@@user-pq5on2lz6o he was still on the wizards with Beal and they made the playoffs also in 2017 they were in the semis. I wouldn't say that for wall but I agree with kemba
There's no arguement he was Definitely a top 10 player at his peak. At one point Wall was the best point guard in the east an 2nd best player in the east.
I said he was better than Chris Paul a couple of years and people thought I was crazy but look back he was better than I gave him credit for he can come back as a 6th man an kill shit
I personally think John Wall can be useful on contending and non-contending teams. Though I find it very difficult to believe that he might become an all-star caliber player again. But who really knows I could be wrong.
While it's true that Wall had a good rookie season that foreshadowed his eventual rise into an All-Star, he did not, in fact, win ROY in 2011. He actually placed second behind Blake Griffin. Wall did help make Gilbert Arenas expendable, so there was also that.
I've met the man I'm from NC as well. He was an asshole in his younger days lol. There's a video of him and my brother going at it at the pro-am in my city at NCCU in like 2010-2011. I used to not like him but I like how he grew and became more humble. I've always been a Houston fan as well. I still think we should have been traded him so he didn't have to sit but I wish the best for him.
Almost every contract handed out that crazy summer was bad. 2016 I think. Everyone was throwing money away. I couldn't understand it. Mozgov? 4 years 64 million!? For what?? He isn't going to help you win or take you to the next level. So why even bother? Sign someone young and hope for the best. And save that money until you actually have a target and a chance. Half of the contracts signed that summer were a total waste of money.
He doesn't need to be an all star anymore, if he minimizes turnovers and maximizes his speed in bursts, he could still be a viable starting PG. He should polish his game below the rim tho
@@maximusorbis2548 clearly you didn’t watch nun of the games he played last year but you entitled to your opinion bro still one of the best finishers at the rim
@@50BoyJu are you taking based on eye test? Or stats? Because by both metrics he's actually not, and has never been. Yes he's extremely fast, great handle, can get to the Rim easily, and it looks cool. But actually finishing at the rim? He's been inconsistent for a couple of years now, especially since coming off of his injuries he's not as explosive. Steph curry is a better finisher than John Wall.
If Derrick rose is useful John wall can be useful he came back after 2 1/2 years and still was able to put up similar numbers. The situation in Houston just doesn’t fit for him but he can still be a starter or a 6th man
I remember John Wall as this speed demon that is fast even with the ball in his hands. Now I can only see him as a role player on a contender. How tragic can an injury do to your career
For someone who started watching the nba in 2014 it was Steph , Westbrook , Kyrie , wall and IT the top PG's in the league at that time. You could add dame to the list as well. I used to play nba mobile in 2017 and we used to get these tokens during the playoffs where you basically predicted who would win each game and got some awards for that and i remember the series of Boston and wizards really well cuz i got everyone of those guesses perfectly right. That wall three pointer was actually insane. It's a shame he choked but IT was top 4 in MVP conversation at that time. It's crazy how he's not even I'm the league now.
I don’t blame him for sitting out if Houston won’t play him, that’s way too much money to pass up. I just hope by 2023 when it runs out he’s still got enough gas in the tank left to be a 6th man or just play good, meaningful basketball.
I read something earlier today saying that Wall is going to pick up his option, but if there's not trade to be done by a certain point (not sure exactly when), then he's going to work on a buyout agreement. Like you said, it's a LOT of money to pass up otherwise. There's a lot of skepticism, but I believe Washington would be a good spot for him, with some of the offensive weapons in place. Not title contenders, but a place for him to fit and seriously gauge him, compared to a team that wasn't trying to actually win last year.
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It’s about time I seen someone make this video with this specific narrative cause I been thinking the same shit. It’s crazy how Wall got injured numerous times how he did then before really getting to come back gets traded which he wanted and isn’t wanted to play due to the team wanting to tank pretty much and let the youth develop, so has been a man of the most unfortunate circumstances to be real on top of all that money given to him through that process is nuts cause wall is super comparable to Westbrook for just less hero ball turnover prone. But props to him for getting the bag for basically becoming a mentor to the Houston rockets next gen of players
@@HowardMoon56 it's not about that if someone loves basketball that should always be mindset and I do think that's his cause John wall can ball just Houston's trying development there young roster
I have this feeling John wall will make a comeback. I remember Chris Paul had the same narrative regarding his contract. Wall is a good defender I can see him being a great point guards on a contending team once he works his trade out.
I don’t see it. CP3 def had that narrative but he hasn’t been a player who’s relied on speed since 2011, he’s more about skill and IQ. John wall an explosive PG and idk how his game relying on athleticism will hold up after not playing for 2 years. Hope I’m wrong tho
"Worst contract in NBA history" is quite a reach. Some of those arguments are Skip-like. "As #1 pick you should lead your team to a title at some point" could apply for Kyrie Irvin who couldn´t lead a team to a chip before Lebron and K-Love arrived. Westbrook and Chris Paul had similar contracts and much more help and they could get it done so far. It´s not a knock on Kyrie, CP3 or Westbrook but sh*tting on Wall with weak arguments like that and call it the worst contract in NBA history is really Skip Bayless level
I was the Ultimate John wall fan and I can say for a period of time he definitely had the worst contract. Homie was not playing for 2+ years and got so much money and he wasn't the same afterwards.
I honestly don't know but my gut just says he's out of shape. He'll have moments he looks like the old Wall. Then you could tell how gassed he was mid game from doing crazy athletic stuff. Not gone say he's worth 40+ mil but he can definitely still bring it. I hope he makes his way to a contending team before he truly falls off
Wooooowww this narrative of his so called "downfall" blows me last time that man was on a nba court he was a walking 20+ppg 6assist player yet he's still considered a horrible contract cuz a damn team WANTS to tank. Smh free my guy John wall a top 10 pg STILL when on the court
Thank you bro someone has common sense and see the narrative being pushed like Wall wasn’t just balling on a tanking team that basically sat him out last year bro never had no hamstring problem it all was apart of their tanking to get Jalen Green
When you're earning 44 million a year just for semi all star numbers it's still a mid contract. Plus all his injuries he only played 40 games since having this contract
@@RealCGH ok that’s your opinion but last year doesn’t count he could have played all season If he was on any other team that was not tanking. Y’all boys get so worked up about a contract he earned some years ago and swear up and down he injury prone but dnt know that facts at all just listen to ESPN and think you know something do your research. The wizards was protecting their investment getting wall clean up knee surgeries that costed him time also kyrie fell on bro heel which was supposed to cost him minimal time it ain’t like it was John wall’s fault it wasn’t a self inflicted basketball related injury just stop these weird a** narratives and look stuff up also one of those seasons was shortened from the lockout so really see how much time he legitimately missed was only the past 2 years because his surgery got infection not from his own doing they had to clear out the infection with a second surgery and bro had a slip and fall at home which caused him to ruptured his Achilles which is his only self inflicted injury bro come on not to mention bro lost his mom to cancer and a whole load of stuff within that 2 year span so understand he human he can’t be perfect too guys miss a lot of time when you add everything up. in the right situation that contract is worth it bruh please with your ESPN takes its trash and go look up the reasons he didn’t play if you want to blame someone for him not playing much blame the wizards, Kyrie, hell even harden bum a** for leaving team setting them in rebuilding mode with a allstar caliber pg where he doesn’t fit their agenda clearly as you can see like y’all boys annoying anyone who knows basketball knows John wall is a baller that’s all that matters so worried about a contract clearly he was good enough to earn what does that have to do with basketball smh
@@mjsburneraccount5591 so you genuinely think jrue holiday dejounte Murray and Darius garland are better than John wall … the fact you said cp3 as if him and John aren’t similar and numbers very similar says a lot about your assessment on the top guards. Even coming off 2 years off his numbers were still good on a bad team to add. I think you guys tend to forget what a healthy John wall looks like when he is competing but I mean that’s my opinion you’re entitled to your own just food for thought
Yea you sucking mad P if you think Ben Simmons is better then John Wall bro haven't did much yet reason bro refuse to shoot in Philly bro straight bitch made if you want be real at least John Wall will shot Ben Simmons want play as if he good but bro cooked only thing going for him is defense which we have no clue how that impacted him since he haven't played so yea funny how people still Don't ride bro
If somebody earned their contract on an all star/ all nba level and was the best player on their team then I don’t consider that a bad contract. Nobody would call this a bad contract had he never got hurt. Nobody would say “he’s stealing money had he never gotten “ why do y’all like spinning these kinda of narratives man
I would love for you casuals to make mini docs on his come back season last year. Averaging 20 and 7 assists coming off two years. Yall are a joke and follow clowns like Stephan A and Skip Bayless. But watch all yall praise and make positive videos of Klay coming back. But it was crickets for John Wall. 🤔🤔🤔 And how is a perfectly healthy player not playing. How can you legally sit out a player? Its crazy. They love to create fake narratives. JOHN WALL HAD A BETTER FIRST HALF OF SEASON THAN RUSS LAST YEAR. AND HE BEAT RUSS AND THE WIZ THERE FIRST GAME IN H TOWN. 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾 FREE JOHN WALL. COME BACK TO DC SLIM. 💯💯💯
John Wall really the definition of finessing the bag lmaoo
that dougie secured him for life lmao
Too bad it cost him a chance of going to the Hall😔
hopefully he saved his money and invested it cause lets be real lol no team will ever give him a contract like that again.
Not really.. he almost lost his foot. I don’t think it was any finesse in this situation.
@@RealCGH basketball hall of fame ain’t hard to get into
John Wall, Kemba Walker, Isiah Thomas, Victor Oladipo. All of these guys were so fun to watch.
@kb nets Yeah man.
All good players getting their stats inflated on mediocre teams
@@MrE_ wall didnt contribute to a winning team
@@MrE_ who u referring to
@@user-pq5on2lz6o he was still on the wizards with Beal and they made the playoffs also in 2017 they were in the semis. I wouldn't say that for wall but I agree with kemba
You could argue he was a top 10 player at his peak ngl
There's no arguement he was Definitely a top 10 player at his peak. At one point Wall was the best point guard in the east an 2nd best player in the east.
@@woketv781 facts
Wall was a top defensive guard and was electric on offense.
@James Black shut yo hating ass up
I said he was better than Chris Paul a couple of years and people thought I was crazy but look back he was better than I gave him credit for he can come back as a 6th man an kill shit
I personally think John Wall can be useful on contending and non-contending teams. Though I find it very difficult to believe that he might become an all-star caliber player again. But who really knows I could be wrong.
John Wall was HIM, nobody couldn’t hold him
While it's true that Wall had a good rookie season that foreshadowed his eventual rise into an All-Star, he did not, in fact, win ROY in 2011. He actually placed second behind Blake Griffin.
Wall did help make Gilbert Arenas expendable, so there was also that.
There are almost no in depth videos on UA-cam about Ralph Sampson. Yet you hear about him quite often. Maybe a worthy subject.
I've met the man I'm from NC as well. He was an asshole in his younger days lol. There's a video of him and my brother going at it at the pro-am in my city at NCCU in like 2010-2011. I used to not like him but I like how he grew and became more humble. I've always been a Houston fan as well. I still think we should have been traded him so he didn't have to sit but I wish the best for him.
Almost every contract handed out that crazy summer was bad. 2016 I think. Everyone was throwing money away. I couldn't understand it. Mozgov? 4 years 64 million!? For what?? He isn't going to help you win or take you to the next level. So why even bother? Sign someone young and hope for the best. And save that money until you actually have a target and a chance. Half of the contracts signed that summer were a total waste of money.
He doesn't need to be an all star anymore, if he minimizes turnovers and maximizes his speed in bursts, he could still be a viable starting PG. He should polish his game below the rim tho
He’s literally one of the best finishers to touch a basketball I dnt see how much more he can polish that particular aspect of his game bro
@@50BoyJu Was one of the best, he’s now useless
@@maximusorbis2548 clearly you didn’t watch nun of the games he played last year but you entitled to your opinion bro still one of the best finishers at the rim
@@50BoyJu stats or didn’t happen
@@50BoyJu are you taking based on eye test? Or stats? Because by both metrics he's actually not, and has never been. Yes he's extremely fast, great handle, can get to the Rim easily, and it looks cool. But actually finishing at the rim? He's been inconsistent for a couple of years now, especially since coming off of his injuries he's not as explosive.
Steph curry is a better finisher than John Wall.
Do realize he’s the 3rd most payed player in nba rn
He wasn't Rookie of the year!!! B. Griffen was!!!
Wall can be a very good backup guard for a lot of teams. Outside of his jump shot, he still has a lot left to offer.
A back up. He’s a starter guy! Did you not see last season? Stop it. And check the stats he can shoot. He aint Russ. 😂😂
@@Artislife1992 wall can't shoot
If Derrick rose is useful John wall can be useful he came back after 2 1/2 years and still was able to put up similar numbers. The situation in Houston just doesn’t fit for him but he can still be a starter or a 6th man
Easily still can contribute
Absolute click bait. Why even say "he's not even getting minutes on the Rockets"? We all know the reason why, and it's nothing to do with his skill.
FACTS !!
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John Wall was a top 3 PG and top 10 player in the NBA in his peak. He deserved his super max.
People try to front like he wasn't the man, especially in the playoffs!
WAS
@@HowardMoon56 that’s what earned him the contract. Nobody can see into the future
I remember John Wall as this speed demon that is fast even with the ball in his hands. Now I can only see him as a role player on a contender. How tragic can an injury do to your career
Free John Wall
Free Wall? Free the rockets from that trash ass contract lol
@@MrE_ facts bro literally earning 44 million to sit on the bench. And is getting 50 million next season. 💀💀💀
@@MrE_ it was their choice to take that on. It's not hurting their cap situation one bit either, because no one is signing there. Rockets are fine
Read something about him accepting the option, but if there's no trade, he's going to work on a buyout agreement
For someone who started watching the nba in 2014 it was Steph , Westbrook , Kyrie , wall and IT the top PG's in the league at that time. You could add dame to the list as well. I used to play nba mobile in 2017 and we used to get these tokens during the playoffs where you basically predicted who would win each game and got some awards for that and i remember the series of Boston and wizards really well cuz i got everyone of those guesses perfectly right. That wall three pointer was actually insane. It's a shame he choked but IT was top 4 in MVP conversation at that time. It's crazy how he's not even I'm the league now.
4:58 no one gon talk abt yung mustards flow there 🔥
I don’t blame him for sitting out if Houston won’t play him, that’s way too much money to pass up. I just hope by 2023 when it runs out he’s still got enough gas in the tank left to be a 6th man or just play good, meaningful basketball.
I read something earlier today saying that Wall is going to pick up his option, but if there's not trade to be done by a certain point (not sure exactly when), then he's going to work on a buyout agreement. Like you said, it's a LOT of money to pass up otherwise.
There's a lot of skepticism, but I believe Washington would be a good spot for him, with some of the offensive weapons in place. Not title contenders, but a place for him to fit and seriously gauge him, compared to a team that wasn't trying to actually win last year.
Yo at least those Washington teams were always reaching the 2nd Round
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I have a gut feeling that when his contracts up he’ll settle for a veterans minimum and contend with the Heat
This aged well
John Wall First Team All Finesse
It’s about time I seen someone make this video with this specific narrative cause I been thinking the same shit. It’s crazy how Wall got injured numerous times how he did then before really getting to come back gets traded which he wanted and isn’t wanted to play due to the team wanting to tank pretty much and let the youth develop, so has been a man of the most unfortunate circumstances to be real on top of all that money given to him through that process is nuts cause wall is super comparable to Westbrook for just less hero ball turnover prone. But props to him for getting the bag for basically becoming a mentor to the Houston rockets next gen of players
This made me so sad he has so much potential
I don't think he is sad. Imagine being paid 44 mill. per year and your job is to do nothing.
@@HowardMoon56 it's not about that if someone loves basketball that should always be mindset and I do think that's his cause John wall can ball just Houston's trying development there young roster
Which is a idiotic thing to do to be honest cause they still got pay him sitting out or not sure that wasn't his choose
Lowkey forgot about him. Maybe he’ll go back to Washington declining his option after
He ain't declining the option lol
Why would you decline 47million?! 😂
The rockets might as well waive him at this point and get the situation over with. Wall wants all his money and I don't blame him lol
Westbricks contract is worse. At least Wall isn't costing his team losing, toxic attitude and delusion. Wall is just out of the way
don't give quick explosive guards massive contracts
Really can't hate the guy tho. Being paid a bag just to stay home during games and come to the facility.
I have this feeling John wall will make a comeback. I remember Chris Paul had the same narrative regarding his contract. Wall is a good defender I can see him being a great point guards on a contending team once he works his trade out.
John wall for Ben Simmons 👀
I could have sworn wall avr 20 last season he's not bad though the rockets are just playing the young guys
I don’t see it. CP3 def had that narrative but he hasn’t been a player who’s relied on speed since 2011, he’s more about skill and IQ. John wall an explosive PG and idk how his game relying on athleticism will hold up after not playing for 2 years. Hope I’m wrong tho
Chris Paul didn't tear his achilles and never relied on his athleticism to be good
I don't see it. CP3 is a wayyyy better player than Wall
"Worst contract in NBA history" is quite a reach. Some of those arguments are Skip-like.
"As #1 pick you should lead your team to a title at some point" could apply for Kyrie Irvin who couldn´t lead a team to a chip before Lebron and K-Love arrived.
Westbrook and Chris Paul had similar contracts and much more help and they could get it done so far. It´s not a knock on Kyrie, CP3 or Westbrook but sh*tting on Wall with weak arguments like that and call it the worst contract in NBA history is really Skip Bayless level
I was the Ultimate John wall fan and I can say for a period of time he definitely had the worst contract. Homie was not playing for 2+ years and got so much money and he wasn't the same afterwards.
I honestly don't know but my gut just says he's out of shape. He'll have moments he looks like the old Wall. Then you could tell how gassed he was mid game from doing crazy athletic stuff. Not gone say he's worth 40+ mil but he can definitely still bring it. I hope he makes his way to a contending team before he truly falls off
Not out of shape at all if you check his IG he’s in the gym consistently
@@ysndarius1464 being in shape and game shape 2 different things. But I hear you.
Terrible decision for the Rockets ever even trade for him
bro is the ultimate bag chaser
Worst deal for who? Wall?
I think you should ask John himself.
Now its one of the best tho. Can't wait to see him on a contender
His Dougie was madd !!! 🥲🔥
You must have never heard of Rudy gobert in your life
john wall disrespect crazy
Wooooowww this narrative of his so called "downfall" blows me last time that man was on a nba court he was a walking 20+ppg 6assist player yet he's still considered a horrible contract cuz a damn team WANTS to tank. Smh free my guy John wall a top 10 pg STILL when on the court
Thank you bro someone has common sense and see the narrative being pushed like Wall wasn’t just balling on a tanking team that basically sat him out last year bro never had no hamstring problem it all was apart of their tanking to get Jalen Green
When you're earning 44 million a year just for semi all star numbers it's still a mid contract. Plus all his injuries he only played 40 games since having this contract
@@RealCGH bingo
@@RealCGH ok that’s your opinion but last year doesn’t count he could have played all season If he was on any other team that was not tanking. Y’all boys get so worked up about a contract he earned some years ago and swear up and down he injury prone but dnt know that facts at all just listen to ESPN and think you know something do your research. The wizards was protecting their investment getting wall clean up knee surgeries that costed him time also kyrie fell on bro heel which was supposed to cost him minimal time it ain’t like it was John wall’s fault it wasn’t a self inflicted basketball related injury just stop these weird a** narratives and look stuff up also one of those seasons was shortened from the lockout so really see how much time he legitimately missed was only the past 2 years because his surgery got infection not from his own doing they had to clear out the infection with a second surgery and bro had a slip and fall at home which caused him to ruptured his Achilles which is his only self inflicted injury bro come on not to mention bro lost his mom to cancer and a whole load of stuff within that 2 year span so understand he human he can’t be perfect too guys miss a lot of time when you add everything up. in the right situation that contract is worth it bruh please with your ESPN takes its trash and go look up the reasons he didn’t play if you want to blame someone for him not playing much blame the wizards, Kyrie, hell even harden bum a** for leaving team setting them in rebuilding mode with a allstar caliber pg where he doesn’t fit their agenda clearly as you can see like y’all boys annoying anyone who knows basketball knows John wall is a baller that’s all that matters so worried about a contract clearly he was good enough to earn what does that have to do with basketball smh
@@mjsburneraccount5591 so you genuinely think jrue holiday dejounte Murray and Darius garland are better than John wall … the fact you said cp3 as if him and John aren’t similar and numbers very similar says a lot about your assessment on the top guards. Even coming off 2 years off his numbers were still good on a bad team to add. I think you guys tend to forget what a healthy John wall looks like when he is competing but I mean that’s my opinion you’re entitled to your own just food for thought
strong finishers looked cool but shits shortlived. people dont get injured until they get a max contract. lol
He still has the ability to be an impact player on the floor
As a sixth man
@@FranciscoPizarro1475 not really tbh
@@FranciscoPizarro1475 could have been 6th man this past year. Pride got in the way. 💁🏻♂️🏀
More like John Washed am I right.
I like these informational videos but you sound so bored. Monotone dialogue ruins the video a bit.
Because the Wizards' management suck at their job.
Wasn't Blake the 2010-11 Rookie of the year?
yeah. Wall was the best of his rookie class, but Blake Griffin won the award for ROY
He still raw lol yall trippin watch this
What about Westbricks contract?
Lmao
Haters no mention of Westbrook the disrespect
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John Wall for Ben Simmons 😭
Ben Simmons is way better than John Wall. This isn’t 2015
Yea you sucking mad P if you think Ben Simmons is better then John Wall bro haven't did much yet reason bro refuse to shoot in Philly bro straight bitch made if you want be real at least John Wall will shot Ben Simmons want play as if he good but bro cooked only thing going for him is defense which we have no clue how that impacted him since he haven't played so yea funny how people still Don't ride bro
Come to the clips
If somebody earned their contract on an all star/ all nba level and was the best player on their team then I don’t consider that a bad contract. Nobody would call this a bad contract had he never got hurt. Nobody would say “he’s stealing money had he never gotten “ why do y’all like spinning these kinda of narratives man
First to see this banger
Not the worst contract
He did NOT win ROY
W
Wall didn’t win ROY
Unlike Ben Simmons! John Wall is a true professional with a huge contract lol at the same time he earned that $$$/ Ben Simmons doesn't deserve his
LaMelo Ball rn > Peak John Wall
No
Stop
facts over feelings.
Hell no
@@vintagemonte What facts ? Lol
I would love for you casuals to make mini docs on his come back season last year. Averaging 20 and 7 assists coming off two years. Yall are a joke and follow clowns like Stephan A and Skip Bayless. But watch all yall praise and make positive videos of Klay coming back. But it was crickets for John Wall. 🤔🤔🤔
And how is a perfectly healthy player not playing. How can you legally sit out a player? Its crazy. They love to create fake narratives. JOHN WALL HAD A BETTER FIRST HALF OF SEASON THAN RUSS LAST YEAR. AND HE BEAT RUSS AND THE WIZ THERE FIRST GAME IN H TOWN. 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
FREE JOHN WALL. COME BACK TO DC SLIM. 💯💯💯