I know exactly why this video was recommended to me. I agree with everything you said here. It’s like I’m hearing my thoughts. I’m not an art school graduate, I’m an architect, but where I live it’s part of the art school, so I’m familiar with the academic environment you’re talking about. Another difference is that I’m already in the job market. I worked in my profession and it doesn’t making any better. I still feel exactly how you described it. I sometimes regret my choice of studies. Why didn’t I study economics or IT? I had the grades for it… but the truth is that I know why I made that decision. It was with my own interest in mind. I just didn’t have all the information I do now. Yeah, admitting your parents were right is kind of hard, but it is a luxurious problem to have - „shit, I rejected what society was pushing me to do and went for what my heart was telling me to do”. Even if it backfires, we still have that. We still know we acted in accordance with our values. That being said, I completely agree with what you say about the art school. I see the same effect in myself after the architecture school. Art, design, any creative endeavor really, is now a calculated effort. It’s still valuable, but it lost its core value to me. It used to be about fun, raw emotion, intuition, relaxation… Now it’s about hitting the right audience, fitting into the zeitgeist while making it profitable. It’s dull. It’s hypocritical, when all you’d been learning in academia was about defying the current state of affairs. I’m fucking going for tech now, when 10 years ago I’d puke at a thought of it. But I just fucking can’t. It’s tiring. I want to be back to drawing stupid portraits or doing linocuts of fantasy characters. I can’t hear any more of the word salad coming from my architect friends mouths. It’s not high art. It’s still part of the capitalistic nightmare we’re living. It lives by its rules…. So what difference does it make if I’m an accountant? Ironically, I think I could live my life more authentically if I dropped the creative field and got a mundane job, completely unrelated to my passions. Sorry for this rant. I just felt like I listened to myself listening to you. It awakened all the emotions I’ve had the past couple of years…
Thank you for such a validating and succinct response-especially the paragraph about art school! Now I constantly have this voice in my head that is like, "Okay, what can I make that the general audience would receive well?" Art school really permanently reorients your brain, makes it nearly impossible to have fun and there's no going back... this voice in my head will always stay with me... But I've been trying to find it again by picking up tattooing postgrad, and it's the most fun I've had with art in a longgg time, but will never be considered high art... And your tech comment makes me laugh, because I fear it may be the direction I will also be headed in, which would delight my parents but even if they give me an 'I told you so' look I know that my interest in tech was a conclusion that I had to arrive to by myself as an artist, not in the ways they tried to project it onto me as a child Best of luck to you and your endeavors!
@ Thank YOU! I needed to see your video. I also wish you all the best, whichever way you end up going. Tattooing sounds very fun and maybe it will help you rewire your brain a bit after academia. I think striking a balance between commitment to „high” and „low” art was very helpful to me. I had to force it, but I see some improvement. One day, I hope to be able to completely dismantle that division in my head, and maybe I’ll also look at my experience with art school in a much better light than I do now. For now, I’m afraid it’s tech 😂
This got suggested to me at the right time. I recently graduated in December last year, with a degree in arts related field from one of the top universities in my country. I got really good grades too but now that I'm done, I feel incredibly lost. I don't have the family ties or connections to get me into positions, and my people skills are not up to the mark to find these opportunities and be on the lookout for them all the time. I did find a really good group of people in art university but that's about it. I'm so lost now and I don't know what the future looks like. I low-key envy people who studied and chose traditional careers because they have surety to some extent. Wishing for the best currently, and wishing the same for you, hopefully we can find a way to love art as we always have, find a way to sustain ourselves too in this very fast and unfair world.
I feel you so much. while it may not feel the best studying something unrelated to your passion im sure on the other hand it also feels good to be working towards something you don't have to be emotionally invested in 24/7, with the assurance that there is a step-by-step process to follow
I switched my art major to psychology not long ago and honestly I miss it. the people my passion and life goal has been all over the place, I felt so uncertain about art so I decided to leave it, my parent always wanted me to go for a stable career so i decided to go for that. I miss it everyday, I miss the people I feel so out of place now that I’m out of it, but to choose something right out of high school isn’t something anyone should do in my opinion and that’s what I chose I still might not know what to do but I know I want to learn more stuff Know that you are always an artist no matter your job, you should take time to see how to monetize your career or see any similar career. I really do get your point and relate to it so much, do know it’s normal to feel that way, I don’t have much answers for it either but I really hope you get through it Also I love your nails and your hair ! Your style is amazing!!
Thank you so much!! Best of luck to you too, you got this! And remember we are still sooo young and we have the power to make what we did in undergrad trivial in the grand scheme of our lives :')
word for word are you me , except i graduated csm fine art.In my next life i am a media strategist or data analyst wearing rick owens. On a serious note tho graduate life is so bleak rn, you're in limbo for a time and then you move on to the next step. Like the only thing to do now is focus on what you have control over.
I know exactly why this video was recommended to me. I agree with everything you said here. It’s like I’m hearing my thoughts.
I’m not an art school graduate, I’m an architect, but where I live it’s part of the art school, so I’m familiar with the academic environment you’re talking about. Another difference is that I’m already in the job market. I worked in my profession and it doesn’t making any better. I still feel exactly how you described it.
I sometimes regret my choice of studies. Why didn’t I study economics or IT? I had the grades for it… but the truth is that I know why I made that decision. It was with my own interest in mind. I just didn’t have all the information I do now.
Yeah, admitting your parents were right is kind of hard, but it is a luxurious problem to have - „shit, I rejected what society was pushing me to do and went for what my heart was telling me to do”. Even if it backfires, we still have that. We still know we acted in accordance with our values.
That being said, I completely agree with what you say about the art school. I see the same effect in myself after the architecture school. Art, design, any creative endeavor really, is now a calculated effort. It’s still valuable, but it lost its core value to me. It used to be about fun, raw emotion, intuition, relaxation… Now it’s about hitting the right audience, fitting into the zeitgeist while making it profitable. It’s dull. It’s hypocritical, when all you’d been learning in academia was about defying the current state of affairs.
I’m fucking going for tech now, when 10 years ago I’d puke at a thought of it. But I just fucking can’t. It’s tiring. I want to be back to drawing stupid portraits or doing linocuts of fantasy characters. I can’t hear any more of the word salad coming from my architect friends mouths. It’s not high art. It’s still part of the capitalistic nightmare we’re living. It lives by its rules…. So what difference does it make if I’m an accountant? Ironically, I think I could live my life more authentically if I dropped the creative field and got a mundane job, completely unrelated to my passions.
Sorry for this rant. I just felt like I listened to myself listening to you. It awakened all the emotions I’ve had the past couple of years…
Thank you for such a validating and succinct response-especially the paragraph about art school! Now I constantly have this voice in my head that is like, "Okay, what can I make that the general audience would receive well?" Art school really permanently reorients your brain, makes it nearly impossible to have fun and there's no going back... this voice in my head will always stay with me... But I've been trying to find it again by picking up tattooing postgrad, and it's the most fun I've had with art in a longgg time, but will never be considered high art...
And your tech comment makes me laugh, because I fear it may be the direction I will also be headed in, which would delight my parents but even if they give me an 'I told you so' look I know that my interest in tech was a conclusion that I had to arrive to by myself as an artist, not in the ways they tried to project it onto me as a child
Best of luck to you and your endeavors!
@ Thank YOU! I needed to see your video.
I also wish you all the best, whichever way you end up going. Tattooing sounds very fun and maybe it will help you rewire your brain a bit after academia. I think striking a balance between commitment to „high” and „low” art was very helpful to me. I had to force it, but I see some improvement. One day, I hope to be able to completely dismantle that division in my head, and maybe I’ll also look at my experience with art school in a much better light than I do now.
For now, I’m afraid it’s tech 😂
exactly like
This got suggested to me at the right time. I recently graduated in December last year, with a degree in arts related field from one of the top universities in my country.
I got really good grades too but now that I'm done, I feel incredibly lost. I don't have the family ties or connections to get me into positions, and my people skills are not up to the mark to find these opportunities and be on the lookout for them all the time.
I did find a really good group of people in art university but that's about it. I'm so lost now and I don't know what the future looks like. I low-key envy people who studied and chose traditional careers because they have surety to some extent.
Wishing for the best currently, and wishing the same for you, hopefully we can find a way to love art as we always have, find a way to sustain ourselves too in this very fast and unfair world.
I feel you so much. while it may not feel the best studying something unrelated to your passion im sure on the other hand it also feels good to be working towards something you don't have to be emotionally invested in 24/7, with the assurance that there is a step-by-step process to follow
I switched my art major to psychology not long ago and honestly I miss it. the people my passion and life goal has been all over the place, I felt so uncertain about art so I decided to leave it, my parent always wanted me to go for a stable career so i decided to go for that.
I miss it everyday, I miss the people I feel so out of place now that I’m out of it, but to choose something right out of high school isn’t something anyone should do in my opinion and that’s what I chose
I still might not know what to do but I know I want to learn more stuff
Know that you are always an artist no matter your job, you should take time to see how to monetize your career or see any similar career.
I really do get your point and relate to it so much, do know it’s normal to feel that way, I don’t have much answers for it either but I really hope you get through it
Also I love your nails and your hair ! Your style is amazing!!
Thank you so much!! Best of luck to you too, you got this! And remember we are still sooo young and we have the power to make what we did in undergrad trivial in the grand scheme of our lives :')
word for word are you me , except i graduated csm fine art.In my next life i am a media strategist or data analyst wearing rick owens. On a serious note tho graduate life is so bleak rn, you're in limbo for a time and then you move on to the next step. Like the only thing to do now is focus on what you have control over.
did not expect anyone to watch this much less comment 😭 i'm glad you can relate artist to artist we're in this together
Jeez bro, i really wanted to give this video a try but this vocal fry is unbearable
sorry i was whispering because my roommate was sleeping and our walls are really thin 😅