Stealth Shelters - Where, When, and Why? | ON Three
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- Опубліковано 25 лип 2021
- Today, Alan Kay is teaching Elijah where to build a poncho shelter, why that decision is made, and how to build the shelter. Ideally, your shelter will be off the beaten path where it will be easier to remain undetected.
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I was a trainer in the military. Take two ponchos. Double up and Setup as you do. The one will cover you and the other separates you from ground moisture and bugs.
I'm not going anywhere without my Thermalrest mattress LOL
this^^ piece of advice
Yes, you will need some kind of waterproof ground cloth, for less than ideal conditions.
@@tomhickman1006 i usually never go out alone so having two ponchos is not unavailable. I have a very small sterno heater that i can use inside and vent through the hood of the poncho. Very little light and no smoke.
You shouldn't plan on having someone and their equipment, to prevent you from getting hypothermia.
Individuals get separated, for a number of reasons, you are responsible for your survival.
Every enviornment is different, so your EDC should adapt to the situation.
This young man is going to be a beast with this knowledge that he's being given. I love to see young people wanting to learn USEFUL life teaching things. Great job guys
Us young guys appreciate the knowledge more than you’d think
@@redimage4255 and girls In my case anyways, I've come to the conclusion that I am the exception rather than the rule though.
In my previous employment, I used to hunt for illegal camp sites in the woods. The one thing that made them stand out were solid colors and perfect edges.
What country and what corporation\department was that for man?
I mean I am not from the US but sounds like a park rangers job
Why in the world would someone camping in the woods be illegal? What is the point of having a forest if people can't use it and enjoy it. As taxpayers, forest belong to the people, not the government. The purpose of government is to represent the people, not rule over them and dictate what they can and can't do, within the law. It should be unlawful to prevent the people from using public lands that belong to the people. The taxpayers own the land and by God they have every right to use it. Our government has no right to infringe upon the rights of citizens. We need to clean up our government, restore our freedoms, get rid of unjust laws, remove corrupt officials, and have minimal government that stay out of people's lives and doesn's infringe on their rights and freedoms. Of course we need laws but unjust laws should be done away with. I'm sick of government trying to rule over and control people's lives and I damn sure believe that public lands belong to the people and everyone should have the right to use public lands. I do think laws against poaching and things that damage the forest for everyone are ok.
@@billbarrett6285 Because in the US, everything is owned by someone, and they all want to monetize everything.
@@Zeppathy Oh, you mean like Yellowstone, Appalachian trail, Yosemite, Grand Canyon, et al?
Nice to see someone teaching basics, to younger generation, Taught my kids both by the age of eight the basics, now at ages 16 an 17 they could survive in the woods under any circumstances , but have lived off grid all our lives. Peaceful life style
Mine is 4 now can't wait until he is six to start teaching him all of the basics until then I'll be patient with him growing up
Good story
I spent years in the woods between the ages of 12-18 before the off-to-college. It was my favorite place to be. I would go out alone and stay overnight by myself and skulk around. Before the days of paintball, we’d buy crates of eggs and play egg wars. We wore camo, face paint, old surplus, and I’ve seen all kind of animals and weird crap in the middle of nowhere. I can’t even explain to people nowadays how much I learned on my own and with my friends. But this video reminds me so much of those days, just playing around and learning first hand by experimenting and trying different stuff. Love this video.
I remember a section of dead woods where we could push rotted trees down at one another. :)
The car out in the middle of the woods we just called the shooting car.
Damn I miss the days before having to work forty just to keep from being homeless.
Yes. Me too.... Was lucky enough to know people and have 1000s of acres of river bottoms in W KY..... I'd take my Winchester 22, buck knife, and sometimes fishing gear.....and have a blast. By myself or with buddy's..... sometimes in an old Monkey Ward aluminum canoe.... Teaching myself just how things really were..... I feel really bad for the kids nowadays. It's going be tough on them if something ever happens to take away our way of life.
We played capture the flag....that usually turned into a rock fight....that turned into an impromptu rendition of the movie bloodsport. Kids these days don't even know the lengths that we went through to hide injuries so that we wouldn't be "thrown in the gulag" by mom. Haha best of times
@@fukemnukem1525 it's kinda like we could all just come up with a new set of rules where we don't all need to do dumb stuff all day just to have a roof over our heads.
We made the rules up once long ago, we can just do it again, ya know?
@@fukemnukem1525 this right here, we've become so displaced about where our food comes from and how to take care of ourselves. I get more afraid for my families future every passing day.. I know some but not near enough.
Don't forget when checking the ground for the sticks to keep an eye out for Fire Ants. Sleeping on a Fire Ant Hill is not good!
Nature is the ultimate classroom when you have a great teacher. Its amazing how fast a day can go by doing this sort of stuff.
Absolutely love this. Tactical training for the younger generation is extremely important. We never know what is going to happen & it's much better to be prepared than screwed.
especially right now, this info is invaluable. shtf situation getting more likely by the day.
@@twistedxvengeance Abso-fucking-lutely!!
Super duper stealthy ninja training with the infamous Alan Kay. Win win.
I love he's not just teaching him what to do but how to THINK, adapt and to improvise!
invaluable life skill in every circumstance.
You don't do this for comfort, you do this to live another day.
100%
sleep here, until you have to pee, then pack it up and get moving again.
this ain't no hotel, son.
@@diligentsun1154 quick beat, back on me feetz, n' back on the highway
@@diligentsun1154 quick beat, back on me feetz, n' back on the highway
Nice to see a young man show intrest and learn some important skills.
Yes and Elijah seems like a good young man.
Alan is a wealth of knowledge. Like his teaching approach. Good video guys.
I agree.
Yes
Outstanding
I wish someone would've taught me these things as a young one.
That is good stuff. I hope this young man grows up good.
Or a woman. My dad taught me " guy things" including cars. I'm also part nai, so that helps too. I feel more at ease out in the woods. No jewelry or high heels boys. Just surviving.
@@donnamccombs8882 - I enjoy natural women much more. Good for you.
Teaching the next generation. Very important
i really wish i had opportunities to learn from people like this growing up
Alan is my version of the combat Santa Claus I love watching your videos cuz every video there is a surprising present it's called knowledge keep them coming I'll keep on watching
This just feels like Appalachia and I love it
Netting, like actual camo netting or a “sniper veil” (that is spray painted), will help to get rid of that straight line and shadow. Attach it to the outside and hanging over the edge, and it’ll break up the shadow and straight line, but still allow you to see out.
Or at a minimum just get some of the nearby foliage and strategically place it to break up the lines.
I would go with Nick 👆 on that one. No extra kit to carry too.
A true old fashioned sniper veil was subdued woodland CAMO ("subdued" because the colors were weak and varied so it broke up the outline even better - also had a bit tighter Weave than a lot of commercial versions today). I wore one as a neck scarf/cravat for years when out in the boondocks. It is still in my "go bag". My typical warm to cool weather clothing was my old issue combat boots (nylon-leather OR all leather depending on season but N-L can work year round), wool or wool blend socks, basic pair of OD fatigue pants (OD or other subdued green or brown cargo pants would work), black or brown t-shirt, long sleeve green/brown/dark tan/camo shirt OR midweight black or earth tone (preferably wool - wool blend) sweater, canvas roll up (aka "boonie") hat, pants belt, utility belt, and that is it. I am one of those that wool never bothered, and I often wore my midweight black wool sweater as a shirt or base layer against my skin. It only itches if you get sweaty, and Marino wool doesn't itch even then.
@@andrewbrown6522 thats why I like military grade gear.
I use the polish lavvu (1 side) as my poncho and shelter, it's a bit bulkier but dam is that thing tough
Great vid. I’d add avoiding a direct track line to the site. Instead add a lateral/circular approach to lead would be pursuers into an ambush.
I think the video you're talking about is....
"How to kill elite assassins"
Alan can't reveal ALL his secrets in one video.
Maybe next week....
Love these poncho tutorials. What a versatile piece of kit they are. Add a poncho liner, and you're living like a king!
My poncho liner is the snugpak jungle bag. same weight and size but it's a real sleeping bag with a mosquito net for the face. combined with a SOL Escape Bivy and on a foam mat I was able to sleep in windy minus ~ -5°C / ~ 22°F after a hard day without food. That was a very good test, now I know what my kit can do for me. More than expected and planned :-)
This year Santa's packin' khukuris and ponchos. Get ready kids
Bet he knows just how to use them ,☠️
Everyone's naughty, let God sort em out
Allen Kay: primitive skills, self-reliance, homestead, all round outdoor encyclopedia and guru. Thanks.
I grew up on a small farm with several acres of woodlands, and I loved being in the woods. I taught our children, and am now teaching our grandchildren, how to hunt, gather, and generally enjoy the great outdoors.
I still enjoy being in the woods as much as I did 40 years ago
I watch out for serpents, too...the no-leggeds and the 2-leggeds. I would say that Elijah is a really lucky kid...learning-by-doing is the best teacher.
My wilderness innovations hammock poncho comes with me everywhere.
Man I love mine for a poncho it’s a hell of a hammock. Probably is about the most comfortable one I’ve been as of yet. Got the grey 45% woven Dyneema one.
Actually got another on order now the lightest weight one I’m awaiting to arrive well a. The beast an the osni stuff and the shelter base with poles.
Hard to beat something that works great an made in the US. I done ditched off the other hammock I had an a couple 1-2 person tents since I had the poncho from him.
Had to get the bug slider bug net to being in Louisiana. The only part of his stuff I didn’t care for much was the ultralight tarp to go over it. It’s made well an all. Just thought it was going to be a little wider than it was. It works. But would of been nicer with another foot on each side would of been better.
WI Tribe!The PSS is the most versatile piece of kit apart from a knife.
Definitely one of the best videos I have seen on stealth camping. During my hitchhiking days I did a lot of stealth camping with a 8×10 tarp from Walmart.
This is a great video! Really valuable ! Thank you! I went to Hawaii in the 90s and planned to camp. The first night we went to a beach that was fairly isolated. We set up our tent in a tucked in clearing behind a tree. That night, 5 trucks of Natives came out there looking for us. We saw them coming and went and hid way back in the lava beds. They never even found our tent. Later we learned that the natives liked to beat up whites. We also learned that they considered the location we chose for our tent as a restroom, so it didn’t occur to them to look there. That conditioning on their part is the only reason we survive that night. If they had seen our tent, they would have known we were still in the area and would have looked harder. We still camped for 6 months, but learned fast how important it is to hide.
I would like Alan to do the narration for my life story. Morgan Freeman has been fired.
He would be good doing audio books.
@@ferebeefamily 100% agree! I love and prefer audiobooks, but rarely buy them because I'm auditorily sensitive and also really hate the fake 'acting' that narrators too often use. If Alan narrated all of the books I'm interested in I would buy them.
Things have changed now Thermal cams are everywhere on choppers in your pocket you need mylar to help out. Also some trip wires around camp to stop sneaks.
Move underground asap and make your shelter look like a natural cave or failed structure from above ground scanners
ULCANS netting reduces infrared heat
This is a very good idea 👍
Alan Kay is a national treasure.
Jason is pretty good for chopped liver.... 🤣🤣🤣
when we fished as a kid, my step dad made us walk forever through briars, bushes, sticks whatever to get to the good fishing hole, I hated it, but good life lesson
My son and I really enjoyed this video.
By far the most practical youtube channel! I learn so much thank you for maybe saving my life 1 day!! Thank you for making it simple.
Very good, I like the way you teach.
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This brings back memories of vnam as a combat engineer working with inf and artillery we spent many nights in shelter s like this while taking turns standing watch
What I was taught about making brush blinds for hunting helps immensely. As with hunting noise is a factor. Fabric whip and ripple in a wind could be problematic.
man where has this channel been. good information. thank you
alan is the best
I thought i knew a lot ..now I know more.. great vid
I like this minimalist approach, but I still say, a simple bug net for the head at least can make such a huge difference.
Sleep is important, and up here in Canada, anything to keep them off your face and out of your ears will buy you valuable sleep.
The Russian gorka suit also has and inner layer in the pant leg which tucks into the boot, a tick trap and elastic wrists... if you put those together, you will keep most bugs out and it will make a huge difference.
Funny I had subscribed to your channel a while ago….. just finished watching some survivor show……and it’s you! The dude who was eating sea weed and little fishies out of a water bottle fish trap 😎😎😎😎🔥🔥🔥🔥and you won!!super cool!!!
So glad to find out you have a channel!! Loved watching you on Alone 😊💜
great video; Alan is awesome and humble.
Have always heard, if a tool only does one job it better be important. Good stuff guys!!!
Great ideas. I look forward to watching all your vids. 🤓👍👍
Glad to see that young man taking an interest in what you are doing. Thank you for the video.
THIS is excellent! Great job!!
Thanks for making this video
Alan is a wealth of wisdom and knowledge. I hope he comes back in the future to on 3 or survival dispatch.
I think this is a great teaching moment.
I have a large camo tarp and hammock, I do a walk round and move plants and Deadwood to block entrances and views of where I am camped,I also try to blend the top of the tarp edge with anything around to break up the hard line. And deadwood and leaves to hide the bottom of the to edge.
I also set up trip lines With bank line before dusk on areas I cannot see in the dark.
I still use a beer can with doors cut out with a teelight for lighting as from behind it's invisible and the amount of light it throws is ample for moving around but not harsh enough to be seen from a distance.
Great teaching video .Alan R
Great Video, If in a real situation Consider the Wind. Hikers have dogs and a domestic dog might not pay much attention to your scent trail, However, if you are laying 50-100 yards UpWind, you Will have unwanted guests. Sight is Most important to Humans, Scent/Wind direction is Most important to Animals. If a dog only smells where you walked, it probably won't alert its owner, but if it smells you directly, it will be a different story. What a great video.
Love your videos. Good info. Pack right pack light
Mud and dirt smeared and forced into exposed cuts or abrasions of limbs and trees will conceal and dampen the contrast of newly disturbed areas. And when properly applied will last a very long time and weather nicely. Works very well with newly made trials or clearings.
Great video just a couple of other options though. I always have at least 6 loops, a 6 foot length of cordage and a 35 foot ridgeline and two 55 gallon drum liners. Here is the theory. With the ridgeline I can easily make an a-frame or hang the poncho off plow point fashion. The 6 ft cord is to snag the hood in the plow point for more space. The loops are for going through the grommets with toggles to stake it out and to make prussicks.
The drum liners weight nothing. They are to be stuffed with leaves and pine boughs and/or duff. This way I get off the ground, have insulation, and a moisture barrier all in one.
Great video, thanks
"Unless you're snoring really loud."
That's exactly what I was wondering how to protect myself from. They'd hear me from a mile away.
Yep it'd be pointless for people like us trying to stealth sleep, might as well have a giant flashing neon arrow pointing at us
I guess you would want to sleep in some kind of depression or behind a baffle.
Imagine that you were going to set up a portable generator, where would you place it to reduce its noise?
Maybe put a few stones in a can and throw it from where someone might approach to where you might like to set up your camp, you will hear if your snoring noise focuses in that direction or if the noise will be muffled somewhat.
Sound can be weird where there are hills and valleys, at least you can maybe misdirect somewhat...
Excellent job in instruction. Humor and presentation 5 star. The information was easy to consume and easy to recall. And quality filming. And the benefit of a STAR don't hurt much NEITHER...haha
Excellent tutorial! This is the real stealth set up, especially the last. In Florida we have fire ants, and torrential rains, but you can make a hammock from the poncho too!
I'm from North Ga.(actually same town Alan is from-same local as in this video), and unfortunately, we have them(fire ants) here, too...they make mounds in the open, but in the woods they are harder to detect..until they are all over you...we've had them here for about 20 years now, and they are everywhere...they are also in North Carolina, Tennessee, South Carolina, and I even saw them in Kentucky last summer when I was traveling through there...I say they will eventually reach the Great Lakes...maybe further..they can withstand zero degree F temperatures-they just go deeper into the ground when it's cold, then come back to the top when it warms up in a few days...
You use a horizontal ridge line, then stake your corners out with bungees not rope, then lash the hood up to the ridge line.
Bungee cord is a must for the right tention and give in the set up.
Slept in my poncho with a wool blanket for years in the Army…You might just nap against a tree and your pack with it on you. Have fun stay safe.
when you have armor, night vision, a silenced autorifle, and a subsonic option, it's the hostiles that have the majority of the problems. When 2-3 of them drop without a sound, the rest get much slower with how they cover ground. That lets you slip away, or get into a better position to remove even more of them.
Cool video. I liked your teaching styles and the info presented. I enjoyed the thought of being there also.
One more point regarding choosing a set up site for stealth. If hiding from wildlife or people with dogs, wind direction can be a concern.
I wish I could learn this stuff in person but not a forest in the country I know of
The comment at 5.00 even rules out ever camping under a Eucalyptus tree in Australia as their always dropping limbs after a wet season. Stay safe Aussie Jeff
Love this.
I like this format 👍
I always wished my poncho started out 2 to 3 ft larger and I could always rig it smaller if needed.
Outstanding Brother's, I really appreciate 🙏 you guys Sharing and Teaching, the thing's that can save lives, I can also see the Choice of the Pouncho, I have a Really nice German Milatery Surplus, but it doesn't have any Snaps, So I can See now, I need to Find another type of Pouncho, I really liked the Content of this Video Thank you All. Sincerely your freind from Mo Rick and God Bless you 🙏 and your family's and God Bless America 🇺🇸 and the Republic and God Bless 🙏 All of are Veterans and First Responders
If shtf and the foreign troops start coming in I want Alan with me 👍🏼
..yep..the Chinese paratroopers...
@@dyer2cycle and Russians
@@Bruce6001 Alan Kay vs. Lars Grebnev...now that would be interesting...
Through a few leafs across it to give it that 3 D look and good to go.. It's always a work in progress.
Good footage I just wish more people in the UK were doing this kind of thing especially now right
UK here. I've been doing this since lockdown. It gave me something to do and I actually enjoy doing it. I think we might all be having to use these skills pretty soon.
Would love to see you two do a vid on snake evading..
middle of hill is best as it leaves one with three exits away from danger.
never sky line siloughette but secret to staying invisible is also in how you walk through brush or timber.
You never.stop between trees; you move tree to tree or hide spot. You stand between trees you are target, siloughetted.
In hilly timbered or brush oak as there middle of hill best because from a highpoint looking down looking through tops of foliage and from a.low point one can see under the foliage.
Never bottom or valley if possible. If real hilly even tbered your escape rote from defending danger means danger can see you as you climb opposite hillside.
Lot of creek bottoms then leave but up or down, two routes only and larger creeks more open and smaller hard to make time over downed trees and brush along banks..
when moving stay alert, most animals not constantly on move so brush signs treeds.are used.to move,30 40 to a minute limits sound, and whether hiding from or hunting man or beast you want to see them first.
Move to blend point. Look and listen in all directions.
YES WATCH YOUR BACKTRAIL!
What may of seen you first may go to dirt until you've passed.
SHTF scenarios can get you killed so buildingnawareness and survival skills used in any camping trip builds instinct traits.
Remember hunter gathering is staying alive
Wandering around aimlessly and acting like a marauding predator is reverting to beast and animal minds.
Use single trees, stay low and slow,
You guys are the best.🤙🍻
Awesome job guys.
Heh , just when you think you're the only one doing or thinking of something like this then you see a video like this, , something everyone should know how to do this and other survival needs.
I think I'd put myself up for adoption if Jason & Alan were inclined to take on another dependent
They're having too much fun
I hear they're taking applications.... $2,500 per app. 🧐
A lot of good info.
Great video. 👍🏾
Very cool
Informative
Hey Allan was wondering if you were still active .great teaching on this subject
This was an excellent video
20:40 S-shaped carabiners work great for easy on/off, just hit em with some matte spray paint and keep a few shock cord loops ready as they'll take the brunt of the wind flopping your tarp instead of placing that pressure on the eyelets -overtime, they'll wear out if you allow them to take undue pressure
The kid might not have Blades powers, but being trained by Whistler still puts him in a league of his own.
EXCELENTE BRO.
Wise old dude 😎 I like 👍
Very nice.
Awesome video
Good advice
It will be much more better (being the artist myself) that the military poncho should have solid color (e.g. brown, tan, khaki, coyote) and/or duck hunting pattern. For the solid color, it will be much more better if you can blend in to a local dirt and add the debris using any netting materials if needed.
I always take a wood stick for grabbing 😁✌️🍀
Teaching or showing younger people things of outdoors skill of living, most of them aren't interested and I'm afraid it's going to be too late for trial and error for most because they just don't seem to care, I'm 48 grew up with grandparents that lived during the great depression , and taught me alot, I joined the army and learned some things there as well cav scout 19 delta, four years, I talk to my kids even and they just kinda look like you really think that's gonna happen, if they could only see what alot of people see they would be absolutely ready to obtain knowledge of getting by and survival and it not seem so hard, makes it' alot easier to do things now and let it be easily introduced rather than all at once now having to at some point then it's oh shit I should have paid more attention.
How can I take lessons from Alan like the young man?
Shouldn't the title have been 'When, Where, and Why?' BTW: You might want to check out the Russian rain/snow poncho; I believe it's called the "plash palatka". While heavier than the US poncho, it's made of canvas and is more durable, and creates less condensation than the poly version, it has the hood integrated into one corner instead of in the middle, and it has a slot for your weapon firing (right) arm.
To me, a poncho is rain gear that can be used as a shelter, and a plash palatka is a shelter than you can use as raingear. But in a long term scenario the palatka wins hands down
😳 "When, where and why?" ?!?!? 😳
You mean instead of "when, where and why?"
Maybe I'm the one who's crazy?!? 🤔
@@redfaux74 I guess he caught it: it said 'When, when and why'
@@Cetok01 🤣🤣🤣 Well, good eye. 🤣🤣🤣 I have a way of noticing little things like that also.
Woobie shelters are great!