To all who have commented on the ferry sequence, the law on Sydney Harbour is that State Ferries carry a diamond shaped pennant at both ends of the vessel which gives them "right-of-way" over all vessels, sail or power. So in this case the 18 foot skiff was in the wrong. Another local rule is that it is illegal to "surf" the bow wave of commercial shipping. Many a sailor has been thrown out of their yacht race for doing this. I know this from first hand experience.The Harbour Pilots drop them in
0:14 lol, i remember i was in a 420 regatta and the wind was beyond brutal, like gale force and i had my friend out on the trap with only half the mainsail pulled in. Some kids thought it would be a good idea to use their spins on the downward leg, the were gone as soon it was up lol
In many places the ferry is "right of way" but that doesn't mean that it can abuse that power. A sailboat can not maneuver like a motor vessel and during these circumstances there was a race taking places by the harbor which puts things in another perspective. It's all about respecting each other. The ferry could very well have steered to starboard.
IF the skiff was really damaged and stationary, I do not think the ferry has the right to run it down. I believe damaged vessels, out of control, always have the right of way.
The ferry captain would have seen it but there is no way they can stop or change direction that quickly. Everyone who uses the harbour knows the ferry is BOSS!
Right of way in the water: 1. Not under command - a vessel which, for whatever reason, cannot control where it goes. 2. Restricted in ability to maneuver - a vessel which, because of the tasks it is doing, cannot change direction or speed easily, or at all. 3. Constrained by draft - a vessel which must stay away from shallower water to avoid running aground. 4. Vessel which is fishing or trawling (but not trolling). 5. Sailboat under sail or a boat being paddled or rowed - though as soon as the sailboat uses an engine for power it must follow the same rules as a power boat, whether or not it has sails up. 6. Power from what the video showed the ferry was in the wrong he didn't have a draft issue (3), it was manned (1), and could be maneuvered (2) had he chosen to do so, and he wasn't trawling so that puts him in the power section at #6 with the right of way going to the sailboat.
I have allways said, tonnage has right of way. LOL.... but yes, sail boat dose. now there are too many variables to take into consideration here to say what had happend. Did the sail boat try to cross in front of the ferry, and capsize? stuff like that. ferry wouldn't have enough time t ok maneuver....
Yea everything is back asswards in Australia, and Aussies are proud of it. Like another person had commented, the Skiff had been immobile for some time and, the dick driving the ferry said hell with you skiff sailors, rather than putting a few less turns to his screws and steering around the one boat. I navigate around on the Puget Sound, WA State which is a hundred times larger than that little body of water in Australia. We have every kind of marine traffic imaginable and, never see anything like this BS in Australia.
Actually sail gives way to lots..commercial vessels entering or leaving a port,fishing boats engaged in fishing or trawling, any vessel constrained by the depth of her hull,other sailing vessels with rights,vessel towing or being towed etc etc.
your 100% wrong, its is entirely the skiffs fault, the ferries through the harbour run in a well marked shipping lane, there are hundreds of regattas from many clubs all operating on any given day, and the ferries have right of way over all boats. its a race correct, but al that does is add to the unpredictably of what the skiff will do, giving the ferry more need to hold course, rather than confuse the situation...
In the US the rules are the same as anywhere else in the world (at sea) There is never a right of way vessel, there is stand on and give way vessel. Both are required to avoid collisions. Also there are many circumstances (in the US as well) where sail vessels are required to give way to power. As others have said read (and understand) the rules.
Which has more impact? The implementation of that rule by a 100 pound weekend racer, or a 100 ton professional ferry boat captain. He should have his liscense revoked, he should have seen it coming and dropped to a crawl. Mate!
THE RULES ARE AS FOLLOWS; each user of the water does there best to minimise collision in the worst case senario. in this case the ferry did nothing, the skif couldnt of done anything. =ferrys fault
the 18 foot skiff had also been stationary for a while because they were repairing it. but, as you say, the ferry has right of way, it doesn't have the right to be a dick though, he could have gone around.
aerodog2 need's to brush up on his COLREGS. Sail does not have right-of-way over power. The ferry is restricted in it's ability to maneuver much like an oil tanker, or cargo ship is. Do your homework!
just because something is in the olympics doesnt mean its a sport... i mean look at ping pong and womens basketball. neither are sports. but sailing is badass
You have to remember the old saying about sailing "when the wind drops,the fun stops".I've sailed Sydney Harbour & Geoff Waller is dead right...ferries even have right of way over God!
Those guys in the skiff going off the wind doing 28knots......skills, amazing!!!!
Love sailing in the rough! Can't beat it. Especially with a good swell!!
2:10 to 3:10 omg i was on the edge of my seat! so much skill displayed in that minute of footage
To all who have commented on the ferry sequence, the law on Sydney Harbour is that State Ferries carry a diamond shaped pennant at both ends of the vessel which gives them "right-of-way" over all vessels, sail or power. So in this case the 18 foot skiff was in the wrong. Another local rule is that it is illegal to "surf" the bow wave of commercial shipping. Many a sailor has been thrown out of their yacht race for doing this. I know this from first hand experience.The Harbour Pilots drop them in
0:14 lol, i remember i was in a 420 regatta and the wind was beyond brutal, like gale force and i had my friend out on the trap with only half the mainsail pulled in. Some kids thought it would be a good idea to use their spins on the downward leg, the were gone as soon it was up lol
In many places the ferry is "right of way" but that doesn't mean that it can abuse that power. A sailboat can not maneuver like a motor vessel and during these circumstances there was a race taking places by the harbor which puts things in another perspective. It's all about respecting each other. The ferry could very well have steered to starboard.
IF the skiff was really damaged and stationary, I do not think the ferry has the right to run it down. I believe damaged vessels, out of control, always have the right of way.
o m g -- that sound at about 1:20
The sail is under intense pressure and it is trimmed in by hydraulics and that is just the boom creaking against the mast.
The ferry captain would have seen it but there is no way they can stop or change direction that quickly. Everyone who uses the harbour knows the ferry is BOSS!
If they are in the ferry lane...but overtaking yacht shall stay clear of yacht being overtaken right?
Oh my god the ferry....! Jesus...
the guy who taught me to sail (over 30 years ago) told me there are only two types of sailors; those who have capsized and those who will.
Right of way in the water:
1. Not under command - a vessel which, for whatever reason, cannot control where it goes.
2. Restricted in ability to maneuver - a vessel which, because of the tasks it is doing, cannot change direction or speed easily, or at all.
3. Constrained by draft - a vessel which must stay away from shallower water to avoid running aground.
4. Vessel which is fishing or trawling (but not trolling).
5. Sailboat under sail or a boat being paddled or rowed - though as soon as the sailboat uses an engine for power it must follow the same rules as a power boat, whether or not it has sails up.
6. Power
from what the video showed the ferry was in the wrong he didn't have a draft issue (3), it was manned (1), and could be maneuvered (2) had he chosen to do so, and he wasn't trawling so that puts him in the power section at #6 with the right of way going to the sailboat.
I have allways said, tonnage has right of way. LOL....
but yes, sail boat dose. now there are too many variables to take into consideration here to say what had happend. Did the sail boat try to cross in front of the ferry, and capsize? stuff like that. ferry wouldn't have enough time t ok maneuver....
LOL. Mass kicks ass could have another meaning for where I live. Maine.....
Just a bit north of Mass....
No, the ferry flies an orange diamond, indicating that it is restricted in ability to maneuver.
Sydney Ferry has right of way mate. The American sailors either didn't know or tried to cut the cross too fine.
Yea everything is back asswards in Australia, and Aussies are proud of it. Like another person had commented, the Skiff had been immobile for some time and, the dick driving the ferry said hell with you skiff sailors, rather than putting a few less turns to his screws and steering around the one boat. I navigate around on the Puget Sound, WA State which is a hundred times larger than that little body of water in Australia. We have every kind of marine traffic imaginable and, never see anything like this BS in Australia.
depends,18ft with a trapeze and then its b14 without a trapeze
1:40 to 3:20 - does anyone happen to know what kind of boat that is?
Actually sail gives way to lots..commercial vessels entering or leaving a port,fishing boats engaged in fishing or trawling, any vessel constrained by the depth of her hull,other sailing vessels with rights,vessel towing or being towed etc etc.
Come si chiama la barca con il triplo trapezio? Grazie in anticipo
Hope the camera was waterproof
Хороший фильм.
your 100% wrong, its is entirely the skiffs fault, the ferries through the harbour run in a well marked shipping lane, there are hundreds of regattas from many clubs all operating on any given day, and the ferries have right of way over all boats. its a race correct, but al that does is add to the unpredictably of what the skiff will do, giving the ferry more need to hold course, rather than confuse the situation...
In the US the rules are the same as anywhere else in the world (at sea)
There is never a right of way vessel, there is stand on and give way vessel. Both are required to avoid collisions. Also there are many circumstances (in the US as well) where sail vessels are required to give way to power. As others have said read (and understand) the rules.
Which has more impact? The implementation of that rule by a 100 pound weekend racer, or a 100 ton professional ferry boat captain. He should have his liscense revoked, he should have seen it coming and dropped to a crawl. Mate!
uuuhh PUMA
Anyone else leaning their head while they were leaning too?
THE RULES ARE AS FOLLOWS;
each user of the water does there best to minimise collision in the worst case senario.
in this case the ferry did nothing, the skif couldnt of done anything.
=ferrys fault
the 18 foot skiff had also been stationary for a while because they were repairing it. but, as you say, the ferry has right of way, it doesn't have the right to be a dick though, he could have gone around.
The skiffs were fun to watch; the rest is kind of boring.
YYEEEEEEEHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
aerodog2 need's to brush up on his COLREGS. Sail does not have right-of-way over power. The ferry is restricted in it's ability to maneuver much like an oil tanker, or cargo ship is. Do your homework!
and sailing's not a sport? right.
Haha shame to Alinghi!!
just because something is in the olympics doesnt mean its a sport... i mean look at ping pong and womens basketball. neither are sports. but sailing is badass
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You have to remember the old saying about sailing "when the wind drops,the fun stops".I've sailed Sydney Harbour & Geoff Waller is dead right...ferries even have right of way over God!
i would puke