Espresso Pucks: What Matters & What Doesn't

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  • @andycleary
    @andycleary 2 роки тому +63

    Hands down the best no BS video about home brewing I have watched. Thank you very much.

  • @limer4330
    @limer4330 3 роки тому +139

    I love it when someone does the work upfront to demystify things like this so the rest of us don't have to. This video gave me confidence. People should be forced to watch this before they add a machine to their cart.

    • @nomadsolos
      @nomadsolos Рік тому +1

      learning the art & craft is a part of the journey. Embrace it.

  • @longtermtech
    @longtermtech 3 роки тому +57

    Finally, YT coffee videos that are to the point, helpful and not filled with waffle.

  • @FajorMuckup
    @FajorMuckup 4 роки тому +160

    "swirling around in your grouphead" earned my subscription 😂

  • @RealSavages
    @RealSavages Рік тому +23

    Bro... I subscribed just because you were so direct and clear in your presentation. Being concise is a lost art. Well done. 👍🏻☕️

  • @mtnhack
    @mtnhack 4 роки тому +281

    That boy's got a smooth delivery. Maybe audiobook narration is in his future.

    • @user-qw8fe6wp7k
      @user-qw8fe6wp7k 4 роки тому +3

      Yes is very nice, he remind me Freddie Highmore!

    • @adamcarpenter8549
      @adamcarpenter8549 3 роки тому +9

      No lie. My heart rate reduced watching this despite the espresso in my hand.

    • @JCRule69
      @JCRule69 3 роки тому +2

      Its the very reason subbed.

    • @aashishtmg5985
      @aashishtmg5985 3 роки тому

      Yeah his voice is smooth...

    • @etatsopa
      @etatsopa 3 роки тому +1

      Once you hear the mouth sounds though you can’t unhear them

  • @sherifmahmoud6523
    @sherifmahmoud6523 Рік тому +12

    Short, straight to the point , without any useless information , thank you so much !

  • @johndarland3633
    @johndarland3633 4 роки тому +104

    Interesting how all these coffee buffs are extremely relaxed.

    • @blizzbee
      @blizzbee 4 роки тому +23

      lol caffeine couldn't do anything to them anymore.

    • @JordanCrawfordSF
      @JordanCrawfordSF 4 роки тому +6

      After 12 shots in 1 day, you’ve experienced heaven.

    • @paviaaPS3
      @paviaaPS3 3 роки тому +1

      Jordan Crawford so true, it’s better than heaven

    • @johndarland3633
      @johndarland3633 3 роки тому +3

      @@JordanCrawfordSF ha ye cuz you've had a heart attack and died and revived.

    • @tommyp4630
      @tommyp4630 3 роки тому +1

      It's because they are all doing what they love 💕 ☕

  • @caretakerfochr3834
    @caretakerfochr3834 5 місяців тому +1

    Hands down the best, most straightforward coffee vid that bursts the balloon of vids posing as arcane coffee lore on the net.

  • @sjhsjh2958
    @sjhsjh2958 4 роки тому +7

    Straight to the point with excellent content., wish all UA-camrs can be like u!

  • @giulianahejtmanek
    @giulianahejtmanek 4 роки тому +5

    Very concise, informative, and even relaxing - thanks for the wonderful video!

  • @dmytrenkovolodymyr
    @dmytrenkovolodymyr 2 роки тому +1

    Thanks for a great and informative video. 4 minutes of valuable info. All the best Clive!

  • @mrwezbo
    @mrwezbo 5 місяців тому

    Short, sharp and too the point. Really appreciate this video thank you.

  • @kingofthegoats245
    @kingofthegoats245 2 роки тому +2

    Seriously excellent presentation skills. I heard not a single filler word; good job!

  • @jaxthename
    @jaxthename 7 місяців тому

    Good delivery. Relevant. Precise.

  • @oualidtrabelsi5784
    @oualidtrabelsi5784 Рік тому +1

    By far the best video on the subject. No BS and straight to the point!

  • @NilfNilf1972
    @NilfNilf1972 2 роки тому +18

    Thank you!!! This is down-to-earth, competent, applicable information; and your not afraid to debunk the myths. really helpful.

  • @philiproszak1678
    @philiproszak1678 Рік тому

    Thank you. So refreshing to get clear info quickly.

  • @ArofahAkbar
    @ArofahAkbar 2 роки тому +6

    Very informative and directly to the point; I like the "What doesn't...".
    For the beginners, this is remove some overthinking in my mind.

  • @user-ne8wq8vp8s
    @user-ne8wq8vp8s 10 місяців тому +1

    This is the most correct and informative video on commercial coffee I have watched on the net.

    • @clivecoffee
      @clivecoffee  10 місяців тому

      thank you. glad you enjoyed it.

  • @abdulrazzaq3841
    @abdulrazzaq3841 2 роки тому +2

    This has to be the most accurate video and simplest to save yourself from online misconceptions.

  • @3ZO0
    @3ZO0 4 роки тому

    As always, you guys help us to do better coffee.. thank you and good luck

  • @del22marcus
    @del22marcus 3 роки тому +1

    Oh yes great video demystifying tamping, dosing and baskets thank you

  • @ptr3671
    @ptr3671 4 роки тому +2

    Loved the closing

  • @ITR994
    @ITR994 Рік тому

    I love the script that you used to describe the nuances and to clarify the best advice. Thanks for the work to explain

  • @FILMERFILMS
    @FILMERFILMS 4 роки тому +3

    Precision in the presentation makes it so crisp.

    • @transitory3368
      @transitory3368 2 роки тому

      presentation was filtered with a VST basket

  • @danielirvine7468
    @danielirvine7468 2 роки тому

    This is very well produced guys great job

  • @ivanr9408
    @ivanr9408 Рік тому

    short sweet and to the point. thank you.

  • @Hassan_9
    @Hassan_9 4 роки тому +6

    This video did answer some questions in my grouphead. 😂 Liked and subscribed

  • @PaulLemars01
    @PaulLemars01 2 роки тому +4

    Ok, got yourself a new sub. Learning to use my basic Gaggia Classic Pro with a VST 18g basket and the OPV spring mod and my pucks are always a little damp and I needed to know if it was a problem. Thanks for answering that. Very nice presentation, looking forward to more of the same.

    • @Oscarr3813
      @Oscarr3813 2 роки тому

      Hi,
      I currently have a problem with my crema using the Gaggia Classic Pro. It always turn out dark and lots of bubbles. Do you have any ideas? Thanks in advance

  • @jontopham2742
    @jontopham2742 4 роки тому

    wow some good technical information, I like this channel

  • @punitdave7034
    @punitdave7034 3 роки тому

    this topic was very much needed

  • @annaeeee7516
    @annaeeee7516 Рік тому

    Thank you for making this video! It answered all of my questions as a new espresso machine user 😄

  • @AuroraClair
    @AuroraClair 4 роки тому +29

    I'm just here to see that coffee flow.. Oh yeah.. xD

  • @artmercado1735
    @artmercado1735 Рік тому

    thank you VERY informative

  • @johnkeegan6646
    @johnkeegan6646 4 роки тому

    Informative video. Thanks!

  • @DrAlvinEng
    @DrAlvinEng 2 роки тому

    Great informative video! Thank you!

  • @kennylim136
    @kennylim136 2 роки тому

    Very straight to the point....thanks!

  • @orrinbelcher6593
    @orrinbelcher6593 3 роки тому

    Nice video, fun and informative, thank you

  • @318h7
    @318h7 2 роки тому +1

    great video, just what I needed, thanks! ❤️

  • @angelahagood3639
    @angelahagood3639 Рік тому

    Thank you for your advice! I’m new to making espresso at home and my machine is nowhere as nice as the one I used as a barista. Whew! You answered all my questions. 🙌🏻☕️💕

  • @Gluodin
    @Gluodin 3 роки тому

    The ridge simply helps the basket get a grip from the spring in your portafilter -> zooms in to show there’s no spring in portafilter.
    Great channel. Instantly subbed.

    • @nolanreed7090
      @nolanreed7090 3 роки тому +3

      There is: 1:33 -- you can see a little metal bar around the circumference of the inside of the portafilter which extends out slightly at ~1 o'clock, 5 o'clock, and 8 o'clock. That bar is flexible and interacts with the basket ridge to help hold it in place

    • @user-ng6tk6qm5h
      @user-ng6tk6qm5h 2 місяці тому

      R U blind? There is a spring

  • @daveygal1
    @daveygal1 2 місяці тому

    Thank you very much, I’m new this and I’m already up the wall confused, now if my coffee tastes ok I’m not bothered about nothing 👍

  • @barefootgypsyboutique2542
    @barefootgypsyboutique2542 Рік тому

    Thank you ! This was great !!

  • @fluffycritter
    @fluffycritter 2 роки тому +2

    THANK YOU, I am so annoyed and fed up with espresso “experts” who are all parroting different contradictory religious things about things that really don’t matter, while ignoring the important issues about what makes the coffee come out well. I’ve wasted so much money trying to follow the advice of folks on r/espresso.

  • @jeromerussellewis
    @jeromerussellewis Рік тому +1

    Great video clear and concise 😺🙏👍

  • @ahmadmursyidiadzmi8201
    @ahmadmursyidiadzmi8201 3 роки тому

    Man I only have pressurised porta for now, so all these don't really matter to me but your sense of humour does!

  • @dancitydancestudios
    @dancitydancestudios Рік тому +2

    Finally a video that treats coffee as a drink and not a science project

  • @JonathanWayneAndress
    @JonathanWayneAndress 2 роки тому

    Thanks for the expresso tips! Well made channel from a video standpoint! Flip that mic upsidedown and route the wire through the clip to make a cleaner look on the shirt. Its a omnidirectional mic, so it wont change your audio quality, just look much better.

  • @TheSunnySideofCoffee
    @TheSunnySideofCoffee 3 роки тому

    Wow that shot was fantastic!

  • @shellyfriedrich5426
    @shellyfriedrich5426 2 роки тому

    Very helpful thank you!

  • @josephasghar
    @josephasghar 4 місяці тому

    At last, a common-sense and to-the-point video. Great tips. Thanks.

  • @andryszak.webdesign
    @andryszak.webdesign 3 роки тому +5

    "press that puck through your counter..." :D +1

  • @hassanbazzi3545
    @hassanbazzi3545 Рік тому

    Well done. Thank you for sharing

  • @LUZ-zv6pq
    @LUZ-zv6pq 4 роки тому

    The line is usually just for the retaining spring to sit against in the portafilter but does work nicely as a marker. VST shower plates have a membrane to help stop oils getting pulled back through to the other side, collecting and affecting taste.. pretty good (if they work..). The baskets are a bit of a gimmick. Nice groups on an ECM mechanical pre-infusion too 😉

  • @teddywilliamson3547
    @teddywilliamson3547 5 місяців тому +1

    I bet this dudes sock drawer is really NEAT.

  • @Xabeno
    @Xabeno 4 роки тому +2

    Something that your puck may tell you - over or under dosing. If you place your dry puck into your machine and then remove (without brewing) and your puck has an impression from the shower screen or screw, you may be dosing to high and this can lead to channeling. If your shot starts drippy but then runs very fast towards the end you may be under-dosing our basket. Also vst make a 25g basket but disregard the single, double and triple lingo simply use brew ratio instead, a good way to start is 1:2 dose to yield and keep in mind head space within the basket as a deciding factor when choosing a basket size.

  • @gabrielsvl
    @gabrielsvl 3 роки тому +4

    I've a rancilio silvia, used before the standard basket, 14g, but brew always 15g, the puck was always dry. Then I've bought a IMS competition basket, 16/20 grams. I've changed my grind settings for finer, and more coffee, 18 grams, and now the coffee is better, have a really nice crema, but the puck is wet. The shot is better now, I think it's ok, I don't have channels...

  • @cpg8000
    @cpg8000 2 роки тому +1

    Nobody, and I mean nobody, does videos as polished, professional, and useful as Clive. Thanks for the intelligent and terse presentation.

  • @hynroster
    @hynroster 4 роки тому

    Nice video, thank you.

  • @chantellebrizzee
    @chantellebrizzee 4 роки тому +5

    This was super helpful - thank you! Where is that gorgeous shot glass from?! NVM - found it on your website. I love it!!

  • @timotoropainen7733
    @timotoropainen7733 3 роки тому

    Wow! This was a really good and helpful video.

  • @Mahyuddin-cf
    @Mahyuddin-cf 3 роки тому +2

    thank you for making the coffee machine product that means you have helped us indirectly as coffee farmers

    • @bigglyguy8429
      @bigglyguy8429 3 роки тому +1

      We love you guys! Thanks for your hard work and the care you put into bringing us great beans :D

  • @ericzohar1345
    @ericzohar1345 4 роки тому +1

    Amazing and knowledgable..no b.s..

  • @jesusvera8612
    @jesusvera8612 4 місяці тому

    Man, i was just thinking of buying an espresso machine and randomly found this channel, insta suscribed, im gonna do my research first.

    • @clivecoffee
      @clivecoffee  3 місяці тому

      Feel free to reach out to us if you have any questions!

  • @T1k3mys0n
    @T1k3mys0n 4 роки тому +5

    Imo wet puck is because the basket needs more ground coffee in it. It mostly happens to me when I use 7 gram in a single basket. While if I use 14g in single or 20 in double basket, the puck will be formed nicely even with grids on it because it's full of ground coffee and when water enters will increase volume thus touch the upper ceiling of the filter in the machine where the water flows

  • @nicolasbusse
    @nicolasbusse 4 роки тому

    Very professional

  • @AimconCoUk
    @AimconCoUk Рік тому

    "In my group head" 😃 love it.

  • @stevestewart-sturges2159
    @stevestewart-sturges2159 4 роки тому

    Thank you! I learnt something today...that ridge in the basket isn't for dosing... now I feel like a thicko...

  • @georgekataoka605
    @georgekataoka605 4 роки тому +9

    Just because you said "Tamp Subscribe", i subscribed.

  • @jjg19631
    @jjg19631 4 роки тому

    Always informative 👍🏻. So always exact the dose of the basket?

    • @MindlessO_o
      @MindlessO_o 4 роки тому +1

      Jeroen Geurtsen The espresso game is all about consistency. So, yes. You are better off asking the people who roast your coffee about their preferred coffee recipe. Which is: grams in (coffee grounds in basket) and grams out (espresso shot) to get the best out of your coffee :)

  • @LesliesDemos
    @LesliesDemos 4 роки тому +2

    I use a VST 20g basket with a BZ10 machine & Ceado grinder. When I use the full 20g, the puck will swell into the screen and this seems to encourage channeling. A finer grind compacts more, but chokes. So I end up using 17 -18g instead in the 20g VST. But your vid says to use the proper spec dose for those baskets. Is it okay for a swollen puck to touch the shower screen?

  • @nomadsolos
    @nomadsolos 3 роки тому +1

    So far Clive Coffee I give you 5 *s ! I have learned more in a few of your videos than dozens of others I have seen on the subject. Thank you.

    • @clivecoffee
      @clivecoffee  3 роки тому

      Thanks so much for the kind words!

  • @nasohasman344
    @nasohasman344 Рік тому

    Hey like your video. I hv a questions, my espresso pucks look watery. Why is that? The coffee bean is to fine? Did I need to adjust to be a little bit course?

  • @Raggo12345
    @Raggo12345 Рік тому +1

    Great video! Was worried about not tamping hard enough...
    I'm down to 13 grams of coffe again, and light tamping. On my machine it gives better results. (A hand lever machine.) Am now also trying to do a longer soak time, up to 20-30 seconds, to get more flavour and more liquid, since it isn't enough, otherwise.
    You're right, it's what's in the cup that matters. -
    Perfect advice!

  • @johnayres2303
    @johnayres2303 3 роки тому +7

    I find with a precision VST basket to get my extraction time right I had to grind much finer than for the standard basket, too fine in my opinion.

    • @Squilliam-Fancyson
      @Squilliam-Fancyson Рік тому

      Also got a VST and this is totally normal. As the VST has a higher hole density than most baskets it allows more water to exit the basket. Also an increased gap between shower screen and coffeepuck(because of the deepness of big VST baskets) could cause a too fast extraction. There should be a gap of course but in optimum case, its just big enough for the puck to swell. Imo a 15g VST needs at least 17g of grinded coffee to function like intended. A puckscreen also helps with decreasing gap(if higher coffee dosing is not wanted) to the shower while also providing better water distribution during extraction.

  • @dekdelacruz
    @dekdelacruz 4 місяці тому

    Very helpful

  • @420HEADY
    @420HEADY Рік тому

    Awesome video

  • @chrisruss8332
    @chrisruss8332 4 роки тому +2

    What’s the best way to know your dose is correct? I have an 18g basket but the thumb press test post extraction feels very soft. I find to get a firmer thumb feel I have to up the dose closer to 21ish grams. Have I been doing this correctly?

  • @mohammedkendassa3383
    @mohammedkendassa3383 4 роки тому

    I like the wood knobs. Which color are those? Maple or Bubinga?

  • @ErwinTheBolocBoloc
    @ErwinTheBolocBoloc 3 роки тому

    Watching From The Philippines!! 🇵🇭

    • @fredwilson1191
      @fredwilson1191 3 роки тому

      I'm an American, retired in the US in 2015 and moved to the Philippines (central Luzon) so have been here almost 6 years now.
      Cheers :)

  • @TheYoyoma3
    @TheYoyoma3 Рік тому

    Great video thanks! QQ…I have a 18g IMS basket….does that mean I should never put more than 18g in?

  • @christopherma1718
    @christopherma1718 4 роки тому

    what bottomless portafilter are you using? really like the wood aesthetic

  • @sjz3086
    @sjz3086 2 роки тому

    This is very informative video. I got a question for all coffee lover, will water temperature in water tank matter? I have a basic manual espresso maker here, water temperature inside water tank is keep rising when I'm doing the routine of making espresso, then steaming. I measure the temperature inside the tank, it could get to 65C, I am not sure this is normal or not. will it affect the taste of espresso. Thanks.

  • @MarcesAurelius
    @MarcesAurelius 4 роки тому +1

    thank you, great info - what does it mean when the used puck is bulging?
    (sometimes cracked)
    I have a Breville Oracle and reduced how much this used to occur by reducing the built-in doser/tamper to 22 grams (min amount possible)

    • @bluegill5192
      @bluegill5192 4 роки тому +2

      Don't worry if the puck is cracked, it doesn't really matter

  • @mohsen-karimi
    @mohsen-karimi 10 місяців тому +2

    Just fyi:
    The tamping video: ua-cam.com/video/9l0dnXHM1cU/v-deo.html
    The channeling video: ua-cam.com/video/aMLViitLPFY/v-deo.html

  • @zlutyzakaznik679
    @zlutyzakaznik679 4 роки тому +1

    Extremely entertaining and very very informative. I was left, well, puckless. 😀

  • @Presso99
    @Presso99 2 роки тому +6

    I read quite a few forums about soggy puck. Most of them recommended to either reduce the dose so that it allows space between the puck and the shower screen. The other suggestion is to CALIBRATE the depth by using the trimmer provided by Breville. I had proven all of these suggestions doesn't help in resolving the problem. Finally, I INCREASE the dose from standard 18g to 18.2g. Do you know what is the end result? The soggy is gone, and the taste is much sweeter. This method is proven and it works for me over months without any soggy puck.

    • @ZethAkadi
      @ZethAkadi Рік тому +1

      So, slightly increasing the dose made the sogginess go away? What espresso machine are you working with? I’m trying to solve this problem on a Bambino Plus.

    • @valkyr1690
      @valkyr1690 Рік тому +1

      @@ZethAkadi Same result here, Bambino Plus. The included razor trims too much off, end up with 16-17g and a soggy puck with bad tasting espresso. Stopped using the razor and even without a distributor my shots are way better on average and I'm measuring for just slightly over 18g.

    • @randiprait3116
      @randiprait3116 Рік тому +1

      I noticed a similar thing and also read that a slight underdose creates a gap between the coffee and water outlet which creates a pooling of water. Adding a tiny bit more coffee helps me to avoid this too.

  • @ufukfuatalpoglu3982
    @ufukfuatalpoglu3982 3 роки тому

    well done

  • @bikerseychelles
    @bikerseychelles 2 роки тому

    Great video, love espresso coffee.

  • @rayleeaustralia
    @rayleeaustralia 4 роки тому +4

    Is the used puck good for garden beds?

  • @T1k3mys0n
    @T1k3mys0n 4 роки тому +1

    2:18 I want that, distribution tool, and I like that tamper using palm, not fingers.

  • @lenso010
    @lenso010 Рік тому

    I tampered my puck by mistake. Does it cause problems in the cell ? Second question : I use IMS 18/22 basket and I grind 18g then using puck. It gets water on the surface after pulling the shot. Any recommendation ?

  • @Neonb1bLes
    @Neonb1bLes 3 роки тому

    Clever line at the end

  • @SuperMatrix59
    @SuperMatrix59 3 роки тому

    Excellent

  • @waynemartin4881
    @waynemartin4881 4 місяці тому

    Great video, I have a question, when would you remove the portafilter after extraction, today I left it on to froth the milk and then I tried to remove the PFilter it took some doing, I have a Gaggia classic evo. Thanks for any tips.

    • @clivecoffee
      @clivecoffee  4 місяці тому +1

      I'd remove it shortly after pulling a shot. If you leave it in for long periods of time, the espresso puck is much harder to get out and cakes the inside.

  • @FaithAndCoffeeBean
    @FaithAndCoffeeBean 2 місяці тому

    Great video ☕️👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽😎

  • @robwhitmore3040
    @robwhitmore3040 2 роки тому +5

    I worked for the largest coffee chain in Australia for a long time where we were always told to look for a "firm, dry biscuit" after a shot. Something I still thought was important until now.

    • @clivecoffee
      @clivecoffee  2 роки тому

      Glad we could help!

    • @Witchaven
      @Witchaven 7 місяців тому

      Absolutely agree here, if I see a soggy basket, I know immediately that either my grind, my dose or both are off slightly.

  • @BensCoffeeRants
    @BensCoffeeRants 3 роки тому

    I definitely prefer a ridgeless basket. Not sure if all brands are like that but my rocket brand basket and portafilter holders are really difficult to get in and out.
    Funny I'm pretty sure I've seen rockets marketting saying it is a full line indicator.

  • @AtlanPerry
    @AtlanPerry 4 роки тому +1

    Hello, great as you do this video clearly short and clear. Question, I just bought a Brezerra Magica and am under a lot of stress to make a delicious esspreso now. I have a 16 gram tray, can I add 18 grams or not? and my coffee is now weak and sour and with the current setting at 10 bar it takes about 25 seconds for 60 ml of coffee. Grinder is a Eureka Mignon Speialita and I now need 11.6 sec for 18 grams. the coffee is brand Medellin Secret Finca La Luisa Colombia. I would like to hear every tip I can get and I assure that I try to follow all UA-cam espresso films but in the end it turns out that it is easy to get lost. Greetings John.

    • @x3Tearless
      @x3Tearless 3 роки тому +2

      25s for 60ml of coffee seems to be a little too fast and hence your espresso sounds like it's being underextracted (ie. weak, sour). You might wanna try grinding finer and brewing to a 1:2 ratio which would be 18g in 36g out if going by weight in about 25-30s.