Fender VS Squier: The '70s Deluxe Tele Comparison
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- Опубліковано 6 жов 2024
- We put Adam's ear to the test to see if he can pick out the Fender Vintera from the Squier Classic Vibe '70s Deluxe Telecaster.
Both guitars are part of new line ups for 2019 and both have that '70s mojo and character. Take a listen and see what you think.
He felt for the sticker twice. He knew where to “look.”
Exactly
yea
Indeed!
Yep
i agree
I prefer the colour of the vintera. I know it's superficial but colour of guitar is important to me when choosing a new guitar....
Yeah, me too. For me, I like the Squire; it looks more like the CBS fenders in the shops when I was a kid. CBS went through A LOT of Olympic White in those days.
@@deanallen927 SQUIER
Colour is the most important thing!😏
They don't call it "Tone Colour" for nothin'!
...oh, wait..
→ They don't call it "Tone Colour" -for nothin'- at all, do they..?? 🤔
*It doesn't matter! E'eryone knows.. → Red guitars **_toaaan_** faster!!*
Nothing wrong with that. If you don’t like the look and feel of a guitar you won’t want to play it.
Its immediately obvious its the squier when he touches the big sticker on the pickguard
Should’ve made it trickier and handed him the same guitar.
Great comparison video! I love Fender MIM guitars but the Squier is 40% the cost! This really convinced me for the Squier.
And in the future they can be swapped parts
Did you ever got one?
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If you want to have to install pickups down the road.
Yeah, the pricier Squiers can go toe-to-toe with the Mexicans.
I closed my eyes n I cannot tell them apart.
So, let's save some money, eh?
I agree👍
Facts
I liked the Squier better with overdrive, but the Vintera better clean. Probably due to the hotter pickups in the Vintera. So for me, I prefer the Squier as I almost never play totally clean.
Nothing wrong with the Squier. I like bright pickups. Cuts through better ☺
How well does it hold tuning
Agreed!
me too! properly changing pickups and set’em properly will u cut the differences?
The difference in tone between the two was negligible. If you compared two Fenders they might have the same difference in tone, just by virtue of being different pieces of wood. I would say you may not even have to swap the pickups on the Squier. Changing the pots and caps might do the job if you're not quite satisfied.... Sometimes just adjusting the pickup height is all it takes to dial in the tone. I have a CV '50s Tele that sounded really good right out of the box, but wasn't exactly to my liking yet. I just put springs under the neck pickup so I could raise it higher (it came with two pieces of foam under the pickup, which only allowed you to raise it so far), then balanced the bridge with the neck pickup at its new height, and now it sounds as good - if not better - than my AmStd. Tele. Buy the Squier!
I will keep this mod in mind...
I'd agree with that. On this demo stock, the neck pickup on the Vintera was definitely better than the Squier; making the middle position and neck position sounds more useable. But if just adjusting the height can get it there; the CV is a no brainer. Oh, maybe the paint finish on the Vintera looked better. But then again, the finish on the Affinity charcoal black looks super good and it's a quarter the price of the Vintera. But the CV hits the sweet spot.
He felt the bullet truss on the vintera and after that the charade was over. Actually it was over before it started since he saw both guitars before hand.
Both sound quiet nice. Squier is a bit boomy, in my opinion, but that's easy to fix with a very basic eq adjustment: cut some bass and raise mid and perhaps treble. It should be enough.
After playing over 50 years, you'll never convince me that the difference in tone, between these two guitars means anything.
@@QuantumGamingUploadsKeep it to yourself bud.
@@QuantumGamingUploads that was a very poor analogy. How is only one is beautiful here? These two guitars look and sound on the same level beside personal preferences in colors.
@@QuantumGamingUploads I'm not sure anyone got your weird fantasies. I have better one - here are two beautiful girls, one is originated from USA, another one from Asia. You like both, but you know the first one will cost you more :)
@@QuantumGamingUploads playing with the words if fun for sure, but analogy should still make sense. And I am too young for those soviet times where people had to carefully play with the wordings. I am a Perestroika child :) We could say already whatever we want, much more than today actually, MUCH MORE. Literally everything. Today every second joke will offend someone and you are risking to be cancelled or at least banned in social media (happened to me more than once, for jokes).
I have to play guitar for 50 years to never convince you? I accept.
I recently spent twice the money to see if Fender on the headstock was worth the extra $$. In my case it's not. I actually like my Squier guitars better. In my experience the 250-500 dollar range is the absolute best deals. Namely Squier and Harley Benton.
Thanks mate for not relying on the bloody fuzz and overdrive box like most people do in their demos. I'm so tired of these guys!
Fuzz is life, life is fuzz.
@@shanecornutt806 Fuzz is great...but not when you're trying to distinguish between two guitars. All most of these supposed guitar reviews do is demonstrate the difference between different overdrive pedals.
I once heard a rumour that the massive headstocks on '70s Fender's were a counter-balance for the platform heels worn by the glam rockers.
The sticker on the Squier was a dead giveaway
The side by side shot playing the same riffs is the first time I’ve seen a comparison video you could properly judge! Good work! 👍🏻
Thanks - exactly what I needed (the choice I'm about to make) - the Fender wins hands down for me as an acoustic fingerstyle player looking for an electric tone. Nice to hear a review done on clean tones as well.
Anyone notice the Guitar inside the cabinet?
Both sound great and to my ears I could hear no considerable difference. With that being said I would buy the Classic Vibe strictly because of price point. Thanks for the comparison. 🤘🏻✌🏻
2:46 looks like he finds the sticker and they even have to cut the video because they realized that they screwed up. By the way, it was a nice sound comparison and it helped to make a deision. Thank you.
Why do I leave after watching this video somehow wanting both?
I'd take either one, but I think the price difference points me to the Squier. The middle pickup did sound different and I did like the Fender better there.
2:50 that voice crack tho
XD
The slight very light difference in sound is not worth the huge price difference..its marketing to buy the same guitar for double the price..consumer ignorance is the price of profit.
The Squier sounds more authentic. Brighter more spank and twang.
I like the sound of the original 72 and sorry fender, you screwed up, it’s the squier that sounds the real deal out of these 2.
Very good pickups when trying in a room. I had a chance and could not believe how they sounded and had to doubt if they were humbuckers ( they are, just my first experience with wide range types)
I have a hard time like the vintera series fender something is missing in all of them and squire has it all
I wouldn't be surprised that these two guitars have the exact same pickups in them.
Regardless of if they are the same ones, they are extremely similar in that they aren’t real wide range pickups. Wide range pickups have about 2,000 to 3,000 extra winds of coils than your standard humbucker or PAF. These are regular humbuckers with the normal number of winds (around 5,000) with a plastic loop around them to fit in the bigger “wide range” pickup covers.
I could definitely hear a difference. I own the squier and its the only squier I've ever purchased and wow what a guitar it is. I have guitars ranging from 300 - 3400 and that squier definitely is of a better quality than you would think,
Same, I just bought a Thinline classic vibe Squier. Couldn’t leave it at the store for $400!
to play and jam in your basement, a Squier CV is more than you need, great guitar, I have 2, Strat and Tele.
Both are great.
I've had Squier CVs and Fender MIMs. I currently own a Fender.
Build, fit and finish on Classic Vibes is every bit as good as the MIM guitars. Only pups and a few bits of hardware separate them. CVs make brilliant upgrade platforms.
This video helped me a lot . By the way , I chose buy a Squier instead of Vintera here in 2021 ;)
Sameee i bought the black one bcuz it made me think of ex paramore guitarist josh farro from the "decode" song lol
Yep, same, so little difference, just the cost... :)
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Well I’m surprised I’m the first to note this. Both pickup sets are indeed fake wide range, the poles are not magnetized on the Vintera or Squier and they both house regular non magnetized poles humbuckers, with the magnet strip underneath. So the tonal differences can be attributed to the pots! 250k in Squier (why it’s muddier, reduced top end spectrum) and 500k in the Vintera (closer to the 1 Meg originals which are generally felt to be way too bright and open) In summary: neither has wide range pickups, just normal buckers in wide range casing, and yes the pots are the culprit of the major tonal difference.
One thing I would’ve done is remove the sticker on the pickguard of the classic vibe. Cause that kind of gives it a away.
Exactly easy give away
I'm a Les Paul guy but I love the Squire. I'd even buy one.
SQUIER
I would have no issue owning the Squire going by this. Some people have to have the logo but I’m not bothered.
SQUIER!!
That Bassbreaker is the real star of the show.
This review is a classic of its kind - an object lesson in how to truly compare two guitars. Well done guys.
Live in the room the fuller-bodied sound of the Fender the reviewer refers to may be more apparent, but online the two guitars are essentially indistinguishable, with perhaps the Squire just edging it.
I definitely prefer the bottom end of the Classic Vibe. There's something about how the Vintera compresses the sound that I don't like. But phone with headphones 🤷
So so close. That CV is a great guitar for the $.
They're pretty close, but there's a thicker, rounder, vowel-like tone that's more prominent in the Squier that I prefer.
I think the Squier have a little bit more of high end in sound, but I prefer the Fender due to cleaner and articulate sound. Thanks for this video!
I was in the market to buy the fender but now I’ve decided to go for the squire simply because the fender didn’t sound any better and the price difference is huge.
I thought that the squier was clearer and brighter. I would buy the Squier all day long.
Not everything should be competed against one another but played together to create beautiful music.
....with tonnes of gain😁
I had a real 70's deluxe for years sold it for a 335 I liked the squire, more like my real 70's American version to me .
There’s sod all difference to my ears. The Vintera is a tiny bit darker with the clean tones. Probably more noticeable in person.
They’ve always struck me as a rock machine. The Bluetones second album was mostly recorded with one apparently but live he played a lot of Gretsch Duo Jets. I suppose he didn’t want to wreck his vintage guitar on the road.
They sound very similar, not an enough difference to pay almost double for the Vintera.
The Vintera sounded brighter, clearer to my ear. I would go for the Classic Vibe for half the price. Thanks for making this video!
Side by side, the squier sounds richer and deeper man...! So glad I bought it!
I prefer the Vintera both in looks and sound. Whenever I've bought a cheaper guitar I end up wishing that I'd bought the more expensive one. I think the CV sounds a bit unfocused and that would bug me to hell after a couple of days. I'd then want to upgrade the pickups and that's a pain in the arris! Worth the difference? Yes, for me because there's nothing worse than playing a guitar that doesn't inspire you. I'm not a snob. I have a j.mascis Squire that is one of my favourite guitars even though it's the cheapest that I own. In this comparison though I think the price difference is justified, for me anyway.
Plus also the Fenders come with quality amp style control knobs , Squiers have those awful Kmart look alikes, whenever I have had a Squier tele custom or Deluxe I buy a set of Fender Amp knobs for it 🙃😜
I have a used Squier Tele Deluxe the Indo version love the "C" neck, 12" radius, med jumbo frets and the carved belly cut! Best $190 spent on an electric guitar. Also have a set of SD antiquities lying around maybe time to experiment.
doesnt have jumbo frets, narrow tal, only vintera have medium jumbo
Just what I was looking for .. nice vid!!
Interesting in the first side by side the Vintera sounded brighter... will listen to the others!
Thought the Vintera was brighter in most of the side by sides, on UA-cam at least. But it did seem to have better string separation and clarity. Personally wouldn’t pay the extra for the Vintera, if they play the same you’d be better off getting the Squier and some top end creamery or Mojo pick ups, it would then smoke the Vintera and still be cheaper! 👍🏻
What makes the Vintera pickups sound better? The wiring? Both are faux Wide Range buckers, just regular humbuckers in large cases.
mix, i mean type of wood even if pine is good. how is assembled is the key factor, paint, gloss finished etc… then type of neck and electronic parts… buying new pickups and new neck aftermarket maybe… squier get the green card! but is it worth the effort? i buyed long time ago squier strato 82 model fantastic neck c slim profile without any gloss, it rocks!!!! doesn’t have power big sound compared to usa vintage or customshop series.. but it works ! antiquity pick up and changing frets… actually withthe new squire it ll be hard this hazard… maybe with tele deluxe ? never played but regualr squier tele are beckward step to the old japan series…
Best comparison video about these guitars
Do you really mean the difference belongs to the Pickups? "Fender Wide Range Humbuckers" vs. "Fender Designed Wide Range Humbuckers". Would be inteteresting to know if there is an difference in the Resistance or just in the Name "Designed by". Maybe it is more about the woods Alder vs Poplar.
Weight and sticker perhaps made this challenge easy. But they both sound quite nice. I have a Japanese made '62 reissue Tele, but am considering one of these as they are so different. And I love the body carve and LP layout.
Great comparison! Yes im first. I liked the Vintera, so much better than CV which is the price difference but yeah, if playability is the same, pluck the pickups and change it.
Brightness you can roll off with your tone knob. Adding brightness is not possible. I would rather have a slight more brightness that I can roll off.
Agreed!
Thanks for letting us hear the tones of each guitar, some crappy reviews instantly start with a fret wanderer playing the whole thing on full overdrive..
Fender pups were more articulate across the spectrum - could hear the overtones throughout but most noticeably the mid-range, where the CV's brightness washed out the nuanced tones a little - but for me it's the oly-white CV. Love that color. Can be had for $400-$450 (USD) new, whereas the Vintera is $800 used, $1100 new. That's a lot of cash delta for what most reviews call a dead heat on playability and quality - and leaves many hundreds of dollars on the table ($400 at least if you're shopping new CV vs used Vintera) for excellent upgrades like a proper neck/fret setup, locking tuners, kill switch install, pup upgrade if you think it needs it (their 'Professional' WR humbuckers can be had for $200/set) - all-in making that CV equivalent to an $1800 Tele Pro MIA build for about the cost of a used Vintera. Yes please.
I like the brightness of the squier more. The finish of the fender more.
Agree. The Squier sounds closer to the originals even though the pickup aren’t really wide range it’s bright like the originals. The Fender is too dark and muddy for its supposed to be.
Have a Classic Vibe. Only thing I prefer after watching this is the color; the Vintera’s color looks better personally.
The brave hearts could swap magnets in the Squier pickups, Alnico 2 might open the congested neck pickup, Alnico 4 could dull any ice-pick in the bridge. Worth the savings over the Vintera imo, plus less hesitation considering a refinish for the Squier.
Not a fan of the gloss Squier necks but I wet sand them with 600 grit to knock the shine off and get a lovely fast satin finish
Great comparison, thanks!
the selector swith gives it away so even blindfolded you will feel the difference there.
The BULLET truss rod, better pickups, the FENDER logo & better color choices make the VINTERA more appealing😁The SQUIRE did sound more TELECASTER like @11:53 on the bridge pu😎🎱☮🔊🖖👍
In the blindfold comparison, I agree the Vintera sounded richer, but in the side by side video, I preferred the CV much more. I own several Mexican (Vintera and Classic series) Strats and Teles, and one Squier Stratocaster CV 60: wonderful guitar (I just upgraded the pots) but the only thing I don't like that much is the thickness of the neck: too slim for me. The rest is gorgeous. In Italy a CV costs around 450 euros, a Vintera near 1000. I can't spot that difference, onestly. Squier is doing really great instruments lately. Wonderful video!👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
review the Squier deluxe vibe 70's in the sparkle colors
great vid Adam. i've got a 69 thinline CV and its probably the best sounding guitar i have. i also have fenders and gibsons but i pick up the squier the most.
Hello
You mean the thinline with f hole?
Can you please tell me the main difference in sound btn them?
As I know they have the same pickups
@@dimitrisaivaliotis5616 it's all down to personal experiences and how you hear things but to me I've played the Mexican version of the 69 thinline Tele and it was ok, a bit dull. The squier CV 69 thinline just feels more alive, vibrant, chords are very clear. To me it just sounds nicer. Maybe I got lucky, but the classic vibes do have a very good reputation for being a very good guitar for the money.
@@rosskoko100 thank you Ross
I thought the Squire was a little brighter i liked it!
It is to me! If you can play it in a store its worth the experience!
Could buy a CV Deluxe Tele and a CV Custom Tele. And have some change left for the price of a Mexican made Fender Tele. Squire seemed to sound better with effects. He didn’t say why he liked the pickups better with the Vintera although he could not distinguish the difference in sound from both guitars. Why is that? I wouldn’t say 450 dollars plus tax is exactly cheap for a guitar that comes without a case or well made gig bag and is protected by bubble wrap in delivery.
Old video, I know. I know they have the same radius and frets, but what about the neck shape? I like the bullet rod ant three bolt neck of the Fender, but I'd probably go for the Squire - I'll go for lighter and brighter every time. The Squire is a more authentic color too. Great job!
Looking for a comparison between the vintera and the classic vibe 70s deluxe tele. This is the first video I come across 😂😂
I prefer the Squier for the price point. And plus I can do a few upgrades to get it to where I want.
I think the Vintera sounds a little richer in tone. In my ears the Squier sounds a little too harsh and kind of cut off compared to the Vintera. When I'm listening to the Squier first and the Vintera afterwards the Vintera tells my how the sound is actually supposed to be. Excellent work! Thanks for comparing!
This video convinced me to get the Squier Deluxe. For my ear the vintera is quite muddy sounding - the originals ( ok they had 1 Meg pots) are very bright.
good video!- it really helps having the comparisons side by side.
He reached up and felt the trust Rod was not there on the Squire at frame 2:45 /16:37 He knew.. LOL!!!!!
exactly.........I had a tele like this.....and upgrades the pickups where the front one was a really expensive humbucker and and the back one was a single coil but it had a humbucker look.......so what i had was a guitar that was fairly affordable but super flexible in terms of tone.....now Im using an Eastwood ripley custom with three pick ups...I like it way better.
Hi, I bought a beautiful Squier Classic Vibe 70 used a few weeks ago but I noticed some differences from the ones on sale now and also from this one in the video. First of all I have two string tree instead of one, I have the Fender logo imprinted on the pickups instead of Squier and a larger "by Fender" is written on the headstock. The year of production is 2015. Thanks and who can give me some info.
I prefer the Vintera in the head to head here-as he says the cheaper guitar always tends to sound brighter-but I have to remind myself that I won’t have the two to compare when I play, so maybe that’s ok. Although he’s playing through a Bassbreaker and that adds tons of low end.
Are you selling guitars or pickups? because you can just use an eq to get the differences it seems your selling....
I preferred the fuller sound of the fender However guitars are all individuals so not all the same and a Squier may sound fuller than a MIM Fender. Sound & feel is the proper way to choose a guitar, price is also a factor.
I've been hoping someone would do a video like this. Great comparison, but I have to agree based on the sound it's a win for the Fender. Simple as a pick up swap? Sure. But there's something about that Mocha and Vintage Blonde color...
I wonder if he felt the round sticker on the pickguard of the Squier? Squiers are usually lighter as well.
12:09 Some Nirvana would have been good with that kind of tone
About a girl
Tbh I think that Squire sounded slightly fuller but the difference might as well be in my headphones. Nice vid!
Squire??????????????????
About the playability: there are big differences in my opinion. What I think is better on MIMs: feeling of the neck & freatboard (especially the fretwork), pots (they work smoothly enough on the Vintera even though might be upgraded). The hardware is definitely much better on the MIM.
I purchased both knowing that the company had a good returns policy. The vintera was set up worse out of the box and didn’t play as nice. Sound difference was minimal (didn’t sound any better). I sent the fender back and kept the Squier !!
For me the Squier is more a Telecaster than the Vintera is. Soundwise. Love that Squier.
I just bought the Squier CV telecaster deluxe and I love the guitar, I'm glad I bought it
The "brightness" thing - I would resectfully point out that eq pedals exist and are incredibly useful. See ua-cam.com/video/foK6OfdEve0/v-deo.html where Joshua Heath Scott does a great piece on them.
I love both, but I think I’ll go with Vintera
The only telecaster model Squier sounds better than Fender. I have almost all other models, but gonna buy Squier on this one.
Get the Squier... later buy a Fender roasted maple neck for $180 or so.
That's also a good idea... But $180 only?
Not going to be a popular opinion but…
The problem is that Fender has reduced their quality since their buyout, and Squier has become the new Fender Mexico, so the Squier is more comparable to the Fender. Fit and finish of course is great, but I’ve never found a Fender or Squier built in the last 8-10 years to not fall out of tune within a minute or so of playing. And intonation is off, overtones are wonky, some of them have weak or malfunctioning pickups, etc. What’s worse, these things have zero mojo, it’s like making love to a mannequin.
Adding to the pile is the 40-50% increase in street price from 2010. I’ve had a lot of dead ass awesome Fenders and Squiers, but NONE of them have been from after 2010.
And Gibson has been bad for about a decade before then!
Imperative that you play the exact guitar before you purchase it - especially nowadays when everything is harvested green and spit out of machines in China at record speeds with spot checks by AI.
I just can't ignore the fact that someone has stuck a guitar in the speaker cabinet behind him...
Squier seems like a good option until you unscrew the neck and find a neck pocket flooded with poly. I’ve seen that in each I’ve checked. The whole neck pocket area was covered in a really thick layer or poly and the electronics were garbage.
I removed the poly, changed the neck angle by sanding the pocket and thinned the thick poly coating qll over the body and sounds and plays much better.
I really think they make them worse on purpose so that you can tell which is which on videos like this.
How many is “each one you’ve checked” ?
@@kurtisdesautels1605 3 in a row
Great video and thanks for sharing. Can you confirm both of Guitars in the video have 9.5" radius?
The Squier VM version and the Fender '72 Deluxe have 12" radius I think eh?
Thanks again (y)
According to Guitar Center's website, the MIM Vintera has a 7.25 radius?
@@BuckFlicks Understood
If you want a Telecaster with two humbuckers and a flatter radius, the Squier Contemporary HH Tele has a 12 inch radius.
I liked the sound of the squier more
Yeahh * * Really good Test betwin the Two * * Veery Close :)
Good player!! Great Bluesy Rock, to compare, Thanxx * *
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What a good and clean compering. Thank you , ı decided and ı bought ;)
What pots and caps are in the Fender? I know the CV has Alphas in it so I am wondering if that would make a difference. When you played side by side it was almost exactly the same. Really close. Great review....cheers mate.
250k pots not sure about the caps.