Michael Blackson on Akon Saying Africans Don't Think About Slavery Like Black Americans (Reaction)
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Thanks for your response. Slavery and slave trade is taught in most schools curriculum in Africa to-date. Any one saying we don't know anything about it , I think they are being deliberately blind to the truth. Be it trans Sahara or Arab slave trade is there in the school curriculum.
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I think as South African we might have bit of similarities wit u guys.
But I feel like Africans view the US in sightly different way cos They go there & more become successful or turn live a better life that where they come from.
So wen u give complain or raise concerns about racism or ur economical struggles & etc. They don't get it cos to them is like u guys r privileged.
You mentioned kidnapping.Read up on the Portuguese. Read up on the black Portugese. That took place during the Spanish INQUISITION. We are NOT African. We are Israelites. Read exodus 8: 20-23. WE ARE NOT THE SAME PEOPLE. Read Deuteronomy 28:15-68..
No it's not like that
We do know history
Me I was born and raised in Tanzania but my parents are from Democratic republic of Congo
I studied about slavery in school even if I didn't know much about it but nowadays everybody knows about that, we do love you guys ❤
I'm African from Cameroon 🇨🇲 and I'm not brain washed bro.. I'm very much aware of the manipulation going on to separate black Americans and Africans
We're glad you're not letting it stop your own beliefs and unity, fam!
Am glad you mentioned that. Because lots of people don't understand the agenda pushed against us.
Those non-black people know us but many of us don't know ourselves. We are gods man !
One love from Congo 🇨🇬
The separation is biblical. African Americans are NOT African. They are ISRAELITES. Read Exodus 8:20-23. We are not the same people.
It good you know but you are still caught up in the same system so it like you Alone can’t make a change because the problem is from top hierarchy
There is a spiritual meaning behind this. Many blacks in America will be cut off everlasting with oppressor because of pride and extreme lack of moral. Esau is the most profane of all ethnicities America is getting ready to be judged. Read Jeremiah chpt 51.
I believe it's both related, black Americans talk more on slavery because that's what they actually remembered and Africans talk more on colonialism, cos that's where it hurtd them the most.
That's very very true...!
Exactly!!!!!!!!
Exactly!
i'm a Ghanaian, and i can tell you both Akon & Michael didn't get their education here, so I don't know firsthand. We were thought colonisation with included salary in our schools. We still have the castles here which is a constant remembered.
I am 61 , my great grandmother was a slave and i sat with her and ate grapes. Her voice is still in my head still. She died when I was 4 . No slavery wasn't long ago.
Here's the difference. Your greatgrandmother. In West Africa, slavery was legal until 1902 in French West Africa and until 1928 in British West Africa so people were enslaved much longer in West Africa than black Americans. What Akon is saying is that West Africans who were enslaved and their descendants today don't dwell on it much, even the descendants of returnees who returned to Africa from America, Canada, Cuba and Brazil between 1792-1880 don't talk about slavery much in Africa today
Hmm see the problem is slavery legally ended in 1863 but continued illegaly until 1865. However, Jim Crow laws and sharecropping became a new form of slavery (debt) to the people who they were just enslaved by. These people were still living on plantions until the 1970's (and even recent in a certain state). People talk about what affects them most (we still have laws/policies that represents that era).
Akon is right.... 100% especially in Nigeria, we've moved on... Though history cannot be forgotten
Nigeria isn't even the original name of that land
Yet, you have not moved on from colonialism. I love Nigeria, but Nigerians should never say they "moved on" considering their role in the Trans-Atlantic slave trade. I've been to Badagry, I know the story.
@@BluEx22329Your surname is not even your own name, you still the masters property
We are aware of the trans atlantic slavery. We may not have that deep connection now but it had huge impact on us. The peoples, communities, kingdoms etc that were affected by slavery lost relatives. Slavery depopulated certain communities and caused the decline of kingdoms and empires.
You do know even Nigeria, Ghana and Equatorial Guinea had white-owned plantations? Did you forget what King Leopold did in Congo from the late 1800s to the early 1900s chopping off hands for rubber so the U.K. could have bikes? The cognitive dissonance in Africa is crazy. Colonialism has had a tremendous affect to the point that more people in the diaspora seem to value African spirituality like Ife in Cuba, PR, Brazil more than actual Nigerians who call it juju.
In most schools in Nigeria the subject History stopped being taught and in the few schools that taught it, students had to pick between History and Government. I’m Nigerian and schooled in Nigeria. I did Government and I can tell you for a fact that slavery is NOT taught in Government. We were only taught pre colonial, colonial and post colonial Nigeria.
See first the trans saharian slave trade of thousands of years before the europeans take the isl4m1c business....-,-,.-,-,.-,.
That is unfortunate because Nigeria or what was to become Nigeria has a very rich and deep history.
@@Daron7181 it is only students who decide to read history or history related courses learn about slavery and priority is given to history of different tribes before European contact
I am going to keep it a thousand! The first time I was exposed to anything related to the Trans-Atlantic Slave trade was when I watched Amistad. That movie shocked me so much as a kid, and left me wondering whether this really happened or if it’s just a movie.
As I got older, I started to read about slavery, and learned a lot. Listening to Nas also taught me a lot about the mind of someone whose ancestors were slaves, that’s the educational aspect of HipHop that no one talks about.
Yes, that's real music! Thank you for mentioning that!
Man I watched that movie in Zimbabwe out of high school with my Liberian girlfriend and a Sierra Leonean friend who speaks the local language in the movie. First and maybe only time I cried and was distraught watching a movie.
Don't worry, it was lie.
See first the trans saharian slave trade of thousands of years before the europeans take the isl4m1c business...
As an African, I have a deep understanding of the history of slavery and its impact on our continent. Having grown up in Cameroon, especially in the coastal city of Limbe, I have witnessed firsthand the physical remnants of slavery and colonization that are scattered all over the place. In Cameroon, we were taught about slavery and colonization in school at a very young age. We learned about Cameroon's history, African, and world history. Our curriculum included the scramble for Cameroon, which depicts how European countries were rushing to colonize Cameroon and many other African countries. It is often thought that Africans accepted Europeans enslaving other Africans, but this is far from true. Reading through African history, you will see that most African tribes resisted colonization. Most tribes fought against the Europeans and were defeated because the Europeans had advanced weapons. The resistance of Africans to colonization is a testament to our ancestors' resilience and fighting spirit.
Regarding the disconnect between African and African American communities, 90 percent of the disconnect is a result of media programming. The negative portrayal of Africa in the media has led to a distorted view of the continent, contributing to the disconnect between the two communities. However, the rate of marriages happening between Africans and African Americans shows that it's only a matter of time before the two communities become more connected. The growing number of marriages between the two communities is a sign of mutual respect and understanding, which can only lead to stronger bonds in the future.
I studied my primary and middle school in Congo, which is a French-speaking country colonized by Belgium. For high school and college, I went to South Africa, which is an English-speaking country colonized by England before apartheid with Afrikaners. In my experience, both countries teach about slavery, and everyone is aware of what happened. However, in Congo, we don’t talk about it a lot because nobody in this generation has experienced slavery or colonization. Moreover, this history is not impacting our lives directly. In contrast, apartheid ended in South Africa in 1994, which is much more recent. People who experienced apartheid are now teachers, doctors, and so on. When you look at society, townships (hoods), and extreme inequality, you will see that apartheid is still impacting lives. I think all Africans are aware of slavery and colonization, but we see it differently, and we were impacted differently.
💯 Thanks for sharing this.
We see it differently because we were not thought about it deeply and a lot of Africans were not thought about it at all. Even colonialism was thought to us like it was a good thing, that white people came to save us which is why a lot of Africans love white people, they see them as saviors and saints
🤲🤲🤲. I totally agree. We were impacted differently.
Well put. Well explained ❤🇿🇦
Thank you for telling the truth.
There's no difference between us,
we're one people. Whenever i see Africa Americans, Africa Brazilians, Cubans, Jamaicans and black people outside Africa, i see you as brothers , Sisters, nephews, uncles and so on. Make your ancestors proud. Come and see where the evil men took them falsely from. Visit Ghana 🇬🇭 where it started. Visit Mother Africa 🌍. It's good for your souls.
I was raised in Kenya. My father was an Educator and he introduced us to all types of information and Slavery was one of the topics that when talked about, he would be so sad. The only problem was we were colonized by the British. The British made sure that they did not teach us about slavery. We were colonized I had to come to America to learn more about Black History and took classes relevant to black history. Excellent content. We kind of lacked the knowledge of slavery.
Slavery is not to be taken lightly nor will never be forgotten. I am well aware of History and educate myself from the right sources. Slavery still exist like it or not. I love my African American and you all are my brothers and sisters ❤ my blood.
💯 Always check the source!
As a person born in Africa I agree with this video. I remember taking my African American friend back to West africa with me and he said he now understood why we didn't call ourselves black, because everyone was black. But most Africans understand the term black now but 40 years ago we did not.
How you feel about Apartheid is how we feel about slavery! That is a very good statement and vary true
Omg! I’m glued to your channel because you guys say things the way they are. I’m a Nigerian living in US, I can tell you for free that colonialism is to us just as slavery is to African Americans. Most of us didn’t learn a lot about slavery until we get here. Then imagine how many other Africans who hasn’t let Africa and as such know little to nothing about slavery. Please, keep doing what you are doing, one day, we will get it right. Mind you, the whole rift between us (Africans and African Americans) are premeditated. It’s a mere agenda of those who enslaved our ancestors and colonized Africans. We must break away from the circle of fighting each other. We are one and must remain one. Kudos guys
Thanks for being apart of the family!
Ethnic tension is a very real thing and having the same skin tones is not going to change that but having an open mind and hearing people out and respecting the differences is the only way but that’s not always realistic
Yes in Kenya i learned colonialism in Kenya and Africa and slavery they even took us 150 students grade 7 to verscodagama pillar 16 hrs 5 day trip to see slavery routes in malindi and Mombasa Kenya and we saw pictures on the wall of the cages in west Africa gold coast so slavery was taught in school in 1990’s whe i was in elementary school
I am a Nigerian, I was taught history in Primary School, I did history as a subject in secondary school and even got a degree in history from a reputable university. ❤
Congratulations! Which field of work are you in (position)?
Teaching history is different from telling the truth. What kind of history you were taught matters alot. That Mungo Park discovered River Niger, when people actually are living in those areas.
Bro, the history that is taught is the colonisers version of history.
See first the trans saharian slave trade of thousands of years before the europeans take the isl4m1c business...-,.-,.-,.-.,-,.-,.-,.-,.
I rarely comment but let me say this as a Historian and an Economist. Slaves in Africa especially in the Akan tribes of Ghana were not treated brutally like those that were shipped off to the Americas and Caribbeans.
They were called servants most of the times even though they were slaves captured during war or bought. Some of them were allowed to marry into these families. The horrors of slavery in America was too much.
My Godfather who is a Historian before me said he actually does not think many Africans would sell their people into slavery if they knew how they were going to be treated by the whiteman.
In the schooling system I went through in Eswatini, part of our history curriculum was about slavery and the Civil Rights movement. That left us with an understanding of the pain and injustice and why to never make light of African American history.
It’s great you all were taught about the Civil Rights movement. I wish we were taught more about Africa in school.
I am from Africa Angola 🇦🇴, and we feel slavery everyday and in Africa it didn't end there, families were broken, children stolen it was and still is traumatizing my grandmother told me stories of white farmers that would beat and shoot workers, were not allowed to speak our languages and having an African name meant that you were uncivilized although they didn't call it slavery but it was... they divided to conquer and their lies are still effective that is sad 😢
This is so identical to what happened on the plantations. Enslaved Angolans were sent to our home state.
Actually, so-called African-Americans are Bantu, with a large portion having ancestry in present-day Angola.
@@ufundi1nope majority are west African most Angolan slaves shipped to Latin America even the Amistad which was a Spanish ship was on its way to Cuba 🇨🇺 and this first slaves that came to the British colony of Virginia was on its way to Veracruz Mexico and that ship contained Angolan slaves but the amistad didn’t
@@TheDemouchetsREACTthat’s true but the majority were from Senegal and bight of Benin you can see that in the culture and food ways but very little Angolan culture influences as opposed to Cuba , Brazil and Colombia I think the most Angolan thing is a prison named after Angola and the word gumbo which is Kikongo
Angola, like DRC, had been thought as West Africa historically. You know that DRC is on the Atlantic Ocean as well as Central Africa. But, for at least a 20 year period, the vast majority of Africans forcibly brought to South Carolina were from Kongo Kingdom, 4 countries consisting of Gabon, DRC, Republic of Congo & Angola. Great book to read: Kongo Across the Water (2012, by Susan Cooksey et al).
I have a unique history being half Zimbabwean and half African American. I want to make one small point. Colonialism, in my opinion, was similar to life under Jim Crow. And one thing that's important to realize, and it should be unifying, is that we were all living that 2nd class citizen life at the same time! Even in 1950, if you were in Johannesburg, Salisbury, or Mobile, Alabama, your life as a black person was heavily regulated. The slight difference was that blacks were brought to America and Jim was a continuation of a longstanding depreciation of the African. Apartheid and colonialism were more sudden, a result of conquest that led to a hegemony where the colonizer was on top and the indigenous people were the subjects. The culture was not obliterated in Africa to the same degree that it was almost totally erased from slaves, but hey, in the end, we are all descendants of the same land, and we ought to be united in love for one another and a love for a better world overall
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When are you coming home to Ghana, and l hope you are alive. Where ever you are l let my peace reach you.
I will be uniting Africa no sooner than later. Let keep in touch, l will let you know when all the resources am gathering are set. am with you dear.
We love you guys i mean for me i grew up where hip hop was a thing and for me to see another black person be a big influencer in the world meant a lot to us because we see people who look like us in another area its inpiring, thank you alot
Much love & you're welcome!
Yes, it hurts when my friends here in the Netherlands talk about their background and their DNA from 1500 and 1600 and that they can find every family member, while I don't get further than 1800, the island of my parents, and that the people in America from New Bedford do not go further than this island because the African country where their parents come from is not known.
This topic is educational ❤️❤️🥰love from Ghana 🇬🇭
We were taught ALL black history in my country. We also learned about Certain Asian history and European history. We're taught a rigorous History curriculum. Not only were we taught our own history, we were taught all African History and Black American history. It depends what country you came from and school you went to that determines what you're taught. My school taught the unfiltered History. For final exams we had to be able to name every African Country, its president, its capital, its main cities, its main imports and exports or resources, its spoken languages and its currency. Black American history was also taught without the sugar coating or or cop out statements like " well African sold their own ppl too by accepting bribes..."noones hands are really clean"...🙄
MosesMatsepane, I am a senior citizen in the U.S. and when I saw ‘ROOTS’ and was working in a diverse environment at the time; is when I truly became aware of the situation. Our parents kept us in our neighbors back in the day, and schools were just becoming integrated. But as soon as we moved in they moved out. Today we are everywhere, so they can’t run; unless they are filthy rich, and then we have folks that are rich too💵 Since 45, things have gotten worse. They don’t care that we know they are still prejudice, and have been holding us back. They give a little, and we have to give it back; (bills); but the laws are made for them‼️
The law favours them. It was made by them. Even this thing of the currency 1 USD = 20 Rand is just nonsense.
Why must 1 dollar be 20 times worth more that our 1 Rand in South Africa.
They say they use gold reserves to determine the strength. Where did they get all this gold that is being stored in Fort Knox.
Most of that gold is from Johannesburg.
I appreciate this channel and The Demouchets for bringing up this conversation. As a Kenyan I also appreciate the Kenyan Education system and Curricular that has taught us every aspect of history from Lower Primary School to Tertiary Level( world history, our continent's history to grass root level of our history) including African History. Slavery and the slave trade into the Arabs and the West.
On ground we do have Celebrated Mau Mau war veterans some alive most of the dead, who fought the British to our Independence as a Nation and are constantly sharing their experience on how barbaric the colonial era was. We do have historic sites like the Fort Jesus at the Kenyan Coast where slaves were detained and shipped to slavery into the Arabs and the west.
I mean we are very much informed about African Colonization and Slavery history, much educated about the African American Slave history and the Impact it has had to date. That's why we appreciate and Love you our AA brothers and sisters and always excited, happy to see you seek knowledge about this Lovely and rich continent and we are always looking forward for you our AA family to visit home and just experience how much you are appreciated on the Mother Land.
Funny that no one else gets told to get over it. Their moto is "Never Forget"
My 2nd great-grandfather was born on the McLeod plantation in 1845 in Charleston SC. During the war a lot of the slaves there ran off to go fight in the war. After the war some did get their five acres, but less than year later it was all taken back and returned to the McLeod family. Fast forward the family didn't want anything to do with the land and donated it to the city of Charleston and a large portion to a development. The plantation was around 1700 acres and the historic site is only 37 acres so the family profited off the remaining 1600+ acres.
Exactly and the crazy thing is he is married to a Geechee(Descendant of) from Hartsville... Akon is insane
This is truly heartbreaking for y'all.
It’s been taught in schools please let’s not misinform people
I was also shocked to hear this imagine 🤣 🤣
I am an African who grew up in Ghana and has been living in the United States for some time now. I think in Africa, the emphasis is more on colonialism in schools. Education on slavery is very minimal. I got to know more about slavery when I came here to the United States.
I grew up in Africa as well, am in USA now, I didn’t know anything about slavery growing till I came to the state
We as Africans, are very much aware of colonisation which is slavery in our own land, which in the case of African/Black Americans is slavery in a foreign land.
Ghana the 1st Country to come out of colonisation is just 66 years old so Europeans should not act as if slavery was so long ago, our grandmother's who went through colonisation when they were children, are still with us so we know the stories of how Africa was evaded by Europeans
Who said slave trade has ended, my bro, do not forget about mental slavery which is alive and well.
This is the first time I'd be commenting on a UA-cam video, will probably be about the first subscription on a UA-cam channel too; and this is because of how compelling this topic is and the work you guys are doing.
Slavery is a very sensitive topic that ravaged a lot, but not all African countries. Nigeria for instance was affected in it's entirety by slavery; Atlantic and Saharan, in the South and North respectively. My maternal great grandfather was an escaped slave who returned from the Saharan route. He was captured young on the way to the farm, not sold. He only got married decades after on his return, middle aged. So the thought that Africans hate Black Americans is unfair to countries that had no part to play in it all together.
Affected African countries are well aware of slavery, but in my opinion, it is the attitude to slavery that differs. Slavery, alongside other aspects of Colonialism has more or less shackled black Africa. And it's still effective in some ways in driving a wedge between Africans and Black Americans. A very potent flashpoint is Africans selling their people, as though they sold family members. To the best of my knowledge this wasn't the case; most were captured, those that were sold were prisoners of war (between African tribes, kingdoms and empires) an unfortunate practice that had been done on other continents, e.g. vikings pillaging and trading Western Europeans as slaves.
Understandably Black Americans are more conscious of slavery and it's effects as they live with the descendants of those who did it & still experience vestiges of its effects. I think healing is the way to go, I've observed that the black race has difficulty with conciliation, reconciliation and forgiveness. The US for instance has Britain as (arguably) it's closest ally today, despite fighting a bitter revolutionary war, they sorted out their differences enough to permit collaboration. The vikings, Nazis, Fascists, French and British have all devastated, pillaged and enslaved themselves at some point in their history but today succeed at getting along. NATO is proof, we can too, but only if we try. You guys have positioned yourselves to being a part of it. We need to see ourselves as a people, though fractured, we can heal. I used to hear my mum say, while watching TV, when she sees Black Americans; these are Nigerians, i asked why, her response was that about 1 in every 5 Subsaharan African is Nigerian, plus slaves were taken in disproportionately higher numbers from West Africa. We do not hate or despise the struggles of Black Americans, we're a welcoming people, a well planned and curated visit will convince you.
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Slavery is a sensitive topic and the more we talk about it publicly, the more we see the reasons people don't understand our perspectives growing up in the U.S. - especially in the South. You are absolutely right about us having an issue on communicating and getting along. More conversations and actions are needed for us to wedge the gap. Thank you for adding to this important conversation.
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I knew about slavery in Nigerian, i was taught about it in school
apart from school, we learn about it from our elders. In badagry, there's a museum where depicts the slavery. You can see the chains used to hold our ancestors down and everything. I think we just dont talk about it because it was like a black decade for us and also we moved on.
Well done. This is a much needed conversation. My family has been in the Boston area for several generations, but we are descended from people enslaved in Virginia and South Carolina who left during the Great Migration.
I always love when people who had family migrate during the Great Migration find us. Although our family chose to stay in the South, our stories will always be connected. Welcome to the family!
People do learn about slavery in schools... majority of African schools do have slavery in their syllabus
We're glad to know this now!
But it's not always taught in a way that encourages compassion and empathy for the enslaved and their descendants. Ditto the way slavery is taught in the West. We're informed of the fact of slavery, but not how the enslaved were forced to live once they reached the Americas. Real history (not the Disney version) has to be lived to be understood.
We learn about slave in grade 8 in Africa , people in our country they don't want history they want to be taught skill to help the economy grow
@@TheDemouchetsREACTWe were taught about slavery in primary school in Nigeria, but we are not connected because we didn’t experience the practical effects of slavery. Same reason PRACTICALS are essential in medical or engineering courses is so students have firsthand experiences.
@@kelugu3776 at least your people get acknowledged despite being a lesser importer of Africans unlike Latin America especially Brazil Haiti and Cuba
Africans selling Africans accounted for a fraction of the overall slave trade. Many more slaves were kidnapped directly by slave militias in raids on remote villages. Also as abhorrent as it was to sell fellow Africans, the concept of Race was not a thing in Africa. People had (and still have) far greater allegiance to Tribal Kingdoms than to race. slaves in the African context were more like indentured servants like the Irish and the English, they had limited rights and could marry and their children were not considered as slaves. The African slave "traders" had no concept of Chattel Slavery as practiced in the America's.
This is inaccurate
As an African from Kenya myself, alot of the education was formulated by the British, my tribe the Kikuyu fought the British and we had a famous movement called the Mau Mau among many other tribes. Even though as an older man they tried to hide it, we are very aware of slavery, most of the slaves were shipped out from Fort Jesus in Mombasa, Kenya. I don't agree with what Akon says, Africans in general are very aware of the history. My two cents
Thank you for adding to the conversation! I learned of this movement recently in my studies.
You are Bantu
@@roberth5708what is bantu.
As a fellow Kenyan, I disagree. We are not taught the reality of slavery. We are only told about the ports where they left from ... NOT what happened to the people when they arrived in the Americas. The slavery taught is so white-washed and sugar-coated. It's about the ports as magnificent historical buildings. It's NOT about trapping people, breaking families, tying them with ropes, and putting them in dungeons. It is NOT about r@p3 of men and women. It is NOT about plantations.
i agree with you, this was taught to us from a very young age in history. its good to know though that no Kikuyu was sold or enslaved. Kikuyus waged resistance and no one was taken
In Nigeria, particularly in Geography, there are two topics that mention slavery, though briefly. 1. Reason for under population of the middle belt.
2. Effect of under population.
Till today the middle belt of Nigeria is not as populated because of this historical fact.
My Grandparents always talks about how slavers where taking people away. In my community they call slavers " aganigan" which mean someone who is wild and wicked.
This is really interesting. I've never heard anyone discuss this.
Can you find us a video on this topic?
Yup, my grandparents also talked about how they'd take refuge in the mountains, with wild cats & whatnot, once spotters spotted the slavers. The overwhelming majority of people were captured in raids, you wouldn't want to imagine the anguish over captured persons cos family is huge with us, so much so that your cousin is your brother/sister. My uncle used to say Yorubas were unaware of the concept of "cousin," the colonisers introduced it to us.
Most of the people sold from the middle belt were sold in the trans Sahara slave trade and not trans Atlantic. The southern part were the ones sold to the Atlantic
In Ivory Coast where I'm from, most history books were written by former colonizers. And it is still the case mostly. So any history lessons we had were given through the perspective of those people. And sadly many of our people uncritically embrace that perspective, even some African historians.
we africans are much aware of slavery , I think why black Americans talk about it much than us is because they live among the slave master till to date, so its much harder for them not to have it in their lips
TRUE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! As an African-American, I agree with you 100000000000%.
I’m going to take back what I said. After listening more I get what you are saying. We need to be involved in this conversations to understand and love each other. Thank you hopefully this makes a difference to someone like me and maybe others
In Nigeria, the history of slavery is not taught in schools although it is kind of mentioned briefly because colonialism was taught in civics until much recently when some policy makers are advocating for it's removal from elementary and secondary school curriculum.
Much of what I know about slavery I saw in the movie Roots which I watched when I was in high school and through a research I did many years later. I became much aware of the impact of slavery when I came to the US
It is the same in South Africa. We supposed to forget apartheid (ended 30 years ago) and people saying this are the ones living the benefits of apartheid.
As a west African I can assure you that our great grandparents/parent knew about slavery, the subject is complicated and situation is going on till date. Black Americans talk about it because the trauma is still being lived, Africa is in the state it is because we haven't changed our attitudes.
We in Tanzania we say slavery is "donda ndugu" it means a painful wound we learned to bear it's pain
Other thing that bothers me about "Africans hate us" is that everyone is involved, some people don't even know that there's a country in Africa that was never colonized, a lot of countries where never involved in the slave trade especially in Southern Africa...
Lots of kingdoms in West Africa were never involved in that tragic event. Some kingdoms were backed by invaders and were given firearms to enslave others.
There is hatred in your heart that your own people betrayed you.
Who taught you that Africans hate black Americans, let me know, from Ghana.
I'm sure I'm welcome, but I am already home in America. My family has been in America for 8 generations. I am home.
Until someone else comes along & tells you that they "own" your home and that you should ship yourself to where your ancestors came from.
That's great to hear, as long as you are happy that's what matters.
I went to high school late 80s in Zimbabwe and on the cover of our history books one of the pictures there was a slave ship with people packed and that subject left me feeling hurt. That history was taught in our schools along with our own history in the south of Africa. It’s sad but it’s necessary to converse about history. Some people will dangerously hold onto one fact and forget about over a hundred more facts about the same history. Research and hope you’ll know as much as possible and start mending bridges. High time black people flourished all over the world.
On the other hand, Zimbabwe is a country whose people very well may not have been involved in the trade, being landlocked and south/central. To a Zimbabwean, whose culture is mostly intact after a brief colonial impact, slavery in the Americas could be a subject taught in school, but not something that touched the lives of their particular ancestors
@@Xaxameti the point is that children were made aware of that history just as we were made aware of the Chinese revolution, the Russian revolution, the British history etc. it’s a necessity to also learn about black history in all forms. I married an African American and now it’s important to me too.
💯 My free time for the past year has been research upon research. It's hurtful to learn, but it pushes us even more to bridge the gap. Hope you are doing well, fam! Happy Holidays!
You right. I’m Zimbabwean born in Rhodesia during apartheid days. We were taught about the history of slavery and black Americans with our black teachers. Black Americans also supported us during our liberation struggle. We were connected a lot and Jamaica 🇯🇲 as well. Because of apartheid system in Zimbabwe 🇿🇼 were connected to black Americans.
Gotchu. Yes, it was taught, but if you were someone who went to an 'A' school and not to Marondera High then it's hard to say that it was taught on a widespread basis, but I'll ask ...
In South Africa we were never taught slavery, we were only taught about colonisation, voortrekkers( Afrikaaner forward movers) apartheid etc. in fact when growing up I was surprised when seeing black people speaking English on TV then later became aware only in my teenage years that the black people in America don't speak our our language because they were enslaved. till today the curriculum does not include trans-Atlantic slavery or it could be that South Africa was not impacted by trans-Atlantic slavery.
South Africa has a similar history, so it would be understandable if the curriculum focuses on what happened there.
@@TheDemouchetsREACTand slave didn’t come from South Africa to the Americas
Beautiful discussion. Watching from Nairobi 🇰🇪
The other misconception is that people in Africa think, that If you live in America you’re better off. Now Africans have a lot going on in Africa with development, poverty etc. So the plight of the AA isn’t really comprehensible , the African doesn’t get racism until they leave the shores of Africa.
We hear this a lot, but we understand the reasons they don't understand our perspectives.
It is never green outside the African landscape.
To be frank, l will be the only African to remain in Africa should everyone leave.
I was born here and l am going to die hear.
In that way, l will be able to reincarnate again.
If you die outside Africa the forces and spirit of Africa has lost you soul, and you can not reincarnate.
Great great great video and I love how she broke it down between us black Americans and Africans
People forget that "they sold us" happened within a context of tribal wars and land conflicts between native peoples that the colonisers took advantage of. They use same thing against the Maroons here who would return some slaves as part of the treaty.
This happened in Mexico and another place I can't quite remember also. Whew! We have so much to share next year.
Thank you guys for this you have to understand your history
As a South 🇿🇦 African our school system focuses on South African and African colonialism and international Politics. We do know about slavery abd world wars, i find that the Southern rigion (SADC)is quite different to the rest of the continent.
SADC people are no different from the Africans in the rest of the continent. We have the SAME experiences. It is Southerners who ... for whatever reason ... want to segregate themselves. It will surprise you that as a Kenyan, our education system was EXACTLY THE SAME as you have described the South African one. Focus on Kenya, colonialism, and brush over slavery as a by the way. But the reality of slavery was never taught. It will surprise you that we bantus at the equator can understand some of your Bantu dialects. So how are we different people? Travel to other countries in Africa and you will appreciate how similar our experiences are.
I was raised in Nigeria. I was only taught the slavery that happened in Egypt, when Moses rescued the Israelites
Lol... Please which school did you attend😅
I am from Ethiopia and living in USA. I want to high school here for two years. I saw movie called kunta kinte and taught USA history in high school and heatd about Black Americans and Native history. From the beginning to end I still feel the pain that what they went through and still today going through, Its painful. The slavery has to end but tactically still existing in other forms. Our African forefathers came before us while they didn't wanted to come forcing them by power and guns. Recently, in college I wrote that Native Americans shouldn't be on street. This generation must change by put God First and get education. Stay away from any addiction even music. African Americans were leading by the Holy Spirit moving from East to West if I am mistaken in Americans history. African Americans must wake up and get married stay away from getting pregnant very early age. You two are a good example. Educate a younger generations. May God bless you all!
So sad but the truth is most Africans dont even know about slavery.I am from Uganda but I dont know much.I connected and decided to read about slavery when I met same people like me from the Carribean.Strangely their character and mannerisms were closely related to those of West Africans.This should be taught in schools.
Its America and south Africans who thinks almost alike when it comes to racism and slavery
I love this conversation very educative
In most West African countries in-depth slavery is not taught and the little that’s taught lacks emotional interpretations. If continental Africans are taught slavery only as a subject to pass, they will grow up completely detached from its occurrence, the suffering that occurred, the wealth the Europeans gained from free labor, the devastation of Africa’s development, and many more. Most of the schools in West Africa still use books written by European colonizers. Even the few written by Africans are diluted because the Africans got scholarships to study in European universities and real and truthful history of slavery that paints Europeans as villains would never be allowed. No wonder the average West African doesn’t see slavery the same way as the average African American.
I am 41 born in 1982 and I am Mexican-American and raised in Inglewood, California. My story is-- slave mentality was still alive when I was a boy. My neighbors 2 houses down werent from Los Angeles-- they came form somewhere in the South!
...and there is something they did that I never forgot, that was traumatizing to me as a non black american--
...the mama (grandmother) would tie up the kids on the different trees in the backyard, she should use bed sheets to wrap each child to a tree-- so they would not bother her on her time and it was normal for them.
7:42 good points by Dion
I mostly grew up in the north in the city. It wasn't until recently that I was in the car looking out the window and wondering what all the litter was everywhere, only to find out it was not litter it was a cotton field. A COTTON FIELD! I was speechless. I had never seen one before. I was all caught up in my feelings and I was speechless. There is no way someone can tell you to "get over it." How does someone drive passed fields of cotton and not think about their ancestors being forced to work those fields and think about the hundreds, thousands that tried to escape and those that died. Yet here we are driving passed those same fields and are told, "You need to get over it." I will always get caught up in my feels. This is why I felt blessed to take my trip to the continent with my children last year. You need to go home at least once. We were once more than just slaves in a cotton field. Make sure your children know this. 😔
Many people who come down South feel this way when they see the fields for the first time. Imagine living near those fields and plantations. I thought of them often as a child. 😔
Our ancestors were so strong and intelligent to survive those times. They were worthy to be everything we are today.
I’m South African and I would say we get taught a lot of African history not just South African history to the point of if someone doesn’t know much about African history it’s frowned on especially if that person finished high school there should not be someone who doesn’t know even know about the basics of colonisation who and how it was ran by, the scramble of Africa which bought a lot of these Europeans to colonise etc
My country is the same.
Akon and Michael are celebrities, but not experts in this field. Most Africans with elementary degrees have been taught the history of slavery and slave trade. It still continues in secondary and high schools. Americans still discuss slavery because its consequences still affect their daily lives of African-Americans in all aspects of their lives, while in Africa its just like any other history.
We have to remember Chattel Slavery in America and Colonization are two different things. African colonization started around the time of the Berlin Conference in 1884 and by 1957 African countries started becoming independent again. "Moving on" is easier when you live in a place where you are the majority AND your family life, communities, customs and history are intact. African Americans had their families, community, cultural identity, language and everything obliterated through the trans-atlantic slave trade which lasted 300 years THEN afterwards suffered through Jim Crow apharteid and descrimination for an ADDITIONAL 100 YEARS. All in all, it benefits everyone to learn and have empathy for each other and not try to criticize from a high horse. We've all suffered enough.
300 years are you sure? How many years from 1619 to 1865 I’m not a math wiz but I’m sure it’s less than 300 years
@@yusefnegao You're correct technically (246 years) but if you watched the video the lady explained people were enslaved well into the 1900's, literally and indirectly through sharecropping and the prison system.
@@millionairemaine8901 still less than 300 years and you think it automatically stopped in the other countries who have a history of not following laws of the government even more so than the USA
@@yusefnegao Nope, I don't.
@@millionairemaine8901 I feel u
I didn't study history that much in school but I don't remember ever being taught about it but I put that to the fact that SA was really not affected by it.But I learned about in third or fourth grade from friends and some family members even though it really didn't make sense at the time but I never forgot that.The idea that people could be kidnapped and sold and then taken away across the oceans was just too horrific to imagen,we lived on the coast and I thought the world welded where the ocean met the sky where we saw ships travelling in either direction.
So how could people go to another place on the other side of that,it did not make much sense until I grew up and learned geography and understood colonialism and apartheid.We have all come a very long way but we need to unite and put or resources together to develop Africa because until then these people wil never respect us.
im just hitting 50 and im from mississippi. i seen families all over mississippi still stuck in slavery living on a plantation. and this was in the late 70s on up until now. not to mention the mental phycological conditioning decent from slavery, passed down to us.
One thing people I feel affects their understanding of African groups warring each other is, they use a modern day lens to look at the society back then. They act as if we were a monolith back then (folks are still doing it today).
We are fully aware of it👍
Background info-I'm from Eritrea (East Africa) and grew up in the US. I had to educate my classmates since they only knew what they saw on TV. The history of the Continent is NEVER taught it seems to be around colonization when discussed. There were such amazing kingdoms and now too... such diversity but you have to be the one to do the research for the books and the right scholars. Loved that you said we need to have conversations not debates.
Another point that needs to be discussed is not about liking or not, but about being ethnocentric. Pride for where we are from is strong. Ask any person that told their African parents/relatives about someone they potentially want to marry and SEEEEEE all the questions that are asked. It is a wonderful plus when the other person is from the same country... you would think but NO... where are their family from exactly??? Same tribe, religion, good family line, then good job and so forth.
Cheers!
My parents were born during apartheid in South Africa. I was born during apartheid in the 80s. I remember being sprayed with teargas whilst playing in the street and the military tank was driving through. That was a crazy time to be around. When Nelson Mandela became president in 1994 he besieged all of us to forgive and try to move on as one. We cannot change history. I wonder where we would be if we allowed the hate and anger to drive us.
It is not a competition of who had it worse. When Americans say their slavery was worse because of this and that, it feels like you're lessening our experience. How Tyla was being ridiculed for being Coloured when it is an accepted race, ethnicity and culture in South Africa and you want to tell her how she should identify. That's what bothers me with the Black Americans wanting to explain our experience to us. Our struggles are unique to all of us. Nobody's struggle is better than the other. This is not a competition.
As an african(who doesnt live in the US) I must say that what Akon said was right. I learned the slave trade in school how slaves were taken by force how rhey died on the ships, but unfortunately we didn' t learn anything on how the slaves were treated once they got out of the boats in America.We know about the work without pay, the flogging , but how slaves could not have a last name, how if they had a family your wife or your kids could be snatched from you and sold where you will never see him again,all this leading to black americans loosing trace of their ancestry,the utter destruction of a human being on the level it went on in slavery in America, we don't know much about it, sad to say. I am in my mid-40s and I learned all this only last year in documentaries and audiobooks. It was an eye-opener. Africans need to learn this
Oh interesting I had just seen this original video last week.
The transatlantic slave trade, was a huge catastrophe. What some people don’t realize when they say Africans sold their own people, they did not think of other groups as “ their own people.“They were many different tribes, kingdoms, and empires, who competed with, and fought each other much of the time. This whole modern notion of everybody is black, white, Native American ,or Asian etc. didn’t exist in the past. This whole Racial categorization system is very recent. 400-500 years at best. For example, in Europe, you have Greeks, Swedes, Italians, Spaniards and Portuguese who are all European. They would all be in agreement in that they are Europeans, but would disagree that they are all the same people just because they shared the same continent. In the past, it was even more complex because modern countries didn’t even exist yet. Europe also had a multitude of chiefdoms, kingdoms, and empires same as Africa, the Americas, and Asia.
We actually have a connection to slavery. Sierra Leone, a country in west Africa was created initially by the colonial masters to keep slaves(i.e. slave storehouse). A lot of our ancestors from Nigeria, Ghana and other West African countries were kept there. That is why in some parts or tribes in Sierra Leone have similar names to some tribes in Nigeria and some West African Countries. I am sure there are other countries in Africa like that.
Sierra Leone’s history is so intriguing!
Sierra Leone wasn't a slave storehouse. Its where slaves who were rescued from slaves ships by the West African Squadron btwn 18:07_1860 were deposited after the slaveship captains had been tried and found guilty. Since the slaves came from different places mostly Nigeria, it wasn't possible to repatriate them so that's why there is a strong Nigerian presence in SL.
@@tvs9978 I must have mixed it up sorry. I'm not from Sierra Leone, my close friend from Sierra Leone is the one who told me about the history of Sierra Leone and how the creole people are the direct descendants of the slaves. My bad
@ilerioluwaolutimilehin3017 that is correct. The Krios (or creoles) are direct descendants of the freed slaves who were either rescued from slaveships btwn 1807-1860 or who were repatriated directly from the US, Jamaica, Canada and England between 1792-1850. But the only point I was making was that the slaves weren't necessarily being held in SL to be sent out to the Americas. They were held there because they had been rescued from slaveships that were trying to get to the Americas after the slave trade had legally (on paper) been abolished by Britain, The Netherlands, the US, Denmark and France.
@@tvs9978that is the correct history of Salone.
Born in the 40s. my grandparents were sharecroppers in Mississippi. Met my great-grandmothers, one was native American the other was a slave. Learned about the farm they worked was the original site that their parents worked. My native American great-grandmother was in the Trailof tears and ended up in Mississippi on a reservation. From age 8- 15yrs spent my summer vacations picking cotton and harvesting vegetables. ❤
❤️❤️ Thank you for sharing with us. Resilience runs through your veins on both sides of your family.
The Vlad guy always have to say no one is really clean while people WENT to Africa to ask for something. It’s wickedness to deny who instigated these slave trades.
Most of us dont get taught about slavery in school, period. All of our various school curricula are imported from Europe, since colonial times.
With tech today. Africans and African diaspora are bridging the gap really fast. And even beyond with other cultures.
Me being a Ghanaian I was taught history in primary school
In our schools thats in Kenya we are taught about the history from migration to slavery, to movements that fought for our freedom. However, we are also taught the role that Africans played in the trades thus from trans-saharan trade to trans-altlantic trade and all parties to from around the world. For me I feel we are like, yes, this was our past but we have learned from that and moving forward coz also sticking to it as of me was pushing people to get stuck on victim mentality and not moving forward when it comes to building ourselves. Lastly looking at the economic situation in Africa and also knowing how history played a role to it makes us focus on building a better future even with the small aspects of freedom we have.
When I was in basic up to high school, what we were taught was how British colonizers/adventurers discovered this or that. The curriculum that is basically used was designed by the colonizers and hasn't been reviewed ever since and presently, the government is trying to remove history from the curriculum; in the case of Nigeria the govt removed it. The level of damage the enslavers or colonizers caused is usually covered up, partially talked about or edited.
I have this thought. What we experienced was hearing tales of people being taken away, we didn't experience it the way African Americans experienced it. So we can't even understand, we can empathise but it will be different from someone who knew someone dead or alive who lived their lives as slaves. Also, if these people had been allowed to keep their names, languages, culture etc tracing roots back to specific African countries would have been a lot easier.
I'm Ghanaian,we were thought colonization in school.. Right from the 3th grade...We know the whole story but we just don't talk about it because there's nothing we can do about it,we can talk and talk nothing will change,it's already in the past...
it depends on the Country and the Curricula available growing up in Botswana, we were taught about slavery and the slave trade, it also depends on the school system, i was in private schooling, not sure how different the private and public school sector is, I do believe we are taught more or less the same thing
Yes, I should have stated this (about the curriculum).
I was taught about it in Botswana public school. However, it was not a practice that affected Botswana and Batswana. It happened in far away lands - over 1500 km or so away at least.
Guys, Im a Nigerian. Now, there were 2 causant agents/catalyst of slavary/slaves. The slaves captured by the chief/slave traders and sold to the buyers. Secondly, enslavement by force - where the white folks came in with superior firepower and just took what they wanted inspite of the chiefs. Now, the effects of slavery would be felt more in the place where the experience was lived rather than where the enslavement happened e.g. the effects of slavery would be felt by the slaves in plantations in america rather than in Nigeria where the slaves were either bought or forcefully captured simply because the experience of being slaves was lived in America and not in Nigeria. I hope my point is clear. I believe this is the reason why blacks in America would talk more about slavery than the folks in Africa. Africans would rather talk more of poor governance, poverty, corruption than slavery
Honestly he's right im in Africa we hardly ever think of that except colonialism.
One thing i hate absolutely is when people make blanket statements. You cant say you grew up in west Africa as if its a country. If you were not taught slavery in Ghana, in other countries in Africa we were taught slavery and even that of the Arabs.
They think about it differently because they're not the ones who went through it. Though I do think they went through their own slavery which came about in a different fashion. But the experiences that happened to African Americans doesn't pass through their mind very much. They're removed from it.
It was not different, because they had to live in fear not knowing their fate, if you would return from your farm or you would return from the market. Worst is the trauma of families separated by the raiders. At the end of the slave trade it metamorphose into colonialism. The British hunt those that refuse to submit, It was same era king Leopold amputated the hands of millions in the Congo. There was constant resistance from all over. The worst is the mau mau resistance in Kenya. If you don't have your card of identification you are as good as dead.
The only history we had in Nigeria, (or should I say I have) growing up about slavery was the show “Roots.” Even as a young child, I couldn’t stand some scenes/episodes in the series.
We felt the same growing up, but we appreciate the knowledge now. Almost every person we know had to watch it when we were on school breaks EVERY summer.
@@TheDemouchetsREACT true, unfortunately most West Africans still don’t know the extent of it. Taking History and Sociology courses in the States opened my eyes to a lot more.
That’s what I meant by what it taught. We are excited to visit the actual locations in Africa and learn the truth from the historians.
Alex Haley, the author of Roots, grew up with his 1st cousin, my grandmother, in Henning, TN. My 1st son's name is Levar, named after Levar Burton, who played Kunte Kinte in Roots. My grandmother's maiden name is Henning, named after the town's founder & slave owner of my ancestors.
Alex Haley is one of my favorite writers. As a writer and history buff, I am grateful for his work. Thank you for sharing this with us!
This slavery causes a lot... Greetings from Ghana (GH)
Hey hey, fam! Hope you are well.
You are so beautiful together ...I wish God to keep you together 'til the end. Peace.
In east Africa, the Arabs were the enslavers and it was stopped by the Europeans. At least that's what we were taught. I think this also brings about the difference in ideologies
For those African leaders and educators in power today, you need to look into the work of UNICEF and its impact on the educational system the world over, especially in the non European countries. I think you will find your answer there.
Slavery and colonization was just 1 part of Africa/African History where as Slavery is African American History
I grew up with people who lived on plantations, they were my friends in school and Im not nearly 50.
Akon is that but in Senegal there are still people today that are descendants of slaves there who are like stuck in a permanent lower caste system