When you talk about the Layla "coda", a hidden part of the story is the influence of Robert Stigwood, who managed Derek and the Dominos. My ex-partner was Stigwood's partner during that time, Robert Fitzpatrick. Jim Gordon flat out stole the coda music from his girlfriend Rita Coolidge and Stigwood took his share of the publishing and made sure that coda was tacked on the end of the song. Bobby, Eric and Carl didn't want to do it but Stigwood forced his hand. When Rita confronted Stigwood he said, "what are you gonna do, you're just a girl". Stigwood was a very bad guy. The stuff he did with Barry Gibb is unprintable.
It’s amazing how almost all these old entertainment biz guys were all scumbags. Harvey Weinstein is just the tip of the iceberg. David Geffen, billionaire, is regarded as a saint, just because he DIDN’T rip off everyone, all the time. But why aren’t all his famous musician clients worth a billion, even with all their wealth put together ?
@@mazzysmusicIt’s amazing, in a bad way that is, what scumbags most of these music and movie moguls were. They ripped off the men, abused the women, and we all know what they did with the black artists. Harvey Weinstein was just the tip of the iceberg.
I highly doubt he "flat out" stole the coda. That story has been exaggerated to no end. Gordon wasn't some half-assed, hippie musician. Beyond drumming, he was an accomplished musician since he was a teen - he could read and write music. Read what you want on Blogs, those little Facebook posts or what Bobby Whitlock (keyboardist) says. While Whitlock appreciated Gordon’s talent immensely, he did NOT like Gordon personally (and his story doesn't even jive with hers). I’ll stick with what she wrote herself in her book, which is quite telling. Here it is: ******************* Excerpted from Delta Lady: A Memoir by Rita Coolidge with Michael Walker. Copyright (c) by Rita Coolidge. Reprinted by permission of Harper, an imprint of HarperCollins Publishers “One afternoon in 1970, Jim Gordon came over to my house in Hollywood, sat down at the piano, and played for me a chord progression he’d just composed. Most people know Jim as one of L.A.’s top session drummers in the early ‘70s -- he played on everything from Glen Campbell’s “Wichita Lineman” to the Beach Boys’ Pet Sounds album -- but he was also a capable pianist, and because he was exposed to so many styles of music, he had a well-developed sense of melody and structure. "The chords Jim played for me were in the key of C sharp and built to an eight-note refrain before the progression repeated. There was something haunting about it, especially when the bright major chords suddenly dipped to B-flat 7th for the refrain. It also seemed deeply familiar-like when you meet someone you’re immediately attracted to who seems at once both exotic and approachable.” “I loved Jim’s progression, but at the moment that’s all it was -- a stunning riff, not a song. As we played with it, a second progression suddenly came to me, a countermelody in the key of G that “answered” and resolved the tension of Jim’s chords and built to a dramatic crescendo that bridged the song’s beginning and ending. I wrote lyrics that reflected the melody’s sense of fatalism and hope (“my darling believe me, don’t ever leave me, we’ve got a million years to show them that our love is real.”). Jim and I ended up calling it “Time (Don’t Let the World Get In Our Way)” and taped a demo. We played the song for Eric Clapton when we were in England touring with Delanie and Bonnie"
The live Derek & The Dominos album was incandescent; and still is. Clapton was never able to surpass that very high point. And Jim Gordon was right there, every second of it.
I also loved Jim Gordon's drumming. He even played percussion on Pet Sounds. I normally don't care for drum solos too much, but I really liked his solo on Let It Rain on the live Derek and the Dominos album. His personal story is heartbreaking, but what a drummer!
During the famous argument between members of the Byrds during the recording of 'Notorious Byrds', Chris Hillman suggested getting Hal Blaine in, but they went to Jim Gordon instead, including for the slow version of 'Goin' Back'. His playing on the outro is superb. Nothing fancy but great feel and perfect for the song.
Derek & the Dominos In Concert - gotta be one of the most underrated rock live albums of all. Superb playing from everybody. How about Clapton's solo on "Bottle of Red Wine"? Killer.
I have fond memories of 1970 listening to Dave Mason's Alone Together and Eric Clapton's solo album over and over . Both had Jim Gordon as the drummer. I enjoyed your observations and analysis. I just finished the book too.
Have loved Jim Gordon's playing for years. A hidden gem is his playing on David Gates solo album 'First'. Some knock out drumming on 'do you believe he's coming' and others
Derek and the Dominoes Layla and assorted Love Songs and George Harrison All Things Must Pass and Mad Dogs and Englishman were released that year as well. Jim was a very prolific studio musician that year.
Jim was not a stupid man ,he had many troubles as we know & the end of the story of his sad life as he began the downhill spiral into madness. Take that part out & take him for his talent . He played with everyone & was always hot as hell . One of Rocks best drummers hands down . I am a bit biased & still think his drumming with Clapton & Duane Allman & Delaney & Bonnie & Dave Mason , they didn't come much better in Rock . I have an original copy of Dave's Alone Together which does open up or fold out & according to Dave he used a Telecaster on most if not all this LP. He also stated they did the marble wax because it made the DJs play the whole LP as they couldn't find the separate tracks & no two albums were the same color scheme. He said it was the old spin painting we had as kids that went to the carnivals LOL .. Some very interesting thing being told by Bobby Whitlock on his channel about Jim & the Layla sessions. As awesome as Jim was then i can only imagine how good he would be now. Truly a sad case & any drummer would have to say we miss him & wish these bad things had not happened to him & we feel for his mother as well , Very sad. I'm not a drummer but a guitarist but without a good drummer we can't ROCK !!!
Thanks for sharing! Yes, Jim was fantastic, and deserves greater recognition. Unmistakable rolling beat. Need to get the Judy Collins vinyl now for my daughter (who is a singer)
Cool album choices...the thread of Jim Gordon! Regarding Dave Mason...an underrated guitarist if there ever was one. His song "Only You Know And I Know.." has one of the hardest acoustic rhythm guitar parts known to mankind. Sounds easy enough, but it's pure genius. Lots of artists have covered it, but only he knows (ha!) how to play that song. Regarding Gordon's feel on this track...the similarities to that and Motherless Children off of Clapton's 461 Ocean Blvd album are pretty uncanny....just sayin'. Keep up the great videos! You got me originally with the post about the early Steve Miller Band...for that alone you have my ultimate respect!
Thank you for highlighting one of the most amazing drummers. I likened his ability to drive a band to the great one, Buddy Rich. Rolling Stone put out a great article about Jim's tragic life back in the mid 80's if I am remembering correctly. Look it up it was very well written
Looking forward to your Jim Gordon video. When you showed the Nillson album it reminded me of a late wild man drummer local to me.. Roger Pope… he plays on one track of “Schmillson”. Was a lovely but crazy guy, used to chat with him at the bar. Had so many wild stories like why Elton John sacked him…doing an audition for Zappa etc.. He was a close friend of Keith Moon.
Hey Mazzy. My Alone Together album has a cut out of Dave Mason’s hat and an extra fold . There is a punch out whole on the hat . My copy is noisy and pressed off center! I love the Nilsson album . The low bass on Jump into the fire is incredible! My original wasn’t Dynaflex. Good video ad usual .
Yeah he said it was Herbie Flowers' bass on Jump Into The Fire. Same dude who played the amazing bass (acoustic and electric double tracked) on Lou's Walk On The Wildside, I believe.
So well recorded. I was 16 yr old when they played several cuts of D&D on a FM album oriented radio station in El Paso, Texas. That was a banner year for me as a student of music during a Renaissance period. Lucky me!
The more I watch your channel the more I realize that the breadth of my musical experience has been far too limited. Thanks Mazzy for helping to rectify some of that.
Nice video talking about the late Jim Gordon! It’s a shame what happened to him as he had mental illness but he was probably one of the top drummers in his field on par with Hal Blaine, Steve Gadd, and Jim Keltner!
Informative video. The mention of the piano in the song Layla made me think of the interview I saw with the woman who played the piano part and didn't get any credit. Sad story.
Great video! You're so spot on about the drumming on Only You Know And I Know. Those driving drums are what takes that song from good to Amazing! Cheers from Central California.
Truly great Video Mazzy Had no idea about his playing in all of these varied settings, particularly on the Mason Williams song classical Gas This was an amazing presentation!
I appreciate and enjoy these videos so much. I’m about your age - but thanks to my older sister experienced these recordings - and brings back my musical experiences. Had a copy of that Dave Mason ‘marble’ pressing, it was one of my favorites back then, and I have it on my listening list for this afternoon, along with Judy Collins and the first Derek of the Dominoes albums. Yes, whenever I saw Jim Gordon listed on the album credits I knew it would be special.
Thanks for the video & the link to the Drums & Demons playlist. I look forward to your interview with Selvin (I hope he goes into Gordon's quality of life...or lack thereof...while institutionalize.)
Will you please do a video sometime on Van Dyke Parks and his influence? I LOVE 'Clang of the Yankee Reaper' and essentially ALL of his stuff. Unique, eccentric, one of a kind, an acquired taste... but, like Mason Williams, what a studio arranger!! We.'ve exchanged some letters and he's a real sweetheart. How Van Dyke Paks literate are you, Mazzy?!
I remember that he is supposed to be drumming on Apache from incredible bongo band but no reel proof ( in an old documentary...) But his drumming on let it rain live is always crazy and made me feel it's him playin on Apache great video thanks
Three barely known drummers that played on a ton of iconic hits from the 50's to 70's: Gary Chester, Buddy Saltzman and Eddie Hoh. Chester wrote one of the most important drumming books, and big names took lessons from him. Some songs: Stand By Me, Locomotion, Season of the Witch, Daydream Believer, I'm a Believer. Hoh was also the live drummer for the Mama's and Papa's and is the drummer on Super Sessions - drugs destroyed his brilliant career in 1970, but he lived into his 60's. Saltzman played on Pretty Ballerina by the Left Banke and Laura Nyro's revolutionary 1968 album, Eli and the Thirteenth Confession.
I thought it was great how you praised Judy Collins "Who Knows Where The Time Goes". I cannot convince younger people how good some of her songs are. I like the album "In My Life", side 2 especially. You call it as you hear it, whether the music is hip or not.
@@jackwezesa1081 I’m actually unfamiliar with them! I just checked them out though and Batdorf and Rodney sound great!I should have included Aztec Two Step in my own modern folk music video.
A session drummer who could play drums. Hmmm. And a little bit of piano too. I've revisited Nilsson's Jump into the Fire. The bass beat intro, the snap of that snare drum, then the solo as coda. Not too shabby. Looking forward to hearing more about Jim Gordon. I hear his luggage went out the window.
I once heard an alternative Mason Williams version of Classical Gas, possibly on UA-cam, that I thought even better than the original version, Mazzy. Wish that too had received a release. Worth hunting down.
Whenever anyone mentions Sandy Denny, I not only think of her music, but of the period when she shared a London flat with two other (at the time) unknown artists: Paul Simon and Al Stewart. What fan of 60s/70s music wouldn’t love to been the proverbial fly on the wall in that apartment?
Hello Mazzy.I recently subscribed, I have been thoroughly enjoying your videos.I always thought Jim Gordon was an amazing drummer. I Need to dig out my Delaney & Bonnie records he played on.Take care. Cheers, Bruce
Jim Gordon was a great drummer in much the same way Charlie Watts was a great drummer - not showy, but absolutely integral to the rhythm section and to the feel and groove of every track he graced with his deft touch.
I can appreciate you are framing this with "he had a tragic life," but it was more tragic for some of the people who were close to him because of how unstable he was and his lack of empathy. After punching Rita Coolidge so hard he knocked her out, he then stole the piano part from Layla from her, which people praise him to high heaven for. Sorry, but I have zero respect for him. It's not the "music stupid" it's that character still matters for some of us. There is a great line from BB King who once commented that when he chooses a new musician for his band, "it's 20 percent the musician and 80 percent the man."
Of course it was horrible for his victims. Gordon had major psychological issues combined with drug issues. That and the drums someone dampened his head voices, but he did horrible acts. Still he was one of the greatest rock drummers and played on so many wonderful records. Records that so many people have enjoyed.
Is there any hook about Jim Gordon ? I'm a retired drummer from Sweden and ive been following Jim since the 60s knows his story but do you know any book about him ?
I wonder if it's coincidence that the drummer was the best dancer in The Beatles - - best coordinated, most uninhibited. Also least likely to sit still & meditate.
I have both “alone together” versions and I disagree. The original cloud swirl has more life and presence. Both sound good but the MCA sounds like a remaster. It does not have the organic quality of the original. iMHO
Either way this album deserves as much recognition as we can give it. One of the very small handful of records in my collection that refuses to lose that spark. Glad you highlighted it! Hope someone else will find it now.
Hey Mazzy, also around the period of the Heavy Vinyl Series MCA had the budget line "Coral" label and the excellent MCA Master Series LPs. Beautiful quiet pressings. Might be preaching to the choir as I believe you worked for them at one point. Thanks for all your input! Joe
@@jackwezesa1081 I'm sure you are not alone (pun intended!) . I think its cool for us to have different opinions. I would point out that this MCA is Kevin Gray's system some 20+ years ago. Nowhere near what it was when Music Matters was introduced or where it is now where KG get so much praise. I find the MCA clear, detailed, and sounds great. It just seems very rigid to me. Its been my experience that this happens with a lot of high quality remasters. The hardest thing to bring from the original tapes is the sense of space and organic easiness. While the MCA is really great, I don't hear the space and organic qualities i hear on the original. I would be happy to light one up with you and pour a deep bourbon to discuss in more detail and really get to the bottom of the issue.
When you talk about the Layla "coda", a hidden part of the story is the influence of Robert Stigwood, who managed Derek and the Dominos. My ex-partner was Stigwood's partner during that time, Robert Fitzpatrick. Jim Gordon flat out stole the coda music from his girlfriend Rita Coolidge and Stigwood took his share of the publishing and made sure that coda was tacked on the end of the song. Bobby, Eric and Carl didn't want to do it but Stigwood forced his hand. When Rita confronted Stigwood he said, "what are you gonna do, you're just a girl". Stigwood was a very bad guy. The stuff he did with Barry Gibb is unprintable.
Exactly. I just read about this in the book. We will probably discuss in another video.
It’s amazing how almost all these old entertainment biz guys were all scumbags. Harvey Weinstein is just the tip of the iceberg.
David Geffen, billionaire, is regarded as a saint, just because he DIDN’T rip off everyone, all the time. But why aren’t all his famous musician clients worth a billion, even with all their wealth put together ?
@@mazzysmusicIt’s amazing, in a bad way that is, what scumbags most of these music and movie moguls were. They ripped off the men, abused the women, and we all know what they did with the black artists. Harvey Weinstein was just the tip of the iceberg.
Why is it unprintable?
I highly doubt he "flat out" stole the coda. That story has been exaggerated to no end. Gordon wasn't some half-assed, hippie musician. Beyond drumming, he was an accomplished musician since he was a teen - he could read and write music. Read what you want on Blogs, those little Facebook posts or what Bobby Whitlock (keyboardist) says. While Whitlock appreciated Gordon’s talent immensely, he did NOT like Gordon personally (and his story doesn't even jive with hers). I’ll stick with what she wrote herself in her book, which is quite telling. Here it is:
*******************
Excerpted from Delta Lady: A Memoir by Rita Coolidge with Michael Walker.
Copyright (c) by Rita Coolidge. Reprinted by permission of Harper, an imprint of HarperCollins Publishers
“One afternoon in 1970, Jim Gordon came over to my house in Hollywood, sat down at the piano, and played for me a chord progression he’d just composed. Most people know Jim as one of L.A.’s top session drummers in the early ‘70s -- he played on everything from Glen Campbell’s “Wichita Lineman” to the Beach Boys’ Pet Sounds album -- but he was also a capable pianist, and because he was exposed to so many styles of music, he had a well-developed sense of melody and structure.
"The chords Jim played for me were in the key of C sharp and built to an eight-note refrain before the progression repeated. There was something haunting about it, especially when the bright major chords suddenly dipped to B-flat 7th for the refrain. It also seemed deeply familiar-like when you meet someone you’re immediately attracted to who seems at once both exotic and approachable.”
“I loved Jim’s progression, but at the moment that’s all it was -- a stunning riff, not a song. As we played with it, a second progression suddenly came to me, a countermelody in the key of G that “answered” and resolved the tension of Jim’s chords and built to a dramatic crescendo that bridged the song’s beginning and ending. I wrote lyrics that reflected the melody’s sense of fatalism and hope (“my darling believe me, don’t ever leave me, we’ve got a million years to show them that our love is real.”). Jim and I ended up calling it “Time (Don’t Let the World Get In Our Way)” and taped a demo. We played the song for Eric Clapton when we were in England touring with Delanie and Bonnie"
The live Derek & The Dominos album was incandescent; and still is. Clapton was never able to surpass that very high point. And Jim Gordon was right there, every second of it.
Great album. Best thing Clapton did. A pinnacle of blues-rock guitar playing.
I also loved Jim Gordon's drumming. He even played percussion on Pet Sounds. I normally don't care for drum solos too much, but I really liked his solo on Let It Rain on the live Derek and the Dominos album. His personal story is heartbreaking, but what a drummer!
During the famous argument between members of the Byrds during the recording of 'Notorious Byrds', Chris Hillman suggested getting Hal Blaine in, but they went to Jim Gordon instead, including for the slow version of 'Goin' Back'. His playing on the outro is superb. Nothing fancy but great feel and perfect for the song.
He plays great on that record.
Actually it's Mike Clarke, not Hillman. Clarke plays on 5 songs, Gordon plays on 3 songs, Hal Blaine is on 3, according to the studio files.
@@750drums Your list is the original eleven tracks on the album. There is an earlier version of 'Goin' Back' with Jim Gordon playing.
@@schmozzer Gordon plays on both versions of that song. Croz is also on the earlier one, and Gene Clark on the lp and 45 versions.
Finally "Give The Drummer Some!" Jim Gordon one of the best!
Derek & the Dominos In Concert - gotta be one of the most underrated rock live albums of all. Superb playing from everybody. How about Clapton's solo on "Bottle of Red Wine"? Killer.
I’ve never heard the live album
Jim & Carl really shine throughout this excellent live album.
I have had the vinyl since the 70s and the double cd for years.I’m sorry it bores me to sleep,literally.I have tried ,honest.
I have fond memories of 1970 listening to Dave Mason's Alone Together and Eric Clapton's solo album over and over . Both had Jim Gordon as the drummer. I enjoyed your observations and analysis. I just finished the book too.
Have loved Jim Gordon's playing for years. A hidden gem is his playing on David Gates solo album 'First'. Some knock out drumming on 'do you believe he's coming' and others
@@MrTahuna333Is that the album with “ Clouds” ? I think I have it . 73?
Derek and the Dominoes Layla and assorted Love Songs and George Harrison All Things Must Pass and Mad Dogs and Englishman were released that year as well. Jim was a very prolific studio musician that year.
Jim was not a stupid man ,he had many troubles as we know & the end of the story of his sad life as he began the downhill spiral into madness. Take that part out & take him for his talent . He played with everyone & was always hot as hell . One of Rocks best drummers hands down . I am a bit biased & still think his drumming with Clapton & Duane Allman & Delaney & Bonnie & Dave Mason , they didn't come much better in Rock . I have an original copy of Dave's Alone Together which does open up or fold out & according to Dave he used a Telecaster on most if not all this LP. He also stated they did the marble wax because it made the DJs play the whole LP as they couldn't find the separate tracks & no two albums were the same color scheme. He said it was the old spin painting we had as kids that went to the carnivals LOL .. Some very interesting thing being told by Bobby Whitlock on his channel about Jim & the Layla sessions. As awesome as Jim was then i can only imagine how good he would be now. Truly a sad case & any drummer would have to say we miss him & wish these bad things had not happened to him & we feel for his mother as well , Very sad. I'm not a drummer but a guitarist but without a good drummer we can't ROCK !!!
Thanks for sharing! Yes, Jim was fantastic, and deserves greater recognition. Unmistakable rolling beat. Need to get the Judy Collins vinyl now for my daughter (who is a singer)
Cool album choices...the thread of Jim Gordon! Regarding Dave Mason...an underrated guitarist if there ever was one. His song "Only You Know And I Know.." has one of the hardest acoustic rhythm guitar parts known to mankind. Sounds easy enough, but it's pure genius. Lots of artists have covered it, but only he knows (ha!) how to play that song. Regarding Gordon's feel on this track...the similarities to that and Motherless Children off of Clapton's 461 Ocean Blvd album are pretty uncanny....just sayin'. Keep up the great videos! You got me originally with the post about the early Steve Miller Band...for that alone you have my ultimate respect!
Thank you for highlighting one of the most amazing drummers. I likened his ability to drive a band to the great one, Buddy Rich.
Rolling Stone put out a great article about Jim's tragic life back in the mid 80's if I am remembering correctly. Look it up it was very well written
Traffic - Low Spark of High Healed Boys
Joe Cocker - Mad Dogs and the Englishman
Clapton said that Jim was his favorite drummer to play with
I lost my mind when I first heard 'Classical Gas' at age 10. That's when I learned how to 'air conduct'.
Wow, You are on fire with all the videos. We are lucky if We get more than one video from the other Vinyl Vloggers. Awesome Video!!!
Looking forward to your Jim Gordon video. When you showed the Nillson album it reminded me of a late wild man drummer local to me.. Roger Pope… he plays on one track of “Schmillson”. Was a lovely but crazy guy, used to chat with him at the bar. Had so many wild stories like why Elton John sacked him…doing an audition for Zappa etc.. He was a close friend of Keith Moon.
Thanks. I think the conversation e Joel Selvin went well. It will post later this morning.
Hey Mazzy. My Alone Together album has a cut out of Dave Mason’s hat and an extra fold . There is a punch out whole on the hat . My copy is noisy and pressed off center! I love the Nilsson album . The low bass on Jump into the fire is incredible! My original wasn’t Dynaflex. Good video ad usual .
Yeah he said it was Herbie Flowers' bass on Jump Into The Fire. Same dude who played the amazing bass (acoustic and electric double tracked) on Lou's Walk On The Wildside, I believe.
So well recorded. I was 16 yr old when they played several cuts of D&D on a FM album oriented radio station in El Paso, Texas. That was a
banner year for me as a student of music during a Renaissance period. Lucky me!
The more I watch your channel the more I realize that the breadth of my musical experience has been far too limited. Thanks Mazzy for helping to rectify some of that.
I know. Mizzy is a talking Wikipedia page!
Nice video talking about the late Jim Gordon! It’s a shame what happened to him as he had mental illness but he was probably one of the top drummers in his field on par with Hal Blaine, Steve Gadd, and Jim Keltner!
Informative video. The mention of the piano in the song Layla made me think of the interview I saw with the woman who played the piano part and didn't get any credit. Sad story.
Some wankering going on there. It seems.
Yeah. Rita Coolidge who was Gordon’s girlfriend She wrote it but Jim obeyed it for the record. But yes she got screwed on publishing.
@@mazzysmusic Someone said that Robert Stigwood was a nasty guy, is there a book about him? And the people he damaged?
Great video! You're so spot on about the drumming on Only You Know And I Know. Those driving drums are what takes that song from good to Amazing! Cheers from Central California.
Excellent video! I would LOVE you to make a video spotlighting the vast works of Jim Keltner in your collection!
Great idea!🥁🥁🥁
oh yes ! please do a Jim Keltner video !!!! with all the good works with Ry !@@mazzysmusic
Hi Mazzy - Thanks for sharing your musical knowledge and story telling. Your doing a great job.
Truly great Video Mazzy
Had no idea about his playing in all of these varied settings, particularly on the Mason Williams song classical Gas This was an amazing presentation!
Great video...surprised you didn't mention the Joe Cocker Mad Dogs & Englishmen record, another with Jim Gordon and Jim Keltner player together.
We will when discuss the book ✌🏼
The Trumpinator boblehead commercial greeted me into your video😅😆😆😆
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@@mazzysmusic And it was his voice doing the selling!😄
@@SDsailor7Trump 2024 🇺🇸 !!
Thanks for the look back. I surprised myself that I have all of those albums. I’m feeling happily old.
I think a lot of talented artists battle with their own demons.....It's part of what makes them great
Sometimes, but in this case it led to a very tragic ending.
@@mazzysmusic Having been diagnosed as schizophrenic it was never going to end well and add drugs to the mix well.....
What a great idea to do this!
I appreciate and enjoy these videos so much. I’m about your age - but thanks to my older sister experienced these recordings - and brings back my musical experiences. Had a copy of that Dave Mason ‘marble’ pressing, it was one of my favorites back then, and I have it on my listening list for this afternoon, along with Judy Collins and the first Derek of the Dominoes albums. Yes, whenever I saw Jim Gordon listed on the album credits I knew it would be special.
Mazzy is the 🐐 of the vinyl community! 😯 😯 😯 😯 😅😅😅😅😅
Thanks for the video & the link to the Drums & Demons playlist. I look forward to your interview with Selvin (I hope he goes into Gordon's quality of life...or lack thereof...while institutionalize.)
It’s a good playlist 🥁🥁🥁
Will you please do a video sometime on Van Dyke Parks and his influence? I LOVE 'Clang of the Yankee Reaper' and essentially ALL of his stuff. Unique, eccentric, one of a kind, an acquired taste... but, like Mason Williams, what a studio arranger!! We.'ve exchanged some letters and he's a real sweetheart. How Van Dyke Paks literate are you, Mazzy?!
I remember that he is supposed to be drumming on Apache from incredible bongo band but no reel proof ( in an old documentary...)
But his drumming on let it rain live is always crazy and made me feel it's him playin on Apache
great video thanks
Jim Gordon also played with Frank Zappa.
Apostrophe plus
You are so right about “Someday Soon.”
Three barely known drummers that played on a ton of iconic hits from the 50's to 70's: Gary Chester, Buddy Saltzman and Eddie Hoh. Chester wrote one of the most important drumming books, and big names took lessons from him. Some songs: Stand By Me, Locomotion, Season of the Witch, Daydream Believer, I'm a Believer. Hoh was also the live drummer for the Mama's and Papa's and is the drummer on Super Sessions - drugs destroyed his brilliant career in 1970, but he lived into his 60's. Saltzman played on Pretty Ballerina by the Left Banke and Laura Nyro's revolutionary 1968 album, Eli and the Thirteenth Confession.
I thought it was great how you praised Judy Collins "Who Knows Where The Time Goes". I cannot convince younger people how good some of her songs are. I like the album "In My Life", side 2 especially. You call it as you hear it, whether the music is hip or not.
Great album and song
Nice. Welcome to the Canteen may have been addressed in comments already
Carl Raydell, bro - Rattle, ha!
Another enjoyable video Mazzy, well done!
Jim Gordon also filled in for Michael Clarke on Notorious Byrd Brothers.
Yup
Just discovered Aztec Two Step. That'll calm your nerves.
Aztec Two Step are a must to see live! Great musicians!
@@JustFortheRecord66I freaking love them !
@@jackwezesa1081 awesome!
@@JustFortheRecord66 D o you remember Batdorf& Rodney ? The first album is so good! I figured I’d ask you considering the mention of Aztec !
@@jackwezesa1081 I’m actually unfamiliar with them! I just checked them out though and Batdorf and Rodney sound great!I should have included Aztec Two Step in my own modern folk music video.
I think the Big E (Buddy Emmons) played pedal steel guitar on Someday Soon, not Sneaky Pete. Both were great players.
A session drummer who could play drums. Hmmm. And a little bit of piano too. I've revisited Nilsson's Jump into the Fire. The bass beat intro, the snap of that snare drum, then the solo as coda. Not too shabby. Looking forward to hearing more about Jim Gordon. I hear his luggage went out the window.
Thank you for that Spotify list.
I once heard an alternative Mason Williams version of Classical Gas, possibly on UA-cam, that I thought even better than the original version, Mazzy. Wish that too had received a release. Worth hunting down.
Whenever anyone mentions Sandy Denny, I not only think of her music, but of the period when she shared a London flat with two other (at the time) unknown artists: Paul Simon and Al Stewart. What fan of 60s/70s music wouldn’t love to been the proverbial fly on the wall in that apartment?
What roommates ✌🏼
Hello Mazzy.I recently subscribed, I have been thoroughly enjoying your videos.I always thought Jim Gordon was an amazing drummer. I Need to dig out my Delaney & Bonnie records he played on.Take care.
Cheers,
Bruce
Thanks for the sub! Love D & B ✌🏼
Jim Gordon was a great drummer in much the same way Charlie Watts was a great drummer - not showy, but absolutely integral to the rhythm section and to the feel and groove of every track he graced with his deft touch.
Nilsson Schmilsson was one of the first albums I bought. I still love it. I don't think Ringo plays on it though. He guests on Son of Schmilsson.
Well done
Thank you ☕️
I ordered the Dave Mason. I have the marbled version VG. Discogs is down to 6 last I looked.
I can appreciate you are framing this with "he had a tragic life," but it was more tragic for some of the people who were close to him because of how unstable he was and his lack of empathy. After punching Rita Coolidge so hard he knocked her out, he then stole the piano part from Layla from her, which people praise him to high heaven for. Sorry, but I have zero respect for him. It's not the "music stupid" it's that character still matters for some of us. There is a great line from BB King who once commented that when he chooses a new musician for his band, "it's 20 percent the musician and 80 percent the man."
Of course it was horrible for his victims. Gordon had major psychological issues combined with drug issues. That and the drums someone dampened his head voices, but he did horrible acts. Still he was one of the greatest rock drummers and played on so many wonderful records. Records that so many people have enjoyed.
@@mazzysmusic I agree with you, he was a fantastic drummer, really gifted in that regards. And as you commented it was a very tragic situation.
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Is there any hook about Jim Gordon ? I'm a retired drummer from Sweden and ive been following Jim since the 60s knows his story but do you know any book about him ?
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I found that Mason Williams record at a thrift store for a buck
*I'm stupid and I like music.*
Can someone please post the link to the Spotify playlist Mazzy mentioned?
open.spotify.com/playlist/7aIHh3DwJ4coua93fbXSYs?si=d37c5090991b4579
I wonder if it's coincidence that the drummer was the best dancer in The Beatles - - best coordinated, most uninhibited. Also least likely to sit still & meditate.
Derek and the dominoes was a great band. Unfortunately they were all on dope and it couldn’t last. 😮
Yeah. Amazing they played so well
It’s Radle (pronounced Ray-dull, not Rad-ell), I’ve heard you miss pronounce it at least twice. Thanks for mentioning the great Carl Radle
Cool, thanks
Wasn’t Mike Post a member of the First Edition?
No, but he did produce their first couple of albums. ✌🏼🤠
@@mazzysmusic ahh…okay, that’s where I had seen his name then in relation to the First Edition.
Isn’t coconut his second biggest hit?
Everybody’s Talkin’ then One and Me and My Arrow did pretty well. Then Without You was huge. Jump in the Fire did ok and Coconut big ✌🏼
@@mazzysmusic I Guess The Lord Must Be In New York City , late 69 , minor hit .
As tragic as his ending was, I prefer to remember Jim Gordon not only for his drumming but also for his valiant fight for the citizens of Gotham City.
I have both “alone together” versions and I disagree. The original cloud swirl has more life and presence. Both sound good but the MCA sounds like a remaster. It does not have the organic quality of the original. iMHO
Must be system and room dependent as my experience is very different. 🥁
Either way this album deserves as much recognition as we can give it. One of the very small handful of records in my collection that refuses to lose that spark. Glad you highlighted it! Hope someone else will find it now.
@@buzzhughes2889 My 70 original is noisy and pressed off center on side 2 !!
Hey Mazzy, also around the period of the Heavy Vinyl Series MCA had the budget line "Coral" label and the excellent MCA Master Series LPs. Beautiful quiet pressings. Might be preaching to the choir as I believe you worked for them at one point. Thanks for all your input! Joe
@@jackwezesa1081 I'm sure you are not alone (pun intended!) . I think its cool for us to have different opinions. I would point out that this MCA is Kevin Gray's system some 20+ years ago. Nowhere near what it was when Music Matters was introduced or where it is now where KG get so much praise. I find the MCA clear, detailed, and sounds great. It just seems very rigid to me. Its been my experience that this happens with a lot of high quality remasters. The hardest thing to bring from the original tapes is the sense of space and organic easiness. While the MCA is really great, I don't hear the space and organic qualities i hear on the original. I would be happy to light one up with you and pour a deep bourbon to discuss in more detail and really get to the bottom of the issue.
I never really considered Jim Gordon a great drummer. I’ll relisten to some records he played on.
He was so good. Not always flashy by tight. Lonesome Fugitive. The Best Goes On. You’re So Vain. So much more. .