What is Physicalism?
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Physicalism is self-refuting.
I don't believe it is. I can't see how, and no one has given me a clear explanation of how it is.
@@someonesomeone25I get it. You believe in physicalism. It's become your religion.
You've been given a clear explanation but those who choose not to remove their blindfolds will not see.
As the saying goes "you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink."
@mugsofmirth8101 You haven't given me a clear explanation of why it's self-refuting that works. You said it was self refuting because physicalism is an idea and Ideas aren't physical, but within physicalism ideas are reducible to brain chemistry, thus it isn't self-refuting (though it could be wrong).
@@someonesomeone25 Nope, I've made it so abundantly clear in fact that you were able to paraphrase what I said (until you misquoted me - thus demonstrating your dishonesty). The "ideas as brain chemistry" talking point you're parroting is merely a reactionary stance that materialists take when flaws in their ideology is exposed. You're not the first to try this tactic and I suspect you already know this but are doing it anyway. Shameless.
@@mugsofmirth8101 So, to be clear, you think that if materialism posits that everything, including ideas, are reducible to matter, then it is self-defeating?
How?
'Physicalism posits that the laws of physics cannot fully explain the entire universe and anything in it.
It shares with 'materialism' the denial that God exists.
Both worldviews are man-made, and self-refuting.
Blessings.
Pastor John
I'm curious how materialism is self-refuting.
@@someonesomeone25 Materialism/Physicalism posits that ONLY physical objects exist.
Materialism/Physicalism are ideologies, NOT physical objects. Therefore it is self-refuting.
@@someonesomeone25 If materialism is true, it undermines its own foundation by failing to provide a satisfactory explanation for the non-physical aspects of human experience and cognition.
@mugsofmirth8101 Not quite. It posits that everything is reducible to matter/energy or the forces of nature. Under materialism Ideas would be reducible to brain chemistry. So that's not self refuting.
@les2997 There are none. Consciousness is reducible to brain activity.
I always love listening to Dr Craig . Even though I don't call myself religious.
I like how open minded you are
Many religious people don't call themselves "religious". Particularly Christians. Many of them often claim their faith is not a religion but rather " a relationship with Christ" or some similar deflection. That's not to say that everyone who believes in a deity or "higher power" is strictly religious (in the sense of attending to a particular church or even advocating for the idea of organized religion). Indeed it is possible to hold such beliefs and not be religious, but this is not the case with people who attend church and/or adhere to religious traditions such as Christianity.
This doesn't take into account the possibility that the Physical world IS the gross manifistation of Divine Spirit itself.
(Supposing over believes in God)
And we are that conscious Devine spirit,
as far as we are able & willing.
The view you expressed is quite similar to a pantheistic concept. The difference being that The Universe is in fact MORE than just the physical world. There is an immaterial world as well to be considered.
Hello Dr.Craig or RF team, thank you for the video. I have follow up questions.
How could one then go about refuting this non-reductive physicalism in favor of dualism ?? What more plausible model can dualism offer ?? .
BR
First, you assume that a god exists. Then you assume that it gave us a soul. Then you ignore all the evidence showing that our ability to think is a function of our brain. Then you assume that we must have a supernatural soul driving our brains.
@@somerandom3247 No god to supernatural force was mentioned in the OP.
Instead, dualism is mentioned.
What is the difference between physicalism and materialism?
The way they're spelled and pronounced. That's literally the only difference.
@@user-ei9ns9hq6b Thanks for explaining.
Physicalism can sometimes be a synonym, or sometimes be used to avoid confusion over things like spacetime or energy or forces. Basically, both posit that everything is physical or an interaction between physical things, though that includes time and gravity and quarks and so on. If you are talking to a materialist or a physicalist it's best to ask for clarity on their specific position.
Does God exist? What is the point of explaining to an atheist if God is physical or not physical if they don't accept God exists? It's like debating with an atheist if Jesus Christ resurrected when the debate if God exists has not been settled yet. It's like teaching a baby who doesn't walk yet how to run. For an atheist the only debate that should matter is "was the universe created from an intelligent entity?". For the moment who or what is this God doesn’t matter. For the moment what matters is to establish with arguments if God exists or not. Atheism is the belief that all reality is created or caused, and that's why atheists remark "who created god?". For atheists intelligence is created from non intelligence. Is atheism the truth? Is reality how atheists say it is? Bear in mind I am talking about the debate atheists avoid because they don't have any arguments. To understand God exists you have to understand reality is eternal because from nothing can not be created something. Nothing is absence of existence. Nothing is what innocent and vulnerable children understand by nothing. Something minus something is nothing. Nothing is what you get explaining to deaf ears. Nothing is what you receive when you give to ungrateful people. You have one apple you eat one apple and you have nothing. Something always existed. Do you accept reality is eternal? If you don't accept reality is eternal unfortunately the debate ends here because there is no point in trying to persuade you that that something that is eternal is God. Creation is what has a beginning of existence, like for example you, you didn't exist before you were born. Either what has a beginning of existence is eternal or what created what has a beginning of existence is eternal. Either the universe is eternal or God is eternal. To understand God exists you have to understand it is better for you if God exists because for atheists life lacks an ultimate purpose and death is terrifying. Atheism is a logical fallacy that assumes God is the religious idea of the creator of the creation to conclude wrongly no creator exists because a particular idea of God doesn’t exist. To end the war the discovery that atheism is a logical fallacy has to be news. Thank you.
I find it more palatable and less terrifying as a nihilist than I did when I was a Christian. But, no, I don't think God exists.
Physicalism also goes by Materialism or sometimes Naturalism, but I have mostly just heard it be called Materialism or Physicalism.
Yes these words are often used interchangeably. However, while physicalism and materialism are identical; naturalism is not quite. It is possible to be a naturalist but not a materialist/physicalist. They are in fact not mutually exclusive.
Materialism and physicalism aren't always synonymous, but usually are.
I used to listen to WLC a lot when I was a Christian. Now I'm a physicalist nihilist.
I used to be a Deist Nihilist, now Im a Catholci revert.
@@balkananimations6389 What is a deist nihilist?
@@someonesomeone25 someone who holds both views: deism and nihilism. Obviously! 😅
@user-ei9ns9hq6b LOL. I mean, it just odd to be a diest and a nihilist. Nihilism comes in many flavours, usually atheistic. I'm interested in what deistic nihilism entails. Freewill? Morality? Afterlife? Etc.
I've listened to WLC for years and I am perplexed at his ability to "dodge" questions and constantly go down "rabbit holes" so whoever is trying to follow him usually falls asleep or forgets what the original question was because he really knows how to do this whole "circle of confusion" that all Calvinists do in order to keep you asking, "what is the point?" WLC is a teacher of FALSE DOCTRINE, just like the Apostle warned about in the NT! Run Away From Calvinist Teaching-It Is From SATAN!