Well handled. Tell them as little as possible, because they are looking for you to slip up so they can charge you with any petty thing they can get away with. They are embarrassing.
"I'm not here for a discussion, just do your job." Love it, really well said. It's interesting how they want to get into a conversation with you, by asking a loaded question. You stopped them dead by responding with "just do your job." I think they realized right there and then, that you were not going to be the compliant, obedient "good" citizen. I enjoyed the way you handled these police and will subscribe. "Beans on Toast," is also a great name.
The reason that they engage in all this largely irrelevant blather and moronic repetition, if given the chance, is that they are simply hoping that by making you talk you will say something they can pretend is a self-contradiction, since this is something they can then use to pretend that further questioning or other action is justified. The more you talk, the more chance you give them.
The big problem, in USA and even more in UK, is that the police have the power to incriminate and arrest and officially open a investigation . In italy and other country in continental Western Europe, the police is totally dependent and at the orders of magistrate. The prosecutor is the same order of judges, in totally a magistrate, totally spared and independent from government and ministers. The police is dependent from government only in public security activity. But in judiciary activity and investigation pass to depend to magistrates. Only the magistrate can open and direct the investigation. Only the magistrate can incriminate and arrest a suspect. Police can arrest in exceptionaly cases only if directly present in the act of a committed or attempted non-culpable crime for which the law establishes the penalty of life imprisonment or imprisonment of no less than five years at least and a maximum of twenty years Only for strictly necessary time to present the person to magistrate and in any case no more of 24 hours. Never can arrest if is not present in the act. Fot any suspect or crimes with penalty less than 3 years in the minimum and less than 5 years in the maximum, the arrest of the police is totally forbidden. The constitution say in art n.13 Personal freedom is inviolable. No form of detention, inspection or personal search is permitted, nor any other restriction of personal freedom, except by reasoned act of the judicial authority and only in the cases and methods provided for by law. its means that In italy, the incrimination, investigation and detention and any restriction of freedom is totally in the hands of the magistrates and never of the government and executive power apparatus.
May we politely suggest the following de-escalation for remedy? THE TRUST IS COLLAPSED....in other words, your company is no longer granting them any more credit. If the policeman is not lawfully investigating the crime on behalf of the male/female victim and is entering YOUR company jurisdiction without you summonsing them, then would it not be advisable to be politely placing YOUR public-servants/trustees under your notification that your company is charging £707 per hour/part-there-of for YOUR company time and also £717 for YOUR company performance?....and that any further communicating (verbal) and/ or corresponding (written) with your company, is with them accepting the terms & conditions of the commercial contract IN THE PRIVATE (the cop and their CHIEF and their POLICE UNION is now with PERSONAL liability.... because Notice-to-Agent-is-Notice-to-Principal....and also through JOINDER....and they also lose their qualified immunity) This way, you are NOT resisting/refusing to obey/comply with their orders/demands/policy /questions, but instead, you are now willing to perform WITH THE CONDITION that payment is with your company immediately, because you have NO CONFIDENCE with them administrating YOUR company trust! THE PUBLIC TRUST IS COLLAPSED...Why is YOUR company issuing them extra credit! Are YOU not the executor and the beneficiary of YOUR trust?...making them the trustees, whom are with their fiduciary obligation and duty-of-care to be NOT causing you injury nor damage nor loss nor harm. Is THEIR job YOUR job? Is THEIR company policy YOUR company policy? not unless and until they are PAYING for your company time & performance THE CONSTRUCTIVE TRUST IS COLLAPSED...YOUR company is no longer performing free-of-charge! You may be willing to pursue the matter through the small-claims-court and/or through arbitration which is held in-the-private because PUBLIC court is only for the PUBLIC servant. YOUR TRUST FUND IS NOW WITH RESTORATION....YOUR company now making money from every encounter with YOUR public-servants because the days of doing something with your trustees for free are over. PS-Be the BUSINESS man with the public-servants.....NOT the victim.
But when you are in trouble, it is them that you will turn to. Do everything legally and politely, you will receive the same politeness back from them. They have a job to do and I think that it is a job that most people would not want to do. Just imagine the violent druggies, the drunken thugs, the drivers and riders that are not legally on the road, confronting crowds of violent protestors.
@@tolar9 I have had my fair share of being pulled by the police and in the past I have had a few convictions for speeding, no tax and no MOT, also for allowing someone to drive my car without insurance (the person had their own car and I wrongly thought that they would be covered but they were not) but with all of those pulls, I was always polite, I never made a fuss, if I was guilty, then the police were doing what they were supposed to do. I am not saying that there are no bad policemen but they are very few and far between in my long experience. Perhaps you are one of these people that always argues when you know that you are in the wrong. Speak to the police in the same way that you want to be spoken to and they will reciprocate.
I’m 44 now. Had Golf Gti’s from the age of 19. Stopped numerous times and had to produce documents at police stations. This video has just reminded me of how they would make me wait over an hour on each occasion just to check my details. Probably did check in first few minutes and then watched me from the two way mirror as I wasted my time 🤨
They’re only allowed to stop you for as long as it reasonably takes to perform necessary checks. You’d have complaints upheld for a standard traffic stop that lasted an hour for no genuine reason. It’s ten mins max.
Asked you to lift your visor and then when you clarified that they actually meant completely remove your helmet, you’re called “anti” in a rude tone. When they’re wasting your time pulling you over and asking you to remove your gear, do they not realise it’s an inconvenience and a negative experience in itself. It’s their attitudes/actions that makes people “anti police”.
Yes. the other point that the police miss is that of the three of us at the side of the road only two were getting paid, the other one was missing earning time. They would only get that if they ever had to work as self employed or in the private sector.
I'd have a word with 'Crimebodge', as the Officer started with "what's your name". To the best of my knowledge that's not how it should start. If they wish to speak with you, there own and your safety is priority, a such they should direct to to a safe spot, then begin speaking with you. They don't do themselves any favours do they.
I think you make a good point which I didn't spot. Yes Crimebodge would probably pick loads of holes in their procedure, he's a trooper actually pursuing prosecutions against the police like he does 👍
Tbf I think that if they had heard the name that came up on their screen they would have left it at that, a wrong name or weird reaction or if he ran, obvious thief. Not that I'd expect Beans looks like the typical bike thief, but that's most likely what they were checking with it being such a huge problem in London.
Not a difficult concept. People that go "My name is on your system" are idiots. Literally. For instance, plausible example here: My mate goes on holiday.... let's say for 2 weeks. Whilst he is away, I break into his house, and steal his £70,000 car, and take it for a joyride. He's on holiday and has no idea it's been stolen. I'm driving around in it like a burk, and get pulled over as such, when they ask for my name, instead of actually giving them my name, which would then immediately arouse suspicion since my name wouldn't match the registered keeper's name, I say to them "It's on your system". Normally they will ask to see some ID, I say i haven't got any on me, although I have, but I refuse to give it to them and continually say I haven't got any ID on me, at this point they have no powers to search me, so won't find the ID with my actual name on it. They process "me" to court (of course it's not me, it's my mate, since the car is registered in his name and i've pinched it) because I managed to persuade them, that although I have no ID on me, the car is mine. I'm then allowed to carry on my way, after being processed and reported for court summons. I continue to drive around in his stolen car, and board a cross channel ferry to the Netherlands, where I sell it on to a dodgy garage for say 10/20k. He returns home from holiday, to find his car missing, he then gets a letter through in the post informing him that he's due to appear at court for the offence of careless/dangerous driving. Despite having been abroad for the last two weeks, he's utterly clueless until he realises that whoever stole his car must have then been stopped and given his details. Police had the opportunity to recover a car that WAS stolen (albeit it hadn't been reported stolen as yet). Now let's start that scenario again.... I get stopped, I give my ACTUAL name. They compare this to the registered keeper on the system, and of course, it's different. They tell me this, and I then inform them that I borrowed it off my mate, trying to worm my way out of getting nicked of course. Any decent copper won't take my word for it, and will want to speak to my mate to confirm this is true. When I then refuse to call him, or the call connects to him, and the officer speak to him, and confirm that he has given no one any permission to drive his car, I get nicked for Theft of motor vehicle, rightly so. See the difference? Just because the police can run a registration through, and it will give them the name of the owner, it doesn't always mean that's the person riding it, does it? You know it is - because it's YOUR bike. But they don't know that, and that's why they ask you, to confirm it. The more you make it awkward by then turning around any saying "It's on your system" or "I don't have to tell you" the more they suspect you've nicked it, and it's not been reported stolen yet. Pretty simple really...
May we politely suggest the following de-escalation for remedy? THE TRUST IS COLLAPSED....in other words, your company is no longer granting them any more credit. If the policeman is not lawfully investigating the crime on behalf of the male/female victim and is entering YOUR company jurisdiction without you summonsing them, then would it not be advisable to be politely placing YOUR public-servants/trustees under your notification that your company is charging £707 per hour/part-there-of for YOUR company time and also £717 for YOUR company performance?....and that any further communicating (verbal) and/ or corresponding (written) with your company, is with them accepting the terms & conditions of the commercial contract IN THE PRIVATE (the cop and their CHIEF and their POLICE UNION is now with PERSONAL liability.... because Notice-to-Agent-is-Notice-to-Principal....and also through JOINDER....and they also lose their qualified immunity) This way, you are NOT resisting/refusing to obey/comply with their orders/demands/policy /questions, but instead, you are now willing to perform WITH THE CONDITION that payment is with your company immediately, because you have NO CONFIDENCE with them administrating YOUR company trust! THE PUBLIC TRUST IS COLLAPSED...Why is YOUR company issuing them extra credit! Are YOU not the executor and the beneficiary of YOUR trust?...making them the trustees, whom are with their fiduciary obligation and duty-of-care to be NOT causing you injury nor damage nor loss nor harm. Is THEIR job YOUR job? Is THEIR company policy YOUR company policy? not unless and until they are PAYING for your company time & performance THE CONSTRUCTIVE TRUST IS COLLAPSED...YOUR company is no longer performing free-of-charge! You may be willing to pursue the matter through the small-claims-court and/or through arbitration which is held in-the-private because PUBLIC court is only for the PUBLIC servant. YOUR TRUST FUND IS NOW WITH RESTORATION....YOUR company now making money from every encounter with YOUR public-servants because the days of doing something with your trustees for free are over. PS-Be the BUSINESS man with the public-servants.....NOT the victim.
@@AndyTaylorprinter Thank you for your reply. Our apologies for the rather lengthy comment....but needed by way of clarification. The abridged version would read- `We charge you £1,000 for every ANSWER to each of your questions, please and thank you` (be polite, it makes for best-business-practice) Hope this shortened version helps.
They have vowed, a long, long time ago, to be our enemies, which is sad. You know this goes back to the days of the Peeler's, the Peelers protecting the rich, that is why they actually came about, and hauling the poor into the courts on charges that were so petty they were pathetic. Officers would steal from those whom they found on the street had slumped down onto the pavement, go through their pockets. The saying, "Ask a police man," in regard to finding out the time, was from this, that officers would steal watches from drunks.
Like he said not even an apology for waisting his time . And the attitude from them stinks he's right never trust these bastard's. If the can find a charge they'll invent one
Wholeheartedly agree! I was always told to say “I don’t answer questions”. They’re looking for you to incriminate yourself. You’re better off saying nothing at all. You are legally obliged to provide your details & that’s it!
Yes thank you, I also think if I'm firm with them but not lippy just making sure they are clear in what they say to me, they are more likely to move on to a softer target that is less likely to fight any invoice they might choose to issue 🤣
May we politely suggest the following de-escalation for remedy? THE TRUST IS COLLAPSED....in other words, your company is no longer granting them any more credit. If the policeman is not lawfully investigating the crime on behalf of the male/female victim and is entering YOUR company jurisdiction without you summonsing them, then would it not be advisable to be politely placing YOUR public-servants/trustees under your notification that your company is charging £707 per hour/part-there-of for YOUR company time and also £717 for YOUR company performance?....and that any further communicating (verbal) and/ or corresponding (written) with your company, is with them accepting the terms & conditions of the commercial contract IN THE PRIVATE (the cop and their CHIEF and their POLICE UNION is now with PERSONAL liability.... because Notice-to-Agent-is-Notice-to-Principal....and also through JOINDER....and they also lose their qualified immunity) This way, you are NOT resisting/refusing to obey/comply with their orders/demands/policy /questions, but instead, you are now willing to perform WITH THE CONDITION that payment is with your company immediately, because you have NO CONFIDENCE with them administrating YOUR company trust! THE PUBLIC TRUST IS COLLAPSED...Why is YOUR company issuing them extra credit! Are YOU not the executor and the beneficiary of YOUR trust?...making them the trustees, whom are with their fiduciary obligation and duty-of-care to be NOT causing you injury nor damage nor loss nor harm. Is THEIR job YOUR job? Is THEIR company policy YOUR company policy? not unless and until they are PAYING for your company time & performance THE CONSTRUCTIVE TRUST IS COLLAPSED...YOUR company is no longer performing free-of-charge! You may be willing to pursue the matter through the small-claims-court and/or through arbitration which is held in-the-private because PUBLIC court is only for the PUBLIC servant. YOUR TRUST FUND IS NOW WITH RESTORATION....YOUR company now making money from every encounter with YOUR public-servants because the days of doing something with your trustees for free are over. PS-Be the BUSINESS man with the public-servants.....NOT the victim. This will involve SOME talking to the police.....for YOUR benefit.
@Deane Minister And asking the cops to repeat everything they say but louder and clearer as I need it for the audio quality on the two gopro's recording them seems to wind the cops up even more 🤣🤣🤣
I've never been anti police but they've definitely changed my opinion over the last 12 months through their actions. Corrupt, part of the establishment and very poor characters.
Agreed. I'm always polite and courteous, as in the past that has resulted in me getting off on things that they COULD have charged me for, and for which I was guilty. 20 mins for a document check seems excessive. They usually only take a few moments with me. But I don't trust the bastards either.
I used to run a transport company and got stopped so often I folded the company and started selling t-shirts. Now the Police are confused. No Surprise there.
I once stopped near a car and police came over told me it was my car and started checking all sorts of details about the car I didn't own and had told them I did not own. They then said I was intentionally not opening the car to allow them access to it. The owner of the car eventually come over as we were all around his car and I was told I apparently wasted police time.
Beans on Toast. Just come across this clip and watched/loved it. All I can say is I totally agree 100000000000000000% what more can I say other than I now have subscribed to your channel.
Straight to the point, ''Dont trust those BASTARDS'' that made me chuckle lol Stopped you for a documents check 'papers', but quoted the wrong act when asking for your 'papers'
Well in the UK our largest revenue earner is not manufacturing it is money laundering, which is centred around the City Of London, which is administered by the cooperation of London and so they control the city police which are also a cooperation used to protect the money launders at all cost. That's my simplified explanation of the City Of London 😂
Whenever the topic of bad policing comes up, people usually say 'its just a case of a few bad apples' but the expression is not:- 'A few bad apples are really annoying' or 'One bad apple makes the others look bad' the saying goes:- "One bad apple SPOILS the bunch" Thats why farmers get rid of bad apples, they dont defend bad apples, they dont give bad apples promotions, they dont let bad apples take early retirement with full pensions. They throw them out to protect the good ones. If police departments want the respect of the public, they have to earn it by showing us they actually care about their product. until then, its perfectly reasonable to assume the whole barrel is spoiled and the farmer doesnt care!
Beans On Toast ..... With you completely on EVERYTHING you said in the video, as a fellow motorcyclist since 1966 ... still riding! These coppers were dim. Firstly, the copper asked you to "raise your visor" after looking at the picture on your driving licence. Soon afterwards, he asks you to remove your helmet and when asked to confirm that this is what he wants, he acts as if he'd already asked you to do that. He hadn't. His attitude stinks ... clearly not the sharpest knife in the drawer. Then, he quotes section 163 of the RTA when asking you to produce your documents. Wrong again ... Section 163 does not require you to produce your documents. Here is Section 163 of the RTA. Nowhere does it say that this section requires you to produce your documents. He should be quoting the correct section ... too dim to know that it seems. He's clearly a halfwit who is in the wrong job. *163Power of police to stop vehicles.* (1)A person driving a [F1mechanically propelled vehicle] on a road must stop the vehicle on being required to do so by a constable in uniform [F2or a traffic officer]. (2)A person riding a cycle on a road must stop the cycle on being required to do so by a constable in uniform [F3or a traffic officer]. (3)If a person fails to comply with this section he is guilty of an offence. (4)F4. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Textual Amendments F1 Words in s. 163(1) substituted (1.7.1992) by Road Traffic Act 1991 (c. 40, SIF 107:1), s. 48, Sch. 4 para. 67; S.I. 1992/1286, art. 2, Sch. F2 Words in s. 163(1) inserted (E.W.) (4.10.2004 for E. and 1.5.2009 for W.) by Traffic Management Act 2004 (c. 18), ss. 6(4), 99 (with s. 38); S.I. 2004/2380, art. 2(a); S.I. 2009/1095, art. 2(a) F3 Words in s. 163(2) inserted (E.W.) (4.10.2004 for E. and 1.5.2009 for W.) by Traffic Management Act 2004 (c. 18), ss. 6(4), 99 (with s. 38); S.I. 2004/2380, art. 2(a); S.I. 2009/1095, art. 2(a) F4 S. 163(4) inserted (1.10.2002) by Police Reform Act 2002 (c. 30), s. 49(1)(3); S.I. 2002/2306, art. 2(d)(iv) and subsequently repealed (1.1.2006) by Serious Organised Crime and Police Act 2005 (c. 15), ss. 111, 174(2), 178, Sch. 7 para. 27(3), Sch. 17 Pt. 2; S.I. 2005/3495, art. 2(1)(m)(u) (subject to art. 2(2)) Modifications etc. (not altering text) C1 S. 163: power to extend conferred by Road Traffic Regulation Act 1984 (c. 27, SIF 107:1), s. 96(2)(c)(ii)(3) (as amended by Road Traffic (Consequential Provisions) Act 1988 (c. 54, SIF 107:1), s. 4, Sch. 3 para. 25(6)(b)(7)(a)) Finally, no courtesy shown at the end of the stop ... any decent and respectful person in that job would have said words to the effect of, thanks for your cooperation, sorry to have delayed you, please carry on. Creeps!
I think that's very impressive that you have such a long history of riding and thanks for the detailed comment. I guess you saw what I was doing with the police by being very clear with them in getting them to state what they wanted in case I decided later to escalate the matter. The overall intelligence of police recruits continues to drop year on year so any interaction with them should be recorded for protection and they have very vague memories of events.
@@BeansOnToast_YT I liked the way you said you'd follow him ... that was smart. Knowing how low some of them are prepared to stoop, it wouldn't surprise me if he'd given you a ticket for stopping in that cycle lane like he did!
@@BeansOnToast_YT There was a situation back in the 90's when I was on my way home from work in Camden Town, on my BMW R100. There were two lanes, both full of very long lines of stationary traffic. I passed the queuing traffic in the offside of the two lanes and then came to a stop behind a line of motorcycles doing the same but they weren't moving. There was a motorcycle cop holding them up ahead, and for no reason. I waited for the traffic to start moving during one of the changes of the traffic lights, which were some way ahead and managed to get my pretty large bike in between the traffic in the nearside lane and the kerb ... I slowly got past the copper and then managed to resume my position to the offside position and then ride the 100 or so yards to the head of the queue at the red traffic signal. The copper on the bike rode up and stopped alongside me in the opposite carriageway and he said, "undertaking is an endorsable offence!" I knew the lights were about to change so I asked him to pull up beyond the lights. He did ... and I then asked him to repeat what he had said. He repeated it and I then said, "No it isn't at all ... nothing at all illegal about passing traffic on the inside ... I've been doing it since the 1960's!" He tried to stand his ground and I suggested if I had broken the law, then he should give me a ticket but I added that I couldn't see what he would write on it as to what the offence was, as there was no law which stated that "undertaking" was an offence. He said, "Well .... there was nobody injured on this occasion so we'll let it go!" ...He then rode off. What a sad individual ... lying to a member of the public because I had annoyed him by not allowing him to hold me up .... and then not having the balls to admit he was wrong!
@@thepianoman1010 Typical, and all too often when they first stop you they ask you if you know what you did wrong. A stupid question I assume to get you to incriminate yourself.
COMMON LAW (Law of the land) - upheld by a police constable. No one is above common law, and those in breach of common law will be tried in a common law court before a jury of their peers. There must be a victim in common law and they do not need your name, as the victim and/or witnesses will point you out as being the perpetrator. Common law - 1 - You cannot hurt anyone 2 - You cannot steal anyone's property 3 - You cannot damage anyone's property 4 - You cannot defraud anyone 5 - You cannot commit breach of the peace towards anyone 6 - You cannot commit treason (or sedition), towards the crown. And that's common law ☝️, that's it and NOTHING ELSE. ACTS AND STATUTES OF PARLIAMENT (Commercial law, contract law, law of the sea, admiralty law) - upheld by a police officer. Only applies to certain groups (Road Traffic Act applies to drivers of vehicles etc) and needs your consent to enforce it, of which they will try to get using legalease ("Do you understand" - meaning do you 'under stand' ((stand under)) my authority). They need your name to issue fines and court dates, (as "Mr Hate crime" can't point you out in court - and no court usher ever shouts out "Occupier to court one"), You are the only one who can give or confirm your name, so NEVER give it. Your answer to every question should be - "I retain my common law right to remain silent" Your answer to every request should be - "I don't want to do anything you tell me to do, but I will do because I feel threatened by you" (They always "ask you" to do something rather than 'tell you' because then you've accepting their authority), and it's VERY important that people don't fall for the "Do you want to" etc etc, because this is where they will trap you. Q - "What's your name?" A - "I retain my common law right to remain silent" Q - "What's your address?" A - "I retain my common law right to remain silent" Q - "If you don't tell me you'll be arrested" A - "I retain my common law right to remain silent" Q - "Well I'm arresting you blah blah blah, 'do you understand'?" A - "No I do not stand under your authority" Q - "Ok well do you want to come this way" A - "I don't want to do anything you tell me to do, but I will do because I feel threatened by you" And before anyone points out that they can get your name from a driving license or passport etc, those are fraudulent documents created from a birth certificate that clearly states across the bottom - "A certificate is not evidence of identity". Let's not forget that the first thing a police constable says to you when he/she arrests you is - "You do not have to say anything", Because, believe it or not - YOU DON'T. You do NOT have to speak to a police constable. You do NOT have to speak to the desk sergeant at the police station. You do NOT have to have a police interview. You do NOT have to attend court. Exercise your God given inalienable common law rights, they're yours and cannot be taken away by anyone, especially by some police officer using his/her uniform to commit treason and fraud by acting as a government bailiff. Police constables swear an oath before God to serve the Monach and protect people and property. They DO NOT swear an oath to protect the government. They swear their oath raising their right hand, and if they went against their oath in a court, they would receive two years for perjury.
Hi Mr Beans, just watched your video and I’ve became a fan right away. Your comments about the police establishment are spot on. Especially this particular one. They worked for the establishment not for the people. That’s why the people are angry and out on the streets at the moment. Well done sir.
I've made it to 2:44 first thing I'd suggest is that asking your name while just stopped at a red light doesn't seem like the best idea, secondly the place they did stop looks like a bad choice, a short stretch between two junctions. Thirdly they stopped you in a bike lane with a solid white line which means vehicles 'must not' enter, I imagine the police making a traffic stop are exempt from this but in that case he should have put his lights on to indicate to others that they are stopped.
That's mistake you made by handing your licence over , you don't need to hand it over because when you do they can keep you there as long as they like, never hand it over , let them look at it and rake details off it ; but never hand it over
As the founder of modern democratic policing, Sir Robert Peel said, " The police are the public and the public are the police. Consent comes from the knowledge that your police officers are impartial and accountable for their actions."
Absolutely agree, tell them nothing at all, they are usually fishing for something and hoping you will drop yourself in it somehow... It has been a very very long time since anyone trusted or respected them, and for good reason. Stay well
May we politely suggest the following de-escalation for remedy? THE TRUST IS COLLAPSED....in other words, your company is no longer granting them any more credit. If the policeman is not lawfully investigating the crime on behalf of the male/female victim and is entering YOUR company jurisdiction without you summonsing them, then would it not be advisable to be politely placing YOUR public-servants/trustees under your notification that your company is charging £707 per hour/part-there-of for YOUR company time and also £717 for YOUR company performance?....and that any further communicating (verbal) and/ or corresponding (written) with your company, is with them accepting the terms & conditions of the commercial contract IN THE PRIVATE (the cop and their CHIEF and their POLICE UNION is now with PERSONAL liability.... because Notice-to-Agent-is-Notice-to-Principal....and also through JOINDER....and they also lose their qualified immunity) This way, you are NOT resisting/refusing to obey/comply with their orders/demands/policy /questions, but instead, you are now willing to perform WITH THE CONDITION that payment is with your company immediately, because you have NO CONFIDENCE with them administrating YOUR company trust! THE PUBLIC TRUST IS COLLAPSED...Why is YOUR company issuing them extra credit! Are YOU not the executor and the beneficiary of YOUR trust?...making them the trustees, whom are with their fiduciary obligation and duty-of-care to be NOT causing you injury nor damage nor loss nor harm. Is THEIR job YOUR job? Is THEIR company policy YOUR company policy? not unless and until they are PAYING for your company time & performance THE CONSTRUCTIVE TRUST IS COLLAPSED...YOUR company is no longer performing free-of-charge! You may be willing to pursue the matter through the small-claims-court and/or through arbitration which is held in-the-private because PUBLIC court is only for the PUBLIC servant. YOUR TRUST FUND IS NOW WITH RESTORATION....YOUR company now making money from every encounter with YOUR public-servants because the days of doing something with your trustees for free are over. PS-Be the BUSINESS man with the public-servants.....NOT the victim. This will involve SOME talking to the police....for YOUR benefit.
Years ago, a girlfriend was destroying my windscreen wipers and wing mirrors; I reversed to get the hell out of dodge and unknowingly ran over her foot, she got me arrested, and the police did everything they could to PERSUADE me to plead guilty to common assault, I refused, so they let me go, no further action.
What a pair of idiot's they started the stupidity by pulling him over for nothing in the first place, and if he is discussing your details on that radio in the open to the public hearing then he is breaking your confidentiality rights
Excellent job, exactly how it's done. I've been riding for 40 years and never met a copper that's my friend, even though they try and act like they are.
*A "COPINAL" (Cop+criminal: TYRANT):* *1. ´A bent cop who makes up his own laws and rules and is prone* *to violence when you, the LAW ABIDING CIVILIAN shows resistance* *to his unlawful and unreasonable commands and unlawful demands´.* *2. ´A criminal police officer with a badge and a gun and no honour´* *(A liar and an oath-breaker is not honourable, police are allowed to lie).* *3. ´A bent police officer, not only bent but one who is also uppity, in* *other words a lousy servant, a tyrant.* *4. ´A police officer who is ready to do you the LAW ABIDING CIVILIAN* *violence ´just because he feels like it´.* *5. A police officer who meddles in YOUR LAWFUL BUSINESS AND* *LAWFUL DAILY ACTIVITIES (a ´Copinal´ busy-body).* *6. ´A wive beater who takes his frustration and anger out on the public.* *He knows there are limits to how many times he can assault and* *batter his own wive and his kids in a week´s time, so he* *takes his sadism out on the innocent public to get "relief"´.* *7. ´A cowardly weasel/hyena who hides behind a badge a gun and* *his buddies and has learned just enough self-defense tactics in the* *police academy to do harm to the innocent public which he loathes* *and which he blames for his own cowardliness and lack of manhood´.* *"COPINAL" can mean ´PSYCHO´ (cop), ´UPPITY´ (cop), ´TYRANT´,* *´CROOKED´, ´SADIST´, ´GASLIGHTER´, ´LIAR´ and much more.*
I have had my own similar experiences.Whenever people say that we have the best police force in the world (which used to be said a lot until recently) I always realise immediately that these people have never had any dealings with the police and won't have their eyes open until they do.
This again is an example of the attitude of the current police officers. Just by the way they walked over you could immediately tell that power had come rushing to their heads. No reason given for the stop but the public have to be courteous to police but it certainly does not work the other way. Bobbies were great in times gone by but now we have these characters that bully, lie and intimidate.
The guy was politely asked his name, gave a smart reply so they wasted 20 minutes of his time. Maybe they didn't like the way he thought he had the right to weave in and out of traffic and pull on the outside of cars straddling the central white line - it's there for a reason. I loved every second of this video.
I had to rewind it back just to make sure I heard you right. You get falsely arrested at your workplace. dragged down to a police station, end up spending a few hours in a cell, get integrated and bullied and you did nothing about it. if your story was true. Then you are a mug and deserve everything you got. Why would that copper not think twice about doing what he did to you to someone else? you let him off scot-free. no reprimand nothing. he got his way in the end.
I'd just be inclined to give my name so anything else can be seen as excessive. Police in the old days probably were thugs, however today they are kids who've just left school with no real world experience.
Damn it Beans, stop getting into trouble, minding your own business on a city street is bound to get you in trouble. By the way, that's one fine mural!
Good on ya B.O.T. 👍👍 Their backbone fell apart when Protestors were vandalising the Cenotaph, Churchills monument and other landmarks, yet when they see a law observing rider they attempt to show their competence. Perhaps I'm wrong, and if so someone correct me, but don't the Filth require a reason for the stop, to then ask for your documents?
Funny you should mention the protests, I saw the veterans round the back of horseguards on their way to protect the cenotaph. I wanted to warn them it was a trap, but I don't think they would have changed plans. Now there are a number of videos made by veterans telling of how abusive and disgusting the met police were towards them that day. It was an education for some of them I think, but they know where they stand now.
@@BeansOnToast_YT No mate, the blokes would have continued to show their support for those past heroes and what the monuments stand for. Of course there was some numpty's that hit the Ale hard and did some silly stuff but 99% of them were there for the right reasons, and if the Fith were attacked by mobs, would have got stuck in to defend them. . Of course they were then branded Left wing, Right wing, Brown wing, etc. I work with blokes that are ex Job, and they can't tolerate the attitudes and lack of backbone of modern day policing
@@AS-yc3yy Thanks for that AS, I would have mentioned it if it'd happened to me, and of course not taken it as fact, if their response was "they are allowed"
@@bikemenace2145 if you need anymore information you can look up the road traffic act and PACE which outlines the laws about it easily available on google or government website 👍
163 is the power to stop. 164 is the power to request driving licence and DoB. 165 is the power to request name and addresses, insurance and other related docs.
They only did it because you overtook them at the lights. Pure crappy policing with nothing better to do. The trouble is there is better things to be doing like catching criminals
theres no law that says that body coverings have to be removed. And that was very wise to insist that the police go first, if you went first some police will say you tried to get away, or you stopped somewhere unsafe.
Mate. Stumbled across your channel via this vid. (Handled like a pro) . Ended up watching your observations ALL night. Thanks... Restored my Faith. Jaw hurts. ..
That is fine but don't push your luck or they will look for any excuse to hold you back longer or even arrest you. I got pulled many years ago with two friends in my car, I just gave them what they asked and they done their checks. They then turned their attention to the one friend giving them lip, he ended up being searched having property taken from him (a pocket knife and other small items), he was close to getting pinched because he 'couldn't' keep it shut. Another mate more recently had the shit kicked out of him with batons, breaking his hand in the process, he was offering out about four officers but not going for them, but they went way to far to arrest him, for nothing probably. But when he was beaten by lads with a hammer, they did not even look for them even though it happened not far from the city station that he went straight to with a bloodied head. TBF he does have a lot of bad luck with people and the Police, has done his whole life, so of course his attitude is not great when Police are about.
Illegal stop, if they had checked their record and found an issue, then pulling him over would be lawfull, but they hadn't as we can see that they checked after the stop. You're marked on the on the sytem to be pulled over (intimidation) because they couldn't nick you for the theft of the wallet. Little unknow fact is that, if you report an office to the local magistrates, then the magistrate must summons and question the officer in regaurds to the complaint. This also goes on the officers record. They couldn't even get the correct section of the road trafic act. 163 is stop only, and 164 is for driving licence and 165 are for details (but not date of birth) during a stop
Narcissists, by their very nature are drawn to police as a career. The things they love...power and control are irresistible to them. It's very apparent by viewing these sorts of videos that there is a very high percentage of them. Very rarely see a copper who isn't a raving narcissist. The smug, superior look on their faces and the way they speak to people makes them very easy to spot.
Absolutely agree with you @Beans On Toast . As a retire Canadian Truck Driver i retired JUST before the new (KNOBS) of police all came on the Scene. The change from "Freindly out to serve the Public" to "Paranoid Twits With Guns" is plain to see. Im not sure where this paranoia is coming from, but Im hoping it will stop before to much unrepairable damage to the public has been done(and thats not far off)
WTH!? Asking for your name in live traffic? As for the stop, at any point did they formally identify themselves or even tell you they were recording you, as part of their policy? You handled it really well and as always great advice when being confronted by the tyrants in blue.
Thanks, you could tell they weren't used to that response, but why should I be happy for them to use up my time whilst they are being paid, it's not as if they show any interest or even competence when one of my bikes gets stolen. Surely they must have some selfies to take in front of a dead body or some pensioners to knock over.
@@BeansOnToast_YT I have never known a police officer to act professionally or know exactly what they are doing, whilst giving directives. They are a sick bunch of individuals who will always back each other up, unless the line of decency has either been crossed or found to have been crossed. As you ride in the places I normally take pictures, please don't be surprised if you suddenly hear "Beans on Toast!" coming from the sea of tourists, lol.
@@hemedia7082 Sure thing, funny you should say that as yesterday I was waiting at the lights outside the London scientology HQ and this bloke was stood in the doorway and started taking photos of me then put his thumbs up and walked on. Now I'm a bit twitchy around that tax dodging cult as I was once helping film a documentary outside what was their celebrity building in the west end and it wasn't long before the scientology lot reacted, they really don't like cameras. It was only after yesterdays photographer walked off I clicked that the poor sod was just sheltering from the rain in the cults doorway. He probably didn't even know what the building was. So please don't be surprised if I mistake you for a cult member 😂
I am not anti-police and don't understand why anyone would make their life hard by being belligerent with them. Just cooperate and be on your way. Only criminals need worry about the police. I do agree however, with your comment about police being "childish". I have found this a lot and always wondered why that is. I went to school with a boy who became a policeman. He wasn't "bullied" by my standards, though by today's standards he probably was. He had slightly big cheeks and his surname was Farrow so people would call him Farrow the Marrow head. I think this possibly contributed to him becoming a policeman. I think we need cops - and on the whole I think they do a decent job. Can't be easy - not today when many people are against them.
@@fancyboi82 yeah, and I hear what you are saying but even so - black or white - cooperating is a must. We do need police. Without them it just wouldn't work. Well not in the UK where we don't even have guns.
There's no such thing as a routine stop - think about it, you'd see them stopping everyone everywhere at random. Police need a reason for such stops and they didn't have one.
@@jackking5567 He was stopped for a document check, which was explained to him, he even further explained what section of legislation that falls under. Google it.
I'm still waiting to hear what legislation that is. Police need reasonable grounds to conduct such a stop. A failed light bulb would be an example. If this rider did nothing wrong then this stop by police is classed as harassment.
you never have to speak to them at all you have to GIVE them your details carry a piece of paper with your name and address and date of birth and never speak to them it goes "you have the right to remain silent" that is all you need to know
You would be horrified to see just what is going on. You may, or may not know, that those who apply to become police officers, today, are as thick as a piece of three by two, and what is more some are mentally unstable, the latter I find unbelievable, but true as I know of a police officer who has sever brain injury, is not exactly on the planet. I was once speaking to an ex senior Home Office official and he remarked that they had to reduce the entrance test, make it easier, and even then most persons failed, only to resit, fail, resit, fail, and eventually pass, and this is before having to learn the law, and procedure. The candidates are generally also lazy in the physical sphere, and so many obese it is offensive to see. We have an increasing band of moronic people, in black jump suits on our streets, and increasing because government want an army of officers to contain the people, government not wanting to put the army on the streets for the pending civil war
I have friends who are retired policemen, one who has sadly passed was a royal security officer, another an undercover officer who was stabbed in the back in a foreign country whilst at work, all in all they total about 8 men. 3 of whom left before retirement age because they could not accept the way the force was degenerating, and were genuinely concerned at the quality of leadership and quality of recruits, others amongst the group often make comments of how the police force has slipped from being respected to being hated by the general public, something they are very critical of remarking how things were so different when they were serving, there is only one left actually in the job and he can’t wait until he is eligible for his pension so he can retire. Those two arrogant thugs that stopped you would appear to support the remarks made by my friends. They actually looked disappointed when they realised there was nothing they could do to you. Well handled by you. B******s perfect adjective for them.
Has the law changed? The police should have picked a place on the road that was safe and Legal to stop... I continued once for half a mile as there were constant double yellow lines, ( they only wanted to escort me to a ministry checkpoint), but they were flashing their emergency lights( should only be used in an emergency 🤔) and attempting to force me to stop! I carried on until it was safe to stop... when I did the police officer went mad as I didn't stop straight away... he said noone had Ever done that! I said obviously they hadn't read the highway code... I followed him to the checkpoint.. then took the pervebial out of them too... you have to laugh at their incompetence!
Routine stops are so that they can check that you will capitulate to their aurthority and be all yes sir, three bags full sir. The trigger here was that you had the temerity to pull up along side them and get in front at the lights. Meanwhile, during them carrying out this vital, important police work, people are being robbed, raped, attacked and trying to report it, but the control centre won't be able to send any cops because they are hassling people with roadside stop checks.
163 of the road traffic act only allows them to stop you, nothing more than the stop no Id check no searches. 164 is that you must show id. So when I get stopped and ask them what traffic act they are stopping me for if they say 163 ( they all say this) I point out that 163 is only to stop me and if they want my id I need the correct traffic act
any one who has dealt with coppers in any shape or form knows this to be true. it's sad for the coppers them selves to start with ( although there's some that are filth from the start.) i reckon most of 'em get shaped/manipulated in to being that way. i had a bike in the 70's. got stopped all the time. glad to say, a lot of 'em do'nt last long...na then.
I was stopped 7 times in 2 weeks back in the 1970's on my old lambretta. Have had no faith in the plod ever since then but they are too thick to realise why.
Never speak to the police… they’re always fishing 🎣
Well handled. Tell them as little as possible, because they are looking for you to slip up so they can charge you with any petty thing they can get away with. They are embarrassing.
I think telling them his name might have been a good start! Then he wouldn't have been stopped
@ne-ht4zx why? The more powers they get the more corrupt they behave, remember covid? They loved that, and generated even more police haters
Respect for the police went a long time ago and you’re right standards have dropped in the police and they do seem to recruit more morons than ever
"I'm not here for a discussion, just do your job." Love it, really well said. It's interesting how they want to get into a conversation with you, by asking a loaded question. You stopped them dead by responding with "just do your job." I think they realized right there and then, that you were not going to be the compliant, obedient "good" citizen. I enjoyed the way you handled these police and will subscribe. "Beans on Toast," is also a great name.
The reason that they engage in all this largely irrelevant blather and moronic repetition, if given the chance, is that they are simply hoping that by making you talk you will say something they can pretend is a self-contradiction, since this is something they can then use to pretend that further questioning or other action is justified. The more you talk, the more chance you give them.
The big problem, in USA and even more in UK, is that the police have the power to incriminate and arrest and officially open a investigation .
In italy and other country in continental Western Europe, the police is totally dependent and at the orders of magistrate.
The prosecutor is the same order of judges, in totally a magistrate, totally spared and independent from government and ministers. The police is dependent from government only in public security activity. But in judiciary activity and investigation pass to depend to magistrates.
Only the magistrate can open and direct the investigation. Only the magistrate can incriminate and arrest a suspect.
Police can arrest in exceptionaly cases only if directly present in the act of a committed or attempted non-culpable crime for which the law establishes the penalty of life imprisonment or imprisonment of no less than five years at least and a maximum of twenty years Only for strictly necessary time to present the person to magistrate and in any case no more of 24 hours. Never can arrest if is not present in the act.
Fot any suspect or crimes with penalty less than 3 years in the minimum and less than 5 years in the maximum, the arrest of the police is totally forbidden.
The constitution say in art n.13
Personal freedom is inviolable. No form of detention, inspection or personal search is permitted, nor any other restriction of personal freedom, except by reasoned act of the judicial authority and only in the cases and methods provided for by law.
its means that In italy, the incrimination, investigation and detention and any restriction of freedom is totally in the hands of the magistrates and never of the government and executive power apparatus.
I don't trust the police as far as i can throw em, and judging by most of their weight these days thats not very far at all
May we politely suggest the following de-escalation for remedy?
THE TRUST IS COLLAPSED....in other words, your company is no longer granting them any more credit.
If the policeman is not lawfully investigating the crime on behalf of the male/female victim and is entering YOUR company jurisdiction without you summonsing them, then would it not be advisable to be politely placing YOUR public-servants/trustees under your notification that your company is charging £707 per hour/part-there-of for YOUR company time and also £717 for YOUR company performance?....and that any further communicating (verbal) and/ or corresponding (written) with your company, is with them accepting the terms & conditions of the commercial contract IN THE PRIVATE (the cop and their CHIEF and their POLICE UNION is now with PERSONAL liability.... because Notice-to-Agent-is-Notice-to-Principal....and also through JOINDER....and they also lose their qualified immunity)
This way, you are NOT resisting/refusing to obey/comply with their orders/demands/policy /questions, but instead, you are now willing to perform WITH THE CONDITION that payment is with your company immediately, because you have NO CONFIDENCE with them administrating YOUR company trust!
THE PUBLIC TRUST IS COLLAPSED...Why is YOUR company issuing them extra credit! Are YOU not the executor and the beneficiary of YOUR trust?...making them the trustees, whom are with their fiduciary obligation and duty-of-care to be NOT causing you injury nor damage nor loss nor harm.
Is THEIR job YOUR job? Is THEIR company policy YOUR company policy?
not unless and until they are PAYING for your company time & performance
THE CONSTRUCTIVE TRUST IS COLLAPSED...YOUR company is no longer performing free-of-charge!
You may be willing to pursue the matter through the small-claims-court and/or through arbitration which is held in-the-private because PUBLIC court is only for the PUBLIC servant.
YOUR TRUST FUND IS NOW WITH RESTORATION....YOUR company now making money from every encounter with YOUR public-servants because the days of doing something with your trustees for free are over.
PS-Be the BUSINESS man with the public-servants.....NOT the victim.
I know, those two at the end of the video are so circus fat any criminal that wants to make a getaway just needs to walk briskly away 😂
But when you are in trouble, it is them that you will turn to. Do everything legally and politely, you will receive the same politeness back from them. They have a job to do and I think that it is a job that most people would not want to do. Just imagine the violent druggies, the drunken thugs, the drivers and riders that are not legally on the road, confronting crowds of violent protestors.
@@honestchris7472 Keep polishing those badges, mate, they'll definitely kick your head in last!
@@tolar9 I have had my fair share of being pulled by the police and in the past I have had a few convictions for speeding, no tax and no MOT, also for allowing someone to drive my car without insurance (the person had their own car and I wrongly thought that they would be covered but they were not) but with all of those pulls, I was always polite, I never made a fuss, if I was guilty, then the police were doing what they were supposed to do. I am not saying that there are no bad policemen but they are very few and far between in my long experience. Perhaps you are one of these people that always argues when you know that you are in the wrong. Speak to the police in the same way that you want to be spoken to and they will reciprocate.
I’m 44 now. Had Golf Gti’s from the age of 19. Stopped numerous times and had to produce documents at police stations. This video has just reminded me of how they would make me wait over an hour on each occasion just to check my details. Probably did check in first few minutes and then watched me from the two way mirror as I wasted my time 🤨
im 63 and had the same shit in my 3 litre Capri lol.
They’re only allowed to stop you for as long as it reasonably takes to perform necessary checks. You’d have complaints upheld for a standard traffic stop that lasted an hour for no genuine reason. It’s ten mins max.
"I dont trust the bastards " well said ,Sir
Had a nice wee chuckle when a heard that.
163 of the road traffic act doesn’t require you to produce your documents.
Correct it's 164 and 165.
163 = Stop
164 = Driving licence
165 = Name and address
@@boztec7187 your driving license has your address on it, so they don’t need 165 to ask for it.
165 insurance
DOCUMENT CHECK ?
WTF?
Papers Please......
But your not required?
They keep on quoting 163 and then asking for your details, you don't have to give them with 163, they need 164 or 165.
Asked you to lift your visor and then when you clarified that they actually meant completely remove your helmet, you’re called “anti” in a rude tone. When they’re wasting your time pulling you over and asking you to remove your gear, do they not realise it’s an inconvenience and a negative experience in itself. It’s their attitudes/actions that makes people “anti police”.
Yes. the other point that the police miss is that of the three of us at the side of the road only two were getting paid, the other one was missing earning time. They would only get that if they ever had to work as self employed or in the private sector.
I'd have a word with 'Crimebodge', as the Officer started with "what's your name". To the best of my knowledge that's not how it should start. If they wish to speak with you, there own and your safety is priority, a such they should direct to to a safe spot, then begin speaking with you. They don't do themselves any favours do they.
I think you make a good point which I didn't spot. Yes Crimebodge would probably pick loads of holes in their procedure, he's a trooper actually pursuing prosecutions against the police like he does 👍
Tbf I think that if they had heard the name that came up on their screen they would have left it at that, a wrong name or weird reaction or if he ran, obvious thief. Not that I'd expect Beans looks like the typical bike thief, but that's most likely what they were checking with it being such a huge problem in London.
Not a difficult concept. People that go "My name is on your system" are idiots. Literally. For instance, plausible example here:
My mate goes on holiday.... let's say for 2 weeks. Whilst he is away, I break into his house, and steal his £70,000 car, and take it for a joyride. He's on holiday and has no idea it's been stolen.
I'm driving around in it like a burk, and get pulled over as such, when they ask for my name, instead of actually giving them my name, which would then immediately arouse suspicion since my name wouldn't match the registered keeper's name, I say to them "It's on your system".
Normally they will ask to see some ID, I say i haven't got any on me, although I have, but I refuse to give it to them and continually say I haven't got any ID on me, at this point they have no powers to search me, so won't find the ID with my actual name on it.
They process "me" to court (of course it's not me, it's my mate, since the car is registered in his name and i've pinched it) because I managed to persuade them, that although I have no ID on me, the car is mine.
I'm then allowed to carry on my way, after being processed and reported for court summons. I continue to drive around in his stolen car, and board a cross channel ferry to the Netherlands, where I sell it on to a dodgy garage for say 10/20k.
He returns home from holiday, to find his car missing, he then gets a letter through in the post informing him that he's due to appear at court for the offence of careless/dangerous driving. Despite having been abroad for the last two weeks, he's utterly clueless until he realises that whoever stole his car must have then been stopped and given his details.
Police had the opportunity to recover a car that WAS stolen (albeit it hadn't been reported stolen as yet).
Now let's start that scenario again.... I get stopped, I give my ACTUAL name. They compare this to the registered keeper on the system, and of course, it's different. They tell me this, and I then inform them that I borrowed it off my mate, trying to worm my way out of getting nicked of course. Any decent copper won't take my word for it, and will want to speak to my mate to confirm this is true.
When I then refuse to call him, or the call connects to him, and the officer speak to him, and confirm that he has given no one any permission to drive his car, I get nicked for Theft of motor vehicle, rightly so.
See the difference?
Just because the police can run a registration through, and it will give them the name of the owner, it doesn't always mean that's the person riding it, does it?
You know it is - because it's YOUR bike. But they don't know that, and that's why they ask you, to confirm it. The more you make it awkward by then turning around any saying "It's on your system" or "I don't have to tell you" the more they suspect you've nicked it, and it's not been reported stolen yet.
Pretty simple really...
Well said Mr Beans. Rule 1; the old bill are not your friends.
May we politely suggest the following de-escalation for remedy?
THE TRUST IS COLLAPSED....in other words, your company is no longer granting them any more credit.
If the policeman is not lawfully investigating the crime on behalf of the male/female victim and is entering YOUR company jurisdiction without you summonsing them, then would it not be advisable to be politely placing YOUR public-servants/trustees under your notification that your company is charging £707 per hour/part-there-of for YOUR company time and also £717 for YOUR company performance?....and that any further communicating (verbal) and/ or corresponding (written) with your company, is with them accepting the terms & conditions of the commercial contract IN THE PRIVATE (the cop and their CHIEF and their POLICE UNION is now with PERSONAL liability.... because Notice-to-Agent-is-Notice-to-Principal....and also through JOINDER....and they also lose their qualified immunity)
This way, you are NOT resisting/refusing to obey/comply with their orders/demands/policy /questions, but instead, you are now willing to perform WITH THE CONDITION that payment is with your company immediately, because you have NO CONFIDENCE with them administrating YOUR company trust!
THE PUBLIC TRUST IS COLLAPSED...Why is YOUR company issuing them extra credit! Are YOU not the executor and the beneficiary of YOUR trust?...making them the trustees, whom are with their fiduciary obligation and duty-of-care to be NOT causing you injury nor damage nor loss nor harm.
Is THEIR job YOUR job? Is THEIR company policy YOUR company policy?
not unless and until they are PAYING for your company time & performance
THE CONSTRUCTIVE TRUST IS COLLAPSED...YOUR company is no longer performing free-of-charge!
You may be willing to pursue the matter through the small-claims-court and/or through arbitration which is held in-the-private because PUBLIC court is only for the PUBLIC servant.
YOUR TRUST FUND IS NOW WITH RESTORATION....YOUR company now making money from every encounter with YOUR public-servants because the days of doing something with your trustees for free are over.
PS-Be the BUSINESS man with the public-servants.....NOT the victim.
@@mccabeianenator Nope! that gibberish is more likely to rile them, just bite your tongue, comply and get on with your day much quicker.
@@mccabeianenator I'm too thick to understand what you wrote, do we print it out and hand it to the old bill, I couldn't remember any of it ?
@@AndyTaylorprinter
Thank you for your reply.
Our apologies for the rather lengthy comment....but needed by way of clarification.
The abridged version would read-
`We charge you £1,000 for every ANSWER to each of your questions, please and thank you`
(be polite, it makes for best-business-practice)
Hope this shortened version helps.
They have vowed, a long, long time ago, to be our enemies, which is sad. You know this goes back to the days of the Peeler's, the Peelers protecting the rich, that is why they actually came about, and hauling the poor into the courts on charges that were so petty they were pathetic. Officers would steal from those whom they found on the street had slumped down onto the pavement, go through their pockets. The saying, "Ask a police man," in regard to finding out the time, was from this, that officers would steal watches from drunks.
And I bet you that was all because you dared to get in front of them from the traffic lights.
Jesus it would take the cops all day to get 100 metres if they stopped every road user just because they feel like it.
"Has the police annoyed you before?"
What's the chances of the any motorist answering No?
Here you are, no!
Yep just as we thought. And in less than 3days.
I am a motorbike driver for 45 years now and, no, they never have.
@@Kenny-lbaum Same here .Being a motorcycle user means it is so easy to get away from them
Like he said not even an apology for waisting his time . And the attitude from them stinks he's right never trust these bastard's. If the can find a charge they'll invent one
Wholeheartedly agree! I was always told to say “I don’t answer questions”. They’re looking for you to incriminate yourself. You’re better off saying nothing at all. You are legally obliged to provide your details & that’s it!
Yes thank you, I also think if I'm firm with them but not lippy just making sure they are clear in what they say to me, they are more likely to move on to a softer target that is less likely to fight any invoice they might choose to issue 🤣
May we politely suggest the following de-escalation for remedy?
THE TRUST IS COLLAPSED....in other words, your company is no longer granting them any more credit.
If the policeman is not lawfully investigating the crime on behalf of the male/female victim and is entering YOUR company jurisdiction without you summonsing them, then would it not be advisable to be politely placing YOUR public-servants/trustees under your notification that your company is charging £707 per hour/part-there-of for YOUR company time and also £717 for YOUR company performance?....and that any further communicating (verbal) and/ or corresponding (written) with your company, is with them accepting the terms & conditions of the commercial contract IN THE PRIVATE (the cop and their CHIEF and their POLICE UNION is now with PERSONAL liability.... because Notice-to-Agent-is-Notice-to-Principal....and also through JOINDER....and they also lose their qualified immunity)
This way, you are NOT resisting/refusing to obey/comply with their orders/demands/policy /questions, but instead, you are now willing to perform WITH THE CONDITION that payment is with your company immediately, because you have NO CONFIDENCE with them administrating YOUR company trust!
THE PUBLIC TRUST IS COLLAPSED...Why is YOUR company issuing them extra credit! Are YOU not the executor and the beneficiary of YOUR trust?...making them the trustees, whom are with their fiduciary obligation and duty-of-care to be NOT causing you injury nor damage nor loss nor harm.
Is THEIR job YOUR job? Is THEIR company policy YOUR company policy?
not unless and until they are PAYING for your company time & performance
THE CONSTRUCTIVE TRUST IS COLLAPSED...YOUR company is no longer performing free-of-charge!
You may be willing to pursue the matter through the small-claims-court and/or through arbitration which is held in-the-private because PUBLIC court is only for the PUBLIC servant.
YOUR TRUST FUND IS NOW WITH RESTORATION....YOUR company now making money from every encounter with YOUR public-servants because the days of doing something with your trustees for free are over.
PS-Be the BUSINESS man with the public-servants.....NOT the victim.
This will involve SOME talking to the police.....for YOUR benefit.
@Deane Minister And asking the cops to repeat everything they say but louder and clearer as I need it for the audio quality on the two gopro's recording them seems to wind the cops up even more 🤣🤣🤣
The pigs go round in twos,one to read and one to write
I've never been anti police but they've definitely changed my opinion over the last 12 months through their actions. Corrupt, part of the establishment and very poor characters.
Agreed. I'm always polite and courteous, as in the past that has resulted in me getting off on things that they COULD have charged me for, and for which I was guilty.
20 mins for a document check seems excessive. They usually only take a few moments with me.
But I don't trust the bastards either.
I used to run a transport company and got stopped so often I folded the company and started selling t-shirts. Now the Police are confused. No Surprise there.
The Police Squad/Naked Gun theme was an inspired choice.
We used to call them pigs. Now its an insult to pigs. What a shame.
Your comment to record EVERY interaction with Police is worth it's weight in gold.
As Billy Connolly once said, "There is no greater relief than seeing a Bobby's arse"
I once stopped near a car and police came over told me it was my car and started checking all sorts of details about the car I didn't own and had told them I did not own. They then said I was intentionally not opening the car to allow them access to it. The owner of the car eventually come over as we were all around his car and I was told I apparently wasted police time.
Beans on Toast. Just come across this clip and watched/loved it. All I can say is I totally agree 100000000000000000% what more can I say other than I now have subscribed to your channel.
steven howard .. 👍
the story you told was the reason why you were stopped and I am sure more stops will happen, it is intimidation pure and simple.
"I'm not here for a discussion, just do your job." 👏👏👏👏👌👌. Bravo sir. I could not have put it any better if I'd tried.
Straight to the point, ''Dont trust those BASTARDS'' that made me chuckle lol
Stopped you for a documents check 'papers', but quoted the wrong act when asking for your 'papers'
Why does 1 square mile in the middle of London require its own police force?
Well in the UK our largest revenue earner is not manufacturing it is money laundering, which is centred around the City Of London, which is administered by the cooperation of London and so they control the city police which are also a cooperation used to protect the money launders at all cost.
That's my simplified explanation of the City Of London 😂
Whenever the topic of bad policing comes up, people usually say 'its just a case of a few bad apples' but the expression is not:-
'A few bad apples are really annoying'
or
'One bad apple makes the others look bad'
the saying goes:-
"One bad apple SPOILS the bunch"
Thats why farmers get rid of bad apples, they dont defend bad apples, they dont give bad apples promotions, they dont let bad apples take early retirement with full pensions. They throw them out to protect the good ones.
If police departments want the respect of the public, they have to earn it by showing us they actually care about their product. until then, its perfectly reasonable to assume the whole barrel is spoiled and the farmer doesnt care!
Beans On Toast ..... With you completely on EVERYTHING you said in the video, as a fellow motorcyclist since 1966 ... still riding!
These coppers were dim. Firstly, the copper asked you to "raise your visor" after looking at the picture on your driving licence. Soon afterwards, he asks you to remove your helmet and when asked to confirm that this is what he wants, he acts as if he'd already asked you to do that. He hadn't. His attitude stinks ... clearly not the sharpest knife in the drawer.
Then, he quotes section 163 of the RTA when asking you to produce your documents. Wrong again ... Section 163 does not require you to produce your documents. Here is Section 163 of the RTA. Nowhere does it say that this section requires you to produce your documents. He should be quoting the correct section ... too dim to know that it seems. He's clearly a halfwit who is in the wrong job.
*163Power of police to stop vehicles.*
(1)A person driving a [F1mechanically propelled vehicle] on a road must stop the vehicle on being required to do so by a constable in uniform [F2or a traffic officer].
(2)A person riding a cycle on a road must stop the cycle on being required to do so by a constable in uniform [F3or a traffic officer].
(3)If a person fails to comply with this section he is guilty of an offence.
(4)F4. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
Textual Amendments
F1
Words in s. 163(1) substituted (1.7.1992) by Road Traffic Act 1991 (c. 40, SIF 107:1), s. 48, Sch. 4 para. 67; S.I. 1992/1286, art. 2, Sch.
F2
Words in s. 163(1) inserted (E.W.) (4.10.2004 for E. and 1.5.2009 for W.) by Traffic Management Act 2004 (c. 18), ss. 6(4), 99 (with s. 38); S.I. 2004/2380, art. 2(a); S.I. 2009/1095, art. 2(a)
F3
Words in s. 163(2) inserted (E.W.) (4.10.2004 for E. and 1.5.2009 for W.) by Traffic Management Act 2004 (c. 18), ss. 6(4), 99 (with s. 38); S.I. 2004/2380, art. 2(a); S.I. 2009/1095, art. 2(a)
F4
S. 163(4) inserted (1.10.2002) by Police Reform Act 2002 (c. 30), s. 49(1)(3); S.I. 2002/2306, art. 2(d)(iv) and subsequently repealed (1.1.2006) by Serious Organised Crime and Police Act 2005 (c. 15), ss. 111, 174(2), 178, Sch. 7 para. 27(3), Sch. 17 Pt. 2; S.I. 2005/3495, art. 2(1)(m)(u) (subject to art. 2(2))
Modifications etc. (not altering text)
C1
S. 163: power to extend conferred by Road Traffic Regulation Act 1984 (c. 27, SIF 107:1), s. 96(2)(c)(ii)(3) (as amended by Road Traffic (Consequential Provisions) Act 1988 (c. 54, SIF 107:1), s. 4, Sch. 3 para. 25(6)(b)(7)(a))
Finally, no courtesy shown at the end of the stop ... any decent and respectful person in that job would have said words to the effect of, thanks for your cooperation, sorry to have delayed you, please carry on.
Creeps!
I think that's very impressive that you have such a long history of riding and thanks for the detailed comment.
I guess you saw what I was doing with the police by being very clear with them in getting them to state what they wanted in case I decided later to escalate the matter. The overall intelligence of police recruits continues to drop year on year so any interaction with them should be recorded for protection and they have very vague memories of events.
@@BeansOnToast_YT I liked the way you said you'd follow him ... that was smart. Knowing how low some of them are prepared to stoop, it wouldn't surprise me if he'd given you a ticket for stopping in that cycle lane like he did!
@@BeansOnToast_YT There was a situation back in the 90's when I was on my way home from work in Camden Town, on my BMW R100. There were two lanes, both full of very long lines of stationary traffic. I passed the queuing traffic in the offside of the two lanes and then came to a stop behind a line of motorcycles doing the same but they weren't moving. There was a motorcycle cop holding them up ahead, and for no reason.
I waited for the traffic to start moving during one of the changes of the traffic lights, which were some way ahead and managed to get my pretty large bike in between the traffic in the nearside lane and the kerb ... I slowly got past the copper and then managed to resume my position to the offside position and then ride the 100 or so yards to the head of the queue at the red traffic signal. The copper on the bike rode up and stopped alongside me in the opposite carriageway and he said, "undertaking is an endorsable offence!"
I knew the lights were about to change so I asked him to pull up beyond the lights. He did ... and I then asked him to repeat what he had said. He repeated it and I then said, "No it isn't at all ... nothing at all illegal about passing traffic on the inside ... I've been doing it since the 1960's!"
He tried to stand his ground and I suggested if I had broken the law, then he should give me a ticket but I added that I couldn't see what he would write on it as to what the offence was, as there was no law which stated that "undertaking" was an offence.
He said, "Well .... there was nobody injured on this occasion so we'll let it go!" ...He then rode off. What a sad individual ... lying to a member of the public because I had annoyed him by not allowing him to hold me up .... and then not having the balls to admit he was wrong!
@@thepianoman1010 Yes bang on that was my thinking.
@@thepianoman1010 Typical, and all too often when they first stop you they ask you if you know what you did wrong. A stupid question I assume to get you to incriminate yourself.
All because you had the audacity to pull away in front of them!!!....its these type of police officers that gets all a bad rep
COMMON LAW (Law of the land) - upheld by a police constable.
No one is above common law, and those in breach of common law will be tried in a common law court before a jury of their peers.
There must be a victim in common law and they do not need your name, as the victim and/or witnesses will point you out as being the perpetrator.
Common law -
1 - You cannot hurt anyone
2 - You cannot steal anyone's property
3 - You cannot damage anyone's property
4 - You cannot defraud anyone
5 - You cannot commit breach of the peace towards anyone
6 - You cannot commit treason (or sedition), towards the crown.
And that's common law ☝️, that's it and NOTHING ELSE.
ACTS AND STATUTES OF PARLIAMENT (Commercial law, contract law, law of the sea, admiralty law) - upheld by a police officer.
Only applies to certain groups (Road Traffic Act applies to drivers of vehicles etc) and needs your consent to enforce it, of which they will try to get using legalease ("Do you understand" - meaning do you 'under stand' ((stand under)) my authority).
They need your name to issue fines and court dates,
(as "Mr Hate crime" can't point you out in court - and no court usher ever shouts out "Occupier to court one"),
You are the only one who can give or confirm your name, so NEVER give it.
Your answer to every question should be -
"I retain my common law right to remain silent"
Your answer to every request should be -
"I don't want to do anything you tell me to do, but I will do because I feel threatened by you" (They always "ask you" to do something rather than 'tell you' because then you've accepting their authority), and it's VERY important that people don't fall for the "Do you want to" etc etc, because this is where they will trap you.
Q - "What's your name?"
A - "I retain my common law right to remain silent"
Q - "What's your address?"
A - "I retain my common law right to remain silent"
Q - "If you don't tell me you'll be arrested"
A - "I retain my common law right to remain silent"
Q - "Well I'm arresting you blah blah blah, 'do you understand'?"
A - "No I do not stand under your authority"
Q - "Ok well do you want to come this way"
A - "I don't want to do anything you tell me to do, but I will do because I feel threatened by you"
And before anyone points out that they can get your name from a driving license or passport etc, those are fraudulent documents created from a birth certificate that clearly states across the bottom -
"A certificate is not evidence of identity".
Let's not forget that the first thing a police constable says to you when he/she arrests you is -
"You do not have to say anything",
Because, believe it or not -
YOU DON'T.
You do NOT have to speak to a police constable.
You do NOT have to speak to the desk sergeant at the police station.
You do NOT have to have a police interview.
You do NOT have to attend court.
Exercise your God given inalienable common law rights, they're yours and cannot be taken away by anyone, especially by some police officer using his/her uniform to commit treason and fraud by acting as a government bailiff.
Police constables swear an oath before God to serve the Monach and protect people and property. They DO NOT swear an oath to protect the government.
They swear their oath raising their right hand, and if they went against their oath in a court, they would receive two years for perjury.
Hi Mr Beans, just watched your video and I’ve became a fan right away. Your comments about the police establishment are spot on. Especially this particular one. They worked for the establishment not for the people. That’s why the people are angry and out on the streets at the moment. Well done sir.
hey Mr beans, glad you stood your ground and happy to see your safe, ride safe my friend :)
Thanks White Paws, you too 👍
'I don't understand why you're being so angry, have the police annoyed you in the past'?
Do bears shit in the woods?
I've made it to 2:44 first thing I'd suggest is that asking your name while just stopped at a red light doesn't seem like the best idea, secondly the place they did stop looks like a bad choice, a short stretch between two junctions. Thirdly they stopped you in a bike lane with a solid white line which means vehicles 'must not' enter, I imagine the police making a traffic stop are exempt from this but in that case he should have put his lights on to indicate to others that they are stopped.
That's mistake you made by handing your licence over , you don't need to hand it over because when you do they can keep you there as long as they like, never hand it over , let them look at it and rake details off it ; but never hand it over
2:40 Lets park over there in that cycle lane with the solid line. Because hey' why not!!!!!! 😡
As the founder of modern democratic policing, Sir Robert Peel said,
" The police are the public and the public are the police. Consent comes from the knowledge that your police officers are impartial and accountable for their actions."
Your honesty is awesome, your description of these things(can’t think of a better word to describe them without swearing) is spot on.
Absolutely agree, tell them nothing at all, they are usually fishing for something and hoping you will drop yourself in it somehow... It has been a very very long time since anyone trusted or respected them, and for good reason. Stay well
May we politely suggest the following de-escalation for remedy?
THE TRUST IS COLLAPSED....in other words, your company is no longer granting them any more credit.
If the policeman is not lawfully investigating the crime on behalf of the male/female victim and is entering YOUR company jurisdiction without you summonsing them, then would it not be advisable to be politely placing YOUR public-servants/trustees under your notification that your company is charging £707 per hour/part-there-of for YOUR company time and also £717 for YOUR company performance?....and that any further communicating (verbal) and/ or corresponding (written) with your company, is with them accepting the terms & conditions of the commercial contract IN THE PRIVATE (the cop and their CHIEF and their POLICE UNION is now with PERSONAL liability.... because Notice-to-Agent-is-Notice-to-Principal....and also through JOINDER....and they also lose their qualified immunity)
This way, you are NOT resisting/refusing to obey/comply with their orders/demands/policy /questions, but instead, you are now willing to perform WITH THE CONDITION that payment is with your company immediately, because you have NO CONFIDENCE with them administrating YOUR company trust!
THE PUBLIC TRUST IS COLLAPSED...Why is YOUR company issuing them extra credit! Are YOU not the executor and the beneficiary of YOUR trust?...making them the trustees, whom are with their fiduciary obligation and duty-of-care to be NOT causing you injury nor damage nor loss nor harm.
Is THEIR job YOUR job? Is THEIR company policy YOUR company policy?
not unless and until they are PAYING for your company time & performance
THE CONSTRUCTIVE TRUST IS COLLAPSED...YOUR company is no longer performing free-of-charge!
You may be willing to pursue the matter through the small-claims-court and/or through arbitration which is held in-the-private because PUBLIC court is only for the PUBLIC servant.
YOUR TRUST FUND IS NOW WITH RESTORATION....YOUR company now making money from every encounter with YOUR public-servants because the days of doing something with your trustees for free are over.
PS-Be the BUSINESS man with the public-servants.....NOT the victim.
This will involve SOME talking to the police....for YOUR benefit.
Years ago, a girlfriend was destroying my windscreen wipers and wing mirrors; I reversed to get the hell out of dodge and unknowingly ran over her foot, she got me arrested, and the police did everything they could to PERSUADE me to plead guilty to common assault, I refused, so they let me go, no further action.
What a pair of idiot's they started the stupidity by pulling him over for nothing in the first place, and if he is discussing your details on that radio in the open to the public hearing then he is breaking your confidentiality rights
Excellent job, exactly how it's done. I've been riding for 40 years and never met a copper that's my friend, even though they try and act like they are.
Well said mate. I wouldn't trust any of them either
*A "COPINAL" (Cop+criminal: TYRANT):*
*1. ´A bent cop who makes up his own laws and rules and is prone*
*to violence when you, the LAW ABIDING CIVILIAN shows resistance*
*to his unlawful and unreasonable commands and unlawful demands´.*
*2. ´A criminal police officer with a badge and a gun and no honour´*
*(A liar and an oath-breaker is not honourable, police are allowed to lie).*
*3. ´A bent police officer, not only bent but one who is also uppity, in*
*other words a lousy servant, a tyrant.*
*4. ´A police officer who is ready to do you the LAW ABIDING CIVILIAN*
*violence ´just because he feels like it´.*
*5. A police officer who meddles in YOUR LAWFUL BUSINESS AND*
*LAWFUL DAILY ACTIVITIES (a ´Copinal´ busy-body).*
*6. ´A wive beater who takes his frustration and anger out on the public.*
*He knows there are limits to how many times he can assault and*
*batter his own wive and his kids in a week´s time, so he*
*takes his sadism out on the innocent public to get "relief"´.*
*7. ´A cowardly weasel/hyena who hides behind a badge a gun and*
*his buddies and has learned just enough self-defense tactics in the*
*police academy to do harm to the innocent public which he loathes*
*and which he blames for his own cowardliness and lack of manhood´.*
*"COPINAL" can mean ´PSYCHO´ (cop), ´UPPITY´ (cop), ´TYRANT´,*
*´CROOKED´, ´SADIST´, ´GASLIGHTER´, ´LIAR´ and much more.*
I have had my own similar experiences.Whenever people say that we have the best police force in the world (which used to be said a lot until recently) I always realise immediately that these people have never had any dealings with the police and won't have their eyes open until they do.
This again is an example of the attitude of the current police officers.
Just by the way they walked over you could immediately tell that power had come rushing to their heads.
No reason given for the stop but the public have to be courteous to police but it certainly does not work the other way.
Bobbies were great in times gone by but now we have these characters that bully, lie and intimidate.
The guy was politely asked his name, gave a smart reply so they wasted 20 minutes of his time. Maybe they didn't like the way he thought he had the right to weave in and out of traffic and pull on the outside of cars straddling the central white line - it's there for a reason.
I loved every second of this video.
@@lincolnlad8875 missing the whole point, I just can't be bothered to explain
I had to rewind it back just to make sure I heard you right. You get falsely arrested at your workplace. dragged down to a police station, end up spending a few hours in a cell, get integrated and bullied and you did nothing about it. if your story was true. Then you are a mug and deserve everything you got. Why would that copper not think twice about doing what he did to you to someone else? you let him off scot-free. no reprimand nothing. he got his way in the end.
I'd just be inclined to give my name so anything else can be seen as excessive. Police in the old days probably were thugs, however today they are kids who've just left school with no real world experience.
So it’s ok for a cop to crowd into your lane, just to say what’s your name?
That’s dangerous driving.
Damn it Beans, stop getting into trouble, minding your own business on a city street is bound to get you in trouble. By the way, that's one fine mural!
Hi Maderyne, yes I like that wall art too, think it's quite a new one as it was the first time I noticed it, it's up in Camden.
If only they could have shown some decorum. ;)
Brilliant, and thank you 🤣🤣🤣
Decorum is what you do to apples before you bake them.
Good on ya B.O.T. 👍👍 Their backbone fell apart when Protestors were vandalising the Cenotaph, Churchills monument and other landmarks, yet when they see a law observing rider they attempt to show their competence. Perhaps I'm wrong, and if so someone correct me, but don't the Filth require a reason for the stop, to then ask for your documents?
No they dont, to check documents u just need to be on the road and operating a vehicle. (Edit) not passengers, they need a reason for their documents.
Funny you should mention the protests, I saw the veterans round the back of horseguards on their way to protect the cenotaph. I wanted to warn them it was a trap, but I don't think they would have changed plans. Now there are a number of videos made by veterans telling of how abusive and disgusting the met police were towards them that day. It was an education for some of them I think, but they know where they stand now.
@@BeansOnToast_YT No mate, the blokes would have continued to show their support for those past heroes and what the monuments stand for. Of course there was some numpty's that hit the Ale hard and did some silly stuff but 99% of them were there for the right reasons, and if the Fith were attacked by mobs, would have got stuck in to defend them. . Of course they were then branded Left wing, Right wing, Brown wing, etc. I work with blokes that are ex Job, and they can't tolerate the attitudes and lack of backbone of modern day policing
@@AS-yc3yy Thanks for that AS, I would have mentioned it if it'd happened to me, and of course not taken it as fact, if their response was "they are allowed"
@@bikemenace2145 if you need anymore information you can look up the road traffic act and PACE which outlines the laws about it easily available on google or government website 👍
163 is the power to stop. 164 is the power to request driving licence and DoB. 165 is the power to request name and addresses, insurance and other related docs.
The PLOD always annoy. Dumb question
Very sad that on anyone's "word" you can be arrested and embarrassed in front of others.
There’s some great officers and some terrible ones…Difficult job… When you see the USA videos, thank your lucky stars…
He said 163 road traffic act he can ask for your driving license etc 163 gives them power to stop you.
They only did it because you overtook them at the lights. Pure crappy policing with nothing better to do. The trouble is there is better things to be doing like catching criminals
The police have to deal with some right idiots.
Shame they can't do their job properly
theres no law that says that body coverings have to be removed. And that was very wise to insist that the police go first, if you went first some police will say you tried to get away, or you stopped somewhere unsafe.
Mate. Stumbled across your channel via this vid. (Handled like a pro) . Ended up watching your observations ALL night. Thanks... Restored my Faith. Jaw hurts. ..
That bloke is an absolute Berkeley Hunt. 💯
This is exactly how I interact with "them" 😉😉
I had issues with the met police never trust any of them
The statement " I don't answer questions" is there favourite 😂
That is fine but don't push your luck or they will look for any excuse to hold you back longer or even arrest you. I got pulled many years ago with two friends in my car, I just gave them what they asked and they done their checks. They then turned their attention to the one friend giving them lip, he ended up being searched having property taken from him (a pocket knife and other small items), he was close to getting pinched because he 'couldn't' keep it shut.
Another mate more recently had the shit kicked out of him with batons, breaking his hand in the process, he was offering out about four officers but not going for them, but they went way to far to arrest him, for nothing probably. But when he was beaten by lads with a hammer, they did not even look for them even though it happened not far from the city station that he went straight to with a bloodied head. TBF he does have a lot of bad luck with people and the Police, has done his whole life, so of course his attitude is not great when Police are about.
Illegal stop, if they had checked their record and found an issue, then pulling him over would be lawfull, but they hadn't as we can see that they checked after the stop. You're marked on the on the sytem to be pulled over (intimidation) because they couldn't nick you for the theft of the wallet. Little unknow fact is that, if you report an office to the local magistrates, then the magistrate must summons and question the officer in regaurds to the complaint. This also goes on the officers record. They couldn't even get the correct section of the road trafic act. 163 is stop only, and 164 is for driving licence and 165 are for details (but not date of birth) during a stop
Thanks for sharing this obnoxious experience with the police. Why did they do it? Well, as the officer says; because they can. Cool helmet BTW.
Narcissists, by their very nature are drawn to police as a career. The things they love...power and control are irresistible to them. It's very apparent by viewing these sorts of videos that there is a very high percentage of them. Very rarely see a copper who isn't a raving narcissist. The smug, superior look on their faces and the way they speak to people makes them very easy to spot.
Absolutely agree with you @Beans On Toast . As a retire Canadian Truck Driver i retired JUST before the new (KNOBS) of police all came on the Scene. The change from "Freindly out to serve the Public" to "Paranoid Twits With Guns" is plain to see. Im not sure where this paranoia is coming from, but Im hoping it will stop before to much unrepairable damage to the public has been done(and thats not far off)
I agree with you. I have no time for the police and they earn the hate.
Don't tell them anything just let them check you plates they have no reason just to check you for no crime 💯
WTH!? Asking for your name in live traffic? As for the stop, at any point did they formally identify themselves or even tell you they were recording you, as part of their policy? You handled it really well and as always great advice when being confronted by the tyrants in blue.
Thanks, you could tell they weren't used to that response, but why should I be happy for them to use up my time whilst they are being paid, it's not as if they show any interest or even competence when one of my bikes gets stolen. Surely they must have some selfies to take in front of a dead body or some pensioners to knock over.
@@BeansOnToast_YT I have never known a police officer to act professionally or know exactly what they are doing, whilst giving directives. They are a sick bunch of individuals who will always back each other up, unless the line of decency has either been crossed or found to have been crossed. As you ride in the places I normally take pictures, please don't be surprised if you suddenly hear "Beans on Toast!" coming from the sea of tourists, lol.
@@hemedia7082 Sure thing, funny you should say that as yesterday I was waiting at the lights outside the London scientology HQ and this bloke was stood in the doorway and started taking photos of me then put his thumbs up and walked on. Now I'm a bit twitchy around that tax dodging cult as I was once helping film a documentary outside what was their celebrity building in the west end and it wasn't long before the scientology lot reacted, they really don't like cameras. It was only after yesterdays photographer walked off I clicked that the poor sod was just sheltering from the rain in the cults doorway. He probably didn't even know what the building was. So please don't be surprised if I mistake you for a cult member 😂
I didn’t know the Gestapo is now living strong in the UK.
Wow..its pretty obvious..lol
Bruised egos?- don’t trust the police and don’t talk to them.
I am not anti-police and don't understand why anyone would make their life hard by being belligerent with them. Just cooperate and be on your way. Only criminals need worry about the police. I do agree however, with your comment about police being "childish". I have found this a lot and always wondered why that is. I went to school with a boy who became a policeman. He wasn't "bullied" by my standards, though by today's standards he probably was. He had slightly big cheeks and his surname was Farrow so people would call him Farrow the Marrow head. I think this possibly contributed to him becoming a policeman. I think we need cops - and on the whole I think they do a decent job. Can't be easy - not today when many people are against them.
Are you white ?
@@fancyboi82 yeah, and I hear what you are saying but even so - black or white - cooperating is a must. We do need police. Without them it just wouldn't work. Well not in the UK where we don't even have guns.
The circus is missing a couple of clowns.
This is terrifying
There's no such thing as a routine stop - think about it, you'd see them stopping everyone everywhere at random. Police need a reason for such stops and they didn't have one.
Hes driving a motor vehicle on a public highway, they can stop anyone doing such like, try educating yourself.
I repeat - there's no such thing as a routine stop. Tell me where they appear in law.
@@jackking5567 He was stopped for a document check, which was explained to him, he even further explained what section of legislation that falls under. Google it.
I'm still waiting to hear what legislation that is. Police need reasonable grounds to conduct such a stop. A failed light bulb would be an example. If this rider did nothing wrong then this stop by police is classed as harassment.
One year on, this is a brilliant video with brilliant advice
you never have to speak to them at all you have to GIVE them your details carry a piece of paper with your name and address and date of birth and never speak to them
it goes "you have the right to remain silent" that is all you need to know
Feel the training has changed big time over the years.
Of course the training have changed especially the fitness all these police today are over weight slobs
You would be horrified to see just what is going on. You may, or may not know, that those who apply to become police officers, today, are as thick as a piece of three by two, and what is more some are mentally unstable, the latter I find unbelievable, but true as I know of a police officer who has sever brain injury, is not exactly on the planet. I was once speaking to an ex senior Home Office official and he remarked that they had to reduce the entrance test, make it easier, and even then most persons failed, only to resit, fail, resit, fail, and eventually pass, and this is before having to learn the law, and procedure. The candidates are generally also lazy in the physical sphere, and so many obese it is offensive to see. We have an increasing band of moronic people, in black jump suits on our streets, and increasing because government want an army of officers to contain the people, government not wanting to put the army on the streets for the pending civil war
Never give these bastards your driving licence, even if you have it on you. Never answer their questions.
Have you thought about following them after they’ve stopped you just to wind them up?
I have friends who are retired policemen, one who has sadly passed was a royal security officer, another an undercover officer who was stabbed in the back in a foreign country whilst at work, all in all they total about 8 men. 3 of whom left before retirement age because they could not accept the way the force was degenerating, and were genuinely concerned at the quality of leadership and quality of recruits, others amongst the group often make comments of how the police force has slipped from being respected to being hated by the general public, something they are very critical of remarking how things were so different when they were serving, there is only one left actually in the job and he can’t wait until he is eligible for his pension so he can retire. Those two arrogant thugs that stopped you would appear to support the remarks made by my friends. They actually looked disappointed when they realised there was nothing they could do to you. Well handled by you. B******s perfect adjective for them.
Funny how a little authority goes to their head 🙄
It's the Milgram experiment every time. I say put the voltage on max and fry the buggers to a crisp 🤣🤣🤣
The current police officers are mainly Macdonalds rejects ,couldn’t make it at flipping burgers .
I loved your ´outro´, nice friendly and personal touch,
the American´s are always so ´abrupt´ about these
things in their videos.
What are the highway code filtering rules on a single lane?
Has the law changed? The police should have picked a place on the road that was safe and Legal to stop... I continued once for half a mile as there were constant double yellow lines, ( they only wanted to escort me to a ministry checkpoint), but they were flashing their emergency lights( should only be used in an emergency 🤔) and attempting to force me to stop! I carried on until it was safe to stop... when I did the police officer went mad as I didn't stop straight away... he said noone had Ever done that! I said obviously they hadn't read the highway code... I followed him to the checkpoint.. then took the pervebial out of them too... you have to laugh at their incompetence!
What camera setup you using thanks.
The camera on the helmet is a Sony FDR-X3000
www.sony.co.uk/electronics/actioncam/fdr-x3000-body-kit
I have never carried my D/license or insurance in 50 years of driving…never
Routine stops are so that they can check that you will capitulate to their aurthority and be all yes sir, three bags full sir. The trigger here was that you had the temerity to pull up along side them and get in front at the lights. Meanwhile, during them carrying out this vital, important police work, people are being robbed, raped, attacked and trying to report it, but the control centre won't be able to send any cops because they are hassling people with roadside stop checks.
Smirking jobsworths
163 of the road traffic act only allows them to stop you, nothing more than the stop no Id check no searches. 164 is that you must show id. So when I get stopped and ask them what traffic act they are stopping me for if they say 163 ( they all say this) I point out that 163 is only to stop me and if they want my id I need the correct traffic act
any one who has dealt with coppers in any shape or form knows this to be true. it's sad for the coppers them selves to start with ( although there's some that are filth from the start.) i reckon most of 'em get shaped/manipulated in to being that way. i had a bike in the 70's. got stopped all the time. glad to say, a lot of 'em do'nt last long...na then.
I was stopped 7 times in 2 weeks back in the 1970's on my old lambretta. Have had no faith in the plod ever since then but they are too thick to realise why.