In either the late 1980s or early '90s, my band was booked to open up for GG at a show in SOHO NY, at a club called "The bank." SO we drove up from DC, parked near the club, had some great NY pizza, as one member of our band went in to talk details with the club's owner. While inside the club, there was also a guy with a 16mm movie camera who was working on a documentary about Allin. The club owner asked the filmmaker what was so special about this guy, and he spoke about his stage antics. The club owner immediately said "Show's cancelled, that isn't happening in my club!" So we went back home without playing. We had planned to leave right after our set anyway. While waiting in the van, we got to hear one of our songs played on one of those college radio stations on the far left of the dial.
Is this Dean Evangelista of No Trend?? What band was the one you were playing at the time? Also, yes, GG was in prison from 1989 to early 1991, and then again from Feb '92 to March '93.
Might be that or that lights and speaking weren't allowed after sundown, or the fact that joy, pleasure, and children's toys were treated like a sin, or that his father dug graves in the basement and threatened to murder/suicide the entire family, or.... Point being, GG had an unfortunately messed up childhood.
Interesting video. There's seldom any first-hand anecdotes you can find about the man. (I've managed to find a few in my past deep dives). Thanks for making these, I like hearing the actual story behind the man and not just all the mythologized bullshit.
Joe Queer had mentioned that GG kind of became trapped in the sense of he had to always one up his last thing to become more and more outragous, so this make plenty of sense. I always thought he was just insane. Thanks for sharing. Big fan of the Jabbers btw.
Hearing that his persona was all an act makes me like him a lot more. I remember hearing Joe King from the Queers say he was funny & cool to talk to. Drugs ruin everything, I’ve been on methadone since 2006, I can’t get off. Breaks my heart to see young kids going down that same path of jail, withdrawal, & misery.
I used to live in a punk rock where house called the Hate house in Salt lake City UT in 91 some one put our phone number in profane existence book your own life zene and G.G. called and talked to a roommate and asked to book a show the roommate told us about it that night and said he was afraid to book it in fear of what he would do to our where house and possibly us lol we where so mad a G.G. Allen show in S.L.C. that would have been epic!
Gawd that would've been something. I lived in SLC back then. Where do you think he would've been booked? Burts? Kilby? The Moroccan? Trying to imagine how the venue owners or the police would've reacted
He took his 1st shit onstage in Creve Coeur Illinois July 31st 1985. I was the got that booked the show & bought him the Ex Lax 😂😂I knew him 1983 til he died...he stayed with me several times between 1985 & 1989. I agree with all u said. I always said, his wife left him, he processed the heartache with " I wanna rape all women" vibe. I watched as he progressively changed. On purpose. It was just he & I on the Hated In the Nation tours on greyhound busses etc. I'm a big fan of the Jabbers music & Rob was interviewed on my Church of rock radio show. Long live GG & the Jabbers!!!
Always good to hear from people who new him.My friends who I met in highschool, Backed him up in Dallas. And the show was recorded.(Boozing and Pranks). Me and Gene Perfect have been doing music projects over the years. I met GG in San Antonio.Gene was playing guitar. It was booked at a knarley Hispanic Club.The show lasted for about 25 minutes. GG was really a cool guy.
@@derekmoody1358 So you know firsthand the difference between GG onstage and the GG sitting on a bus shooting the "shit"..but also probably smelling like shit 😀
Nice video but the background music was a bit too loud too hear you. I've asked my dad (Bruce from ri, black n blue days) about gg's transformation, he said when the first met him he still answered to Kevin and was a janitor at a nursing home in Smithfield and black n blue were the only people that ever gave him any real promotion, they thought live fast die fast was gonna be his big break lol
One heck of a pain tolerance, when you realize where his lyrics actually came from and the random photos of him with other musician celebrities..it says something about the him, he was no joke.
Reminded of the segment in the "Hated" doc where in the middle of all the insanity GG gets a guitar and plays a plaintive; very moving version of Warren Zevon's " Carmalita." Real emotional honesty that blew me away. Himted at emotions he wouldn't or couldn't express otherwise. Was he tired of the act but couldn't figure a way out of it?
He was heading down that country path it seemed. Carnival of Excess I really love. Great songs on there. Unfortunately, most people just remember the jockstrap and poop GG. But GG was a fame whore and knew the more outrageous his antics became..the more press he would get. You think if he wasn't shitting on stage those talk shows would have book him? It was starting to work..getting fame..then he OD'ed.
I knew one of his late period band members. He told me they learned the entire David Alan Coe "Underground" album and planned to perform it live just before GG died. So yes he was headed into a Country direction.
Mannn early GG sounds SO DAMN GOOD. I really really wish he didn’t lose focus on the music, dude sounds so fucking great on your Jabbers records, man… you guys absolutely killed it. Really wish he stayed with you guys. When he got the Murder Junkies together, he was just pure animalistic, musics basically unlistenable. His antics were just so ridiculous, you’re right, all for the camera. But still, G was the man.
I was working in an independent record store in San Diego in 1990 when GG Allin came to town. We used to go see a lot of free shows back then because the store sold tickets. Some of the other people at the store went, but I hadn't heard anything by GG Allin that would actually make me want to go see him. So I passed. The next day, one of our regulars came in with these brown stains on his shirt. He said "You see THAT?!? That's GG's shit!" I told him he would have to leave because I was pretty sure it was a health code violation to have him in there. I had to think up something because I didn't want this guy walking around the store forcing other people to smell GG's shit. Another guy from a different record store - who was REALLY big - came in and I knew he probably went to the show. So I asked him, "How was it?" He told me he had never been so scared in all his life and gave me all the details. GG came out buck naked except for cowboy boots and then sort of impaled himself on the leg of an overturned chair. He grabbed a woman, smashed her face in his crotch, took a dump and then began throwing it at people. At that point, pandemonium broke out with people running for cover under the pool tables. Then there was a crush at the exit. The cops were quickly called but by the time they arrived, he was gone.
I thought this of GG aswell, always was a performance artist to me. In the world of Rock n roll animals, Von Lmo might be the most authentic lunatic. Whoever was his friend at one point, they will warn you to avoid him and forget about him. The people who knew him who respect him are as schizophrenic as him. That side is shown in the von lmo documentary made on a small budget by someone who admired him. Just for anybody interested in over the top personalities von lmo did not belong in this universe.
BTW I never heard of Von LMO until you mentioned him. I'm pretty hooked on him rn. I don't see any signs of him being a psychopath yet but his music is awesome.
In Detroit back in the early 90's, bands would purposely put GG Allin (or sometimes the Exploited) on flyers to draw bigger crowds, and then say they cancelled after the opening bands (only actual bands there) played. The crowds would be buzzing, people would be looking for them and waiting lol
Wasn't me. There were at least 6 guitar players in the Jabbers from 1978 to 1984. I played on the No Rules EP but Alan Chapple (bass player) played the 2 leads on it because I was a newbie guitar player and played no leads at that point.
At 2am back in the day in Boston when the clubs would empty out they'd all go to the Pizza Pad and the rockers and disco boys would fight. I was there once when a chair came hurdling towards my head. RIght then a man came and pushed me out of the way. That man was GG. GG Allin saved my life.
The Rat was 3 doors down, Landsdown up the block next to Fenway was clublands but across from Pizza Pad was aptly named NARCISSUS dance-o-Rama @@drasticallyreduced
@@PeterChoyce I've been in that pizza joint..after Rat shows. Think David Minehan got his head kicked in around that pizza joint when all those punk/disco boys were fighting.
Yep, huge difference between "GG" and Kevin. Unfortunately he kinda became trapped in the persona he created and felt more and more pressure to live up to the legend of his own making.
@@freebee8221 Here is the lip synch video we did in 1982. I'm the skinny guy "playing" guitar on the far right. ua-cam.com/video/4vJEv-kT6zs/v-deo.html&pp=ygUXR0cgYWxsaW4gbGlwc3luY2ggdmlkZW8%3D
Interesting perspective. If for nothing else, he'll be remembered for taking onstage outrage as far as it can possibly go, short of killing yourself or others (and he hinted he was open to that possibility as well).
@@drasticallyreduced Yeah, why the guy is anything more than an object of morbid curiosity thirty years after his death is a mystery. (Then again, I never got the cults of admiration around GG's fellow junkie-losers Sid Vicious or Darby Crash, either.)
I bought the VHS with the live fast die fast. This was way before the internet obviously. I was watching my friend and we saw that video and he said this must be the reason he wanted to kill himself he saw this video. Did you play at the COS show when the jabbers did a reunion in Vegas? I was there playing guitar in rancid vat
No I left the Jabbers in 1984. I heard about that show..think I was living overseas by then. Regardless, I wouldn't want to be in the Jabbers without GG fronting it.
I had a feeling it was an act. There is footage of him on UA-cam after a show and he's a totally different person. He's just chilling and signing autographs and thanking his fans for being there
*I HOPE A LOT OF PEOPLE SEE THIS COMMENT* - I had been sayin for YEARS exactly what's said here cuz it's so blatantly obvious - that his wife leavin him F'd him up & that the dude wasn't a lunatic, that it was all an act for attention! The most important thing any1 should know about the late GG was #1 he was a great drummer #2 knew music & what it took to make both good & bad ; good bein his apex the No Rules 7", the 1st scumfucs 7" that followed, the 12" split w/ artless, the expose yourself 7".. the bad bein the Watch me kill 7" & suicide sessions tape! 💯 💯 💯
@@drasticallyreduced not heard this one-I’ll havta listen. I like your drasticallyreduced stuff btw! It’s hard to find anyone who knows/or desires to play 77’80s punk anymore. I’ve always preferred the American bands from that time
Post a link to some of your music then show us how it's done smart guy. You don't know what you are talking about. Never do, never did and never will have done.
@@dmize2839 spoken like a non musician who enjoys the music of gg Allin lol he's cool for shitting in his hand and bleeding that's it there's nothing more to it
He was a nice funny goofy guy.. I met him in 88 on greyhound.. hell even tge bus drivers liked him and I literally spent 2 years telling all the bus drivers he was dead.. he always went by Kevin too with me anyways.. and his musical friends used him to try to advance their career.. but gg you were in his band on his thing and if you didny like it.. they can go the way of chickenshit john.. he always said they were just using him to advance their own career.. Kevin and merle are both really nice guys...
In either the late 1980s or early '90s, my band was booked to open up for GG at a show in SOHO NY, at a club called "The bank." SO we drove up from DC, parked near the club, had some great NY pizza, as one member of our band went in to talk details with the club's owner. While inside the club, there was also a guy with a 16mm movie camera who was working on a documentary about Allin. The club owner asked the filmmaker what was so special about this guy, and he spoke about his stage antics. The club owner immediately said "Show's cancelled, that isn't happening in my club!" So we went back home without playing. We had planned to leave right after our set anyway. While waiting in the van, we got to hear one of our songs played on one of those college radio stations on the far left of the dial.
GG was in the can in 1989 till 1992 I believe. Must of been Todd Phillips doc Hated they were planning to film.
Is this Dean Evangelista of No Trend?? What band was the one you were playing at the time?
Also, yes, GG was in prison from 1989 to early 1991, and then again from Feb '92 to March '93.
I think the fact that his parents named him Jesus Christ Allin might have something to do with something
Really?
Yep
Not his parents..his crazy dad named him that. Mom changed it when she left him and then changed Jesus Allin's name when he started school
Might be that or that lights and speaking weren't allowed after sundown, or the fact that joy, pleasure, and children's toys were treated like a sin, or that his father dug graves in the basement and threatened to murder/suicide the entire family, or....
Point being, GG had an unfortunately messed up childhood.
Interesting video. There's seldom any first-hand anecdotes you can find about the man. (I've managed to find a few in my past deep dives). Thanks for making these, I like hearing the actual story behind the man and not just all the mythologized bullshit.
Awesome, Hard to think he had a job and was married woah lol.
Joe Queer had mentioned that GG kind of became trapped in the sense of he had to always one up his last thing to become more and more outragous, so this make plenty of sense. I always thought he was just insane. Thanks for sharing. Big fan of the Jabbers btw.
Yep. Joe King is a BRILLIANT rockNroll icon.
Hearing that his persona was all an act makes me like him a lot more. I remember hearing Joe King from the Queers say he was funny & cool to talk to. Drugs ruin everything, I’ve been on methadone since 2006, I can’t get off. Breaks my heart to see young kids going down that same path of jail, withdrawal, & misery.
I used to live in a punk rock where house called the Hate house in Salt lake City UT in 91 some one put our phone number in profane existence book your own life zene and G.G. called and talked to a roommate and asked to book a show the roommate told us about it that night and said he was afraid to book it in fear of what he would do to our where house and possibly us lol we where so mad a G.G. Allen show in S.L.C. that would have been epic!
Gawd that would've been something. I lived in SLC back then. Where do you think he would've been booked? Burts? Kilby? The Moroccan? Trying to imagine how the venue owners or the police would've reacted
I love his country rock songs and few hard core songs
He took his 1st shit onstage in Creve Coeur Illinois July 31st 1985. I was the got that booked the show & bought him the Ex Lax 😂😂I knew him 1983 til he died...he stayed with me several times between 1985 & 1989. I agree with all u said. I always said, his wife left him, he processed the heartache with " I wanna rape all women" vibe. I watched as he progressively changed. On purpose. It was just he & I on the Hated In the Nation tours on greyhound busses etc. I'm a big fan of the Jabbers music & Rob was interviewed on my Church of rock radio show. Long live GG & the Jabbers!!!
Always good to hear from people who new him.My friends who I met in highschool, Backed him up in Dallas. And the show was recorded.(Boozing and Pranks). Me and Gene Perfect have been doing music projects over the years. I met GG in San Antonio.Gene was playing guitar. It was booked at a knarley Hispanic Club.The show lasted for about 25 minutes. GG was really a cool guy.
So you knew the real man...not just the myth. Thanks for sharing.
@@drasticallyreduced absolutely did. Many tales/stories I have. Cheers & happy new year hopefully
@@derekmoody1358 So you know firsthand the difference between GG onstage and the GG sitting on a bus shooting the "shit"..but also probably smelling like shit 😀
@@drasticallyreduced 🤣🤣👍
Nice video but the background music was a bit too loud too hear you. I've asked my dad (Bruce from ri, black n blue days) about gg's transformation, he said when the first met him he still answered to Kevin and was a janitor at a nursing home in Smithfield and black n blue were the only people that ever gave him any real promotion, they thought live fast die fast was gonna be his big break lol
One heck of a pain tolerance, when you realize where his lyrics actually came from and the random photos of him with other musician celebrities..it says something about the him, he was no joke.
Good stuff here. Thanks for the post
Glad you enjoyed it
Reminded of the segment in the "Hated" doc where in the middle of all the insanity GG gets a guitar and plays a plaintive; very moving version of Warren Zevon's " Carmalita." Real emotional honesty that blew me away. Himted at emotions he wouldn't or couldn't express otherwise. Was he tired of the act but couldn't figure a way out of it?
He was heading down that country path it seemed. Carnival of Excess I really love. Great songs on there. Unfortunately, most people just remember the jockstrap and poop GG. But GG was a fame whore and knew the more outrageous his antics became..the more press he would get. You think if he wasn't shitting on stage those talk shows would have book him? It was starting to work..getting fame..then he OD'ed.
I knew one of his late period band members. He told me they learned the entire David Alan Coe "Underground" album and planned to perform it live just before GG died. So yes he was headed into a Country direction.
@@rogerdodger6025 oh man that would have been hilarious, especially hearing them do all the n-word songs lol
Damn this is awesome
The spoken word thing always gets me still
Interesting...this guy always fascinated me.
Mannn early GG sounds SO DAMN GOOD. I really really wish he didn’t lose focus on the music, dude sounds so fucking great on your Jabbers records, man… you guys absolutely killed it. Really wish he stayed with you guys. When he got the Murder Junkies together, he was just pure animalistic, musics basically unlistenable. His antics were just so ridiculous, you’re right, all for the camera. But still, G was the man.
I was working in an independent record store in San Diego in 1990 when GG Allin came to town. We used to go see a lot of free shows back then because the store sold tickets. Some of the other people at the store went, but I hadn't heard anything by GG Allin that would actually make me want to go see him. So I passed.
The next day, one of our regulars came in with these brown stains on his shirt. He said "You see THAT?!? That's GG's shit!"
I told him he would have to leave because I was pretty sure it was a health code violation to have him in there. I had to think up something because I didn't want this guy walking around the store forcing other people to smell GG's shit.
Another guy from a different record store - who was REALLY big - came in and I knew he probably went to the show. So I asked him, "How was it?" He told me he had never been so scared in all his life and gave me all the details.
GG came out buck naked except for cowboy boots and then sort of impaled himself on the leg of an overturned chair. He grabbed a woman, smashed her face in his crotch, took a dump and then began throwing it at people. At that point, pandemonium broke out with people running for cover under the pool tables. Then there was a crush at the exit. The cops were quickly called but by the time they arrived, he was gone.
Everyone talks about GG like he full on penetrates women in public. Thats the first time Ive heard an "assault" described like that..
Nice one, that was the spirit club show
Was he not in prison in 1990?
He did seem to have a vision. Knocked me on my ass in Bunrattys once, lol.
He's the original cast member of Jackass
And, well, the first victim.
I thought this of GG aswell, always was a performance artist to me. In the world of Rock n roll animals, Von Lmo might be the most authentic lunatic. Whoever was his friend at one point, they will warn you to avoid him and forget about him. The people who knew him who respect him are as schizophrenic as him. That side is shown in the von lmo documentary made on a small budget by someone who admired him. Just for anybody interested in over the top personalities von lmo did not belong in this universe.
Seth Putnam was pretty crazy too.
BTW I never heard of Von LMO until you mentioned him. I'm pretty hooked on him rn. I don't see any signs of him being a psychopath yet but his music is awesome.
@@TraumfresserBMofficialSeth peanuts whole edgy shtick was so lame. Fuck that guy.
In Detroit back in the early 90's, bands would purposely put GG Allin (or sometimes the Exploited) on flyers to draw bigger crowds, and then say they cancelled after the opening bands (only actual bands there) played. The crowds would be buzzing, people would be looking for them and waiting lol
GG drew crowds? 😀
Why the music in the background? Distracts from the video,.
My hearing must be going. I thought it was low enough in the mix. 😀
Very talented in early days imo
He was very talented, period.
Good comments 👍
Bro, were you the guitarist in the Jabbers? If so you laid down some of the catchiest solo's I've ever heard my man!
Wasn't me. There were at least 6 guitar players in the Jabbers from 1978 to 1984. I played on the No Rules EP but Alan Chapple (bass player) played the 2 leads on it because I was a newbie guitar player and played no leads at that point.
so don't get married, got it, thanks man.
Doesn't matter who you are..men's biggest issues always involve women. Even GG Allin. Went to prison for 3 years because of a woman .
At 2am back in the day in Boston when the clubs would empty out they'd all go to the Pizza Pad and the rockers and disco boys would fight. I was there once when a chair came hurdling towards my head. RIght then a man came and pushed me out of the way. That man was GG. GG Allin saved my life.
The Rat was 3 doors down, Landsdown up the block next to Fenway was clublands but across from Pizza Pad was aptly named NARCISSUS dance-o-Rama @@drasticallyreduced
@@PeterChoyce I've been in that pizza joint..after Rat shows. Think David Minehan got his head kicked in around that pizza joint when all those punk/disco boys were fighting.
Yep, huge difference between "GG" and Kevin. Unfortunately he kinda became trapped in the persona he created and felt more and more pressure to live up to the legend of his own making.
arent you in the live fast die fast video too? Im confused about who you were in the jabbers and what time?
This was after the Jabbers. Only Al Chapple the bass player in this video was a Jabber. The band was called Flying 69. Short lived
@@drasticallyreduced is there any footage of you with GG?
(On youtube i mean)
@@freebee8221 Here is the lip synch video we did in 1982. I'm the skinny guy "playing" guitar on the far right. ua-cam.com/video/4vJEv-kT6zs/v-deo.html&pp=ygUXR0cgYWxsaW4gbGlwc3luY2ggdmlkZW8%3D
Interesting perspective. If for nothing else, he'll be remembered for taking onstage outrage as far as it can possibly go, short of killing yourself or others (and he hinted he was open to that possibility as well).
Doubt GG would have ever taking his life willingly. Made for some good press though. He was a narcissist according to his prison psych report.
I think hanatarash might have gone a bit further, more of in the hurting yourself and others direction tho.
@@drasticallyreduced Yeah, why the guy is anything more than an object of morbid curiosity thirty years after his death is a mystery. (Then again, I never got the cults of admiration around GG's fellow junkie-losers Sid Vicious or Darby Crash, either.)
@@PsyVenthis whole post just screams "I have shit for taste'
I bought the VHS with the live fast die fast. This was way before the internet obviously. I was watching my friend and we saw that video and he said this must be the reason he wanted to kill himself he saw this video. Did you play at the COS show when the jabbers did a reunion in Vegas? I was there playing guitar in rancid vat
No I left the Jabbers in 1984. I heard about that show..think I was living overseas by then. Regardless, I wouldn't want to be in the Jabbers without GG fronting it.
I had a feeling it was an act. There is footage of him on UA-cam after a show and he's a totally different person. He's just chilling and signing autographs and thanking his fans for being there
Met someone who use to work with him at a factory/warehouse and said he was a great coworker and fun to be around.
So the divorce was the watershed moment eh 🤔
Well actually the separation that lead to the divorce a couple years later.
*I HOPE A LOT OF PEOPLE SEE THIS COMMENT* - I had been sayin for YEARS exactly what's said here cuz it's so blatantly obvious - that his wife leavin him F'd him up & that the dude wasn't a lunatic, that it was all an act for attention! The most important thing any1 should know about the late GG was #1 he was a great drummer #2 knew music & what it took to make both good & bad ; good bein his apex the No Rules 7", the 1st scumfucs 7" that followed, the 12" split w/ artless, the expose yourself 7".. the bad bein the Watch me kill 7" & suicide sessions tape! 💯 💯 💯
You forgot his great sense of humor.
Why did gg wear a jockstrap? Was it so he would dump a drop a deuce on stage easy? Asking for a friend who’s a gg Allin impersonator.
That was after my time. But assume he wore it to not get arrested for indecent exposure. Even though it usually got removed during the show 😀
@@drasticallyreduced Thank you for the reply DR 😁 very funny & makes sense lol
Did this bro shit on stage, too? Top notch entertainment I tell ya! Only the best hafta resort to that.
I thought it was a bad hit of lsd.
the Jabbers made GG Allin, that’s really the only good stuff he was involved with. Lyrically was rubbish but great comedic value
disagree..GG wrote some great songs after the Jabbers. Hanging Out with Jim being one.
@@drasticallyreduced not heard this one-I’ll havta listen. I like your drasticallyreduced stuff btw! It’s hard to find anyone who knows/or desires to play 77’80s punk anymore. I’ve always preferred the American bands from that time
Gg was obscenely over rated. Ok songs, silly stage antics. Not impressed.
Okay, Thomas. Let me know when you release an album.
Post a link to some of your music then show us how it's done smart guy. You don't know what you are talking about. Never do, never did and never will have done.
Opinions and assholes.
your face is obscenely overrated
@@dmize2839 spoken like a non musician who enjoys the music of gg Allin lol he's cool for shitting in his hand and bleeding that's it there's nothing more to it
He was a nice funny goofy guy.. I met him in 88 on greyhound.. hell even tge bus drivers liked him and I literally spent 2 years telling all the bus drivers he was dead.. he always went by Kevin too with me anyways.. and his musical friends used him to try to advance their career.. but gg you were in his band on his thing and if you didny like it.. they can go the way of chickenshit john.. he always said they were just using him to advance their own career.. Kevin and merle are both really nice guys...
Agree with it all..except the Merle part 😀