“This Has Opened A NIGHTMARE Pandora’s Box” Mick Lynch Vows To ‘Seize Control’ Of UK Economy
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- Опубліковано 24 вер 2024
- RMT union chief Mick Lynch has vowed to ‘seize control’ of the British economy, demanding unions in every workplace. Mr Lynch is calling for 1970s-style union influence now that the Labour Party are in power.
Talk’s Kevin O’Sullivan and Isabel Oakeshott discuss the story.
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It is laughable that ordinary people can be jailed for posting on social media rather than just being banned from social media yet union bosses can openly rabble rouse, unchallenged.
I am Canadian, now 72, and remember that period well, a total, awful, humiliating disaster.
We had 3 day working week and power cuts. We had to buy a news paper to check when if we could have a evening meal or watch TV. How would todays generations cope with that?
very easily. many already skipping meals and not putting the power on.
They’d have meltdown if they couldn’t charge their phones.
I remember having to go to bed to keep warm and reading under the covers by torchlight
😂😂😂 because of course your boss will always want your life to better no matter what it costs 😂😂😂
Latest 60k a month spent on sim cards for illegal immigrants disgusting.
insignificant compared to the Brexit disaster, £140 Billion flushed down the toilet on Brexit so far.
@@gavinsmith9564 Give it a rest
How much does this Talk TV presenter get for sitting on his bum all day talking about his opinions? A train driver is more useful than his job
@@DavidJones-ww9yb a train driver couldn't be a presenter but the presenter could train to drive a train
The pensioners have lived through the 70's union madness, maybe that's why this labour government is so hostile to them we know the result people need to look at the history.
and they were able to join the EU and make things better, now we have nothing to turn th country around.
They never joined....they were lied to and put in unknowingly.........
@@brianbishop2235 many pensioners voted Brexit and Tory , they won we all lost,
Please don't let them repeat the 1970s, they were literally a nightmare!
This is what the youngsters simply don't understand...............
I liv3d through that time it was a total nightmare I would not wish that on anyone to have to go through that again and should not have to in this modern times
I grew up in the 1970s as a teenager... the last thing the UK needs is the economy being in the hands of unions ... living through the late 1970s was a nightmare that took around 10 to 15 years to start to recover.
Those of us that have private pension funds and are retired will never make it to the age of State Pension if this happens.. the markets will crash dive...and affect every private pension fund.
I too live and grew up in the 70s, god help us, well sed by the way
yep - they stole pensions last time they were in power and now they are doing it again!!
70s, rats running amok in London. Rubbish piled up for months
I never voted for this Labour government, so my hands are clean on this one. I don't mind unions to a degree but these days they're for the middle classes, you never see a union asking for hospital cleaners getting more money. That being said Farage is the only leader who's awake to what Britain needs to be doing. Get manufacturing back up and running. Scrap net zero and get drilling/fracking for gas, build mini nuclear reactors en masse and cheap energy means a booming or growing economy. We need to be protectionists with steel and start building stuff other countries want. Aim for the Chinese and Indian middle classes. Make are own cars, huge investments in technology and education, revolutionise house building and start manufacturing and putting up capsule homes en masse. Cheap to manufacture, cheap to put up and come in many designs. Britain also has a problem with building materials being way too expensive. They need to be driven down ASAP. Forget the unions wanting control, we need to flip the economy to one of manufacturing and accept net zero is a major tension on Britains economy. It's amazing how very little the media has called out Ed miliband on the billions sent overseas for net zero, when that money should be put into public services in Britain. Labour is a disgrace and shame on all who voted for them.
The Tories did say a vote for Reform UK is a vote for Labour........
But would any right minded person vote tory
Mick Lynch just said the quiet part out loud. The only thing is it’s what the rest of us knew already.
10 billion out of nowhere! 22 billion known but not acknowledged, and now a surprise! Does she know whats in her own bank account? Staggering incompetence!
OAPS have the Lowest State Pension In EU......And Need That Extra Help This Winter.🥶
sadly two thirds of OAPs voted for the Brexit disaster, £140 Billion flushed down the toilet so far.
@@gavinsmith9564 How much did we borrow for COVID then?
IT'S A PITTANCE. THE PRICE OF EVERYTHING, HAS GONE THROUGH THE ROOF, AND NO INCREASE IN PENSION.
IT'S A GENOCIDE, OF THE OLD.
@@gavinsmith9564 lies
MP's with all their subsidised this and that need to ask themselves if they could live on less than £900 a month state pension! ... I have a small work pension which has gone from £120 a month down to £65 after tax .. so why did I bother!
Wow this country is going backwards
thought that myself just last night, in days gone by there was somthing to watch on the box, something to listen to on the radio, or we went to the cinema, or had a meal out, or went to a concert ... now nothing so I went to bed early.
Gone to the dogs.
Mr Starmer Are You Happy Giving BILLION'S Abroad And Letting Down Our OAP'S Who Could Die This Winter.And Who Have Built This Country..
Horrible malicious man this Starmer - arrogant control freak
Brexit has cost £140 Billion so far...
It’s his Final Solution for the Elderly
On Starmers own admission 4,000 will die no "could" about it!!
What do you mean built this country? The current crop of pensioners have been voting to dismantle the country for decades
I understand why unions were formed and to a large degree agree with the basic principals of the trade union movement BUT what we see these day is very well paid people going on strike, people with great perks and pensions already holding other working families often less well off to ransom. The Unions have gone way beyond their original remit and now represent a mechanism to rip off the taxpayer, the commuter, the people not in unions .....
AFAIK The Chinese Triads started out as an organisation to help the less fortunate...they eventually became extortionists. Sound familiar?
Absolutely agree. It should be there to protect workers rights, not to go on strike everytime they want a payrise or have a bank holiday off with a bloody big pension. New laws will eventually curtail them and new type of contracts for those willing to work without being in a union.
1970's here we come , shame the music of the time won't be back
Shaft 🎶
and in the 1970s we were able to join the EU and turn the country around, now it's just decline and austerity ahead.
@@bumberClart1000 i'd call that iconic
@@gavinsmith9564 we joined A common market not a dictatorial EU state. get your facts right
who do you think you are kidding mr. starmer ,all sing along .
We need to think back to August 3, 1981 when Ronald Regan sacked 12,000 air traffic controllers. You need a lot more intelligence to be an air traffic controller than a train driver, so it shouldn't be that hard to replace all of them.
My neighbour works for the railway and when the topic came up frequently said "we are already over paid"....
How much intelligence is needed to do your job then?
@@DavidJones-ww9yb Let me put it this way. On my coffee table are the following books that I'm currently reading: "Abstract Algebra", "Galois Theory", "Differential Geometry" and "General Relativity". I could also add "Der Letzte Wunsch", and "Le Seigneur des Anneaux", but the German and French is much lighter reading.
@@DavidGetlingSo you have absolutely no practical skills whatsoever then. It's all very well telling us what books you've read but could you put a clutch in your car or replaster your living room wall? No , didn't think so.
@@DavidJones-ww9yb @DavidJones-ww9yb You are so right. All of the following required no practical skills whatsoever:
1. Flooring and insulating my loft.
2. Wallpapering most of my house.
3. Adding lots of electrical sockets.
4. Moving radiators.
5. Tiling the floor and walls of my kitchen, and completely refitting it, including plumbing in the sink.
6. Completely re-landscaping the garden, including taking down lots of trees and removing their roots.
Knew Mick Lynch was a wrong-un !!
They always are.
A socialist millionaire.
Indeed.
Don’t need a leader of the opposition , leave Labour alone , doing a sterling job by themselves
Who voted for this lot.?????
Brexit voters, that's why Starmer is a hard Brexiteer now, hugging Union flags etc.
@@gavinsmith9564 Brexit voters would never vote for Labour.
Immigrants
How do people as thick as a castle wall get 60 grand for driving a train ?
Maybe you are the thick one if you havent applied to do it since it is such an easy job
Do you actually know any train drivers?
@@nicksloan8860 they only employ people related to current staff
Nevertheless, driving trains carries responsibility. Like ramping up and down the train between stations and in taking a watch for unauthorised persons on tracks including the deer.
@@nicksloan8860 it a job for the boys family I have never seen a train driver job come up at job centre.I could learn that job in a week . I was a miner and it makes me mad to see these people get 60 grand for what Thay do and Thay don't work Sunday ffs
We don't have a strong leader like Margaret Thatcher to stand up to unions. I didn't vote Labour and certainly not for a union leader.
She loved Britain.
Just where is the money for all these rises is going to come from?. At least in the 1970s we still had a strong manufacturing based economy which carried us through. We won’t last very long with the economy we have today, that much is certain.
The wealth goes only to the unions. And not all of it to the members.
Unions are Mafia.
Got to get this labour government outwe don't want to go back to the 1970s this government is getting worst every day why did people vote for this obnoxious government
Mick Lenin Lynch.The Lone Stranger on a Donkey.
Trouble at Mill, Mabel.
Who in their right mind wants to invest in the UK now when they know they'll be at the mercy of the "good old union boys" ... 🙄😔
Kommie Stamer was editor of the British Marxist magazine in his 20s
I remember my dad taking our bins to the town hall in the 70s & dumping the rubbish on the steps Becuse the bin men were on strike & he couldnt stand the smell any longer
I commuted to London from 1973 to 2003 and through a number of long running train strikes. We could not work from home then and as an employee of the finance industry we were ordered to come into the office on every strike day to show the train drivers they could not win. My only alternative was buses until a coach service was provided by the banks and I was offered a seat on one of these. Strike days meant a very early start, the stress of trying to get on a bus/ buses eventually getting into the office late morning, the stress of trying to get as much done before setting off well into the evening, getting home too late and too tired to cook a meal, trying to grab a few hours sleep before setting out the next day. My salary was nowhere near what the train drivers were already earning. They went on strike because they could. We couldn’t strike. Their greed is insatiable and we will see more train strikes during this Labour Government.
No electricity, no internet
I bet the people who voted labour didn't realise they voted for Mick Lynch, Sue grey and Lord Ali
I didn't vote labour but I could see that coming months ago.
we will all be leaving on boats soon
Will we get all the benefits the ones coming here do
sadly we lost our Freedom of movement to the Brexiteers, we are all stuck on Brexit island now, going down with the ship.
@@gavinsmith9564 Really
@@John-t2v I think we should all quit work and make all these foreigners work to pay for our benefits.
@@gavinsmith9564 Freedom of movement is why our country is so screwed.. Brexit should have allowed us to get immigration into the tens of thousands, but for some reason our political classes are obsessed with inviting the planet to come and live here.
Hopefully there's a party that will be offering mass deportations at the next election
Buy candles
Is a coincidence that Starmer also threatened to 'take control'?
I remember the 3 day week in the 70's, no electric for weeks, thanks TED Heath you arse. Starmer is of the same bent corrupt seedy ILK...
As a HOD teacher I was substantially lower than the train drivers salary...how much they get paid needs a serious look.
I was a bricklayers hod like you years ago and I didn't get much money then
It will be looked at, the pay deal only runs until the end of this year and negotiations have now started for next year
Bully stood in the playground, and all the kids crying.
A return to the 70s !
I was only a small child, but I remember the power cuts and the bin strikes.
Greedy!
I remember it well as a child, and a young teen. The green goddesses, and everybody on the news was angry and shouting constantly. Families fell out forever! It was hell.
Straight forward, you tell the railway people. "If you hold th e country too ransome, we will make you all redundant and everything will be sent by road. You cannot allow some organisation to usurp the democratic systems government. What is Starmer going to do about it, he quick enough to react to people rioting. Well this is even more serious
mad mick is the new red rob of the 70s
Easy dealt with. Don't use the trains
If there were any significant control exerted on the UK economy by the unions, private sector investment would disappear and the economy would crash and burn. We've seen it before in the 70s
Looks like we are going to get all the crappy parts of the 1970's but without any of the good stuff. Out of control unions, strikes, winter of discontent, power cuts, 3 day week, it's all coming back with a vengeance.
History repeats,because human nature doesn't change
@@Worldturnedupsidedown Our so called leaders always seem to make the mistake of not taking human nature into account. It is the reason they appear incapable of predicting, what to most of us, is the logical conclusion of their seemingly insane policy decisions.
The Mafia take control
We're going back to 1968 Czechoslovakia. I kid you not.
Investors and big businesses will look at this and move most production to plants outside of the UK and investors will follow suit.
This is already happening as the investors leave with their money and other small investors linked to their group. Pension investors will of started this to protect their members. The unions will destroy private industries' jobs. Job losses are on their way.
Top 3 per year, you can check how your taxes are spent at HMRC online:
6 April 2019 to 5 April 2020: Welfare (22.1%), Health (20.5%), State Pensions (12.4%)
6 April 2020 to 5 April 2021: Health (21.9%), Welfare (19.6%), Business and Industry (14.4%)
6 April 2021 to 5 April 2022: Health (22.8%), Welfare (20.4%), State Pensions (11%)
6 April 2022 to 5 April 2023: Health (19.8%), Welfare (19.6%), National Debt Interest (12%)
They will borrow to pay for the pay rises. As national debt interest rises they will need to cut spending as we are an over taxed nation already
A big difference with State Pensions is that many will have had to work for decades to qualify for the full amount, the other items are provided without having to pay a penny in.
@@ant270 agreed and the state pension is a poor investment. people say for every 1 GBP paid you get 1.20 back. You can get better returns elsewhere over the 35 year period. But we are forced to pay NI contributions for full state pension of 11k per year or half min wage.
@@m0o0n0i0r Not heard that (maybe true) but, to get the SP you'd need about 250k in a private pension...most lower paid would pay nowhere near that in NI so, looks a good deal in that respect.
@@ant270 and you have to wait until youre 68 to get SP if you are millenial as I am (41 yeas old). Private pension pays more if you start early enough.
Yep, and the electricity supply companies are pulling Miliband’s strings. Winter of discontent 2 the sequel…? 😂
Those of us who didn't fall for labour duplicity knew what a disaster happened on July the fourth.
The Pandora's box was opened for us, basically by complacency.
Too many were paralysed into not voting by tory inadequacy during 14 years in government.
Labour is almost gleeful in telling us that we are going to suffer.
Could have, sort of, told us that before the election.
Then we wouldn't be in this mess.
Well, hopefully it will wake up more people.
Shades of the 1970's. Is this deal about the same the Tories offered?. Rail fares will rise but not for the Union guys who travel for free. So this £22 billion 'Black hole' doesn't count if a Union wants a pay rise for it's members then?
Lynch's ego is getting too big for comfort.
Multimillionaire socialist Mick lol
It is actually 'Pandora's jar'. Like an amphora. It's a mistranslation. On you go.
I know in the very late sixties on car company I know caused a strike because of over production and the union fell for it .
Keep your fingers crossed for the further development of driverless trains.
Like a good Communist elitist he is making lots of cash . Does Lynch see that politics is even more lucrative ??
Just keep paying the ransom, and then pay the next ransom, and the next and the next. Don't expect doctors surgeries, hospitals, trains or schools to get any better.
Want a laugh ? Paula Venells CEO of NHS trust 🤷🤷
Remember British Leyland had more strikes than working days, in one year.
I was serving over sees 71 to 76 so missed all that fun.
Perhaps they will go on strike in support of the pensioners......
Lorry drivers 20% when did that happen
No unions - that was supply and demand. Free capitalism.
I hate the unions, they do more bad than good in my opinion, and are out for themselves all the time. I voted for Margret Thatcher precisely for that reason.
She LOVED this country.
The unions also know that this country no longer has a military large enough to cover for the strikes as it did during the winter of discontent in the seventies. It was frustrating for the squaddies having to cover for people who were on a lot more money than they were, who were demanding even more. While the military pay rises were wiped out by the military raising food and accommodation costs. As a young airman, my pay rise in the seventies was less than ten pounds a month.
i lived through the times you mention . I joined a large company in 1970 and part of it was you had to join the union or you couldnt get the job . i did 35 years but the senior shop steward ran the show .
The train drivers needed a raise in case they have to start opening and closing the train doors too!
He won't be siezing control of our business, I will move it to the USA.
only certain sectors will get these big rises.
I think we can do without passenger trains until Xmas
Use cash. Not cards when shopping
Yes right, he could not control his bowels.
well - he has been after this for a long long time. I KNEW this would happen if two tier became PM. And now it is happening.
Back To The Future.....1970s.
I hope those who were too young to endure the union ridden country we were in the seventies, pay attention NOW. Thatcher did turn the Nation around and although feathers and fists flew, yes, but it was essential. I now see great danger for us with the starmer/union politics that has arisen.
The argument was too simplistic unions are there to protect it's members for without them business would just steamroller over people. Lets get this right many many workers have not had a pay rise in many years but prices still go up. Eventually something has to give workers just want a fair slice of the cake. I did not hear once that Mick Lynch actually said this and I would be very surprised if he did. Also the rises in the railway system was not just for train drivers it was for ancillary workers cleaners maintenance etc most of whom are on poor wages. Twisting facts to satisfy the narrative is not a good way forward. Stop beating up the unions they have had their hands tied for years and only operate within the law and are there for their members.
So you don't want government control. Fair enough. But you don't want worker control either? What do you want, corporate control?
Yep they will hurt Starmer
Who is going to control Mick Lynch ?
The 70's gave workers the levelling up they needed, taught the fat cats they have to share a little more equally. never in the 70's did we freeze and starve pensioners
yes I know you are all going to harp on about power cuts, no one is saying cut off the power!
Last year I had a theory: Starmer was "the acceptable face of Labour" that would give us a Labour government in the 2024 election (hard to imagine now, but anyway...) I would give him six months as PM before the far-left Momentum types took over and established what would amount to a totalitarian state. Could it happen?
The Unions did wonderful things for the workers back in the day, both concerning pay and importantly conditions. But it has always been a balancing act between the unions and the business owners. But it is not the unions role to control the economy, that is madness.
They bankrupted the UK, what do you mean?!
Farage will walk to Downing Street on the backs of the unions
What the people want is not to be governed they the people want to have the maximum freedom to live, to live and be free. Why? because it is a very good idea. Yes it is.
Cash in UK not card
Define criminal please? Never mind, it is clear. One is just better at it than another. I trust people know what the confidence game is? I includes MPs, and they get your blessing.
The ultimate Socialist or is that Communist????????????
He’s a multimillionaire, could be either.
Mick Lynch looks like deadpool once he was in that glass box. LOL.
By February train drivers will have the elderly's blood on their hands.
Because you were tricked into believing one has anything to do with the other?
Its quite easy. If the train unions want to take over we close the railways completely. Even dig them up. We do not need to commute for the vast majority of people as it has been clearly shown that we can quite easily work from home. So lets dig up the tracks and replace them with tarmac for roads and lets stop paying the train drivers £60-70,000 for doing next to nothing.
soon as labour get into power, sure as hell you know what is coming , even more brazen this time. English people too unique and humorous, we will never be obedient proles.
Think i will move to Russia
the people have to push back the queen would be turning
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ha ha, tricky micky doing his Stand up Comedy...
No the biggest union fan but, i'd rather have them than any of our government options. Our governments have failed us over and over, everyone in the Conservatives, everyone in Labour, everyone in Reform, are all the same.
We need a faaarrrrrr farrrr right party
all the moaners who get £60-70k a year should be sacked and give the jobs to foreign workers who want to come here and work !
No thanks. I don’t want foreign culture here.
Diversity is ruinous as we all know.
Has No idea Starmer has not got the balls to run the country properly ? Seems nervous when speaking, makes mistakes, not prepared for interviews, seems to be pointed into policy by other influencers like religion, other countries, unions etc. seems to not taken seriously British 🇬🇧 people, culture, history etc. Doesn’t seem to be worried about the illegal foreigners who come here and the cost, dangers, crimes they commit, deportation etc, when the world realises the problem. Is this Prime Minister really fit for purpose and what is this country going to be like in another 2 months ?