Josh, absolutely love your content. One correction though, the 40 series cards actually do NOT scale with more power EXCEPT for the 4080 and 4090. That's why there is a huge performance gap between the x16 4090 and the M16 4080. For the 4070 and lower, they cap out at pretty much 100W. The XPS 17 had only 70W so there would definitely be a difference between that and the 125W Legion, but the lower end 40 series cards do not benefit from more wattage past 100W as a lot of tests have shown.
Yes they top out at 0.925-1v depending on the model, which translates to about 105w max. They can go higher than that and will benefit from more power when more parts of the gpu are utilized heavily at the same time (eg vram)
There's also a huge price difference..LOL.. It all comes down to getting the most performance, configuration, quality of build, port selection and best user experience and battery life for what you need it for. For some this could be overkill and last them several years and for others its just a stop gap between an Office Workstation Desktop and Home Office/Mobile computer and is more than enough. Then considering the cost to go up to something like a 4090 or even 4080 gpu config might not be work it at the end of the day for 95% of people.
exactly, this needs to have much more visibility. A laptop with 140W GPU is exactly the same as a 100W and it is nonetheless used for marketing (see razer blade 14, etc). Big yikes from nvidia (if it's them who made this artificial limitation that desktop GPUs don't have) and laptop OEMs who ignore this
Unfortunately, you didn't mention the most important or at least a very good argument for buying the Legion. I own a Yoga 7, an IdeaPad Pro (7840HS) and have had several Legions. Legions have the great advantage that they have fan control, either via Vantage or (even better) LegionToolKit without Lenovo bloatware. If you place the Legion on a cooler (ideally with a Noctua fans), you can turn the fans down to a minimum under load, so that you have a relatively quiet notebook even when gaming. Yoga, IdeaPad, Thinkbook/-pad cannot do that. The fans even run below 35°C and you cannot really change it (see the comments on YT, Reddit, etc. about the current IdeaPad Pro and Yoga, Yoga Pro). So I'm switching back to the Legion Slim because I need to concentrate for work and the fan noise annoys me on the Yoga or Ideapad Pro.
Hi I'm confused the legion yoga pro 9i is the one with mini led right? Can we all call it yoga pro 9i to avoid any confusion. I would love to see a direct comparison between the legion 7i 2024 and yoga pro 9i since they have the "same" slick and thin mcbook design
Hey josh, great review as always, i was wondering if you would do such reviews for chinese brand laptops such as huawei and xiaomi, in some places those are just a better deal because outside of us laptops from big brands can be quite overpriced
I'd also choose yoga pro 9i over legion slim 7 if they're in the same price range. However I can purchase the slim 7(AMD variant with rtx 4060) at around 1650 Euro(1500 to Lenovo and 150 for SSD and RAM on Amazon), whereas the yoga pro 9i costs 2500 Euro. Obviously i9 is faster but the price gap is too hard to swallow...
I have the legion slim 7 (amd) gen 8, loving it. One problem i have is that the screen randomly flickers to white for a millie second. And this very very randomly and not to often that i realy see it as a problem. Anyone has a idea for what it could be? thanks
Can you explain the difference between legion, yoga, slim, pro, 5i, i5, 5 and 7, 9? Looks like Lenovo is taking a page from Asus and does not explain what each means
Hey Josh. Would you mind reviewing the Legion 7 gen 8 with the new zen 4 7840HS chip? It would be very interesting to compare thermals, battery life, and raw power. Thanks, love your work!
I've read some reviews on the ryzen 7 7840hs, and its very good at preserving energy compared to Intels and still perform great. Tech Guy Beau has a review and some real testing on a legion slim 7 gen8 with amd, and his testings show a huge improvement in battery life compared to same setup with a intel cpu ( light usage, simple programs, watching movies/youtube ). One more thing is that he shows that legion runs very well in balance mode and even silent mode when playing games, if u want a more quiet/less warm experience with just a tiny loss, 5-10%, in performance.
I went ahead and bought it two weeks ago after going through UA-cam University, mostly your videos, to make my decision. I’ve had it for about 3 days and it’s honestly pretty rad. Very quiet unlike what other people say, outside of short occasions like when it’s loading something up. It’s also not heavy for me, but I’m a kind of active underweight girl, so it could just be arm strength. Love it.
Tough one. If you can afford Macbook Air M2 with 16GB memory then i'd get that, but the Macbook Pro 14 M1 is substantially better and doesn't cost that much more @@lakshya_md
Thanks Josh, appreciate the help! I'm getting a new MacBook Pro 2022 (M2, 13.3 Inch, 8GB, 512GB, macOS Monterey, Space Grey) for about 1.2k dollars. Should I get it?
Nice video as always. I have the 2023 Slim 7i with the i9/4070. The conclusion I came to was that it was about on par with the Asus M16 for being a classy/premium looking 16" gaming/workstation laptop, and often available for substantially cheaper than the M16 (I paid $1450 USD for the config in the video). I have been very happy with it, though I wish I got the 3200x2000 display instead of the 2560x1600 240hz. So far I have never found a use case where I wouldn't rather have 120hz and better graphics/less heat/less noise, beyond just web browsing/desktop stuff. Would highly recommend it as someone that previously had an M1 Macbook Pro and a high end (5900x/3090) desktop PC. I think Macbooks are in a league of their own, but if you need to play games or use Windows exclusive software this is a good choice. I got rid of the McAfee/Tobii/etc immediately and replaced the Lenovo software with the open source Lenovo Legion Toolkit.
@@mspider6944i was going to call BS, then remembered that sometimes Best Buy has these wierd and random $300-600 off 3 day sale on a nunber of random products. One time, I saw a Asus Rog Strix 18 with an i9/4080 normally $2600, brought down to $2200. I got my wifes Dell XPS 15 i7/4050 for $1500 instead of $2000.
Please review the amd version!! It’s such a greater value prospect. I got mine with 32gb ram, 3.2k screen, 4060 for just 1340usd on 20% discount. (got to remove windows on the Swedish build your own) I cannot find anything that even comes close to this performance+features for that price! As a computer science student who occasionally games it’s perfect
Just got this one on sale as I am a developer who does some ML now with Python … this machine is amazing, added a pro 990 SSD and crucial 32gb ddr5 stick and she is absolutely screaming
QUESTION AND SUGGESTION Josh, just found your channel and subscribed. Heres a major problem ive discovered that ive never heard anyone discuss...the intel Evo processors and iris integrared graphics marketed as a package to computer manufacturers to give the best computer experience and run the computer more effectively and efficiently and 2ndly the the poor battery life in lenovos. Let me explain how i dove into this rabbit hole and wondering if you could do a deep dive. 1st off the battery life. Lenovo uses lithium ions and newer li-pos. After much reading i feel the lithium ions are better. In my current purchase of lenovo evo/iris intel 7i, the battery lifee blows. Ive researched every fix and basically have to use lenovo vantage on the most basic mode but super battery saver mode to turn everything down that 'drains' the battery to squeeze more time out of it. Why? Why build a laptop when you cant use the functions to their fullest extent even half day (really only a few hours) on a flight or in a coffee shop unplugged . If i want to take the laptop wout the charger for a day, i cant....even on super duper power saving mode. Its like buying a car then sayin, well, if u want your car to run right, turn off all the accessories when you drive. No radio, no ac, no heated seats, etc. I honestly think this battery life needs to be addresed and is a joke and you get even less time on battery bc vantage battery saver charges your battery to 60 percent. And something else i discovered is that the lenovo does not warranty the battery after 1 year and i still believe off my research that li-ions are better for portability and longevity bc of the constant charging cycles. This is a common problem listed on lenovo forums that lenovo battery life is horrible. Is there a portable laptop that runs a good part of the day on battery? 2ndly, what are your thoughts on the intel evo/iris combo? When i compare specs to an amd processor and graphics, i often see amd performing better, even on battery life. I feel the the evo/iris combo means well, but limiting. Whats your thoughts? What brought this all about was my Costco comparison and use of 2 14 inch portable 2 in 1 lenovo laptops that are very similar that i was looking at that also lead me to reasearching other brands in the 14" portable market ($600 to $800 us range) and really hit on the 2 points of poor battery life and the difference of the intel evo and AMD internal processing/gpu specs and their performance. Computer guidelines use was for home, business, YT movies, not gaming, drawing, and portability, 2 in 1, and price as indicated. The 2 compared that started me down the rabbit hole and discovery: Lenovo flex 5 AMD Ryzen™ 7 7730U (8-core) Processor Item 1725651 Model 82XX003YUS Lenovo flex 7i Intel Evo Platform 13th Gen Intel® Core™ i7-1355U (10-core) processor Item 1009809 Model 82Y20001US PS The flex 5, while a tab bit older, performs better and battery last longer. The major diff in performance was the evo had a little more data transfer speed vs the ryzen, but thats not even noticeable. So in the end, what are the mfrs doing to improve battery life wout having the consumer turn everything off and are u a fan of the evo/ iris comb? Thanks
I hope your queries get addressed.. I chose Nvidia graphics card over Intel Iris as I wanted to experience the powerful graphics existing in the market.. I wasn't aware that the battery doesn't last longer, but I had to choose a windows laptop over MacBook due to my research requirements, hope my usage will sustain it longer as I don't plan to play heavy games on this laptop, its mostly for programming & reading stuff..
I wish Lenovo would make this laptop with a low-wattage RTX 4080 or 4090. There exists the ThinkPad P1 Gen 6, which has those GPU options, but it's crazy expensive.
Bought this one on your recommendation mainly as a business laptop, but returned it after a few weeks. It was pretty heavy, has very sharp edges, and most irritating booted very slowly after closing the lid. But very annoyingly, the usbC charger didn't accept the set ups at my office. It needs a special charger output via usc C. And the normal charger is way too heavy to haul around But it is a beautiful machine. Great keyboard. Good screen, and fast touchpad
I had a similar problem. In my case, it was due to a faulty power cord. Once I replaced the power cord, it charged just fine. But, really, Lenovo? I paid over $2,000 for the i9 processor version of this laptop and it arrived with a defective power cord! Not up to the standards I've come to expect from Lenovo.
I purchased this laptop a few months ago based on your review of last years model, and I've absolutely loved it! I ended up buying the higher resolution panel, as I enjoy that extra resolution for programming and productivity tasks. For gaming, I tend to use an external monitor anyways, so it ends up not being a big deal. As for the fan noise, it is actually quite a bit, but I noticed for lighter 1080p gaming it actually is near silent. And having a laptop stand helps a ton. As for macafee, I never had those popups, perhaps it's because I just uninstalled it in the first 10 minutes of booting up the laptop. But I 100% agree, the bloatware is stupid and ridiculous This laptop does often go on sale (the bestbuy version going down to about 1800) which is when I bought it, and I am very happy with the purchase overall
@@nikhilanandpandit8644 depending on the use, but for light productivity work, easily 6 hours without doing too mcuh related to saving battery like completely minimizing brightness etc.
Who has used 16 GB soldered + 48 GB in upgradable slot, for Blender, LuxCore, Octane? Is there huge speed hit for rendering or any issues for modeling in Blender using integrated GPU and CPU with huge scenes? I'm stuck between Slim 5 and 7.
Hey Josh! I’ve bought a HP spectre x360 16 inch 2023 with i7 gen 13 p-series ,32 gb of ram ddr4 for 1500€, what do you think is it a good buy or not? And also are considering reviewing the 16 inch HP spectre 2023?
Hello Josh... Between this (legion slim 7i 12th gen intel) and the Asus Zephyrus ROG M16 same cpu.. Which would you recommend.. I'd go for this if I can find it at same price as the Asus used here where I stay.. But I still want to get your thoughts..
Since you included the Asus M16 4090 in the charts, how do you feel about that laptop overall? The charts show temps and noise are more under control than this Legion Slim, but does it make too many other tradeoffs for your liking, knowing your attention to detail? The 4070/IPS SKU goes on sale for $1500 regularly at Best Buy, which is a great price for a premium gaming laptop, with the 4080/MiniLED retailing for $2600
@@yazioisttollichbinauchtoll2163bought it and returned it. The screen is so bad. Because of the super matte display, everything looks washed out and gross.
i bought this laptop 2 weeks before with diffrent varient my resolution is 3200x2000 165hz 100% p3 and 90%adobe rgb the screen is very good as i am studying computer science engeeenering its physically large as well as has high res that helps more lines of code problem ,sadly in india slim pro 9i is not available at all and got it for 1500$ for i7 13700h and rtx 4060 variety with white backlight
I should have bought this laptop when I had the chance but for whatever reason they are all out of stock it's ridiculous like the new model isn't out to replace and it’s not like it was super popular
Hi ,if isn't for battery life and all with 4060,Slim 5 /7-7840hs vs Pro 5-7745HX witch is a all in all a better laptop at the same price , or really worth Pro 5-7945HX for 180£ extra?
Please DON'T BUY this Legion Slim 7i 13th Gen laptop. You're limited to Windows 11 OS only. Lenovo provides drivers only for this OS version. You can't install any other Operating Systems on this machine. It has provisions only for two RAM slots and two SSD slots. It generates more heat. I bought one by my wrong decision. Now I regret. Please don't buy this Legion SIim 7i 16IRH8. Will Lenovo provide Drivers for Windows 10, Windows Server, Linux ?
"weird people who like a number pad". that's me. I only buy laptops with number pads as I mainly use it at home. Your review has solidified my decision to buy it.
I've had it 3 weeks now and I love it! This is definitely the all rounder best laptop I've always been looking for. I use it for work and productivity mostly. Adjusted the settings to the point where it gets me 5 hours of nonstop work on average. The size, weight and keyboard are all great. The only annoying part is carrying the brick, I couldn't find a USBc 140w charger that would work with it 100% and after a bunch of research found and ordered the official small 135w usbc Lenovo Legion charger
Hi Ali, I'm confused whether to go for slim 7i or Predator Helios 16. I've heard that slim 7i has screen bleeding issue. Is that true? Which one do you suggest? I need laptop for video editing, content creation and Data Science.
I got the i9 4070 2k 240hz screen (brighter and faster was more important to me than 3k). My main use is work and productivity, I'm a project manager, but I'm planning to start studying business analysis, so when choosing a laptop, I needed something that will handle Tableau, power bi, etc. I was using a 14 inch and the size was effecting my ability to multitask so i really wanted something bigger but i was hesitant because i was worried about weight, footprint, battery life, etc. After the 1st week with this, I've come to the conclusion that I've finally found the perfect windows laptop and that it would be very difficult to convince me to shift to another line or brand in the future. The minimum requirements i was looking for were: Good port selection (including USBA, hdmi 2.1, 2+ thunderbolts), not too heavy, not too thick, good keyboard (numpad is a big plus for me and full size arrow keys is just ❤️), decent or better track pad, 15 inch screen or more with thin bezels, 2k resolution (less is horrible to look at, more is too much and kills battery), bright enough, 120hz minrefresh rate min (multitasking and lots of scrolling with 60hz for too long hurts my eyes), 32 gb ram (exact, no more or less), at least 5 hours battery life or multitasking with medium brightness, good build quality. I was willing to spend up to 2100 to get something that checks all the boxes and would last long.
Every other option in my budget couldn't check all these boxes (yoga pro 9i, xps 15, galaxybook 3 ultra, zenbook 14x oled, etc.) This is definitely the perfect laptop for every use, productivity, multitasking, programming, gaming, and just about everything else you would want while it stays portable enough. None of the compromises you'll make when buying this over your other choices will be too much that you'll regret. You're sacrificing a very acceptable amount on portability, battery life, temperature, screen quality, and anything else on your requirement list. I still haven't gamed on it. My unit had a manufacturing issue where there's a click sound from the chassis every time you pick it up, they gave me a replacement 3 days later that had no issues and I've had no screen bleed.
The one negative I'd complain about is the power brick being heavy and big. It's too inconvenient to carry around. I did some online digging before buying a USBc Gan charger, and many were complaining about what they bought, not working or working sometimes, then not. After thorough research it turned out that Lenovo China has a very slim and light legion USBc Gan charger that's 135w which is the only option that's 100% guaranteed to work, it's not expensive so I ordered it but it takes long to deliver.
@@alishaverdi332 Thank you Ali for detailed review and explanation. The only thing that made me think twice was the screen bleed as mentioned by Jarrod's Tech in his review video. Infact we share the same interest and I'm also learning PowerBi, Tableau, Python and SQL and want a machine which can handle the task loads. I'm also thinking to start a youtube channel to post daily updates so the screeb should also be 100% color accurate. I'm thinking of going with 3k×2k 165hz panel. I'd like to hear your opinion on that... ☺️☺️
I have been using MacBooks for over a decade and have been an Android user for just as long. Because I'm tired of the friction Apple creates between their products and everyone else's, I'm on the hunt for a Windows laptop. I appreciate all the information you've given. It most definitely helps in making a decision. As a Samsung user with phones, TVs, tablets, watches, and Smartthings accessories, I'm also looking at Samsung laptops but I'm keeping my options open.
Listen here boy. Every laptop i see that has good reviews on yoU SHUT ME DOWN (inrpison 16 plus) AND WHEN I FIND A GOOD LAPTOP ITS TOO EXPENSIVE. So when i found an alternative it was this laptop AND IM BACK TO YOU AGAIN. PLS STOP HURTING ME. GIVE ME THIS LAPTOP NOW I DONT DESERVE TO SPEND ANOTHER MINUTE LOOKING FOR LAPTOPS.
Just for you. Tell me what you are looking for. If you want something like the Legion Slim 7i, the following are good options: Asus Zephyrus G16 (2024) with RTX 4080
@JustJoshTech thank you for taking your time writing this out. I looked at the lenovo legion series and wanted something like the Legion Slim 5 16" 4060 with AMD Ryzen™ 7 8845HS. Moving on to what my friend and I were looking for: Bugdet: under $1300 CPU: I7 (12th to 14th) or Ryzen 7 GPU: 4050 or 4060 Storage: 1TB Memory: 16gb Display: 15" to 16" and FHD+ to 2.5k (preferably 120hz+) Options i looked at such as the Dell inspiron 16 plus and HP Envy 2-in-1 had what I wanted but reviews were bad :(. I am going to be using this laptop for Computer Science in College and for light gaming. Thank you.
@JustJoshTech Your recommendations have helped me greatly, and I actually decided on the ASUS Vivobook pro 15 GEN 9 M6500XV (which has the AMD chipset) for a balance between work and games. Please make a review about it as there are very limited reviews on this product!!
Thanks for noting that in the real world people who work and have credit are the ones buying these, not 16-21 year olds. Myself and many of my coworkers at software startups are the ones who look at and use laptops like this not just to play video games all day. These are for Mobile work in Graphic Design/Web Design and Programming and 3D Editing software. And of course the occasional gaming if you don't already have a desktop or console device for playing a "video game".
Hello, I 've had this laptop for a month but I am looking for a usbc charger and people say it is only 20v 7 but cant find one, do you recommend one? or can I use a 20v 5a? Thanks,
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Josh, absolutely love your content. One correction though, the 40 series cards actually do NOT scale with more power EXCEPT for the 4080 and 4090. That's why there is a huge performance gap between the x16 4090 and the M16 4080. For the 4070 and lower, they cap out at pretty much 100W. The XPS 17 had only 70W so there would definitely be a difference between that and the 125W Legion, but the lower end 40 series cards do not benefit from more wattage past 100W as a lot of tests have shown.
Hot Boy, David!
Yes they top out at 0.925-1v depending on the model, which translates to about 105w max. They can go higher than that and will benefit from more power when more parts of the gpu are utilized heavily at the same time (eg vram)
There's also a huge price difference..LOL.. It all comes down to getting the most performance, configuration, quality of build, port selection and best user experience and battery life for what you need it for. For some this could be overkill and last them several years and for others its just a stop gap between an Office Workstation Desktop and Home Office/Mobile computer and is more than enough. Then considering the cost to go up to something like a 4090 or even 4080 gpu config might not be work it at the end of the day for 95% of people.
exactly, this needs to have much more visibility. A laptop with 140W GPU is exactly the same as a 100W and it is nonetheless used for marketing (see razer blade 14, etc). Big yikes from nvidia (if it's them who made this artificial limitation that desktop GPUs don't have) and laptop OEMs who ignore this
dude I think he knows that😂
He may or may not have bodies buried in his mother's garden, but you have to rate him for his excellent laptop reviews.
Unfortunately, you didn't mention the most important or at least a very good argument for buying the Legion. I own a Yoga 7, an IdeaPad Pro (7840HS) and have had several Legions. Legions have the great advantage that they have fan control, either via Vantage or (even better) LegionToolKit without Lenovo bloatware. If you place the Legion on a cooler (ideally with a Noctua fans), you can turn the fans down to a minimum under load, so that you have a relatively quiet notebook even when gaming. Yoga, IdeaPad, Thinkbook/-pad cannot do that. The fans even run below 35°C and you cannot really change it (see the comments on YT, Reddit, etc. about the current IdeaPad Pro and Yoga, Yoga Pro). So I'm switching back to the Legion Slim because I need to concentrate for work and the fan noise annoys me on the Yoga or Ideapad Pro.
Hi I'm confused the legion yoga pro 9i is the one with mini led right? Can we all call it yoga pro 9i to avoid any confusion. I would love to see a direct comparison between the legion 7i 2024 and yoga pro 9i since they have the "same" slick and thin mcbook design
I ordered the amd version..lets see how its perform..
Although the reviewed item isn't something I would be interested in buying I enjoyed your balanced review.
Wow. Your videos are excellent and i can't stop watching them. Researching what laptop i should get just got a lot easier, too. Subbed. Thank you!
Thanks Michael!
the glacier white version make me want to check out this year legion slim 7i, it looks great with per key rgb.
Hey josh, great review as always, i was wondering if you would do such reviews for chinese brand laptops such as huawei and xiaomi, in some places those are just a better deal because outside of us laptops from big brands can be quite overpriced
I'd also choose yoga pro 9i over legion slim 7 if they're in the same price range. However I can purchase the slim 7(AMD variant with rtx 4060) at around 1650 Euro(1500 to Lenovo and 150 for SSD and RAM on Amazon), whereas the yoga pro 9i costs 2500 Euro. Obviously i9 is faster but the price gap is too hard to swallow...
please do a comparison with the legion pro 5i
I have the legion slim 7 (amd) gen 8, loving it. One problem i have is that the screen randomly flickers to white for a millie second. And this very very randomly and not to often that i realy see it as a problem. Anyone has a idea for what it could be?
thanks
amazing vid!
Can you explain the difference between legion, yoga, slim, pro, 5i, i5, 5 and 7, 9? Looks like Lenovo is taking a page from Asus and does not explain what each means
Well done. Should have tested the amd version tho
What laptops would you recommend for high school students studying computers science ?
I think u should compare legion slim 7i with hp omen transcend 16 both are in same portable + powerful pc class
It's coming soon ;) We just finished testing the Omen
An extra 16gigs or Ram really boost the performance alot!
So 32G?
I like how you present the different products. But it seems that the only way to get a silent and well balanced performance is to buy a MacBook.
For higher performance tasks, that is accurate
In uk there is only one color..is the black color also coming?
I've read lots of bad opinions about this laptop. People admit for example that it heats really bad, so you cant hold your hand on the keyboard.
That was the 2021 version.
you didn't mention if the screen is a touch screen or not?
I think Lenovo need to nerf legion slim 7i for Lenovo yoga 9i pro 🤣🤣🤣
there is no ethernet lan port you should tell that.
Can someone tell me what sort of settings tweaks can i make to get maximum battery life?
I still like the screen
Those hinges look like they'll break in 3 months.
Hey Josh. Would you mind reviewing the Legion 7 gen 8 with the new zen 4 7840HS chip? It would be very interesting to compare thermals, battery life, and raw power. Thanks, love your work!
I've read some reviews on the ryzen 7 7840hs, and its very good at preserving energy compared to Intels and still perform great.
Tech Guy Beau has a review and some real testing on a legion slim 7 gen8 with amd, and his testings show a huge improvement in battery life compared to same setup with a intel cpu ( light usage, simple programs, watching movies/youtube ).
One more thing is that he shows that legion runs very well in balance mode and even silent mode when playing games, if u want a more quiet/less warm experience with just a tiny loss, 5-10%, in performance.
I have the AMD variant.. no heat and fan noise. Battery ~8 hrs (balanced)
From where
Do you game?
Abd anoying coil whine
I went ahead and bought it two weeks ago after going through UA-cam University, mostly your videos, to make my decision.
I’ve had it for about 3 days and it’s honestly pretty rad. Very quiet unlike what other people say, outside of short occasions like when it’s loading something up.
It’s also not heavy for me, but I’m a kind of active underweight girl, so it could just be arm strength.
Love it.
Awh! Glad we could be of help. Good luck with uni.
I'm really confused between this and A MacBook Air (M2). As a programmer which one should I consider?
Tough one. If you can afford Macbook Air M2 with 16GB memory then i'd get that, but the Macbook Pro 14 M1 is substantially better and doesn't cost that much more @@lakshya_md
Thanks Josh, appreciate the help!
I'm getting a new MacBook Pro 2022 (M2, 13.3 Inch, 8GB, 512GB, macOS Monterey, Space Grey) for about 1.2k dollars. Should I get it?
@@lakshya_md8gb is not enough for programming
Nice video as always. I have the 2023 Slim 7i with the i9/4070. The conclusion I came to was that it was about on par with the Asus M16 for being a classy/premium looking 16" gaming/workstation laptop, and often available for substantially cheaper than the M16 (I paid $1450 USD for the config in the video). I have been very happy with it, though I wish I got the 3200x2000 display instead of the 2560x1600 240hz. So far I have never found a use case where I wouldn't rather have 120hz and better graphics/less heat/less noise, beyond just web browsing/desktop stuff.
Would highly recommend it as someone that previously had an M1 Macbook Pro and a high end (5900x/3090) desktop PC. I think Macbooks are in a league of their own, but if you need to play games or use Windows exclusive software this is a good choice.
I got rid of the McAfee/Tobii/etc immediately and replaced the Lenovo software with the open source Lenovo Legion Toolkit.
where did you get it for $1450 USD?
@@mspider6944i was going to call BS, then remembered that sometimes Best Buy has these wierd and random $300-600 off 3 day sale on a nunber of random products.
One time, I saw a Asus Rog Strix 18 with an i9/4080 normally $2600, brought down to $2200.
I got my wifes Dell XPS 15 i7/4050 for $1500 instead of $2000.
which one screen is more expensive?? in my country only 3.2k available and with i7 13700h and 4060 its priced at ~$1645
I love your content. You are doing an amazing job, Josh.
First to comment.
Thanks! Its hardwork but hopefully you guys are enjoying the improvements to content quality
Please review the amd version!! It’s such a greater value prospect. I got mine with 32gb ram, 3.2k screen, 4060 for just 1340usd on 20% discount. (got to remove windows on the Swedish build your own)
I cannot find anything that even comes close to this performance+features for that price! As a computer science student who occasionally games it’s perfect
got my Legion Slim 7i for a week now, and I'm pretty happy about it.
How's the performance and battery life? Is it worth it?
Just got this one on sale as I am a developer who does some ML now with Python … this machine is amazing, added a pro 990 SSD and crucial 32gb ddr5 stick and she is absolutely screaming
QUESTION AND SUGGESTION
Josh, just found your channel and subscribed. Heres a major problem ive discovered that ive never heard anyone discuss...the intel Evo processors and iris integrared graphics marketed as a package to computer manufacturers to give the best computer experience and run the computer more effectively and efficiently and 2ndly the the poor battery life in lenovos.
Let me explain how i dove into this rabbit hole and wondering if you could do a deep dive.
1st off the battery life. Lenovo uses lithium ions and newer li-pos. After much reading i feel the lithium ions are better. In my current purchase of lenovo evo/iris intel 7i, the battery lifee blows. Ive researched every fix and basically have to use lenovo vantage on the most basic mode but super battery saver mode to turn everything down that 'drains' the battery to squeeze more time out of it. Why? Why build a laptop when you cant use the functions to their fullest extent even half day (really only a few hours) on a flight or in a coffee shop unplugged . If i want to take the laptop wout the charger for a day, i cant....even on super duper power saving mode.
Its like buying a car then sayin, well, if u want your car to run right, turn off all the accessories when you drive. No radio, no ac, no heated seats, etc. I honestly think this battery life needs to be addresed and is a joke and you get even less time on battery bc vantage battery saver charges your battery to 60 percent.
And something else i discovered is that the lenovo does not warranty the battery after 1 year and i still believe off my research that li-ions are better for portability and longevity bc of the constant charging cycles.
This is a common problem listed on lenovo forums that lenovo battery life is horrible.
Is there a portable laptop that runs a good part of the day on battery?
2ndly, what are your thoughts on the intel evo/iris combo? When i compare specs to an amd processor and graphics, i often see amd performing better, even on battery life. I feel the the evo/iris combo means well, but limiting. Whats your thoughts?
What brought this all about was my Costco comparison and use of 2 14 inch portable 2 in 1 lenovo laptops that are very similar that i was looking at that also lead me to reasearching other brands in the 14" portable market ($600 to $800 us range) and really hit on the 2 points of poor battery life and the difference of the intel evo and AMD internal processing/gpu specs and their performance.
Computer guidelines use was for home, business, YT movies, not gaming, drawing, and portability, 2 in 1, and price as indicated.
The 2 compared that started me down the rabbit hole and discovery:
Lenovo flex 5 AMD Ryzen™ 7 7730U (8-core) Processor Item 1725651 Model 82XX003YUS
Lenovo flex 7i Intel Evo Platform 13th Gen Intel® Core™ i7-1355U (10-core) processor
Item 1009809 Model 82Y20001US
PS The flex 5, while a tab bit older, performs better and battery last longer. The major diff in performance was the evo had a little more data transfer speed vs the ryzen, but thats not even noticeable.
So in the end, what are the mfrs doing to improve battery life wout having the consumer turn everything off and are u a fan of the evo/ iris comb?
Thanks
I hope your queries get addressed.. I chose Nvidia graphics card over Intel Iris as I wanted to experience the powerful graphics existing in the market.. I wasn't aware that the battery doesn't last longer, but I had to choose a windows laptop over MacBook due to my research requirements, hope my usage will sustain it longer as I don't plan to play heavy games on this laptop, its mostly for programming & reading stuff..
Bought this laptop after watching your previous video on it, I'm still very satisfied with it!
I wish Lenovo would make this laptop with a low-wattage RTX 4080 or 4090. There exists the ThinkPad P1 Gen 6, which has those GPU options, but it's crazy expensive.
Why? You'd be paying MORE for lower performance than other chassis. Look at 4080 g14 or m16. Compare against other bigger body laptop 4080s
They did make, but in a much more premium chasis and better thermal management: Legion 9i.
Bought this one on your recommendation mainly as a business laptop, but returned it after a few weeks.
It was pretty heavy, has very sharp edges, and most irritating booted very slowly after closing the lid. But very annoyingly, the usbC charger didn't accept the set ups at my office. It needs a special charger output via usc C. And the normal charger is way too heavy to haul around
But it is a beautiful machine. Great keyboard. Good screen, and fast touchpad
I bought this laptop but had to return it because it would sporadically stop charging. Oh well.
I had a similar problem. In my case, it was due to a faulty power cord. Once I replaced the power cord, it charged just fine. But, really, Lenovo? I paid over $2,000 for the i9 processor version of this laptop and it arrived with a defective power cord! Not up to the standards I've come to expect from Lenovo.
Yeah what a bummer. And they wanted me to send the whole laptop in to service it. I said forget it and bought something else. @@BCSpecht89
can you also do a review for yoga slim 7i? i cant find a reliable source if its worth the buck
The 14 inch right? I don’t trust like 90% of the other reviewers. I like this guy and jarrod through
@@tommyg4842 the 14 inch, yes. i only watched a few but it shows hes genuine abt his reviews
USB-C does not charge with all chargers. Mine was not charging using the WD19TB dock that outputs 90W but it was charging using a 65W usb-c charger.
Awesome video Josh! Love it as always!
Please review the legion slim 5 14inch laptop
I purchased this laptop a few months ago based on your review of last years model, and I've absolutely loved it! I ended up buying the higher resolution panel, as I enjoy that extra resolution for programming and productivity tasks. For gaming, I tend to use an external monitor anyways, so it ends up not being a big deal.
As for the fan noise, it is actually quite a bit, but I noticed for lighter 1080p gaming it actually is near silent. And having a laptop stand helps a ton.
As for macafee, I never had those popups, perhaps it's because I just uninstalled it in the first 10 minutes of booting up the laptop. But I 100% agree, the bloatware is stupid and ridiculous
This laptop does often go on sale (the bestbuy version going down to about 1800) which is when I bought it, and I am very happy with the purchase overall
How much battery life you got
@@nikhilanandpandit8644 depending on the use, but for light productivity work, easily 6 hours without doing too mcuh related to saving battery like completely minimizing brightness etc.
How is the battery life?
Bro what price you got in INR ?
@@gamingwithprime8059 I purchased it in USD for 2000
Who has used 16 GB soldered + 48 GB in upgradable slot, for Blender, LuxCore, Octane? Is there huge speed hit for rendering or any issues for modeling in Blender using integrated GPU and CPU with huge scenes? I'm stuck between Slim 5 and 7.
Hello! Can you please do a Video on your recommendation for a 17" Laptop to be used to learn or do Programming Projects? Thank You!
Hey Josh!
I’ve bought a HP spectre x360 16 inch 2023 with i7 gen 13 p-series ,32 gb of ram ddr4 for 1500€, what do you think is it a good buy or not?
And also are considering reviewing the 16 inch HP spectre 2023?
Hello Josh... Between this (legion slim 7i 12th gen intel) and the Asus Zephyrus ROG M16 same cpu.. Which would you recommend..
I'd go for this if I can find it at same price as the Asus used here where I stay.. But I still want to get your thoughts..
3:24 "...And for those weird people who like a number pad, this one has one..." 🤣🤣🤣
I love the label for the McAfee segment 😂
They are a disgrace
the mcafee ad looks like windows notification witch is even more misleading.
great review
Since you included the Asus M16 4090 in the charts, how do you feel about that laptop overall? The charts show temps and noise are more under control than this Legion Slim, but does it make too many other tradeoffs for your liking, knowing your attention to detail? The 4070/IPS SKU goes on sale for $1500 regularly at Best Buy, which is a great price for a premium gaming laptop, with the 4080/MiniLED retailing for $2600
Note that it also ships with a 3.2K screen which is so gorgeous!
Do you have it? How does it look :)
no i dont have it@@yazioisttollichbinauchtoll2163
@@yazioisttollichbinauchtoll2163bought it and returned it. The screen is so bad. Because of the super matte display, everything looks washed out and gross.
Absolutely spectacular video. I do plan on getting this on discount. Your time and effort are definitely paying good energy forward.
Grabbed the AMD model for lower temps/better battery life but identical gaming performance - it's perfect IMHO
Ikr...amd seems so much better
How is 4060 and 4070 equal? Is it cos you are gaming on 1080?
Omg someone know how to do battery life test, lol not dumb like those others "tech reviewers"
i bought this laptop 2 weeks before with diffrent varient my resolution is 3200x2000 165hz 100% p3 and 90%adobe rgb the screen is very good as i am studying computer science engeeenering its physically large as well as has high res that helps more lines of code problem ,sadly in india slim pro 9i is not available at all and got it for 1500$ for i7 13700h and rtx 4060 variety with white backlight
Fantastic deal. Great screen
Hi! Is the laptop (with i7-13700h) noisy when not under heavy load (e.g. when browsing/watching UA-cam videos), and what battery life you get?
@violett2811 It's not too bad. At times fans will come on. But they will turn off soon
Is yours amd variant?
@@বেড়াল no coudnt find it
Can we get a video about the new ryzen 7040 laptops? Love your videos!
One is coming end of September actually!
I have the AMD version. The keybord keys W+E+S sounds hollow, drives me nuts when typing. Premium price with non premium keybord feeling.
Thanks Josh, very helpful.
if it had a 4080 option, I would definetly pay 2,k- 2,5k€ for this one (and with AMD CPU)...
which option is better to choose in legion slim 7i - i7 13700h or i9 13900h, which will be the future proof and budget friendly?
I should have bought this laptop when I had the chance but for whatever reason they are all out of stock it's ridiculous like the new model isn't out to replace and it’s not like it was super popular
Here we go again. Were I live I can only find a single model, 8GB 1TB, for the equivalent of 2595$ 🤦🏻♂️
Hi ,if isn't for battery life and all with 4060,Slim 5 /7-7840hs vs Pro 5-7745HX witch is a all in all a better laptop at the same price , or really worth Pro 5-7945HX for 180£ extra?
Please DON'T BUY this Legion Slim 7i 13th Gen laptop. You're limited to Windows 11 OS only. Lenovo provides drivers only for this OS version. You can't install any other Operating Systems on this machine. It has provisions only for two RAM slots and two SSD slots. It generates more heat. I bought one by my wrong decision. Now I regret. Please don't buy this Legion SIim 7i 16IRH8. Will Lenovo provide Drivers for Windows 10, Windows Server, Linux ?
"weird people who like a number pad". that's me. I only buy laptops with number pads as I mainly use it at home. Your review has solidified my decision to buy it.
Get the AMD Version
It has solved almost all the problems of the Intel variant and is overall the much more well-rounded and thought-out product!
Hey, do you mind elaborate on this a little? What issues from the 7i variant are resolved in the AMD version?
My Slim 7 4060 QHD screen got dark edges and therefore not perfect screen uniformity...does yours too? Want a sample data before I return it.. thanks!
It is the forth time they introduce copilot and it never actually comes. The laptops are barely improved and they are so expensive. Microsoft sucks
Wish I kept my i7 slim from last year but nooo. Had to go for qhd. Dam thing stays docked anyway.
Lenovo pro 9i and yoga 9i is definitely on the better side for Intel laptops. I like the low fan noise and build quality. The 7i is a tier below it.
Is the Legion Pro 7i RAM and SSD upgradable? If so, what is the maximum?
I've had it 3 weeks now and I love it! This is definitely the all rounder best laptop I've always been looking for. I use it for work and productivity mostly. Adjusted the settings to the point where it gets me 5 hours of nonstop work on average. The size, weight and keyboard are all great.
The only annoying part is carrying the brick, I couldn't find a USBc 140w charger that would work with it 100% and after a bunch of research found and ordered the official small 135w usbc Lenovo Legion charger
Hi Ali,
I'm confused whether to go for slim 7i or Predator Helios 16. I've heard that slim 7i has screen bleeding issue. Is that true? Which one do you suggest?
I need laptop for video editing, content creation and Data Science.
I got the i9 4070 2k 240hz screen (brighter and faster was more important to me than 3k). My main use is work and productivity, I'm a project manager, but I'm planning to start studying business analysis, so when choosing a laptop, I needed something that will handle Tableau, power bi, etc. I was using a 14 inch and the size was effecting my ability to multitask so i really wanted something bigger but i was hesitant because i was worried about weight, footprint, battery life, etc. After the 1st week with this, I've come to the conclusion that I've finally found the perfect windows laptop and that it would be very difficult to convince me to shift to another line or brand in the future.
The minimum requirements i was looking for were:
Good port selection (including USBA, hdmi 2.1, 2+ thunderbolts), not too heavy, not too thick, good keyboard (numpad is a big plus for me and full size arrow keys is just ❤️), decent or better track pad, 15 inch screen or more with thin bezels, 2k resolution (less is horrible to look at, more is too much and kills battery), bright enough, 120hz minrefresh rate min (multitasking and lots of scrolling with 60hz for too long hurts my eyes), 32 gb ram (exact, no more or less), at least 5 hours battery life or multitasking with medium brightness, good build quality. I was willing to spend up to 2100 to get something that checks all the boxes and would last long.
Every other option in my budget couldn't check all these boxes (yoga pro 9i, xps 15, galaxybook 3 ultra, zenbook 14x oled, etc.)
This is definitely the perfect laptop for every use, productivity, multitasking, programming, gaming, and just about everything else you would want while it stays portable enough. None of the compromises you'll make when buying this over your other choices will be too much that you'll regret. You're sacrificing a very acceptable amount on portability, battery life, temperature, screen quality, and anything else on your requirement list.
I still haven't gamed on it.
My unit had a manufacturing issue where there's a click sound from the chassis every time you pick it up, they gave me a replacement 3 days later that had no issues and I've had no screen bleed.
The one negative I'd complain about is the power brick being heavy and big. It's too inconvenient to carry around. I did some online digging before buying a USBc Gan charger, and many were complaining about what they bought, not working or working sometimes, then not.
After thorough research it turned out that Lenovo China has a very slim and light legion USBc Gan charger that's 135w which is the only option that's 100% guaranteed to work, it's not expensive so I ordered it but it takes long to deliver.
@@alishaverdi332 Thank you Ali for detailed review and explanation.
The only thing that made me think twice was the screen bleed as mentioned by Jarrod's Tech in his review video.
Infact we share the same interest and I'm also learning PowerBi, Tableau, Python and SQL and want a machine which can handle the task loads. I'm also thinking to start a youtube channel to post daily updates so the screeb should also be 100% color accurate. I'm thinking of going with 3k×2k 165hz panel.
I'd like to hear your opinion on that... ☺️☺️
"For those weird people who love a numberpad this has one"
Numberpads on laptops should be abolished. :)
I have been using MacBooks for over a decade and have been an Android user for just as long. Because I'm tired of the friction Apple creates between their products and everyone else's, I'm on the hunt for a Windows laptop. I appreciate all the information you've given. It most definitely helps in making a decision.
As a Samsung user with phones, TVs, tablets, watches, and Smartthings accessories, I'm also looking at Samsung laptops but I'm keeping my options open.
8:14 Amen to that brother.
Listen here boy. Every laptop i see that has good reviews on yoU SHUT ME DOWN (inrpison 16 plus) AND WHEN I FIND A GOOD LAPTOP ITS TOO EXPENSIVE. So when i found an alternative it was this laptop AND IM BACK TO YOU AGAIN. PLS STOP HURTING ME. GIVE ME THIS LAPTOP NOW I DONT DESERVE TO SPEND ANOTHER MINUTE LOOKING FOR LAPTOPS.
Just for you. Tell me what you are looking for. If you want something like the Legion Slim 7i, the following are good options:
Asus Zephyrus G16 (2024) with RTX 4080
@JustJoshTech thank you for taking your time writing this out. I looked at the lenovo legion series and wanted something like the Legion Slim 5 16" 4060 with AMD Ryzen™ 7 8845HS.
Moving on to what my friend and I were looking for:
Bugdet: under $1300
CPU: I7 (12th to 14th) or Ryzen 7
GPU: 4050 or 4060
Storage: 1TB
Memory: 16gb
Display: 15" to 16" and FHD+ to 2.5k (preferably 120hz+)
Options i looked at such as the Dell inspiron 16 plus and HP Envy 2-in-1 had what I wanted but reviews were bad :(.
I am going to be using this laptop for Computer Science in College and for light gaming.
Thank you.
@JustJoshTech Your recommendations have helped me greatly, and I actually decided on the ASUS Vivobook pro 15 GEN 9 M6500XV (which has the AMD chipset) for a balance between work and games. Please make a review about it as there are very limited reviews on this product!!
Thanks for noting that in the real world people who work and have credit are the ones buying these, not 16-21 year olds. Myself and many of my coworkers at software startups are the ones who look at and use laptops like this not just to play video games all day. These are for Mobile work in Graphic Design/Web Design and Programming and 3D Editing software. And of course the occasional gaming if you don't already have a desktop or console device for playing a "video game".
Can you please make a video on how to get rid of those nasty ads, i love your vids and recommendations!
if i get the 3.2k …u mention the gpu will suffer …can’t i just turn down the res in game ??????????????????
Josh what do you think this compared to ThinkBook 16p? Many says that it’s almost identical to legion slim 7i 🤔
Funny thing is the Lenovo Legion 5 Pro with Ryzen 7745HX has an amazingly color accurate and bright HDR 400/500Nit+ 2560X1600 screen. Interesting.
Hello, I 've had this laptop for a month but I am looking for a usbc charger and people say it is only 20v 7 but cant find one, do you recommend one? or can I use a 20v 5a?
Thanks,
The current pricing for this exact laptop is $1749 though, which seems well worth its price.
what do ya think josh?
Can you solve battery hot issue ?
especially on right palm rest
Will buy a Legion laptop when they move the keyboard to the center.
"The webcam on this laptop is not that good" lmao. killed me. that's it. no need to explain further
Hi Josh please help to choose: lenovo ideapad slim 5-14inch or Hp pavillion 14 ? Thanks!
Wybieram laptopa do nauki programowania na front-endzie. Moje finanse są ograniczone, więc ważne jest, aby skupić się na producentach, którzy nie należą do elitarnych marek. Stąd zalecenie, aby rozważyć oferty od Gygabyte, Hyperbook i Dreammachines.
You going to review the new legion slim 5 14" 4060 by any chance?
with this cost we can buy macbook over this laptop right ???
Hey Josh!
I have a question should i get the asus m16 rtx4070 or legion slim 7i?
May god bless you❤️
Nice review! I’m torn between this one and the MSI stealth 16 studio, with almost identical specs which one would you recommend?
this model looks alomost identical to thinkbook 16p, except for the 16p has an even better keyboard!
If battery life (at least 6-7 hours) and gaming performance is important, what do I choose? Slim 7i i9 4070 or Slim 7 ADM 4060?
amd
Thanks for this honest review! At first I thought it'd be only positives so I appreciate the criticisms even more!
I picked up that same review model on sale for $1700, total $1900 after taxes.
Love it.
How are surface temps when stressed?