Yeah now its just a slash when I pause on a classic rwby ep in a fight scene I can see the whole weapon and were it's going now they just add a color line on were it's going and I think it's super lazy
Something cool most people don't notice is that Ragora (the purple witch) changes where she's holding her grip on the weapon depending on what she wants to do. Quick polearms lesson: If you hold a hand closer to the bladed end, you get better control over the tip and hits faster, but lacks brute damage, while if you grab as far away from the bladed part as you can, say on the opposite end, you let the weapons's weight (which is concentrated on the tip) gain more momentum, increasing the damage dealt. With that in mind, rewatch in slow motion and notice how whenever she hits with a lot of power, her hands get farther from the blade, while the more controled and precise attacks she grips closer to the blade. This is a level of attention to detail that's rarely showcased (another great example of polearm fighting done somewhat right is For Honor, with a honorable mention on the Lawbringer class).
That level of detail shows great understanding in how the weapon would function in reality and makes the fight scene so much more cohesive and flowing. It mimics the real life skill needed to utilize technique instead of just swinging a weapon randomly
@@stefonrandle9107 That's one of the major problemas I have with fighting in anime-style stuff: Things don't have the proper technique or weight. People are swing these massively oversized weapons all over the place that seems to deal no damage at all at times with no effort at all. Makes the fight looks worse in my opinion. There are two great examples on how to use weight in combat: Grimgar (really awesome but underrated anime) and Fate/stay night by UFOTABLE. In the first, each weapon is handled different, as they have different shapes, masses and are wielded by different people. If you do watch it, pay attention on how each character handles their weapon and how they physique and the weight and size of their weapons change how the flow of the battle goes. In Fate we have a situation that's the inverse: Anyone looking at Berserker, the massive hulking brute wielding a stone slab for a weapon, would assume him to be slow and clunky, but because he's an heroic spirit, that's not the case (in fact, he has the greatest Agility rating of all Servants in that anime) as he demonstrates when facing Saber and rivaling or even surpassing her in strength. So moral of the little essay: Either give reasonable weight to the weapons or find a way to logically explain why it doesn't quite apply in a way that the audience will immediatelly understand and accept.
Believe it or not, I went to college to learn 3D animation. The one of the biggest problems with his first trailer is that he tends to move one body part at a time when in reality your entire body moves in order to stabilize your body balance. It awesome to see his animation progress trailer after trailer... I should know....
@@o.d.d.792 im not an animator, but from the art standpoint, start really observing things around you. What parts of the shoulders move when a person turns their head, how clothes drape, lighting and shadows from single and multiple sources, etc
@@jeiberry Oh, also they could try doing some of the moves themselves, like if they want to feel how their character would move swinging a polearm they could get a meter stick, duct tape a light weight on the end and swing it around in an open area, feel what muscles are moving and go from there, that could probably help too.
I think a little thing that most people don't actually point out in the Viridian trailer is that the enemies have combo attacks and work together. RWBY almost never does this and usually has the big baddies fight one on (x), even clear paired baddie teams like Torchwick and Neo or Emerald and Mercury basically never actually fight in sync or even together for the most part. The only single time I can recall baddies having fought together is in the Yellow trailer where the twins fought Yang, but even that was more of taking turns than actual team attacks. Heck half the time in recent RWBY episodes our heroes don't even have team attacks anymore, they just fight "with" their teammate. What happened to Checkmate or Freezer Burn, what happened to all the training they did to learn these team attacks and having their semblence/dust work in interesting unique ways that compliment eachother. It's like I'm watching a Super Smash Brothers FFA brawl where the only goal is to hit the other person rather than to co-operate with your teammate.
@@crowthewicked8344 Team Deathmatch is basically a Team vs Team match. Usually in games when Team Deathmatch happens, the teams have no actual Coordination. Look at TF2 for example where it's usually chaos and people doing they own thing (Unless you're Medic or Engineer). Scout, Spy, Pyro, and Soldier can all go ballistic with they creativity. Soldier specifically does rocket jumping and acts recklessly but it works.
When I saw SLVR’s trailer, I thought it was some leaked footage for an official RWBY spinoff. The fact that this was made by one man who was a fan of the show is amazing. Mark’s fight choreography in the Regalia trailer is almost indistinguishable from Monty’s. It’s both cool and sad how one fan can design characters animate a fight better than professional animators with a large budget.
@@code066funkinbird3 when it's a passion project you can put as much time as you want into it and fan stuff in particular don't need to release so you can just take all the time you need. When it's professional you need to get a certain amount done in a certain time frame otherwise you are putting back the plans of dozens and potentially hundreds depending on how crucial you are.
Charcoal's weapon actually looks like a falx, not a katana. Ragora's weapon is an axe, not a glaive. I apologise for being the "Well, actually..." guy. On the topic of combat terrain, the Ironwood vs Watts fight really did a good job. Am I the only one that prefers the old designs from the old engine? And by the way, team RWBY's V2 alternate outfits were so damn sexy and they just threw them in the garbage. What a shame.
@@dutch_asocialite Halberds resemble a spear with a relatively small axe head. Ragora's axe has no spear-like spike at the end. It looks like an oversized two handed axe to me.
RWBY inspired a great many things in a lot of people. Hopefully that will be the show's legacy, rather than simply its own narrative and where it is now.
yup, i agree with that greatly. mainly RWBY inspired me to be a writer, because of the color (Red, White, Black, Yellow), character design and the story itself is what inspired me to do writing. its such a shame how the newest seasons are becoming disapointing, since the story lost its color and the story is becoming way to confusing.
@@thegreatmisadventuresofora5987 Regular writer or fanfic writer? There are so many good fanfics that either improve the original plot and worldbuilding or throw characters in a similar yet different world that I don't have enough time to read all of em *and* write my own at the same time.
@@somberflight just a writer in general, because of RWBY, i made oc storys that were inspired by RWBY, mainly because of the characters "colors" and fight scenes, also the weapons. even though i was 13 when i started doing writing, RWBY hevenly inspired me to become a writer. RWBY also inspired other types of writers if that makes sense
SLVR has a great story in its trailers. It would be cool if they had there own show that only lasted one season. Then it won’t be dragged out. My favorite character is Vella, I think she is awesome and would love to see more of her. My favorite weapon is the weapon used in the silver trailer. Being able to make a sword and shield at will is cool.
@@cynical4315 Look at what was achieved by one person! Both Mark and Oum. I'm sure they both had a little help with voices and other things, now just get a few more animators to work with Mark and you could have a potential spinoff series. RT would never do it though.
Iron General that’s most what I’m trying to say It’s takes time and a lot of effort, if they did make a series who knows if they would have a good story line or have the budget to make it. Just because the trailer is good it doesn’t always mean the real thing will be better or worse it’s gamble
That's why the fans are so fun to see Like they actually try to expand parts of the show they like that the OG Rwby forgot about And Teams are the best part in my opinion
Just a little extra on the Regalia trailer that I enjoyed was the more subtle interactions between the team as they assembled: Ragora's quip about time taken after she rushed in contrasted with how the summon went to lick Silver like a puppy gave off some sense of restrained affection, she obviously gets along with him and feels comfortable in his presence. Vella calls the team to apologise for being late to the fight because she had farther to travel. You get to she more of Lycan's brash nature as he barrels down the cliff screams bloody murder. That and the brilliant posing in the group shot gave of a decent sense of group dynamic.
One thing I noticed from Lycan's semblance is that instead of using it to run away or dodge like Blake does, he uses it to actively engage and attack enemies. Semblances are byproducts of someone's soul, it shows that he isn't the type to run away or avoid problems but instead chooses to face his problems head on. Really cool idea that I'm not sure was purposefully added.
F A C T on the Monty Facebook page You gotta scroll really down You can find Mark post his SLVR video link there with a caption about he is inspired by Monty
The first moment of Lysette and Ragora's fight sounds so SATISFYING. That quick-paced metallic impact sounds are like blessing to my ear, can't stop replaying that part alone Also, when Vella rapidly snipes multiple robots sounds so satisfying as well.
I always wanted Team SLVR to be added to the actual RWBY show. But after how bad RT has gone and the show's writing hitting rock bottom. Better not add them.
@@overgrowthj4612 I do hope Monty's wife Sheena buy the rights to the show. She and Monty's best friend are the ones who know all of his ideas for the series which I'm sure Miles and Kerry have over looked them since v4 and onward.
19:57 Honestly I can only think of two examples where RT within the past couple of years has actually done more than "flat plain like area" which were during Cinder vs Raven and Watts vs Ironwood. The former having them fight at one point fight on falling stalagmites while the latter used the gravity part of Amity arena. Thats probably why both fights are considered the best for their volumes.
Yes and both of them were RT's one big stupid anime fight for the season. For a show all about fighting where the story is basically 'let's gather the (insert mcguffin here)' have one good fight a season where you actually use environment is dumb.
my only defense for rt's animation is the yang trailer, which still does some really interesting things with yang... or at least one. where she blocks, but then shoots both of her guns to pivot her body around. its super quick but i love it. and tyrian. tyrian doesnt have powerful guns, but his posture, weapon, and fighting style still seems to use everything he has. his tail to block, prop himself up and slash, and his blades held low to the ground like a scorpion. spinning moves that use both his blades and tails. i love it.
Honestly I'm only a rwby fan because of fan content. The early season were okay but the long wait in between volumes were soul crushing and fanfics were a godsend that made the wait bearable. Now I look forward to fanfics more than anything RT puts out and look at the each new volume with cautious hope that it isn't a complete out mess. It this point the only good thing about the volumes is them giving fanfic writers more material to expand and improve upon in far greater heights the RT people can only dream at being half as good.
Three more RWBY Fanimations series/projects I personally enjoy and would like to hear your thoughts on are: RWBY-30 days (both Lee and Angel, by tommylau74), The DARK trailers (Lone Hunter, Crimson, Ashes, and Sunrise, by Raxacory), and NYON (Chapters 1, 1.5, and 2, by Danger Noodle Animations) All of them are legit good for being fan animations (I personally think the weakest one is Lee, but even then it's decent) Thanks in advance if you look at these! :D
1.I always thought the Creator's made ironwood's robot soldier so- boring to signify the fact that Ironwood always needed order and everything that he did and his mental state in its own right Aka: Also love your video UwU I wish they would do things with glifes in RWBY as well TwT
Killer Orca it’s the stormtrooper effect. It helps to not get attached to them if something happens to them while making sure they don’t take away from the main cast
@@KillerOrca honestly yeah because if they had a really good color palette or good design I'd really really be sad if they died because if they did they basically have the same morality as Penny just without a soul and without a soul it's basically an emotionless person
If the Robots were individually treated like a work of art and decorated then Atlas's military budget would drive the country into debt, they're supposed to be disposable and for ease on logistics.
I mean it won't be coming out for a while, but I'm working on a fan series called PTCH. We're currently finishing up modelling for the first trailer. We've released a song ('Rebuilt') on a channel called Goldwin Productions, and are about to release our second song in a few days plus some concept art, so... I don't know, there's little to review as of now, but if you wanna keep track of the project until its release, I think you'll really enjoy reviewing it! We're putting a lot of thought into the visual style, the pacing, fighting styles, and conveying emotion without words.
@Evan Gellion Thank you so much! Most of the music's not on me though, I just organize the PTCH songs and help with lyrics and sometimes melody. All the EDWS songs and acoustic covers are almost solely on Erin!
@@thejudgmentalcritter6584 as far as in the last silver trailer you're confusing yourself from (a [glaive] to a [dual crescent bladed axe] almost clamped but slightly separate). It can however be swung like a claymore but (is used like a scythe in the trailer as well as a normal battle axe in there as well). In other details it's burst wave blast shots in (non-[actual] long range mode) which can act as wave shots as well as extra cutting power when doing (Scythe like attacks) ,slashing ,amputating, slitting ,chomping, and/or plan cutting opponents.
There are fan-made videos based on the RWBY "World of Remnant" worldbuilding web series. These four are really good ones made by "Lighting-in-my-hand." World of Remnant: Florence World of Remnant: The Aseir Project World of Remnant: Lovestead World of Remnant: The Adalna
I'm actually currently writing a fanfic based on Team SLVR. I've been working on it for over a year now and actually just started posting this past January. I'm planning on doing around 14-15 volumes given the story that I'm writing. Write now I've posted like 8 chapters of Volume 1 so far
Hey Mark, I'm working on my own parody series called BWBY. Three Trailers are out now and the Yellow trailer may come out Friday or Saturday. If you ever want to collab or get a cameo in BWBY let me know!
@@uncrownedking2117 sorry for the late response. Here you go: www.fanfiction.net/s/13480162/1/SLVR I have to warn you though. There's some strong language and it gets pretty violent in parts. Also Volume 1 only covers Simin's backstory. The others will get introduced in Volume 2 since that one is about the forming of Team SLVR. Also the characters are going to seem a bit different regarding how they are portrayed in the trailers, but that's mainly because I wanted to develop them to that point (and possibly beyond) which is why Simin fights with different weapons. Anyway, I hope you like it. If you have anymore questions, just ask.
It hearkens back to what made the series possible. Monty worked basically by himself to create the foundation of the entire show with his original animations.
It should be pointed out that around the time of Silver and Veridian, Mark did work on Death Battle, which was probably where he got those Alpha Grimm Eclipse files for the albino beowolf.
Common misconception: Silver's fire sword is technically a long sword, not a great sword. And Adam used his hilt shot twice when he fought Blake in volume 6 (and a few more times in his character short). RT never forgot.
I think there are definitely moments where things are 'remembered' but the sheer number of techniques that just... died... is insane. Weapons, for the most part, just flat don't transform anymore. My love for rwby kinda fell into fan content alone because of this.
Throughout all of the trailers you definitely see his growth with each one and that's what I love the most about it. Makes me wonder what stuff he could create with a small team (not anything like Rooster Teeth's now, but just small enough to have maybe longer more detailed videos?)
You have to remember all those attacks team RWBY used to do, the recoil propelling, dust infusion, ribbon/gun/kusaraigama were all done when Monty Oum was still alive, there was a huge animation hit during volume 3 and by vol. 4 these were still present added to the new use of the maya engine
No, Simon's semblence is hardening, he can harden whatever he is in contact with. His jacket supplies dust and his semblance chooses the form, notice after he throws the weapon it burst, he's an amazing character, simple ability with SO many applications.
If Mark made a mini series (if he wants to), I would definitely watch it and I think that many others would too. His designs were creative and had a variety of ways to use each one and just changing the terrain on any weapon would cause a major change in fighting animation as well.
One thing I love about Lysette is how she uses her legs to open up space between her and her opponent. I hope a year from now it could be my animations, I have so many that I started but never finished because something else gets in the way. Edit: You should check NYON by my Danger Noodle Animations, but maybe wait until the third chapter comes out, Steve has been working on the models and I can confidently say that they look way better than the ones in the show now, it looks amazing.
btw Mark was at one point under the employ of Screwattack post being merged with RT as a whole (he made the predator vs crysis dbx), and we know from Torrian being moved to Gen:lock that animators can be exchanged between branches. idk what that could mean for SLVR or RWBY, but they definitely know about him and his talents at least.
It honestly seems like Mark understands the fight choreography and direction that Monty stunned us with all those years ago, far better than anyone else at Rooster Teeth. I used to want Mark to join the CRWBY team and help fix the fights, because the fights were THE THING that made RWBY blow up in the first place. But now, with how the company is going? I think it's better that Mark takes his skills and the spirit of Monty Oum's vision elsewhere. Every season of RWBY i just get less and less excited. At this point i barely have any interest in it other than just seeing how it ends. I mean, this is the semi-final season of the show and i've still got no idea where the fuck its supposed to be going. How are we supposed to fit in the introduction of Vacuo, the other maidens, the other relics, and all of the sideplots in 2 seasons? Especially when, from what i've heard, the entirety of Season 8 will take place over only 2 DAYS! So realistically all of that stuff will be relegated to one season, if they even address it. I just... what is going on with Rooster Teeth? They've lost so many people who built the company, theyre overcharging customers, theyre getting political and hypocritical, and everyday its seeming more and more like AT&T and Warner are going to liquidate the entirety of Rooster Teeth as a company. Wheres Gen Lock season 2? Is it still going to be exclusive to HBO? What happened to Nomad of Nowhere? Is Camp Camp just over? Red vs Blue should have ended in season 11. Are they even working on new projects?
From Vella onward, there are several fighting moves where i'm like "oh...oh, that's _delicious_ 😍" like with Vella using her feet to launch an arrow mid-flip.
The main girl of the Regalia trailer reminds me of a Pact of the Chain Warlock. Her familiar can use the Help action to give her advantage on her attack roll. ^^ Great video, by the way! Your analysis is very detailed and I enjoyed listening to it.
I want to sort of touch on that bit where Mark and RT differ with their development time. Mark certainly does great work and he can spend as much time as he wanted on these scenes. He has no deadlines and doesn't have to worry about stuff like dialogue for a narrative, at least not until the recent trailer. And that sort of why it sort of worked for RWBY's early years. It was seen as a passion project and for a web series it had elements to it that goes far beyond what was expected. And that passion is a key factor. Meanwhile RT now with them becoming professional and a legit company, they do have deadlines to keep up. But I think there is something more. All of RT's talent are not grouped up that allows them to do different projects at the same time. They only did one at a time. And it's all one team. Meaning we got the same animators, the same script writers, the same directors. etc. And I think that is very damaging cause it just overworks the company and many can lose passion really fast. It's why I wanted RT to take a break with RWBY and just try to plan things out in advance. Give them breathing room and collect themselves before some get thrown into an early grave. It's why people see some fan projects and think they are so much better then the originals. And I think they shouldn't be brought up to RT cause I fear all that potential and passion will shrivel up once they are on. It's why I say let them go at their own pace.
I’ve been saying that too. They need to give rwby a year or two hiatus to help revitalize the series. Something they could do in the meantime would be featuring fan made stuff to keep people entertained. They’ve been going at this since rwby first started and since they’ve yet to take a break, they could end up like team four star with DBZ abridged and get burned out working on it.
Another animation I think you should see is 30 days. The trailers came out two years ago and whole idea was central with assassins attacking team RWBY. To my knowledge, there's only 2 videos. Tow others I remember is dark and nyon trailers. Have fun.
@The Judgemental Critter RIP Monty.. Honestly this review was a very fair critique of both the SLVR fan series and the OG show. I agree that it is definitely difficult to be really depthful choreography; however, they DO have a whole team. You would think that someone would have brought that critique about in the animators room over multiple seasons of degradation (especially considering there is often a decent number of months between the end of one season and the premier of the next one). Imo, while you hit the nail on the head with our main characters losing what made them unique in terms of fighting style and aesthetic design, it truly shows for newer characters that were heavily anticipated and simply did not live up to the expectations that had been built over so long. Take for example Raven and Ironwood, we've seen snippets of Raven fighting that simply are her waving around a katana very similarly to Adam. Considering that she had multiple blades. has dust abilities, appeared to have some association with the grim, the ability to transform into a bird like Qrow, and the ability to teleport.....yeah, wasted potential. On the other hand we have Ironwood, whose design was my favorite simply because it was minimalist and gave nothing away to the combat skills of the stalwart general; however, when we finally got to see him perform he was nothing more than a hulking brute with a magnum...I like brawler-esque styles of fighting, but jeez they made him feel so unrefined compared to Watts who was temporarily serving as his composed counterpart. Tbh I think the style and character development simply got lazy due to its popularity, "People will watch anyway, so there's no need to put so much effort into it." Idk maybe others disagree, which is fair, but that's just how I feel.
Actually, Mark was hired by Rooster Teeth. He works mainly on Death Battle for the Screw Attack part of it. But I wouldn't be surprised if he eventually did much more than that.
I'll be honest one of my favorite things in fights that I don't see to often, is when the people fighting talk to each other while fighting, I like it and I feel like that add a fair but if emotion and more weight to the fight
I love these trailers, because they document in real time how much he improved in such a short amount of time. I can see that he was inspired by Montys work. And I can almost feel that Mark is just as passionate about his project as Monty was about his own. I would say they are brothers in spirit. It's a shame that we will never see what they could've achieved if they had teamed up!
Not sure if many people notice, but for the Viridian trailer, the final part where she cut the Grimm Knight in half, she used her glyph semblance to magnetize her bow with the ground. Showing that even if she doesn't have the physical strength to cut through them normally, she could make up for it through technique.
I really miss Blakes fighting style. It was in the trailer so good... and in the previous volumes. She used the ribbon a lot to move around, she lookes very flexible like a cat. After the animation change she rarely uses it, and when she does it it looks so strange, it doesnt look like she knows how to use her ribbon, it looks like she just throws a heavy stone... and then she only does it one time, not like before when she used to pull back her weapon, to shoot around her while exactly knowing when to pull the ribbon so the trigger from her gun get activated.
That would be reasonable but I will say this. I'm legally blind in both eyes and one of my eyes is basically useless so I really only have one good eye. I am still a pretty good shot, not perfect but it isn't too hard to learn to aim without depth perception, just make sure you change your aim to take into account you are seeing things from an off center angle...or maybe I'm just a bit biased because I've been doing it since birth.
Weeeeeeeell, basically RWBY fighting choreographies died when Monty died back in volume 2/3. Now I'm feeling like the RT animators team is improving a little (e.g. Ace Ops Vs RWBY) but you can clearly see the differences between the first fighting scenes of the show and the last ones. What a shame 😔
Don't get me wrong, I still liked the RWBY team. But with the personal reason I love if the team has dispersed gender and as myself a boy I would empathically cheer for Jean and would be sympathetic with other casts. With Mark Zhang's team, you can either put yourself as one of the four-member of SLVR, and because they're the main cast of their story, the story mostly centered around them. It's like a boy who loved the Shounen genre and girl that loved the Shoujo genre. My favorite character is Simin, favorite weapon and semblance are Vella's.
Personal, I kind want to see Mark's "SLVR" project become it's own thing then a RWBY clone. Like it has it's own unique world with it's own history and lore. Sure, I want to see the good stuff that made RWBY popular but I want to see something new, especially in it's story then just seeing a band of heroes saving the world.
Vella's trailer reminds me of Red vs Blue's fight in season 10 (I'm not comparing because both are my favorite). Something about freefall fighting always catches my eye and it's surprising how none of those characters look like they are about to die anytime sooner (giving the excuse that they are fictional and are built to be strong and experienced).
I dunno, I just felt Linen was a merger of Sun Wukong from RWBY and Valkyr from Warframe. Wasn't bad, but the design was a simple and straightforward as Linen's apparent personality. Though that might be intentional. Viridan and Regalia were definitely awesome though. Felt like he put so much thought into the transforming weapon shapes, and Regalia the glaive fight took a lot of obvious inspiration from how Ruby used to fight with her scythe, and Edward from Full Metal Alchemist for the wrist sword. I honestly have to say though, my favorite part of Regalia was when she kicked the handle of her glaive into her opponent. Just thinking of using the WHOLE of the weapon, and not just the sharp bits.
Little fun fact the guy who made the music for the last three trailers I believe does work for Rooster Teeth. His name is Brandon Yates and he does some of the music for Death Battle and honestly I prefer some of the tracks he did for that show over Rwby.
You're pretty much right. The fight scenes in recent Volumes have been excellent lately in terms of raw technical execution and choreography, but they still lack that sort of crazy creativity that makes RWBY RWBY. The fights are really good, but they're fights that I can see in other shows, but RWBY is the only show where I can watch transforming weapons, elemental attacks and falling/exploding rubble all interacting at once. I'd say though that the some fights like Ironwood vs. Watts are huge steps in the right direction.
Hope this project gets a dedicated team to works on this, I haven't heard about this before hand so assuming this is all done by one man it's pretty damn good even with animation and pacing issues.
regarding the "hiring Mark to animate for them will not fix the show" this is true since RT actually have a great team of animators (one of them I know is a youtuber called "dillon goo" most known for his overwatch fight animations they're always really smooth and well down with little details, they got people like that but you see how the show is, adding mark won't make the problem go away, it can help it in some places, but it could overall make no difference Individual skill won't carry a group project, especially for a show as long as Rwby
I am definately going to save this video and use it to better my writing skills and character creation/design skills. Your tips about fighting styles, how characters look, etc is definately what I need to help it pop more. Definately not like animations, but still, I know this vid can help. By the by, new sub!
The one reason I started watching RWBY was Monty’s amazing choreography. No matter how bad the animation was, you could always be blown away by the awesomely detailed combat scenes
It’s not just the geographic in fights that’s gotten worse in rwby. Stuff like realistic strategy has taken a big drop as well. A good example would be Yang vs Neo in season 2. Neo takes great time in taunting Yang and taking advantages when Yang lets it get to her, and as Yang starts to come around and get the upper hand, Neo backs off to start over before she loses the upper hand she’s build up with her tactics. Rwby doesn’t do that anymore after Monty......... was left unable to do it. Now it’s just fast paced without concern of anything at this point.
12:30 his semblance seems to be a combo of sun and Blake’s Blake - makes a shadow clone to take a hit for her and can be fused with a element. Fire makes them explode on hit, earth holds the object in place, ice freezes the object in impact. However it they can’t move on their own. Sun - can create clones that fight for him, and explode on impact. But he can’t move while they are summoned. Lynin - can create clones to fight for him, and fused them with elements for different effects. Fire explodes on impact but unlike Blake they can move and fight, he can also seem to move while his clones still exist unlike sun. 21:20 Adam doesn’t actually have a gun in his weapon but wields a hand gun. And he looks to rely mainly on his sword. He uses his sword has a conduit to store the energy he absorbs to throw back. His semblance is similar to yang. Except it seems he need a vessel in order to create the shockwave. And yangs need to be angry and becomes reckless, she also can hold that form for a large period of time, while Adam only launches an attack back once. He unlisk yang who only needs her fists to fight back, he needs a vessel to launch the energy. That is why he was desperate when he lost his sword and why he ran for Blake’s sword. Also Blake’s sheath for her sword is actually sharp and not used to bruise but as a secondary sword. Ruby swings her scythe a lot more because it can turn 180 degrees with her needing to moving it. She can now swing it one way then immediately back for a double swing. Also her semblance seems to have grown stronger so she can moving to different areas with speed without needing to use the recoil of her gun/scythe. And yangs bullets Can act like sticky bombs now, so she doesn’t need to shoot them for extra damage. She can punch then back up and detonate. Also it seems that glyphs are specifically for the schnee family, and few actually can use glyphs without being a schnee. In my opinion I love tyrian’s fighting style. He is a scorpion fauna’s so he used his tail to block attacks and his weapons are like scorpion claws. He is part arachnid so he jumps and climbs around. Also I love his personality, he always wants to please Salem. And he becomes psychotic when he fails her and she becomes disappointed in him. The theory is that he was abused and neglected when he was younger. That is why he becomes desperate for attention and to please Salem. Also he seems to enjoy inflicting pain on others, maybe it is because he wants other to feel the pain he has felt for years. But all of this is just my opinion on how things are. If you think differently then that is fine.
Gosh I really love the SLVR trailers. They are just so much fun and really instills the joy of being RWBY fan in me. I love how the show inspires all these cool projects and drawings.
A lot of RWBY's issues are due to the higher ups above rooster teeth forcing their animation team to work overtime in order to pump out a 13 chapter volume each year, which in turn can and has caused a lot of things to be either cut completely or watered down to meet the already tight deadline. They even said that raven was supposed to have a back story episode in volume 5 but they had to cut it for time
I don't really watch RWBY anymore, but I really enjoyed this video. I feel like I've learned quite a bit about character design in your critique of it and it's left me with some stuff to think about in that. I also appreciate your nuanced take on RWBY especially at the end. Thanks for the video and sharing your thoughts. Definitely want to see more from you.
If I had any talent in animation, I would have attempted my own team long ago. And every character had a very unique fighting style i'm sure you would have appreciated. The leader was inspired by the " man with two souls" story before we realized that it was really Ozpin. Weapon, a cloud-esque buster sword that folds out in a tripod with two additional swords to take into combat at long range, the rest folds into an artillery gun that fires autonomously, basically a mini-Howitzer. His semblance is not actually his, its the spirit of his deceased twin brother's armor that will move about him and automatically block attacks, hence the two souls, his brother is watching over him. Next is a half-dragon faunus inspired by John Constantine, weapon is an armored left wing that trails across the back to a full right arm claw. he can use for somewhat aerial movement but uses an inhalant version of dust for dragonish breath attacks (I.e. Constantine and cigarettes) but his semblance lets him go full dragon. He almost always refuses to use it as it puts too many people in danger as he cant control this form. Next is the former White Fang assassin, a (specifically Peregrine Falcon faunus) that actually has the wings to fly. Uses a small caliber rifle/grappling hook/ harpoon/ spear. it does all the things. Fought because he didn't see the killing of "unworthy prey" as right. The kind that would have a duel with a teammate if the reason was there. Semblance is the ability to immediately switch his position with the last object he touched. He also continues to wear a white fang mask to hide that he has a beak. Last is the Pyro. Think a baseball themed Harley Quinn. Exceptionally fast, laying all kinds of directional explosives on a battlefield in a sort of dance, then lures enemies back into the pattern and strategically detonating things with the controllers in her Neegan-esque baseball bat. And she has everything from cherry bombs to C-4, to prank explosives. Throws a great surprise party as well. youngest member. Semblance: Inability to feel burns. This was a developed semblance, due to several accidents experimenting with fire, the one sparking the semblance was the one that killed her parents. They all have things they regret from their past, so the team name is RDMN or Redemption: Rorrick Grunwald, Drago Contemptus, Falcor Malacarus, and Nadine Ruth.
Tip for the blade coloration (haha): while gray would be a good base for the edge, the tip of the blade should look charred with black and red as if it were burnt from overuse and worn down
Imo Ironwood vs Watts was one of the greatest fights we've gotten in the latest season. The way Watts changed the terrain the slow down, confuse, or harm Ironwood was awesome, And the actually choreography was great. The only lame thing was how they practically had the same weapon. tl;dr :The Ironwood vs Watts fight was the best out of this season because yes.
Part of what made me attracted to RWBY was Oum’s genius at choreography.
I feel like the quality of the choreography started to degrade around his passing.
@@multifandomproblems it did degrade, badly
@@taesty2496 they have been getting better
Yeah now its just a slash when I pause on a classic rwby ep in a fight scene I can see the whole weapon and were it's going now they just add a color line on were it's going and I think it's super lazy
Oum making a food fight one of the most entertaining fights in the entire show speaks for itself
Something cool most people don't notice is that Ragora (the purple witch) changes where she's holding her grip on the weapon depending on what she wants to do.
Quick polearms lesson: If you hold a hand closer to the bladed end, you get better control over the tip and hits faster, but lacks brute damage, while if you grab as far away from the bladed part as you can, say on the opposite end, you let the weapons's weight (which is concentrated on the tip) gain more momentum, increasing the damage dealt.
With that in mind, rewatch in slow motion and notice how whenever she hits with a lot of power, her hands get farther from the blade, while the more controled and precise attacks she grips closer to the blade. This is a level of attention to detail that's rarely showcased (another great example of polearm fighting done somewhat right is For Honor, with a honorable mention on the Lawbringer class).
I rewatched the trailer couple times and did notice that for couple of brief periods. Glad to know there's a meaning to that
Yeah I noticed that too. Great attention to detail. Also For Honor is awesome!!
That level of detail shows great understanding in how the weapon would function in reality and makes the fight scene so much more cohesive and flowing. It mimics the real life skill needed to utilize technique instead of just swinging a weapon randomly
@@stefonrandle9107 That's one of the major problemas I have with fighting in anime-style stuff: Things don't have the proper technique or weight.
People are swing these massively oversized weapons all over the place that seems to deal no damage at all at times with no effort at all. Makes the fight looks worse in my opinion.
There are two great examples on how to use weight in combat: Grimgar (really awesome but underrated anime) and Fate/stay night by UFOTABLE.
In the first, each weapon is handled different, as they have different shapes, masses and are wielded by different people. If you do watch it, pay attention on how each character handles their weapon and how they physique and the weight and size of their weapons change how the flow of the battle goes.
In Fate we have a situation that's the inverse: Anyone looking at Berserker, the massive hulking brute wielding a stone slab for a weapon, would assume him to be slow and clunky, but because he's an heroic spirit, that's not the case (in fact, he has the greatest Agility rating of all Servants in that anime) as he demonstrates when facing Saber and rivaling or even surpassing her in strength.
So moral of the little essay: Either give reasonable weight to the weapons or find a way to logically explain why it doesn't quite apply in a way that the audience will immediatelly understand and accept.
I was going to mention Lawbringer and Nobushi as a reference! XD
Glad you got them before hand.
Believe it or not, I went to college to learn 3D animation. The one of the biggest problems with his first trailer is that he tends to move one body part at a time when in reality your entire body moves in order to stabilize your body balance. It awesome to see his animation progress trailer after trailer... I should know....
Bolderoff Bros I plan on going back to college for animation but I don’t wanna wait time learn so what’s a good animation software you recommend
Can you give me advice on what I should do to prepare for college when I want to learn animation
@@o.d.d.792 im not an animator, but from the art standpoint, start really observing things around you. What parts of the shoulders move when a person turns their head, how clothes drape, lighting and shadows from single and multiple sources, etc
Step B. Blenders good if you want a free starting place
@@jeiberry Oh, also they could try doing some of the moves themselves, like if they want to feel how their character would move swinging a polearm they could get a meter stick, duct tape a light weight on the end and swing it around in an open area, feel what muscles are moving and go from there, that could probably help too.
I think a little thing that most people don't actually point out in the Viridian trailer is that the enemies have combo attacks and work together. RWBY almost never does this and usually has the big baddies fight one on (x), even clear paired baddie teams like Torchwick and Neo or Emerald and Mercury basically never actually fight in sync or even together for the most part.
The only single time I can recall baddies having fought together is in the Yellow trailer where the twins fought Yang, but even that was more of taking turns than actual team attacks. Heck half the time in recent RWBY episodes our heroes don't even have team attacks anymore, they just fight "with" their teammate. What happened to Checkmate or Freezer Burn, what happened to all the training they did to learn these team attacks and having their semblence/dust work in interesting unique ways that compliment eachother.
It's like I'm watching a Super Smash Brothers FFA brawl where the only goal is to hit the other person rather than to co-operate with your teammate.
Torchwick and Neo comboed Ruby in volume 3. But aside from that, I can't remember anything either.
Teammate in Free For All? I believe you meant Team Deathmatch.
@@propheinx2250 Team Deathmatch?
@@crowthewicked8344 Team Deathmatch is basically a Team vs Team match. Usually in games when Team Deathmatch happens, the teams have no actual Coordination. Look at TF2 for example where it's usually chaos and people doing they own thing (Unless you're Medic or Engineer).
Scout, Spy, Pyro, and Soldier can all go ballistic with they creativity. Soldier specifically does rocket jumping and acts recklessly but it works.
When I saw SLVR’s trailer, I thought it was some leaked footage for an official RWBY spinoff. The fact that this was made by one man who was a fan of the show is amazing. Mark’s fight choreography in the Regalia trailer is almost indistinguishable from Monty’s. It’s both cool and sad how one fan can design characters animate a fight better than professional animators with a large budget.
Passion vs Pressure.
@@code066funkinbird3 ones created because they love it while the other just needs to be done
Hope that helps!
@@code066funkinbird3 when it's a passion project you can put as much time as you want into it and fan stuff in particular don't need to release so you can just take all the time you need. When it's professional you need to get a certain amount done in a certain time frame otherwise you are putting back the plans of dozens and potentially hundreds depending on how crucial you are.
“This little bite-y dude” Fine, because no one else wants to acknowledge it, her semblance is a gaster blaster. Now you can all suffer with me.
So Ragoro is female sans confirmed?!
Lol I was thinking about that too when I saw it
Your profile checks out with this comment
i acknowledge it that why i found your comment
Her fullname is Ragora Undertale
"lower the temperature of whatever she touches"
Oh, so she's a better version of both Winter *and* Cinder
Damn, that's cold and yet a burn. You're so right! xD
@@gamma2589 Was that a pun?
@@STN4D Aye~!
@@gamma2589 can I ask you a question, please?
@@praetorianrex5571 Yes. I have now answered your question. Do you have another?
Charcoal's weapon actually looks like a falx, not a katana. Ragora's weapon is an axe, not a glaive. I apologise for being the "Well, actually..." guy. On the topic of combat terrain, the Ironwood vs Watts fight really did a good job.
Am I the only one that prefers the old designs from the old engine? And by the way, team RWBY's V2 alternate outfits were so damn sexy and they just threw them in the garbage. What a shame.
THANK YOU! Someone said it!
>Axe
Halberd, actually.
@@dutch_asocialite Halberds resemble a spear with a relatively small axe head. Ragora's axe has no spear-like spike at the end. It looks like an oversized two handed axe to me.
@@WeissM89 My bad, I meant bardiche. Polearms tend to blur together for me.
@@dutch_asocialite Bardiche... Yeah, I could see that.
RWBY inspired a great many things in a lot of people. Hopefully that will be the show's legacy, rather than simply its own narrative and where it is now.
yup, i agree with that greatly. mainly RWBY inspired me to be a writer, because of the color (Red, White, Black, Yellow), character design and the story itself is what inspired me to do writing. its such a shame how the newest seasons are becoming disapointing, since the story lost its color and the story is becoming way to confusing.
@@thegreatmisadventuresofora5987 Regular writer or fanfic writer? There are so many good fanfics that either improve the original plot and worldbuilding or throw characters in a similar yet different world that I don't have enough time to read all of em *and* write my own at the same time.
@@somberflight just a writer in general, because of RWBY, i made oc storys that were inspired by RWBY, mainly because of the characters "colors" and fight scenes, also the weapons. even though i was 13 when i started doing writing, RWBY hevenly inspired me to become a writer. RWBY also inspired other types of writers if that makes sense
#REMN
The fancreators hold the embers of Oum's final flight.
Yeah RWBY and some of the animators at RT finally got me motivated to work on my long forgotten projects
SLVR has a great story in its trailers. It would be cool if they had there own show that only lasted one season. Then it won’t be dragged out.
My favorite character is Vella, I think she is awesome and would love to see more of her. My favorite weapon is the weapon used in the silver trailer. Being able to make a sword and shield at will is cool.
I've been saying for a long time that we need a spin off to take a break from the main series, maybe for like a year, while they refine the main plot.
I'd love to see SLVR vs Charcoal
Iron General thats imposible for 1 person
@@cynical4315 Look at what was achieved by one person! Both Mark and Oum.
I'm sure they both had a little help with voices and other things, now just get a few more animators to work with Mark and you could have a potential spinoff series. RT would never do it though.
Iron General that’s most what I’m trying to say
It’s takes time and a lot of effort, if they did make a series who knows if they would have a good story line or have the budget to make it. Just because the trailer is good it doesn’t always mean the real thing will be better or worse it’s gamble
I love RWBY fan content. The RWBY world is really special but nowadays rooster teeth does nothing with it.
It does something with it.
S H I P P I N G
That's why the fans are so fun to see
Like they actually try to expand parts of the show they like that the OG Rwby forgot about
And Teams are the best part in my opinion
True
#REMN
The fancreators hold the embers of Oum's final flight.
@ALSO-RAN ! well not really? There was chemistry early on so it does make sense-
Just a little extra on the Regalia trailer that I enjoyed was the more subtle interactions between the team as they assembled:
Ragora's quip about time taken after she rushed in contrasted with how the summon went to lick Silver like a puppy gave off some sense of restrained affection, she obviously gets along with him and feels comfortable in his presence. Vella calls the team to apologise for being late to the fight because she had farther to travel. You get to she more of Lycan's brash nature as he barrels down the cliff screams bloody murder.
That and the brilliant posing in the group shot gave of a decent sense of group dynamic.
AGREED
Also the interaction between Ragora's summon and Lycan shows somekind of rivalry or unfriendliness between them
DEFINITELY!!
One thing I noticed from Lycan's semblance is that instead of using it to run away or dodge like Blake does, he uses it to actively engage and attack enemies. Semblances are byproducts of someone's soul, it shows that he isn't the type to run away or avoid problems but instead chooses to face his problems head on. Really cool idea that I'm not sure was purposefully added.
Another good one is team NYON. It has 2 full epsiodes and the jump in quality from first ep to the second is amazing.
You should see what he's got for the third episode.
@@ProxyDoug 3rd ep is out?
@@returnedtomonkey8886 Not yet, but he's working on it.
@@returnedtomonkey8886 It takes 2 years per episode. We are at the half way point.
They even made a Joke about it in Ep. 2, I love selfaware Comments in shows/Fan-Works
I would love to see a reveiw of the
DARK "Sunrise" Trailer | RWBY Fanmade Animation
And all the DARK Trailers
Agreed. Dude's animation isn't the best, but what really sells me on him are his Grimm designs
That would be interesting
@@mateominiati5256 The animation in the Sunrise one is really good
F A C T
on the Monty Facebook page
You gotta scroll really down
You can find Mark post his SLVR video link there with a caption about he is inspired by Monty
RWBY fan made trailer you can do is Rwby:30 Days-Angel by Tommylau47
Jolie Getui Yess it’s really good
Oh god yes. If you check out any other fan mades, at least check out this one. Angel is just beautiful.
Why everyone forgets about Lee
@@shadowclaw7210 probably cause he uh, is kinda clunky
@@vashythewabbit8288 His weapon is.pretty cool though
The first moment of Lysette and Ragora's fight sounds so SATISFYING. That quick-paced metallic impact sounds are like blessing to my ear, can't stop replaying that part alone
Also, when Vella rapidly snipes multiple robots sounds so satisfying as well.
I always wanted Team SLVR to be added to the actual RWBY show. But after how bad RT has gone and the show's writing hitting rock bottom. Better not add them.
Yeah, it would be an absolute waste. He should definitely find work somewhere more promising.
Maybe not RWBY but how about BWBY???
Honestly with how the OG RWBY show is going, I'd want RWBY in the SLVR show, if you know what I mean...
@@siddiqsmouse5004 Lol I see what you did there.
@@overgrowthj4612 I do hope Monty's wife Sheena buy the rights to the show. She and Monty's best friend are the ones who know all of his ideas for the series which I'm sure Miles and Kerry have over looked them since v4 and onward.
“One piece of fan animations seem to stand above the rest.”
*Happy NYON noises*
“The SLVR Trailers”
*Sad NYON noises*
19:57 Honestly I can only think of two examples where RT within the past couple of years has actually done more than "flat plain like area" which were during Cinder vs Raven and Watts vs Ironwood. The former having them fight at one point fight on falling stalagmites while the latter used the gravity part of Amity arena. Thats probably why both fights are considered the best for their volumes.
Yep. My mind went immediately to these counter-examples.
Yes and both of them were RT's one big stupid anime fight for the season. For a show all about fighting where the story is basically 'let's gather the (insert mcguffin here)' have one good fight a season where you actually use environment is dumb.
my only defense for rt's animation is the yang trailer, which still does some really interesting things with yang... or at least one. where she blocks, but then shoots both of her guns to pivot her body around. its super quick but i love it.
and tyrian. tyrian doesnt have powerful guns, but his posture, weapon, and fighting style still seems to use everything he has. his tail to block, prop himself up and slash, and his blades held low to the ground like a scorpion. spinning moves that use both his blades and tails. i love it.
Of Salem's group, Tyrian was my favourite just for fact that he was new in several ways to the series. Hazel could have been so much cooler.
Honestly I'm only a rwby fan because of fan content. The early season were okay but the long wait in between volumes were soul crushing and fanfics were a godsend that made the wait bearable. Now I look forward to fanfics more than anything RT puts out and look at the each new volume with cautious hope that it isn't a complete out mess. It this point the only good thing about the volumes is them giving fanfic writers more material to expand and improve upon in far greater heights the RT people can only dream at being half as good.
Any good recommendations
Three more RWBY Fanimations series/projects I personally enjoy and would like to hear your thoughts on are: RWBY-30 days (both Lee and Angel, by tommylau74), The DARK trailers (Lone Hunter, Crimson, Ashes, and Sunrise, by Raxacory), and NYON (Chapters 1, 1.5, and 2, by Danger Noodle Animations) All of them are legit good for being fan animations (I personally think the weakest one is Lee, but even then it's decent) Thanks in advance if you look at these! :D
Yang turned into a stand, Ruby got a plastic scythe, Weiss played grand summoners, and Blake likes guns now.
1.I always thought the Creator's made ironwood's robot soldier so- boring to signify the fact that Ironwood always needed order and everything that he did and his mental state in its own right
Aka: Also love your video UwU
I wish they would do things with glifes in RWBY as well TwT
Also if they made them interesting they'd probably take away from the main characters. So they're just straight up disposable.
Killer Orca it’s the stormtrooper effect. It helps to not get attached to them if something happens to them while making sure they don’t take away from the main cast
@@KillerOrca honestly yeah because if they had a really good color palette or good design I'd really really be sad if they died because if they did they basically have the same morality as Penny just without a soul and without a soul it's basically an emotionless person
If the Robots were individually treated like a work of art and decorated then Atlas's military budget would drive the country into debt, they're supposed to be disposable and for ease on logistics.
I mean it won't be coming out for a while, but I'm working on a fan series called PTCH. We're currently finishing up modelling for the first trailer.
We've released a song ('Rebuilt') on a channel called Goldwin Productions, and are about to release our second song in a few days plus some concept art, so... I don't know, there's little to review as of now, but if you wanna keep track of the project until its release, I think you'll really enjoy reviewing it! We're putting a lot of thought into the visual style, the pacing, fighting styles, and conveying emotion without words.
That's very exciting! If you want you can @ me on twitter when it's all finished! twitter.com/JudgmentalThe
@Evan Gellion Thank you so much! Most of the music's not on me though, I just organize the PTCH songs and help with lyrics and sometimes melody. All the EDWS songs and acoustic covers are almost solely on Erin!
Just subscribed bro🤙🏾
@@thejudgmentalcritter6584 as far as in the last silver trailer you're confusing yourself from (a [glaive] to a [dual crescent bladed axe] almost clamped but slightly separate). It can however be swung like a claymore but (is used like a scythe in the trailer as well as a normal battle axe in there as well). In other details it's burst wave blast shots in (non-[actual] long range mode) which can act as wave shots as well as extra cutting power when doing (Scythe like attacks) ,slashing ,amputating, slitting ,chomping, and/or plan cutting opponents.
@@wolfsolo1894 Mark calls it a glaive in the description of his video, so that's what I went with.
There are fan-made videos based on the RWBY "World of Remnant" worldbuilding web series. These four are really good ones made by "Lighting-in-my-hand."
World of Remnant: Florence
World of Remnant: The Aseir Project
World of Remnant: Lovestead
World of Remnant: The Adalna
You should review 30 days angel. It's a rwby fan animation with Weiss and a fan character.
Before that was 30 days Lee, whose mentioned OC fought Ruby
I'm actually currently writing a fanfic based on Team SLVR. I've been working on it for over a year now and actually just started posting this past January. I'm planning on doing around 14-15 volumes given the story that I'm writing. Write now I've posted like 8 chapters of Volume 1 so far
Hey Mark, I'm working on my own parody series called BWBY. Three Trailers are out now and the Yellow trailer may come out Friday or Saturday. If you ever want to collab or get a cameo in BWBY let me know!
Where is it posted it? I can give it a read
Yo, you should send a link, I'd love to read it.
can you link it, ill gladly read it, and ill also check out your BWBY trailers
@@uncrownedking2117 sorry for the late response. Here you go:
www.fanfiction.net/s/13480162/1/SLVR
I have to warn you though. There's some strong language and it gets pretty violent in parts. Also Volume 1 only covers Simin's backstory. The others will get introduced in Volume 2 since that one is about the forming of Team SLVR. Also the characters are going to seem a bit different regarding how they are portrayed in the trailers, but that's mainly because I wanted to develop them to that point (and possibly beyond) which is why Simin fights with different weapons. Anyway, I hope you like it. If you have anymore questions, just ask.
Tbh, fan content has more heart and soul than the original series
It hearkens back to what made the series possible. Monty worked basically by himself to create the foundation of the entire show with his original animations.
#REMN
The fancreators hold the embers of Oum's final flight.
@Tum Tum Season 4. Season 3 still had Monty working on most of it and that's showed through until the finale.
That's just total bs!
@@blueblade6174 why?
It should be pointed out that around the time of Silver and Veridian, Mark did work on Death Battle, which was probably where he got those Alpha Grimm Eclipse files for the albino beowolf.
Common misconception: Silver's fire sword is technically a long sword, not a great sword.
And Adam used his hilt shot twice when he fought Blake in volume 6 (and a few more times in his character short). RT never forgot.
I think there are definitely moments where things are 'remembered' but the sheer number of techniques that just... died... is insane. Weapons, for the most part, just flat don't transform anymore. My love for rwby kinda fell into fan content alone because of this.
@@DBlueDogGaming funny, I see weapons transforming in literally every volume and in almost every fight. Why should that even be a pet pieve?
@@blueblade6174 he meant that they just spin there weapon it turns into its other form we barely get to see its transformation anymore
@@asuraofwrath except we still do. Not everyone doesn't that every single time.
@@blueblade6174 not often and very rarely
Throughout all of the trailers you definitely see his growth with each one and that's what I love the most about it. Makes me wonder what stuff he could create with a small team (not anything like Rooster Teeth's now, but just small enough to have maybe longer more detailed videos?)
You have to remember all those attacks team RWBY used to do, the recoil propelling, dust infusion, ribbon/gun/kusaraigama were all done when Monty Oum was still alive, there was a huge animation hit during volume 3 and by vol. 4 these were still present added to the new use of the maya engine
No, Simon's semblence is hardening, he can harden whatever he is in contact with. His jacket supplies dust and his semblance chooses the form, notice after he throws the weapon it burst, he's an amazing character, simple ability with SO many applications.
Mark changed it so he doesn't have a semblance anymore :P
Awesome!!! More people need to watch NYON second episode BTW!
yes!! ep 1 was cringe but ep 2 was amazing and fun
Ep.1 was rough, but it still had cool shit I liked. Ep.2 was actually fucking amazing and I want to see more from Danger Noodle Animations.
If Mark made a mini series (if he wants to), I would definitely watch it and I think that many others would too. His designs were creative and had a variety of ways to use each one and just changing the terrain on any weapon would cause a major change in fighting animation as well.
One thing I love about Lysette is how she uses her legs to open up space between her and her opponent.
I hope a year from now it could be my animations, I have so many that I started but never finished because something else gets in the way.
Edit: You should check NYON by my Danger Noodle Animations, but maybe wait until the third chapter comes out, Steve has been working on the models and I can confidently say that they look way better than the ones in the show now, it looks amazing.
btw Mark was at one point under the employ of Screwattack post being merged with RT as a whole (he made the predator vs crysis dbx), and we know from Torrian being moved to Gen:lock that animators can be exchanged between branches. idk what that could mean for SLVR or RWBY, but they definitely know about him and his talents at least.
It's crazy to see him go from this, to his latest work he posted 5 days ago. It improved DRASTICALLY, to the point it's like watching a RWBY episode.
It honestly seems like Mark understands the fight choreography and direction that Monty stunned us with all those years ago, far better than anyone else at Rooster Teeth. I used to want Mark to join the CRWBY team and help fix the fights, because the fights were THE THING that made RWBY blow up in the first place. But now, with how the company is going? I think it's better that Mark takes his skills and the spirit of Monty Oum's vision elsewhere.
Every season of RWBY i just get less and less excited. At this point i barely have any interest in it other than just seeing how it ends. I mean, this is the semi-final season of the show and i've still got no idea where the fuck its supposed to be going.
How are we supposed to fit in the introduction of Vacuo, the other maidens, the other relics, and all of the sideplots in 2 seasons? Especially when, from what i've heard, the entirety of Season 8 will take place over only 2 DAYS! So realistically all of that stuff will be relegated to one season, if they even address it.
I just... what is going on with Rooster Teeth? They've lost so many people who built the company, theyre overcharging customers, theyre getting political and hypocritical, and everyday its seeming more and more like AT&T and Warner are going to liquidate the entirety of Rooster Teeth as a company.
Wheres Gen Lock season 2? Is it still going to be exclusive to HBO? What happened to Nomad of Nowhere? Is Camp Camp just over? Red vs Blue should have ended in season 11. Are they even working on new projects?
These are really impressive fan made projects
isn´t the clone semblence more like sun´s thing to do instead of blake´s ?
It's a more of a mix between the two
A combination of the two
Yep, I was thinking that too, but since he also infuses it with dust like Blake, I guess it's fair to say it's more of a mix
Its like if you mixed the two and made them more fun.
Regalia is just a stand user, change my mind
From Vella onward, there are several fighting moves where i'm like "oh...oh, that's _delicious_ 😍" like with Vella using her feet to launch an arrow mid-flip.
The main girl of the Regalia trailer reminds me of a Pact of the Chain Warlock. Her familiar can use the Help action to give her advantage on her attack roll. ^^
Great video, by the way! Your analysis is very detailed and I enjoyed listening to it.
I want to sort of touch on that bit where Mark and RT differ with their development time. Mark certainly does great work and he can spend as much time as he wanted on these scenes. He has no deadlines and doesn't have to worry about stuff like dialogue for a narrative, at least not until the recent trailer. And that sort of why it sort of worked for RWBY's early years. It was seen as a passion project and for a web series it had elements to it that goes far beyond what was expected. And that passion is a key factor.
Meanwhile RT now with them becoming professional and a legit company, they do have deadlines to keep up. But I think there is something more. All of RT's talent are not grouped up that allows them to do different projects at the same time. They only did one at a time. And it's all one team. Meaning we got the same animators, the same script writers, the same directors. etc. And I think that is very damaging cause it just overworks the company and many can lose passion really fast. It's why I wanted RT to take a break with RWBY and just try to plan things out in advance. Give them breathing room and collect themselves before some get thrown into an early grave. It's why people see some fan projects and think they are so much better then the originals. And I think they shouldn't be brought up to RT cause I fear all that potential and passion will shrivel up once they are on. It's why I say let them go at their own pace.
I’ve been saying that too. They need to give rwby a year or two hiatus to help revitalize the series. Something they could do in the meantime would be featuring fan made stuff to keep people entertained. They’ve been going at this since rwby first started and since they’ve yet to take a break, they could end up like team four star with DBZ abridged and get burned out working on it.
Another animation I think you should see is 30 days. The trailers came out two years ago and whole idea was central with assassins attacking team RWBY. To my knowledge, there's only 2 videos. Tow others I remember is dark and nyon trailers.
Have fun.
@The Judgemental Critter
RIP Monty.. Honestly this review was a very fair critique of both the SLVR fan series and the OG show. I agree that it is definitely difficult to be really depthful choreography; however, they DO have a whole team. You would think that someone would have brought that critique about in the animators room over multiple seasons of degradation (especially considering there is often a decent number of months between the end of one season and the premier of the next one).
Imo, while you hit the nail on the head with our main characters losing what made them unique in terms of fighting style and aesthetic design, it truly shows for newer characters that were heavily anticipated and simply did not live up to the expectations that had been built over so long. Take for example Raven and Ironwood, we've seen snippets of Raven fighting that simply are her waving around a katana very similarly to Adam. Considering that she had multiple blades. has dust abilities, appeared to have some association with the grim, the ability to transform into a bird like Qrow, and the ability to teleport.....yeah, wasted potential. On the other hand we have Ironwood, whose design was my favorite simply because it was minimalist and gave nothing away to the combat skills of the stalwart general; however, when we finally got to see him perform he was nothing more than a hulking brute with a magnum...I like brawler-esque styles of fighting, but jeez they made him feel so unrefined compared to Watts who was temporarily serving as his composed counterpart.
Tbh I think the style and character development simply got lazy due to its popularity, "People will watch anyway, so there's no need to put so much effort into it." Idk maybe others disagree, which is fair, but that's just how I feel.
Actually, Mark was hired by Rooster Teeth. He works mainly on Death Battle for the Screw Attack part of it. But I wouldn't be surprised if he eventually did much more than that.
I'll be honest one of my favorite things in fights that I don't see to often, is when the people fighting talk to each other while fighting, I like it and I feel like that add a fair but if emotion and more weight to the fight
I really like how Regalia's weapon doesnt look like it would be too heavy for her, unlike Ruby.
I love these trailers, because they document in real time how much he improved in such a short amount of time. I can see that he was inspired by Montys work. And I can almost feel that Mark is just as passionate about his project as Monty was about his own. I would say they are brothers in spirit. It's a shame that we will never see what they could've achieved if they had teamed up!
Who else thought Lycan was Blake's and Sun's kid? I'm not against Bumblebee don't worry.
Well I am.
Blake and Sun had a kid and he came out somehow as a fusion of Wolverine and Bakugo.
Not sure if many people notice, but for the Viridian trailer, the final part where she cut the Grimm Knight in half, she used her glyph semblance to magnetize her bow with the ground. Showing that even if she doesn't have the physical strength to cut through them normally, she could make up for it through technique.
I really miss Blakes fighting style. It was in the trailer so good... and in the previous volumes. She used the ribbon a lot to move around, she lookes very flexible like a cat. After the animation change she rarely uses it, and when she does it it looks so strange, it doesnt look like she knows how to use her ribbon, it looks like she just throws a heavy stone... and then she only does it one time, not like before when she used to pull back her weapon, to shoot around her while exactly knowing when to pull the ribbon so the trigger from her gun get activated.
i feel kind of dumb now that i'd looked at that trailor and thought "well its been a year clearly we aren't going to see anymore of this"
8:47 I always thought Cinder doesn’t use her bow anymore because of her lack of depth perception from losing her left eye at the fall of beacon
That would be reasonable but I will say this. I'm legally blind in both eyes and one of my eyes is basically useless so I really only have one good eye. I am still a pretty good shot, not perfect but it isn't too hard to learn to aim without depth perception, just make sure you change your aim to take into account you are seeing things from an off center angle...or maybe I'm just a bit biased because I've been doing it since birth.
Well then again, that never seems to bother her, especially when she's yeeting a spear at Weiss
Weeeeeeeell, basically RWBY fighting choreographies died when Monty died back in volume 2/3.
Now I'm feeling like the RT animators team is improving a little (e.g. Ace Ops Vs RWBY) but you can clearly see the differences between the first fighting scenes of the show and the last ones.
What a shame 😔
Nice vid! I think if you want suggestions on what to review next in terms of RWBY fan animation, try the NYON trailers and RWBY: 30 Days
"Is there any other fan animations I should review?"
Me: . . . Fishing pole...
Don't get me wrong, I still liked the RWBY team. But with the personal reason I love if the team has dispersed
gender and as myself a boy I would empathically cheer for Jean and would be sympathetic with other casts. With Mark Zhang's team, you can either put yourself as one of the four-member of SLVR, and because they're the main cast of their story, the story mostly centered around them. It's like a boy who loved the Shounen genre and girl that loved the Shoujo genre.
My favorite character is Simin, favorite weapon and semblance are Vella's.
Didn't even know these trailers existed. So happy you introduced me to it!
I think you should review RWBY:KCAL trailers. I'd love to hear your thoughts.
I just love regora's design. I am totally in on the witch outfit
Oh my god I literally forgot about that ribbon Blake thing. It was one of my favourite things of Blake's past fighting style ever.
I love bow and arrow combat aswell it’s disappointing the weapon is hardly in the show
By the way Mark has a new animation out wherebhe has teamed up with some other Rwby fan animators and are hosting a OC tournament it looks really good
Personal, I kind want to see Mark's "SLVR" project become it's own thing then a RWBY clone. Like it has it's own unique world with it's own history and lore. Sure, I want to see the good stuff that made RWBY popular but I want to see something new, especially in it's story then just seeing a band of heroes saving the world.
I love that every trailer has a moon shot
Vella's trailer reminds me of Red vs Blue's fight in season 10 (I'm not comparing because both are my favorite). Something about freefall fighting always catches my eye and it's surprising how none of those characters look like they are about to die anytime sooner (giving the excuse that they are fictional and are built to be strong and experienced).
Considering how bad the working environment in rooster teeth has been revealed to be, I think Mark dodged a bullet by not working for them.
I dunno, I just felt Linen was a merger of Sun Wukong from RWBY and Valkyr from Warframe. Wasn't bad, but the design was a simple and straightforward as Linen's apparent personality. Though that might be intentional. Viridan and Regalia were definitely awesome though. Felt like he put so much thought into the transforming weapon shapes, and Regalia the glaive fight took a lot of obvious inspiration from how Ruby used to fight with her scythe, and Edward from Full Metal Alchemist for the wrist sword. I honestly have to say though, my favorite part of Regalia was when she kicked the handle of her glaive into her opponent. Just thinking of using the WHOLE of the weapon, and not just the sharp bits.
Vella's Semblance look so much like Maria's weapon with gravity dust.
The regalia trailer stage was giving to him to make the trailer.
Not sure who...
I believe it was from the guy doing the NYON series.
Mark mentioned that at the end of the video's description
Little fun fact the guy who made the music for the last three trailers I believe does work for Rooster Teeth. His name is Brandon Yates and he does some of the music for Death Battle and honestly I prefer some of the tracks he did for that show over Rwby.
You're pretty much right. The fight scenes in recent Volumes have been excellent lately in terms of raw technical execution and choreography, but they still lack that sort of crazy creativity that makes RWBY RWBY. The fights are really good, but they're fights that I can see in other shows, but RWBY is the only show where I can watch transforming weapons, elemental attacks and falling/exploding rubble all interacting at once. I'd say though that the some fights like Ironwood vs. Watts are huge steps in the right direction.
Hope this project gets a dedicated team to works on this, I haven't heard about this before hand so assuming this is all done by one man it's pretty damn good even with animation and pacing issues.
Please look at Lee character design. I swear it’s the best thing I’ve ever seen. Especially with his walking animation.
This maybe your first video that has 100k views.
Congratulations.
regarding the "hiring Mark to animate for them will not fix the show"
this is true since RT actually have a great team of animators (one of them I know is a youtuber called "dillon goo" most known for his overwatch fight animations they're always really smooth and well down with little details, they got people like that but you see how the show is, adding mark won't make the problem go away, it can help it in some places, but it could overall make no difference
Individual skill won't carry a group project, especially for a show as long as Rwby
I am definately going to save this video and use it to better my writing skills and character creation/design skills. Your tips about fighting styles, how characters look, etc is definately what I need to help it pop more. Definately not like animations, but still, I know this vid can help.
By the by, new sub!
The one reason I started watching RWBY was Monty’s amazing choreography. No matter how bad the animation was, you could always be blown away by the awesomely detailed combat scenes
It’s not just the geographic in fights that’s gotten worse in rwby. Stuff like realistic strategy has taken a big drop as well. A good example would be Yang vs Neo in season 2. Neo takes great time in taunting Yang and taking advantages when Yang lets it get to her, and as Yang starts to come around and get the upper hand, Neo backs off to start over before she loses the upper hand she’s build up with her tactics. Rwby doesn’t do that anymore after Monty......... was left unable to do it. Now it’s just fast paced without concern of anything at this point.
12:30 his semblance seems to be a combo of sun and Blake’s
Blake - makes a shadow clone to take a hit for her and can be fused with a element. Fire makes them explode on hit, earth holds the object in place, ice freezes the object in impact. However it they can’t move on their own.
Sun - can create clones that fight for him, and explode on impact. But he can’t move while they are summoned.
Lynin - can create clones to fight for him, and fused them with elements for different effects. Fire explodes on impact but unlike Blake they can move and fight, he can also seem to move while his clones still exist unlike sun.
21:20 Adam doesn’t actually have a gun in his weapon but wields a hand gun. And he looks to rely mainly on his sword. He uses his sword has a conduit to store the energy he absorbs to throw back. His semblance is similar to yang. Except it seems he need a vessel in order to create the shockwave. And yangs need to be angry and becomes reckless, she also can hold that form for a large period of time, while Adam only launches an attack back once. He unlisk yang who only needs her fists to fight back, he needs a vessel to launch the energy. That is why he was desperate when he lost his sword and why he ran for Blake’s sword.
Also Blake’s sheath for her sword is actually sharp and not used to bruise but as a secondary sword. Ruby swings her scythe a lot more because it can turn 180 degrees with her needing to moving it. She can now swing it one way then immediately back for a double swing. Also her semblance seems to have grown stronger so she can moving to different areas with speed without needing to use the recoil of her gun/scythe. And yangs bullets Can act like sticky bombs now, so she doesn’t need to shoot them for extra damage. She can punch then back up and detonate.
Also it seems that glyphs are specifically for the schnee family, and few actually can use glyphs without being a schnee.
In my opinion I love tyrian’s fighting style. He is a scorpion fauna’s so he used his tail to block attacks and his weapons are like scorpion claws. He is part arachnid so he jumps and climbs around. Also I love his personality, he always wants to please Salem. And he becomes psychotic when he fails her and she becomes disappointed in him. The theory is that he was abused and neglected when he was younger. That is why he becomes desperate for attention and to please Salem. Also he seems to enjoy inflicting pain on others, maybe it is because he wants other to feel the pain he has felt for years.
But all of this is just my opinion on how things are. If you think differently then that is fine.
Gosh I really love the SLVR trailers. They are just so much fun and really instills the joy of being RWBY fan in me. I love how the show inspires all these cool projects and drawings.
Seeing marks work makes me embrace independent works so much. These passion projects can bring to light very talented animators and creators.
Not gonna lie i would love to see mark make a actually volume of SLVR.
You should review the two animations from tommylau74, Lee and Angel, It´s darker than rwby or slvr, but it´s pretty good animated
A lot of RWBY's issues are due to the higher ups above rooster teeth forcing their animation team to work overtime in order to pump out a 13 chapter volume each year, which in turn can and has caused a lot of things to be either cut completely or watered down to meet the already tight deadline. They even said that raven was supposed to have a back story episode in volume 5 but they had to cut it for time
I don't really watch RWBY anymore, but I really enjoyed this video. I feel like I've learned quite a bit about character design in your critique of it and it's left me with some stuff to think about in that. I also appreciate your nuanced take on RWBY especially at the end. Thanks for the video and sharing your thoughts. Definitely want to see more from you.
Mark actually was kinda hired by RT. More specifically, he was hired by Screwattack, which is owned by RT.
If I had any talent in animation, I would have attempted my own team long ago. And every character had a very unique fighting style i'm sure you would have appreciated. The leader was inspired by the " man with two souls" story before we realized that it was really Ozpin. Weapon, a cloud-esque buster sword that folds out in a tripod with two additional swords to take into combat at long range, the rest folds into an artillery gun that fires autonomously, basically a mini-Howitzer. His semblance is not actually his, its the spirit of his deceased twin brother's armor that will move about him and automatically block attacks, hence the two souls, his brother is watching over him. Next is a half-dragon faunus inspired by John Constantine, weapon is an armored left wing that trails across the back to a full right arm claw. he can use for somewhat aerial movement but uses an inhalant version of dust for dragonish breath attacks (I.e. Constantine and cigarettes) but his semblance lets him go full dragon. He almost always refuses to use it as it puts too many people in danger as he cant control this form. Next is the former White Fang assassin, a (specifically Peregrine Falcon faunus) that actually has the wings to fly. Uses a small caliber rifle/grappling hook/ harpoon/ spear. it does all the things. Fought because he didn't see the killing of "unworthy prey" as right. The kind that would have a duel with a teammate if the reason was there. Semblance is the ability to immediately switch his position with the last object he touched. He also continues to wear a white fang mask to hide that he has a beak. Last is the Pyro. Think a baseball themed Harley Quinn. Exceptionally fast, laying all kinds of directional explosives on a battlefield in a sort of dance, then lures enemies back into the pattern and strategically detonating things with the controllers in her Neegan-esque baseball bat. And she has everything from cherry bombs to C-4, to prank explosives. Throws a great surprise party as well. youngest member. Semblance: Inability to feel burns. This was a developed semblance, due to several accidents experimenting with fire, the one sparking the semblance was the one that killed her parents. They all have things they regret from their past, so the team name is RDMN or Redemption: Rorrick Grunwald, Drago Contemptus, Falcor Malacarus, and Nadine Ruth.
The only way to have fun watching fights in RWBY is to cut out all the talks and speed the fights up
Tip for the blade coloration (haha): while gray would be a good base for the edge, the tip of the blade should look charred with black and red as if it were burnt from overuse and worn down
A fun review would be 30 days: Angel. A very nifty RWBY fan animation I'd say, especially due to the narrative behind it.
For, clarification mark uses the maya animation software not poser as you stated. He confirmed so on twitter in his replies to a question.
Imo Ironwood vs Watts was one of the greatest fights we've gotten in the latest season. The way Watts changed the terrain the slow down, confuse, or harm Ironwood was awesome, And the actually choreography was great. The only lame thing was how they practically had the same weapon.
tl;dr :The Ironwood vs Watts fight was the best out of this season because yes.
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Lizette gives the middle finger to physics.