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  • @kpdywo848
    @kpdywo848 Місяць тому +14

    Easy: x^3=27 in complex form : 27 exp[2k*i Pi[. So, 3 roots are: 3 exp[2k*i Pi/3]: for k=0 Root = 3, for k=1 root = -3/2+i Sqrt(3)/2, for k=2 root =-3/2-i Sqrt(3)/2

  • @donaldasayers
    @donaldasayers Місяць тому +20

    Olympiad problem? I think not, O-level further maths for me. Roots of a number are always distributed equally around a circle in the Argand plane.

  • @ClaudioBrogliato
    @ClaudioBrogliato Місяць тому +13

    If I remember well putting those solutions on a complex plane should result in the vertex of an equilateral triangle.

  • @Grim_Reaper_from_Hell
    @Grim_Reaper_from_Hell Місяць тому +4

    Once you get 3 the other 2 solutions are simply 3*e^(±2πi/3). (e^(2π/3))³=e^(2π)

  • @joeldurugbo3147
    @joeldurugbo3147 Місяць тому +6

    So simply multiply the real root by the primitve cube roots of unity to get the two complex roots

  • @tassiedevil2200
    @tassiedevil2200 Місяць тому +2

    This is one case where the aficionados of the polar approach could quickly get to the same answer since most would know Cos[2 pi/3] = -1/2, Sin[2 pi/3] Sqrt[3]/2 etc.

  • @DedMatveev
    @DedMatveev Місяць тому +25

    The author, as usual, "forgot" to say when posing the problem in which SET he wants to search for x: among real or complex values. Both the solution method and the answer depend on this.

    • @joso5554
      @joso5554 Місяць тому +6

      Thanks for pointing this. These YT videos almost never bother to mention this essential input.

    • @stvp68
      @stvp68 Місяць тому +7

      “Find all roots” implies complex roots, doesn’t it?

    • @bendunselman
      @bendunselman Місяць тому +5

      ​​@@stvp68No, not necessarily. There may well be solutions in other algebras over other rings/fields/domains. For instance in a Clifford algebra over the quaternions, octonions, split complex numbers, extended complex numbers, dual numbers or a Z[27] field. (But I did not think of solving any of those) The maths world has a lot more space to navigate....

    • @stvp68
      @stvp68 Місяць тому +2

      @@bendunselman ah, okay, thanks!

    • @kitkann7865
      @kitkann7865 22 дні тому

      @@joso5554លៀ😢៩ផ៥ហឱអ:យ🎉លេីៀ+​ឱ🎉ន🎉ៀល៤ឬៀនរ៥ល😊្

  • @MadScientyst
    @MadScientyst Місяць тому +1

    To the uninitiated, once the word ALL roots are mentioned in a Math problem, the alarm bell sould sound off that the soultion set MUST involve the Complex Domain, eg. 1 can also be represented as 1+0i & even 0 as 0+0i, so a typical algebraic equation can have both Real & Complex solutions....🤔

  • @sagarrajak3826
    @sagarrajak3826 16 днів тому +1

    Yes one root is 3 and the other two are complex i.e complex conjugate

  • @gregoryian108
    @gregoryian108 8 днів тому

    wow!

  • @mohamad-hu9vv
    @mohamad-hu9vv 8 днів тому

    Great!

  • @ShivamSharma20480
    @ShivamSharma20480 20 днів тому

    It's simple look X^3=27 find the value of x=? 1step x^3=27, 2step x=rootunder27, 3step x=3 because 3 is the cube number of 27

  • @1234larry1
    @1234larry1 Місяць тому +1

    Once you get the difference of squares, difference of cubes and sum of cubes down, its not that hard.

  • @user-mg8lg4sw4j
    @user-mg8lg4sw4j 10 днів тому +1

    Is there anyone from INDIA❤

  • @parthasarathidas2360
    @parthasarathidas2360 11 днів тому

    Using cube roots of unity concept . its in iit jee syllabus

  • @mariapiazza-od8ib
    @mariapiazza-od8ib 23 дні тому +1

    EINSTEIN in the thumbnail ? 😢😢 Apmk he's NOT a mathematician, nor was he a CHAMP in maths 😮😮 PLEASE check it out.. and let us know 😊😊

  • @minewithsayo4220
    @minewithsayo4220 Місяць тому +2

    Quite interesting!

  • @LloydCash-he1qv
    @LloydCash-he1qv 16 днів тому

    x^3 = 27
    x^3 = 3^3.e^(i.2nπ)
    x = 3.e^(i.2nπ/3)
    x = 3 or x = -3/2 + i.3√3/2 or x = -3/2 - i.3√3/2

    • @LloydCash-he1qv
      @LloydCash-he1qv 16 днів тому

      The complex solution is best arrived at using Euler's formula. The author's algebraic method is long and tedious as well as essentially unnecessary!

    • @abneryokum
      @abneryokum 5 днів тому

      @@LloydCash-he1qv This guy is a Bozo. All his solutions are long and tedious.

  • @RealQinnMalloryu4
    @RealQinnMalloryu4 Місяць тому +1

    (x ➖ 3ix+3i )

  • @user-dq3uh6ee5w
    @user-dq3uh6ee5w Місяць тому +1

    3, -1,5+_1,5iV3.

  • @mistermouse364
    @mistermouse364 3 дні тому

    :/ x³=27
    x=3√27=>3

  • @vaichu44u
    @vaichu44u 19 днів тому

    I just did the x^3=1 version of this today 😂😂

  • @RafaAssyifa
    @RafaAssyifa 15 днів тому

    X=3

  • @Dr.ghofli
    @Dr.ghofli 4 дні тому

    ۳×۳×۳=۲۷
    I feel like Nikolas tesla 😊

  • @halcon2134
    @halcon2134 17 днів тому

    Try a limit but that has no solution

  • @Peterthepainter66
    @Peterthepainter66 16 днів тому

    3x3x3=27 that's it.

  • @rewwilh6435
    @rewwilh6435 18 днів тому

    -3i

  • @user-ec5ip3vp2r
    @user-ec5ip3vp2r Місяць тому

    3

  • @azhanahmedali9851
    @azhanahmedali9851 Місяць тому +1

    You forgot that there exist somethings like log .

    • @bjornfeuerbacher5514
      @bjornfeuerbacher5514 Місяць тому

      Why should one use log for this equations???

    • @azhanahmedali9851
      @azhanahmedali9851 Місяць тому

      @@bjornfeuerbacher5514 it makes it much easier than ever .

    • @bjornfeuerbacher5514
      @bjornfeuerbacher5514 Місяць тому

      @@azhanahmedali9851 ??? Sorry, I don't see it. Please explain to me how one solves this equation using log.

    • @azhanahmedali9851
      @azhanahmedali9851 Місяць тому +1

      @@bjornfeuerbacher5514 To convert the equation x³ = 27 into logarithmic form, we can use the property of logarithms that states:
      logₐ(b) = c ⇔ a^c = b
      In this case, we can rewrite the equation as:
      x³ = 27
      logₓ(27) = 3
      Or, alternatively:
      3 logₓ(x) = log₇(27)
      Since 27 is 3³, we can also write:
      3 logₓ(x) = 3 log₇(3)
      logₓ(x) = log₇(3)
      Note that the base of the logarithm can be any positive real number, but in this case, I've used base 7 (since 27 = 3³) and base x (to maintain the original variable).

    • @bjornfeuerbacher5514
      @bjornfeuerbacher5514 Місяць тому

      @@azhanahmedali9851 "logₓ(27) = 3"
      This does not help for solving the equation.
      "3 logₓ(x) = log₇(27)"
      ??? Where did you get that from? That's simply not true!
      "Since 27 is 3³
      Err, as soon as you recognize that, you have found the (real) solution of the equation x³ = 27. So you just demonstrated yourself that log does not help in any way for solving this equation - you only have to see that 3³ = 27, and you are done!
      "but in this case, I've used base 7 (since 27 = 3³)"
      ????? There is no reason at all for using base 7 here! Did you perhaps mean base 27?

  • @tombufford136
    @tombufford136 Місяць тому +1

    The complex roots seem unmeaningful.

    • @bjornfeuerbacher5514
      @bjornfeuerbacher5514 Місяць тому

      Why?

    • @tombufford136
      @tombufford136 Місяць тому

      @@bjornfeuerbacher5514 X^3 is not a circular or repeating function, it tends to infinity. There is one intersection of x^3 and 27 when x = 3. the cube of a negative number is negative and 27 is positive.

    • @bjornfeuerbacher5514
      @bjornfeuerbacher5514 Місяць тому

      @@tombufford136 Yes so all what you have written. But so what??? What does all of that have to do with your assertion that the complex roots are "unmeaningful"?

  • @antonygattini3073
    @antonygattini3073 16 днів тому

    😄😄🤣🤣🤣🤣😂😂

  • @bmrw
    @bmrw 22 дні тому +1

    9(3)=27 so its Simple 9+9+9=27

  • @markphc99
    @markphc99 20 днів тому

    Be careful of what? This is a straightforward problem , not really higher maths.

  • @wMexso
    @wMexso Місяць тому +2

    you forgot about -3

  • @zaphodbeeblebrox-fz5fh
    @zaphodbeeblebrox-fz5fh 22 дні тому

    Not an olympiad question at all. And an horrible error in line 2 on the board, because (inside the complex numbers, which are needed anyway), x = 3 is _not_ the only solution of the equation. Do not present it like this

  • @user-eq2om6no5l
    @user-eq2om6no5l 21 день тому

    Just 3

  • @richardrowe1538
    @richardrowe1538 22 дні тому

    3