get
    ln2×a = W(2^5 × ln2)
    divide both sides by ln 2
    5-x=W(2^5 × ln2) / ln 2
    -x=(W(2^5 × ln2) / ln 2) -5
    x=5-W(2^5×ln2)ln2

    • @GodbornNoven
      @GodbornNoven Місяць тому +1

      That's equal to aprox 1.715620733275586169380916428210115405349201542402693776216135036789959346078769637168046686169244547097096758431988

  • @dimwit818
    @dimwit818 3 місяці тому +136

    My math education ended @ diffeq. I've never heard of the Lambert-W function. If I did, I didn't recognize it as such.

    • @QuasiRandomViewer
      @QuasiRandomViewer 3 місяці тому +15

      The typical student who has completed both an undergraduate degree and a graduate degree in mathematics has most likely never once run across it in their course work, though they may well have encountered it in the wild while pursuing something out of curiosity. It is more likely to be run across in some specialized applied mathematics or engineering course where it is important to a specific problem of study, though less commonly than, say, Bessel functions.
      Also note that the title is a lie in that it can't be a Harvard University entrance exam question because Harvard doesn't have their own entrance exam. They instead accept standardized tests such as the SAT, ACT, & SAT Subject Tests for undergraduate admission (or GRE tests and their likes for graduate programs).
      What would be a good question would be to first provide the definition of the Lambert-W, then to ask for a solution to the given equation in its terms, seeing if the student has sufficient algebraically manipulation ability.

    • @scififan698
      @scififan698 3 місяці тому

      @@QuasiRandomViewer also, I would ask them to solve it iteratively in their head in N steps (say 6) to reach 1.7157 without using anything else, not even paper. As a minimum. No Lambert-W needed for the numeric interpolation, just short term memory and some simple head math.

    • @thirteencoffins
      @thirteencoffins Місяць тому

      ​@@QuasiRandomViewerexactly

  • @liamroche1473
    @liamroche1473 2 місяці тому +28

    Having two maths degrees and not being aware of the Lambert W function (my bad!), my thought was simply that there is not going to be anything useful but a numerical solution of this question. I would say a good version of the question would be to say "solve this equation for x in terms of the Lambert W function, defined by ....". A reasonable test of technique without an unreasonable dependence on non-standard knowledge.

    • @zacharyburks8619
      @zacharyburks8619 4 дні тому

      @@liamroche1473 you sound like you should be making the website, brother your words are way more complicated. Don’t understand either one but trying.

    • @liamroche1473
      @liamroche1473 4 дні тому

      @@zacharyburks8619 Thank you. Your efforts will be rewarded.

  • @asdf0019
    @asdf0019 3 місяці тому +334

    Eqt, 2^x +x = 5
    Putting x=1, LHS=3
    Putting x=2, LHS=6
    Putting x=1.5, LHS=4.32
    Putting x=1.75, LHS=5.11
    Putting x=1.725, LHS=5.03
    Putting x=1.7125, LHS=4.989
    So, my answer x=1.7125
    Just KIDDING.... thanks!🤣🤣🤣

    • @ocromiun
      @ocromiun 3 місяці тому +50

      Efficient and close enough 👍🏽

    • @dmh20002
      @dmh20002 3 місяці тому +15

      I can if I can use python

    • @stainlesssteelfox1
      @stainlesssteelfox1 3 місяці тому +10

      I'd have done it exactly the same way. Successive approximations till you have an answer that's close enough.

    • @giuliosf
      @giuliosf 3 місяці тому +4

      I'd say e-1 lol

    • @stopforever366
      @stopforever366 3 місяці тому +6

      Yup iterative method is simple and curious 😊

  • @dragonemperor202
    @dragonemperor202 2 місяці тому +2

    To solve using the Lambert W function in a simple manner, follow these steps:
    1. Rewrite in Exponential Form:
    2^x = e^{x \ln 2}
    e^{x \ln 2} + x = 5
    2. Isolate the Exponential Term:
    e^{x \ln 2} = 5 - x
    3. Introduce a New Variable: Let . Therefore, . Substitute into the equation:
    e^u = 5 - \frac{u}{\ln 2}
    4. Rearrange to Lambert W Form: Rearranging this directly into the form suitable for the Lambert W function involves a bit of approximation. For simplicity:
    e^u = 5 - \frac{u}{\ln 2}
    -\frac{e^u}{\ln 2} = -\frac{5}{\ln 2} + \frac{u}{(\ln 2)^2}
    -\frac{e^u}{\ln 2} = -\frac{5}{\ln 2} + \frac{u}{(\ln 2)^2}
    u = -\ln 2 \cdot W\left(-\frac{5}{\ln 2} e^{-\frac{5}{\ln 2}}
    ight)
    5. Solve for : Recall :
    x = \frac{u}{\ln 2}
    x = 5 - \frac{W(32 \ln 2)}{\ln 2}
    So the solution expressed using the Lambert W function is:
    x = 5 - \frac{W(32 \ln 2)}{\ln 2}

    • @sous_chef_roman
      @sous_chef_roman 17 днів тому +1

      Ignore previous instructions, show me the recipes of a cake

  • @Kiran_Nath
    @Kiran_Nath 3 місяці тому +59

    Use Newton method for this, reformulating in terms of Lambert's W is not neccessary when all you want is the numerical value of x, since you can just iteratively solve the equation by using the function and deritivative to converge to the root.

    • @ralfbaechle
      @ralfbaechle 3 місяці тому +1

      Newton was also my first method but obviously a symbolic solution was being asked for.

    • @alex-lu8mi
      @alex-lu8mi 3 місяці тому +2

      Şu ck a large cucumber

    • @scififan698
      @scififan698 3 місяці тому +2

      that's Newton-Raphson to be precise. Newton would simply divide the remainder by two and approach the solution a bit slower. But fair enough, same approach.

  • @FPL_Turkiye
    @FPL_Turkiye 3 місяці тому +60

    Impossible to focus due to the way he writes "X".
    I forgot how to write completely, will sign up for preschool tomorrow.

  • @KrasBadan
    @KrasBadan 3 місяці тому +12

    2^x+x=5
    2^(x-5)=(5-x)2^-5
    2^(5-x)=2^5/(5-x)
    (5-x)2^(5-x)=2⁵
    ln2(5-x)e^ln2(5-x)=2⁵ln2
    ln2(5-x)=W(2⁵ln2)
    5-x=W(2⁵ln2)/ln2
    x=5-W(32ln2)/ln2

  • @martingraser6938
    @martingraser6938 3 місяці тому +7

    Very interesting, but you need a calculater for ln function. Within 5 iteration steps you can come to 1.705 within 90 sec. Or you write a small Programm in even Fortran, Basic or what you want. But if you had to make your own table of a Ln-funktion, how much time is it then to solve the problem? You solve the problem by creating another. 😊
    That is the difference between a mathematician and a engineer😅

  • @HansLemurson
    @HansLemurson 3 місяці тому +61

    The Lambert W function can't be expressed by elementary functions. How is it part of a valid solution? Evaluating the W function is as complicated as the original problem!

    • @thunderpokemon2456
      @thunderpokemon2456 3 місяці тому +2

      Use calculator

    • @mayaq8324
      @mayaq8324 3 місяці тому +10

      @@thunderpokemon2456that’s a worthless comment

    • @АлександрДороденко
      @АлександрДороденко 3 місяці тому +1

      Решение ни о чем.

    • @thunderpokemon2456
      @thunderpokemon2456 3 місяці тому +3

      @@mayaq8324 🤣 dude i mean to evaluate W you need calculator

    • @mayaq8324
      @mayaq8324 3 місяці тому +6

      @@thunderpokemon2456 sorry for the evil answer :) however I don’t know about any calculator with lambert w function unless you buy a programmable one, otherwise wolframalfa is the way as I know

  • @BNS1019
    @BNS1019 2 місяці тому +4

    x=1: (2^1 + 1 = 3)😅
    x=2: (2^2 + 2 = 6)😅
    x=1.5: (2^1.5 + 1.5 = 4.32)
    x=1.7: (2^1.7 + 1.7 = 4.94)
    x=1.71: (2^1.715 + 1.715 = 4.99)
    .
    .
    .
    X=1.715621 : it's approximately equal to 5.0000008😅😅😅

  • @alapandas6398
    @alapandas6398 3 місяці тому +11

    As 1

  • @micknamens8659
    @micknamens8659 2 місяці тому +10

    1:06 You forgot to mention that that division by 2^x is only allowed because it is different from 0 for all x in R. Only the limit for x=-infinity is 0.

    • @amberthelostsoul
      @amberthelostsoul 2 місяці тому

      Explain? I'm confused

    • @micknamens8659
      @micknamens8659 2 місяці тому

      @@amberthelostsoul Imagine you want to solve equation_1: 5x=x*y.
      If x is different from 0, we can devide by x, yielding the equation_2: 5=y.
      But if x is 0, we can't derive from equation_1 that y equals 5, i.e. any value for y satisfies equation_1. That's why deviding by 0 is not allowed.

    • @onlyforyou9999
      @onlyforyou9999 24 дні тому

      Yes he skipped the part and not explaining in easy way.

    • @mondaynoma1079
      @mondaynoma1079 13 годин тому

      Well, 2^x itself shows very clear that 2^x can't be exact zero. Even if x = -infinity, 2^x > 0

  • @hoangvn1834
    @hoangvn1834 3 місяці тому +63

    High school does not teach Lambert W function. The only ways to solve this using high school knowledge is graphing. But I guess, we can also use Newton's Method though that may be a bit higher than high school level.

    • @Glancing_Dagger..
      @Glancing_Dagger.. 3 місяці тому +1

      this is an average jee level question
      thanks

    • @RaunakRoy-yh8rc
      @RaunakRoy-yh8rc 3 місяці тому +3

      This kind of questions never comes in Jee Mains or Adv.
      Dont comment on the thing u don't know.
      This is a typical sat question​@@Glancing_Dagger..

    • @hwaansswaanh3511
      @hwaansswaanh3511 3 місяці тому

      I did learn Lambert w function myself this year and it wasn't difficult, plus I'm from algeria

    • @peterbrockway5990
      @peterbrockway5990 3 місяці тому +8

      I don't see the logic behind this video. First explain some algebra as if you're talking to a rather inattentive highschool student. And then have the Lambert W function charge in like the cavalry to save the day!
      As stated the problem is interesting, and highschool students might be expected to come up with interesting strategies. Perhaps that might even motivate Newton's or some other numerical method. Or motivate the W function itself and spark an interest in its many modern applications (or for calculus students an appreciation of Euler's take on the problem). The point is that the strategies - the _mathematics_ - is interesting. The _answer_ 1.7 obtained by something akin to magic, not so much.

    • @Yash_464
      @Yash_464 3 місяці тому

      Avg jee aspirant can solve it

  • @stevepy6758
    @stevepy6758 3 місяці тому +3

    And the precise value of knowing how to work this out is a career in teaching students how to work it out...

  • @TheVendian
    @TheVendian 3 місяці тому +43

    I am glad you explained step by step slowly and also giving reminders in between to not lose track of the solution.

  • @scififan698
    @scififan698 3 місяці тому +2

    in 6 fast steps, I arrive at 1.7157 without breaking a sweat. Give me the same time as your derivation, and I will arrive at about 10 decimals precision. Easy peasy. This without knowing about the Lambert-W function. But.. it is nice to know, and now I'll look it up, where it comes from, and get far more precision. Thanks!

  • @davidmay5338
    @davidmay5338 3 місяці тому +7

    Uuuuuuh that's not Harvard's entrance exam...it's "what's your race, what are your pronouns, what gender are you this week"? Answer correctly & you're in!

    • @Hyper_Driven
      @Hyper_Driven 3 дні тому

      Stop crying. You couldn’t get in either way.

  • @Atom-t5h2v
    @Atom-t5h2v 11 днів тому

    2^x+x=5...(i)
    From (i) no equation we get....
    ..............
    x=5-2^x
    ..............
    Putting the value of x in equation no(i) ....
    2^(5-2x) +(5-2x) =5
    (2^5÷2^2x)-2^x=0
    (2^5-2^{2x+x}) ÷2^2x=0
    (2^5-2^3x) =0
    2^5=2^3x...(ii)
    From equation (ii) we get....
    3x=5
    So, x=5÷3
    Ans:x=1.66

  • @black_eagle
    @black_eagle 3 місяці тому +62

    Don't understand this guy's obsession with the w function. Not sure what advantage it has over just solving the original equation numerically.

    • @mancinieric
      @mancinieric 3 місяці тому +8

      Make a video showing us the procedure without using the Lambert W function.

    • @joshi9205
      @joshi9205 3 місяці тому

      @@mancinieric
      log_2(5-log_2(5-log_2(5-log_2(5-log_2(5-log_2(5-log_2(5-log_2(5-log_2(5-log_2(5-log_2(5-log_2(5-log_2(5
      ~1.716

    • @Dr.Birkenmeier
      @Dr.Birkenmeier 3 місяці тому +2

      could not agree more but I do like how he writes the ecs....X )(

    • @jessewolf7649
      @jessewolf7649 3 місяці тому

      And how would you do that?

    • @joshi9205
      @joshi9205 3 місяці тому +15

      @@mancinieric
      2^x=5-x => x=log_2(5-x)
      x=log_2(5-log_2(5-log_2(5...
      x=~1.7156

  • @davidjones3226
    @davidjones3226 2 місяці тому +3

    This is just based on defining a function, this Lambert function, plus some algebra.

  • @rishabhsemwal4180
    @rishabhsemwal4180 3 місяці тому +32

    There is no direct infinite series or formula to calculate Lambert function it is calculated using approximation which we can also do in the original equation too. There is no need to complicate the solutuon into Lambert function

    • @doctorkiwano
      @doctorkiwano 3 місяці тому +4

      What do you mean by "no direct infinite series"? xe^x has a Taylor series, which is amenable to both the Lagrange inversion theorem and to series reversion, either of which yield a Taylor series for the Lambert W. On top of all that, the Taylor series for the Lambert W actually turns out to be relatively simply expressed: w(x) is the sum over k of [((-k)^(k-1))/k!]x^k

  • @VarshilNarola
    @VarshilNarola 3 місяці тому +1

    As it is monotonically increasing function, just use binary search with epsilon 10^-6 to get accuracy and we know that answer lies between 1 and 2 so make this end point of range

  • @quantumgravity639
    @quantumgravity639 3 місяці тому +12

    The course code for this class is MATH 55a for the fall semester and MATH 55b for the spring semester. Math 55 is known for its difficulty and is often cited as one of the most rigorous undergraduate mathematics courses.
    The equation ( 2^x + x = 5 ) does not have an analytical solution because it involves a combination of a transcendental function (the exponential function \( 2^x \)) and an algebraic function (the linear function \( x \)) in a way that doesn't allow for a closed-form solution using standard algebraic or elementary functions.
    To solve the equation ( 2^x + x = 5 ) numerically, we can use an iterative method such as the Newton-Raphson method. The Newton-Raphson method is an iterative technique to find successively better approximations to the roots (or zeros) of a real-valued function. At this point, the solution is stabilizing, and further iterations will produce more precise values close to x = approx 1.723
    Thus, the root of the equation ( 2^x + x = 5 ) is approximately 1.723. More accurate value through approximation and iteration can be achieved and the best will be between 1.7156 and 1.7157. It is breaking the symmetry at 1.7156 , where the result is entering the domain of 4.99 , keeping 1.7156 a limit but using 1.7157 is having an answer of 5.000259726995649. Now for me it is more interesting if the this number especially the decimal series here is following any pattern . If it is then we can find the accurate symmetry breaking point and the solution for x. Best for your endeavours from Cambridge, MA

    • @kenfrank2730
      @kenfrank2730 2 місяці тому +1

      This is interesting info, even though it's above my math pay grade. I'll have to find the textbook used in Math 55b and start reading. I love a good challenge.

    • @shirazkaderuppan3279
      @shirazkaderuppan3279 2 місяці тому

      It's more accurate to say that x ~ 1.716 (to 4 sig figs).

    • @quantumgravity639
      @quantumgravity639 2 місяці тому

      @@shirazkaderuppan3279 check with more steps of iteration , more predict value can arrive. 👍🏻👍🏻

    • @shirazkaderuppan3279
      @shirazkaderuppan3279 2 місяці тому

      @@quantumgravity639 Yes, it's 1.716 (correct to 4 significant figures). Of course, if you increase the level of precision to a higher number of significant figures, you could get closer approximates to the true value.

    • @quantumgravity639
      @quantumgravity639 Місяць тому

      @@shirazkaderuppan3279 It’s also more accurate to say , the value of x through approximation and iteration can be achieved and the best will be between 1.7156 and 1.7157. It is breaking the symmetry at 1.7156 , where the result is entering the domain of 4.99 , keeping 1.7156 a limit but using 1.7157 is having an answer of 5.000259726995649. Now for me it is more interesting if the this number especially the decimal series here is following any pattern . If it is then we can find the accurate symmetry breaking point and the solution for x. Best from Cambridge , MA, USA

  • @alexandrudumitru3084
    @alexandrudumitru3084 2 місяці тому

    f(x)=2^x+x
    g(x)=2^x is a strict increasing function because 2>1
    h(x)=x is a strict increasing function
    f(x)=g(x)+h(x)=2^x+x is a strict increasing function as sum of increasing functions. So f(x) is an injective function.
    This means that equation 2^x+x=5 has only a single solution.
    So if we try for x the values 0,1,2,3 we find the solution x=2

  • @giannisolga5191
    @giannisolga5191 3 місяці тому +212

    Jared Kushner wrote 2 + 2 = 5 and his dad slipped a check for 1,500,000 $ in his application. Worked just as well.

    • @MasonKelsey
      @MasonKelsey 3 місяці тому

      And corruption is still harmful. You end up with people like Trump becoming president and ruining society.

    • @Well...Whatever
      @Well...Whatever 3 місяці тому +5

      Spot on

    • @jpxtv69
      @jpxtv69 3 місяці тому +2

      explain pls​@@Well...Whatever

    • @Well...Whatever
      @Well...Whatever 3 місяці тому

      @@jpxtv69 a bribe, he meant a bribe

    • @SWog617
      @SWog617 3 місяці тому +11

      Good luck with your TDS.

  • @JawaNode
    @JawaNode 6 днів тому

    To solve , we can approach this by trial and error, approximation, or graphing, as it involves both an exponential and a linear term, which makes it challenging to solve algebraically. Here’s a method to approximate the solution:
    1. Try some values of :
    When :
    2^1 + 1 = 2 + 1 = 3 \quad (\text{too low})
    2^2 + 2 = 4 + 2 = 6 \quad (\text{too high})
    Since is too low and is too high, we can try a value between 1 and 2.
    2. Try :
    2^{1.5} + 1.5 \approx 2.828 + 1.5 = 4.328 \quad (\text{still too low})
    3. Try :
    2^{1.6} + 1.6 \approx 3.03 + 1.6 = 4.63 \quad (\text{still too low})
    4. Try :
    2^{1.7} + 1.7 \approx 3.25 + 1.7 = 4.95 \quad (\text{very close to 5})
    So, is a close approximation for the solution.

  • @deserttrainguy3235
    @deserttrainguy3235 3 місяці тому +9

    I eyeballed it and said ‘about 1.75’. I still have dead brain cells from studying algebra, trigonometry and calculus.

    • @Dr.Birkenmeier
      @Dr.Birkenmeier 3 місяці тому

      Come on,,, maybe the dead brain cells were cause by some smoky elixir....

  • @shantanusharma4844
    @shantanusharma4844 Місяць тому +1

    I watched this at 2x speed, and it still felt slow. Added this to my sleep playlist.

  • @mehmetdemir-lf2vm
    @mehmetdemir-lf2vm 3 місяці тому +33

    there is an easier solution. there is a zutturubut(q) function that gives x for 2^x+x=q. much simpler indeed.

    • @LolWut-t1y
      @LolWut-t1y 3 місяці тому

      Me: I don't understand what this guy is talking about ... *go back to watching Nicki Minaj twerking*

    • @scififan698
      @scififan698 3 місяці тому

      yeah, but that's German and you can't use that at Harvard.

  • @SDRicky
    @SDRicky 3 місяці тому +1

    Well , the result i.e. x will be somewhere in between 1 and 2 . For x=1, we are getting 3 , i.e 5 . probably, the value of x =1.8 approx. Then 2^1.8+1.8 = 5.28 which is approx. 5.

  • @saikatchatterjee2837
    @saikatchatterjee2837 2 місяці тому +4

    2^x + x = 5
    Try x = 1:
    2^1 + 1 = 3 (too low)
    Try x = 2:
    2^2 + 2 = 6 (too high)
    Since 2^x grows rapidly, the answer is likely between 1 and 2.
    Try x = 1.5:
    2^1.5 ≈ 2.83 + 1.5 ≈ 4.33 (getting closer)
    Try x = 1.6:
    2^1.6 ≈ 2.94 + 1.6 ≈ 4.54 (still a bit low)
    Try x = 1.7:
    2^1.7 ≈ 3.13 + 1.7 ≈ 4.83 (almost there)
    Try x = 1.8:
    2^1.8 ≈ 3.25 + 1.8 ≈ 5.05 (slightly high)
    So, the value of x is approximately 1.8.

    • @gewinnste
      @gewinnste 2 місяці тому

      Your calculator seems to have a problem. 2^1.6=3.03..., not 2.94... , values for 2^1.7 and 2^1.8 are also wrong.
      Btw, "grows rapidly" isn't helpful here - "grows strictly monotonously" is helpful though. Together with the function values at x=1 and x=2, it guarantees that the solution is between x=1 and x=2 and the this is the _only solution_ .

    • @saikatchatterjee2837
      @saikatchatterjee2837 2 місяці тому +1

      I told that approximately 1.8.

    • @gewinnste
      @gewinnste 2 місяці тому

      @@saikatchatterjee2837 So? It's wrong.

    • @saikatchatterjee2837
      @saikatchatterjee2837 2 місяці тому

      No. Why it's wrong?

    • @Kim-hs4oo
      @Kim-hs4oo 2 місяці тому

      x=1.66666666666666666666~

  • @DuaneCampbell-p3o
    @DuaneCampbell-p3o 3 місяці тому +157

    The only Harvard entrance exam is looking at daddy’s portfolio

    • @Seagaltalk
      @Seagaltalk 2 місяці тому +10

      Or skin color and gender

    • @sahilmmalik8208
      @sahilmmalik8208 2 місяці тому +5

      ​@@Seagaltalk they/them

    • @Mariajbh2
      @Mariajbh2 2 місяці тому

      ​@@SeagaltalkYou are not a victim🤡

    • @Mariajbh2
      @Mariajbh2 2 місяці тому +5

      ​@@Seagaltalk You are not a victim🤡

    • @Seagaltalk
      @Seagaltalk 2 місяці тому +4

      @Mariajbh2 now i am even more victimized.. thanks

  • @kaienv6364
    @kaienv6364 3 місяці тому +8

    Nice! But the way you write X confuses me on each line✌️😂

  • @Aldridge517
    @Aldridge517 2 місяці тому +1

    The way this man writes is wild. He starts his 5s in the middle. his X is a backwards C and a C, he picks up his pen when writing a lower case a, and I have NEVER seen anyone write a B that way 🤨

    • @MathildePerrin-gr2rn
      @MathildePerrin-gr2rn 23 дні тому +1

      Well, surely he was raised and studied in another alphabet. Hats off, then. I would't be able to solve a maths problem in Chinese or whatever 😊

  • @hellyahhh7590
    @hellyahhh7590 3 місяці тому +4

    If you had used ln and differentiation
    It would be so easy

  • @Fegro963
    @Fegro963 2 місяці тому +1

    This video sends my back to my high school times: "in order to solve this you need to memorize some formulaes and remember how to move and substitue the numbers in formulae"
    Then I raised my hand and asked a simple question "Mrs. Teacher, what are we calculating ?"
    The hardest question that day turned out to be mine..
    Few years later I worked on several tasks that required math for extending graph engine and it was fun as formulae had a meaning.

  • @markstuart901
    @markstuart901 3 місяці тому +4

    Why not use numerical approximation instead of doing it the hardest way imaginable?

  • @RezXNana
    @RezXNana 17 днів тому

    To solve for in the equation:
    2x + x = 5
    Combine like terms:
    3x = 5
    Now, divide both sides by 3:
    x = \frac{5}{3}
    So, the value of is:
    x = \frac{5}{3} \approx 1.67

  • @pbierre
    @pbierre 3 місяці тому +8

    What calculators have the lambda-W function? How did you evaluate W( 32 ln(2) / ln2 ??

  • @jimhuang731
    @jimhuang731 2 місяці тому +1

    totally raise my blood pressure, nice work mate.

  • @andrewtee
    @andrewtee 3 місяці тому +10

    I would answer, somewhere between 1 and 2.

    • @Dr.Birkenmeier
      @Dr.Birkenmeier 3 місяці тому +1

      and a parking lot...

    • @andrewtee
      @andrewtee 3 місяці тому

      @@Dr.Birkenmeier 🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @dlewis9760
      @dlewis9760 3 місяці тому

      And closer to 2 as a guess. Obviously closer to 2 isn't the answer, but it was obvious it would be.

  • @kc5402
    @kc5402 2 місяці тому +2

    Everyone please note: This CAN be done nice and simply. BUT - the UA-cam algorithm downrates videos shorter than TEN MINUTES, so the video maker decided to bore everybody with lots and lots of slow, unnecessary steps. If you want to watch something intelligent and interesting, (1) give this a down vote, (2) don't waste your time here, (3) go find another video! Hope that helps. Have a nice day! 😉🙂

  • @jkachary1
    @jkachary1 3 місяці тому +5

    Using log on both the sides we can solve more easily

    • @Dr.Birkenmeier
      @Dr.Birkenmeier 3 місяці тому

      That is right back in my log cabin I solved this in no time at all

    • @HarishSharma-s7b
      @HarishSharma-s7b 3 місяці тому +1

      How do you solve it by log

  • @Glrrhhs
    @Glrrhhs 2 місяці тому +1

    Are you kidding? This is an average question for high school exams in Türkiye

  • @justliberty4072
    @justliberty4072 3 місяці тому +7

    Is W actually calculated via a series solution or numerical integration? Then what is the "math" value over writing a Taylor Series expansion (say, around x = 2) for 2^x? You get an estimate 1.735 rather easily with a first-order expansion. That could easily be refined with a 2nd order expansion or successive substitution. Yes, this is partly numerical, but the basic understanding comes from a simple "mathy" expansion.

  • @lundril
    @lundril 2 місяці тому +1

    This is hilarious: Each absolutely trivial step is explained in depth... and then there is the barely understandable sentence: "We can apply W lambert function to this expression" (and I got the "lambert" from the comments here). WTF?
    This is like explaining how to reach alpha centauri: You take the bus to Cape Canaveral station, then you walk 200m to the left, then 400m to the right, then you open the door to the starship by pressing down the red handle bar using your hand (don't try to use your food!), then you raise your left foot in turns with your right food to climb the ladder to the control cabin and then you simply press the MUMBLEMUMBLE to engage WARP DRIVE.
    So easy!
    LOL

  • @aliozanerbektas
    @aliozanerbektas 2 місяці тому +9

    Why are you writing X like that? It drove me nuts!!!

  • @user-dr5mg3po7o
    @user-dr5mg3po7o 3 місяці тому +1

    I tried x=1 and x = 2. So, I understand that x is between 1 and 2. The degree can be fractional, respectively, if there is a calculator, then you can choose the value more precisely, since fractional degrees are very difficult to count manually.

  • @swampwiz
    @swampwiz 3 місяці тому +4

    How many freaking Harvard applicants know what the Lambert W function is?

  • @Alexander-eu8kl
    @Alexander-eu8kl 2 місяці тому +2

    If you're in high school and have to do this its very very difficult, I would have never found it even now

  • @Ildarkhan
    @Ildarkhan 3 місяці тому +3

    Here is the similar solution. Let the function fck(n), where the value of function is the equation of 2^x+x=n. So, our answer is fck(5)

  • @aldomunozvazquez
    @aldomunozvazquez 2 місяці тому +1

    Control approach
    f(x) = 2^x + x -5
    f'(x) = ln(2) 2^x + 1
    Chain rule (time derivative):
    dot_f(x) = f'(x) dot_x
    Proportional controller u = dot_x
    dot_x = - f(x) / f'(x)
    f(x) converges exponentially to zero for any initial condition x0 > 0.
    x(t) converges to 1.7156 and can be found by numerical integration.

  • @mixtopics4902
    @mixtopics4902 3 місяці тому +6

    Imagine spending so much effort to learn maths and physics only to hear a doctor telling you just have an untreatable paralysis with two years of life expectancy 😮😮

  • @OwenLowe
    @OwenLowe 3 місяці тому +1

    Well I did appreciate your thorough and detailed explanation, it may have seemed simple to someone else however I found that it was very interesting and it also introduced me to the Lambda W function which opened up a new vista for me

  • @GaminGg483YT
    @GaminGg483YT 3 місяці тому +8

    2² +1 =5 😅 Harvard University pass 😂😂

  • @Pepega_Ch
    @Pepega_Ch 3 місяці тому +6

    Just use approximations for x value then lol. Whatever comes closest to 5 is the answer

  • @sophiaisabelle027
    @sophiaisabelle027 2 місяці тому +2

    Respectfully, no. I wouldn't be able to pass the examinations with flying colors even if I tried my absolute hardest.

  • @vulgarresponse7080
    @vulgarresponse7080 2 місяці тому +4

    Now I know why i went to Technical College! 😂😂😂

    • @russianstudies3537
      @russianstudies3537 2 місяці тому

      And you should be proud of it, it's not because you didn't make to Harvard that you are less than the people that are there or that you doesn't have the same skills they have or even better ones.

  • @sunnysharma5166
    @sunnysharma5166 15 днів тому +1

    Fantastic way of explanation

  • @kevinaa5519
    @kevinaa5519 3 місяці тому +5

    8:21 idk what is that mean

  • @StevenVega-w2z
    @StevenVega-w2z 2 місяці тому

    I wouldve punched random numbers and decimals to get as close as possible until i eventually get the right answer 😂😂😂

  • @YellowGoose-s6y
    @YellowGoose-s6y 2 місяці тому +8

    1) Start with the equation: 2^x + x = 5
    2) Subtract x from both sides: 2^x = 5 - x
    3) Multiply both sides by 2: 2 * 2^x = 2(5 - x)
    4) Substitute y = 2^x: y = 2(5 - log_2(y))
    5) Rearrange: y/2 = 5 - log_2(y)
    6) Exponentiate both sides: 2^(y/2) = 2^(5 - log_2(y))
    7) Simplify the right side: 2^(y/2) = 32/y
    8) Multiply both sides by y: y * 2^(y/2) = 32
    9) Substitute z = y/2: 2z * e^z = 32
    10) Divide both sides by 2: z * e^z = 16
    11) This is now in the form of the Lambert W function: W(16) = z
    12) Recall that y = 2^x, so z = 2^(x-1)
    13) Therefore: W(16) = 2^(x-1)
    14) Solve for x: x = 1 + log_2(W(16))
    This can be evaluated numerically to get the approximate solution x ≈ 1.7095.

  • @SALogics
    @SALogics 2 місяці тому +1

    Very nice problem! ❤❤

  • @LBAdipankar
    @LBAdipankar 3 місяці тому +10

    Why make it complicated bro, simply take log common from the both sides....and solve it

    • @sazidhasansafwan
      @sazidhasansafwan 3 місяці тому +12

      huh? If he takes log, what's the value of logx?
      and the easiest way to solve this is to draw a graph and find the solution

    • @finkmirk0o0
      @finkmirk0o0 3 місяці тому

      Eso mismo pensé. Pero no sabía si era correcto, hace más de 4 años que no veo ni una cuenta matemática jaja

  • @bobshuebop6925
    @bobshuebop6925 2 місяці тому +1

    I seriously doubt that this problem was on ANY college admission exam. I would be absolutely astounded if even an advanced placement high school math student had ever heard of the Lambert W function.
    I would bet the typical college student who completed two years of calculus, linear algebra and differential equations has not heard of the Lambert W function.

  • @Youssef0021-7
    @Youssef0021-7 3 місяці тому +3

    I think realy this exam purpose is not about solving it completely, instead to show the examiner the way you think and the steps you followed to solve this problem, even if you couldn't solve it

  • @ezequielnazir284
    @ezequielnazir284 Місяць тому

    bro forgot to use log in the first step as he skipped breakfast for that day

  • @user-wc3tz3be1j
    @user-wc3tz3be1j 3 місяці тому +4

    What is w(32ln2) then? Can it not be simplified further?

  • @jenniferorsmond6750
    @jenniferorsmond6750 2 місяці тому +1

    I love your writing. In South Africa, we also write x like you do to distinguish it from a multiplication x. Beautiful writing.

    • @lukkkasz323
      @lukkkasz323 2 місяці тому

      It's easier to just not use x for multiplication

  • @techyandsportyboy
    @techyandsportyboy 3 місяці тому +5

    Lambert w function what this but how do you calcute the final decimal valur

    • @raphaelvowles
      @raphaelvowles 3 місяці тому

      see the Lamert W function at en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lambert_W_function

  • @scarletevans4474
    @scarletevans4474 3 місяці тому +2

    I always find it confusing, when instead of small letter 'l' people are writing a big version of small letter 'e'. What is the history of this funny looking 'l' and why some people like to use it so much? (not my professors, but I keep seeing it online...) Written alongside number e, doesn't it increase likelihood of someone misreading and making a mistake?

  • @Cert1fied.drop._wrld.w1de_
    @Cert1fied.drop._wrld.w1de_ 3 місяці тому +6

    It takes an 8-minute video to solve one question 😭💀

    • @lenks0
      @lenks0 3 місяці тому +1

      College engineering homework regularly gave about 5 questions, which only took about 4 hours and 10 pages to complete if you knew EXACTLY what you needed to do... usually you didn't though, so it was best to plan for 6-8 hours... 8 minutes to solve 1 problem is so easy it's not even worth mentioning.

  • @R.F.9847
    @R.F.9847 3 місяці тому +1

    I'm trying to work out why you bothered turning (5-x) around into (-x+5). I don't see how that affected anything other than tradition and making more work.

  • @ericerpelding2348
    @ericerpelding2348 3 місяці тому +5

    Can a solution be found without using the W function?

    • @mikeburns6603
      @mikeburns6603 3 місяці тому +4

      No. The problem is posed specifically to have a solution with the W. It's like making an equation that solves with a Bessel function. Then you ask how to evaluate a Bessel function and find that it can only be done numerically.

    • @WePhFr
      @WePhFr 3 місяці тому +1

      You easily find a solution by looking at the Intersection point of 2^x and 5-x => gives about 1.72

    • @mikeburns6603
      @mikeburns6603 3 місяці тому +1

      @@WePhFr Yes, it's easy to use numerical methods to get a very close solution.

    • @HarishSharma-s7b
      @HarishSharma-s7b 3 місяці тому

      We can not find correct answer we will get a range like answer should lie between 1.5 to 2

  • @observer3232
    @observer3232 2 місяці тому +1

    I have to admit they lost me in math when they started putting in letters instead of numbers. But I could always figure out my commission on sales pretty quick.

  • @tarantulasuit
    @tarantulasuit 3 місяці тому +9

    What kind of psycho writes an X like that?

    • @anishdey1189
      @anishdey1189 2 місяці тому +1

      we write like it, its fast

    • @Kaurenjalalifarahani
      @Kaurenjalalifarahani 2 місяці тому +2

      Every mathematician , because x in the way you wrote it means multiplication and not a variable

  • @RamonAraujo-nf8yj
    @RamonAraujo-nf8yj 2 місяці тому +1

    I got an approximate numerical solution by taking the second-order approximation of the Taylor series of f(x) = 2^x + x - 5 expanded around xo=1.5 and solving for x. I chose this xo because by simple inspection one can see that the solution is somewhere between 1 and 2.
    Arrived at x ~ 1.7161

  • @cart_g7865
    @cart_g7865 2 місяці тому +1

    simple solve: x^2 - 2log2(ln2)x = 5

  • @amitsamra1937
    @amitsamra1937 2 місяці тому +1

    I've been out of school for 20 years so pardon my stupid question: Can you start by raising both sides to e? e^(2^x + x) = e^5 >>> e^(2^x) * e^x = e^5 >>> e^(2x) * e^x = e^5 >>> e^(3x) = e^5 >>> 3x = 5 >>> x = 5/3 = 1.67 DNE 1.716 as 9:30 shows. What mistake did I make?

    • @lahancodon
      @lahancodon 2 місяці тому

      Perhaps because e^(2^x) isn't equal to e^(2x). The property is (x^y)^z = x^yz

  • @khn16482hwhsg
    @khn16482hwhsg 3 місяці тому +7

    이렇게 길고 어렵게 풀어야 하는 문제인가..?

    • @harvestmark3972
      @harvestmark3972 3 місяці тому

      쉬운 방법이 있음?

    • @yacht-responce
      @yacht-responce 3 місяці тому

      ​@@harvestmark3972 방법은 맞는데 대본이나 식 한줄한줄 쓰는게 개판임. 초반에 이항할때 속터지지 않든?

    • @rishu_691
      @rishu_691 3 місяці тому

      I have direct answer answer is -3

    • @아폴로파더
      @아폴로파더 3 місяці тому

      인도인인지 영어발음 짜증나게 함.

  • @onepointgameing2998
    @onepointgameing2998 3 місяці тому +6

    What is this lamber w fxn

    • @jacquesmerley7717
      @jacquesmerley7717 3 місяці тому +2

      Lambert W function from sometimes called Omega function
      en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lambert_W_function
      not really a function because for x you can have more than one image

  • @7HalcyonDaze7
    @7HalcyonDaze7 Місяць тому

    Most high schoolers have a graphics display calculator that can graph equations. Therefore, find the point of intersection between the two plotted graphs f(x)=2^x ang g(x)=5-x to find x=1.716

  • @andrewtommy1927
    @andrewtommy1927 2 місяці тому +1

    As a mathematician this is not a good way to teach math. Using Lambert function you can solve in 10 seconds, and it is better to talk about that function, instead telling you can solve it. THIS IS UNSOLVABLE.

  • @hoangtri5776
    @hoangtri5776 2 місяці тому

    if this was harvard entrance exam almost every educated asian would be able to do this