Just bought one of these yesterday from my local shop to replace my G17 as my CC. As much as I love my G17, it's not good for me to carry as it's just too bulky. I'll give it to my husband to carry for when he naturalizes next year. I'm super excited to shoot this one at the range and I know it'll be perfect for my CC needs. Really cool to see it operate up to 50 yards with such a short barrel.
I’ve had my Walther ppk/s .22 for 6500 rounds. I’ve found that it likes CCI mini mags target copper coated because they have a more consistent and accurate fill of propellant. It will jam 1% of these cartridges, and after 200 rounds will jam sometimes 2-3%. It needs to be well cleaned and lubricated at 400 rounds which is fairly easy to do. I had to replace the main recoil spring at 4500 rounds, bought from Walther Arms. I highly recommend this firearm if you think my observations are reasonable.
Walther has made some quality firearms for many years. Glad to see you are enjoying this special little gun. Nice shooting by the way. Love to hear that steel ring at the 50 yard line!
I had one a year ago. I got only 5 shots. I love it. But I didn’t think this little gun and 22lr caliber can effect shooting from 150 feet’s. But you showed that this gun capability to shoot from 50 yards to hit target. I will try like as you. Thanks. That’s why I love this gun more than before.
Hello, Thank you for a very informative presentation. I am a "newbie" at firearm ownership and ran with this model as a starter. I believe it will serve me well after viewing your recommendations. Cheers!
Your video made me want this gun , so i bought one . And it is fantastic with the custom walnut grips I put on . Shooting it tomorrow . Thanks for the awesome review.
At 1:28 you describe the safety as "frame mounted." It is a slide mounted safety. Thanks for including the chart with ammo comparison, very helpful. Thanks also for telling the trigger weight, my scale only goes up to 12 and I knew the double action pull was more but not how much more. Decent course of fire to demonstrate accuracy/range.
I purchased a PPK/S a few months ago. Yes, it is a fun to shoot pistol and looks good to boot! So far no malfunctions, although I did change the front sight blade to the lower one to bring the pattern up a bit using Remington and CCI and some really old Federal ammo.
Good presentation. I like Walther's, good quality. I gave all my five daughters the Walther P22. However my all time favorite 22 pistol is the "Sport-King" .22 manufactured by High Standard Mfg Corp. The machining tolerances on this gun are accurate to an incredible degree, there is absolutely no rattle. This gun is older than I am and I'm 68, unfortunatley they went out of business. Back to the subject, the fact that you can hit a steel plate at 50 yards is impressive.
I have two Sport Kings, both of them pre-WWII models. One has the barrel mounted on a rail, the other has a ball-like stud which pops down into the receiver. These little pistols shoot like rifles, and you couldn't trade me a semi-trailer full of Ruger Mk IV pistols for either one of mine! I just wish I could find more magazines for them.
I got a stainless .38 back in the late 80’s. A few years ago I got a bug to get a matching in the .22lr stainless. I love it and it’s so smooth shooting. I like shooting it better than the .38.
When you pull down on the trigger guard to take down the gun, the trigger guard moves over to the left so you don't have to hold the guard down while putting the slide on or off
@@upgraddeupgradde2364 Thank you for "manning up". My hand strength is pretty good ,especially for a man past 70. I still shoot .44 mag & a .460 S&W too [ when I can get ammo ].
You should give the new CCI Copper-22 ammo a try. It fires a 21 grain bullet, supposedly at 1,850 fps (from a rifle, I assume). From my PPK/S, this ammo clocks a good 1,650 fps according to my Beta Chrony. Moreover, I've seen what this ammo can do to a squirrel. A shoulder shot nearly decapitated the poor critter. Ruined a lot of good meat for the frying pan. The only thing that kept the squirrel's head attached was the skin and fur at the front of its throat. If this ammo will do that to a 3-4 pound squirrel, then I have no qualms about carrying mine for self-defense (and I'm a long time .45 Cooperite)! Right out of the box, no cleaning, etc., I took it to the range determined to see how long it would take to jam. I remember the disastrous little junkers that were made during the Walther/Smith & Wesson "partnership." Those guns were junk. It took two days, and I ran through more than 2,600 rounds of every kind of rimfire ammo you can think of, and it didn't malfunction a single time! So I'm doubling-down on it being a great concealment gun for when I can't carry a .45 or my Browning Hi Power. I got mine from Palmetto (the AR-15 people) for $229.99 (November, 2019). Spare mags are a nightmare to find in stock anywhere, but I've manage to snag a couple for $35 each, plus tax and shipping. This is one great little pistol. And you're a helluva good shot! I can nail six of those plates at 50 feet in 3.5 seconds, but I don't think my eyesight would allow me to hit consistently at more than 25 yards.
Just bought one today. Can't find the ammo at the store and .22 is going up in price. From vids I've watched, it's very finicky on ammo and that furthers my dilemma.
I don't have this pistol, I shoot an M&P 22. I have always used CCI, Federal Punch or Armscor ammo and have only had 1 failure to eject after around 800 rounds. These are the only kinds of ammo I use and I think it makes a huge difference
I got one about a year ago. Yes, it is VERY finicky on ammo. It absolutely, completely, and totally refuses to cycle Armscor ammo. I've had problems with other less-than-high quality ammo as well. It's done well with Norma "tactical" ammo, CCI, and Remington......but still not totally reliable. It definitely has to be clean as well. I'm still glad I got it though.
Saw this review and this yr..Kentucky Gun Co, black Friday sale had this for $100 less then retail..($229), had to buy one. Great review and good little gun
GREAT VIDEO!!! My Favorite Gun is a .22 I cut my teeth on a H&R .22 Snubby Had A Colt Diamond Back when I was a Rookie in CHICAGO and Traded it for a S&W 357 Model 66. Didn't have a whole Lot of money back then. That is one I have always been Regretting ever since. I do have a 1946 High Standard HD Military .22 a Beretta 21A and A Browning Challenger II BUT RECENTLY a Gun Shop I visited has A Walther .22 made in Germany 🇩🇪 The Price is $400 so I have been a Bit Hesitant 😕 After Seeing YOUR Video I think YOU just made a SALE for The Nice Gentleman that sees me coming in to check on that Walther without taking it home .
I'm all for supporting your local dealer, but that price is a bit high for this pistol now. Prices have really come down and make it even more desirable. You may want to shop around a bit locally before taking the plunge. Thanks for the positive comment.
MANY THANKS I Really APPRECIATE YOU getting back to me with YOUR Point of View. Now Retired i Don't have any extra money for another Gun. But it is a Pistol made in Germany. NO Other Gun Shop I have been to Has one from Germany. That's the ONLY Reason why I would Make the Plunge.
Sorry, I just checked your blog and you list the slide and frame as being made from zinc die cast. I am not a metallurgist but that does not sound like very strong, durable material. ???
@Clawbytes People can dog a .25 ACP all day. In the end John M. Browning designed it specifically for small pocket pistols. It always goes bang and is very very reliable. With good Hornady XTP ammo it is on par with a .380 ACP FMJ round nose. Put 8+1 in a vintage discontinued Beretta 950BS Jetfire, and you have THE KING right there!
@@ediesmith1474 I have both 950BS Jetfires in .25 ACP and 21A Bobcats in .22 LR. I like them both but trust the .25 ACPs a little more. Some of the .22 LR reliability is increased by using CCI Mini-Mags. Mine shoot everything.....it's misfires that cause the problems. Just shot my 21A Bobcat again the other night. Even with cheap bulk pack Remington Thunderbolts and Federal 550 it shoots fine. Once in awhile one won't fire even with a struck rim. That seldom if ever happens with CCI ammo.
The one thing that bothers me about the Umarex PPK/S from Fort Smith is the trigger guard not locking like an older PPK. Also, the slide lock on mag eject is a bit irritable, but to my knowledge, that's part of the original PPK too as it doesn't have a slide release lever
Hi, I’m watching a lot of reviews on this beautiful gun, but I noticed everyone doing a review on the 380acp the beaver tail is biting them or something. Are you also experiencing this?
A ppk with a small suppressor like the bitty bower is both concealable and quiet. You have no idea what you’re talking about when you say it’s not a tool for assassins when it literally is. The cia, mossad, mi6, kgb and many other covert operatives use .22s with suppressors.
Thanks for a good video. I am interested in this Walther and I have some questions. After reading various reviews and descriptions and even the Walther web site it is not clear to me what materials are use to make this pistol. I refer to both the frame and slide. Is it steel, alloy, zinc alloy, pot metal?? There seem to be many accounts and I am not sure what the deal is. Do you know the answer? Thanks.
Question. I have a bunch of the bulk lead non jacketed 22 ammo and was debating buying a revolver to shoot it with. Would this ppk be able to shoot it w/o too many issues? I always expect some issue here n there due to the ammo itself but dont want to spend my time clearing jams instead of shooting. What do suggest?
22LR ammo with lead bullets will have a lubrication on the bullets. They should run fine in your semi-auto. No need to buy a revolver unless you want to.
I have no experience with the GSG 1911 22LR. My advice, since you asked, is to buy BOTH. Just kidding....purchase the one that you feel with provide you with the most fun and enjoyment. The differences are so great between your two choices, it's really going to be a decision based on your personal preference.
Haha I probably will end up buying both down the line but thanks for your input, I might just go with the Walther after watching your review honestly, thanks!
I had a lot of frustrations with it as well. Armscor, it will not cycle in mine no matter what. It appears to need higher velocity, quality ammo to cycle reasonably reliably.
Ammo Man I have one of the newer Umarex Fort Smith, AR ones and CCI Standards often will not function properly. Usually a fail to eject from the shell locking in the port. It seems to function best with HV ammo, and even then, mine absolutely refuses Federal HV match. It will feed Winchester Super-X/Browning ammo, but once in a while a spent case gets stuck in the chamber. They're finicky pistols... I have had almost 400 rounds through mine, and those issues haven't been solved. I speculate the recoil spring is just a touch too heavy
I am unsure about how to tell if it’s Umarex or Walther and what the difference is. He mentioned in the video that it was made in Germany and imported by Walther in Fort Smith, AK. Are all the ones that are stamped Fort Smith Umarex? Mine has been pretty reliable even with Subsonic with only occasional double feeds. Is there a way to tell if it’s Umarex?
Yo Bro - Good shooting. I assume those are 10 in steel plates. We can't shoot steel at my club, only paper which is really boring. I'm waiting for any kind of descent weather to get out there. My CZ 83 has a fixed barrel just like the PPK. I'ts supposed to increase accuracy.
Great video! I bought the ppk/s off of a friend and the safety is really difficult to put into fire mode. I have to push really hard with both thumbs for it to move. I took the slide off and oiled the safety mechanism, but no luck. Any advice?
Best thing to do is call Walther. What you are describing is not normal and should be checked out by the manufacturer. PITA, but Walthers are covered by their LEGENDARY LIMITED LIFETIME WARRANTY
I can't, but perhaps it's worth your time to have a conversation with these folks about it. Contact Frontier Arms, the exclusive Australian distributor for Walther, Thompson/Center, Hammerli, Umarex, Knobloch, Walther Pro, Alpina Sport and Elite Force, via the following options: Phone: 08 8373 2855 Fax: 08 8373 2930 Email: mail@frontierarms.com.au Post: GPO Box 2317, Adelaide SA 5001
I think I do also. A buddy of mine bought the PPK and 380 and it’s no fun to shoot. The sides are horrible and the web of your hand takes a beating. The bersa thunder 22 has a readily available light weight spring for standard velocity ammo. I’m a big Sig and CZ Guy. Got a 22 Kadet kit for my SP01 and it eats anything, including subsonic. Instead of the thunder 380, I purchased a Sig 238 for all the small people in my life. I’m looking at a 1911 22LR as a cheaper alternative with a similar manual of arms. I still like the way the Walther looks.
I like very much the look of the ppk but like most 22 semiautos you have to try different brands until you get the one for that gun,on the other hand today's new 22 rugegs can take most brands whitout problem.
500 rounds of thunderbolt with no cleaning and only one stove pipe on my mk 4. I have the stater kit with the long pencil barrel. All it does is hit the target no matter who's holding it.
Check out different modifications available. The gun itself though the real German made ppks does not disappoint. I love mine it's the best 22Lr handgun availible. (In my opinion of course).
Why anyone would spend 200-300 bucks on this zinc pistol when the Beretta 21A is available for nearly the same price, and is made of the materials a gun should be made of is beyond me. As a collector item I suppose it makes sense.
You say punching paper gets very boring. I find the opposite true with ringing steel. It's no real feat to hit a 6" or 8"+ steel plate over and over again. Some rounds barely nick the far leading edge and still ring and move it. It's much more serious and sophisticated to put groups on paper where they can be visually seen afterwards and measured. How's your marksmanship skills? These days it pretty much sucks from most shooters. They can ring steel all day long but they can't "print" on paper worth a damn! Truths!! John
Sigh...no one reads anymore. Video description includes a link to a written review with paper target accuracy results with 7 different brands/varieties of ammunition.
Excellent! Every YT gun reviewer should study this one as a model. Everything you need to know, including rapid-fire close range, up to 50 yards, with targets shown. I'm tired so tired of these jerk-off vids -- some fool shooting with no picture of the target, or no distance info.
The double action trigger pull is 17 1/2 pounds? Are you kidding me? Why? I have a Bersa Thunder which is a knock off of the Walther, and it's far less than that. A 22 is lethal, but most of the time, not right away. Shot placement is more crucial with a 22 and a 17 1/2 pound trigger pull doesn't contribute to shot placement.
I very much did. I am almost totally uninformed on Walther's rimfire offerings other than their existence.I'm already a 9mm convert to Walther (PPS, PPQ), but now I have a whole new caliber to check out. Actually seeing a detailed review with offhand hits at 50 yds is quite a revelation. Thanks.
+Myanameis Beestingz I also have Pocket Guns and Gear channel. I'll be doing a Walther CCP and PPQ M2 5" 9mm review on that site later this year. Overlapping with the PPQ 9mm review is a PPQ 22LR review that will probably end up on The Rimfire Channel. I'm not sure how they will all fit together, but it should be interesting.
Awesome! I'll subscribe to the lot of 'em. I have been perpetually fascinated with the CCP since I handled it at the shop. Fit my hand perfectly. It has suffered with some manufacturing, quality control and most problematically, design issues, but according to folks at the Walther forums, those seem to be improving on later units. I hope the model survives, it is a cool little pistol.
O It's NOT available in a SILVER finish. It IS available in a STAINLESS STEEL finish. HUGE difference! Some other gunsb that may appear 2 B SILVER can B a NICKLE finish. I do not know of any gun with a SILVER finish. It would cost $1000's of $$$!
Thanks, but can't compete with The Masters Hickock45 and 22Plinkster. Appreciate both for the their skills and inspiration to try things at greater distances. Very rewarding when the hits come.
Best 22 on the market PERIOD!!!
Have you ever shot a Ruger MKIV, preferably their Hunter model?
@@rhsking05 mkiv hunter is 1000$ and has a 6" barrel . This walther is $300 and tiny . Apples to oranges
Coolest looking maybe but not even close to being the best lol.
Considering the length of the barrel that was some very impressive shooting. Excellent and informative video, thank you.
Great review. I've carried a .380 PPk and .22 TPH for many years and love my Walthers. The PPk/s in .22 looks like fun.
Just bought one of these yesterday from my local shop to replace my G17 as my CC. As much as I love my G17, it's not good for me to carry as it's just too bulky. I'll give it to my husband to carry for when he naturalizes next year. I'm super excited to shoot this one at the range and I know it'll be perfect for my CC needs. Really cool to see it operate up to 50 yards with such a short barrel.
Smfh
I’ve had my Walther ppk/s .22 for 6500 rounds. I’ve found that it likes CCI mini mags target copper coated because they have a more consistent and accurate fill of propellant. It will jam 1% of these cartridges, and after 200 rounds will jam sometimes 2-3%. It needs to be well cleaned and lubricated at 400 rounds which is fairly easy to do. I had to replace the main recoil spring at 4500 rounds, bought from Walther Arms. I highly recommend this firearm if you think my observations are reasonable.
Walther has made some quality firearms for many years. Glad to see you are enjoying this special little gun. Nice shooting by the way. Love to hear that steel ring at the 50 yard line!
This sir is an excellent review of a pistol. Thank you very much. I'm going to buy one very soon.
Great review. This has helped me make a decision to buy this gun. Thank you for your efforts
Great review! Not a lot of people nowadays doing such a nice scientific study. Great job and I really enjoyed watching it.
I had one a year ago. I got only 5 shots. I love it. But I didn’t think this little gun and 22lr caliber can effect shooting from 150 feet’s. But you showed that this gun capability to shoot from 50 yards to hit target. I will try like as you. Thanks. That’s why I love this gun more than before.
Hello,
Thank you for a very informative presentation.
I am a "newbie" at firearm ownership and ran with this model as a starter.
I believe it will serve me well after viewing your recommendations.
Cheers!
Your video made me want this gun , so i bought one . And it is fantastic with the custom walnut grips I put on . Shooting it tomorrow . Thanks for the awesome review.
Great...You can't go wrong with a classic German made Walther... I want a pair !
At 1:28 you describe the safety as "frame mounted." It is a slide mounted safety. Thanks for including the chart with ammo comparison, very helpful. Thanks also for telling the trigger weight, my scale only goes up to 12 and I knew the double action pull was more but not how much more. Decent course of fire to demonstrate accuracy/range.
Yeah, sometimes my mouth gets ahead of my brain. I'd rather make a mistake here and there than read off a cheat sheet.
I purchased a PPK/S a few months ago. Yes, it is a fun to shoot pistol and looks good to boot! So far no malfunctions, although I did change the front sight blade to the lower one to bring the pattern up a bit using Remington and CCI and some really old Federal ammo.
Good presentation. I like Walther's, good quality. I gave all my five daughters the Walther P22. However my all time favorite 22 pistol is the "Sport-King" .22 manufactured by High Standard Mfg Corp. The machining tolerances on this gun are accurate to an incredible degree, there is absolutely no rattle. This gun is older than I am and I'm 68, unfortunatley they went out of business. Back to the subject, the fact that you can hit a steel plate at 50 yards is impressive.
I have two Sport Kings, both of them pre-WWII models. One has the barrel mounted on a rail, the other has a ball-like stud which pops down into the receiver. These little pistols shoot like rifles, and you couldn't trade me a semi-trailer full of Ruger Mk IV pistols for either one of mine! I just wish I could find more magazines for them.
Great shooting! Thanks for sharing this! Definitely on my Christmas list.
I got a stainless .38 back in the late 80’s. A few years ago I got a bug to get a matching in the .22lr stainless. I love it and it’s so smooth shooting. I like shooting it better than the .38.
Excuse me .380.
When you pull down on the trigger guard to take down the gun, the trigger guard moves over to the left so you don't have to hold the guard down while putting the slide on or off
My double action trigger pull is off the scale as to HEAVY !
Need to increase your hand strength sweet heart.
I apologize
I purchased a PPK/S 22LR and the double action is waaay to hard very very heavy
@@upgraddeupgradde2364 Thank you for "manning up".
My hand strength is pretty good ,especially for a man past 70.
I still shoot .44 mag & a .460 S&W too [ when I can get ammo ].
...well done video...I like the way you did dual screen shots to show certain things...thank you...
Thanks, that was a fun review!
+Tommy505Pinto It was fun. Thanks for watching.
You should give the new CCI Copper-22 ammo a try. It fires a 21 grain bullet, supposedly at 1,850 fps (from a rifle, I assume). From my PPK/S, this ammo clocks a good 1,650 fps according to my Beta Chrony. Moreover, I've seen what this ammo can do to a squirrel. A shoulder shot nearly decapitated the poor critter. Ruined a lot of good meat for the frying pan. The only thing that kept the squirrel's head attached was the skin and fur at the front of its throat. If this ammo will do that to a 3-4 pound squirrel, then I have no qualms about carrying mine for self-defense (and I'm a long time .45 Cooperite)!
Right out of the box, no cleaning, etc., I took it to the range determined to see how long it would take to jam. I remember the disastrous little junkers that were made during the Walther/Smith & Wesson "partnership." Those guns were junk. It took two days, and I ran through more than 2,600 rounds of every kind of rimfire ammo you can think of, and it didn't malfunction a single time! So I'm doubling-down on it being a great concealment gun for when I can't carry a .45 or my Browning Hi Power.
I got mine from Palmetto (the AR-15 people) for $229.99 (November, 2019). Spare mags are a nightmare to find in stock anywhere, but I've manage to snag a couple for $35 each, plus tax and shipping.
This is one great little pistol. And you're a helluva good shot! I can nail six of those plates at 50 feet in 3.5 seconds, but I don't think my eyesight would allow me to hit consistently at more than 25 yards.
I know this is older but how stiff is the magazine as far as loading it..thanks
Jam - o - matic in my book. Purchased mine brand new. 12 different brands of ammo used
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Only use CCI Mini Mags Copper Coated, all other ammo will cause jams. Did you use CCI Mini Mags?
Just bought one today. Can't find the ammo at the store and .22 is going up in price. From vids I've watched, it's very finicky on ammo and that furthers my dilemma.
I don't have this pistol, I shoot an M&P 22. I have always used CCI, Federal Punch or Armscor ammo and have only had 1 failure to eject after around 800 rounds. These are the only kinds of ammo I use and I think it makes a huge difference
I got one about a year ago. Yes, it is VERY finicky on ammo. It absolutely, completely, and totally refuses to cycle Armscor ammo. I've had problems with other less-than-high quality ammo as well. It's done well with Norma "tactical" ammo, CCI, and Remington......but still not totally reliable. It definitely has to be clean as well. I'm still glad I got it though.
Good review and good shootin', thanks!
Saw this review and this yr..Kentucky Gun Co, black Friday sale had this for $100 less then retail..($229), had to buy one. Great review and good little gun
Great review, eying the ppk .22 as a suppressor host
Great video! Good job out to 50 yds! Excellent!
How much coffee did you have before filming this?
GREAT VIDEO!!!
My Favorite Gun is a .22
I cut my teeth on a H&R .22 Snubby Had A Colt Diamond Back when I was a Rookie in CHICAGO and Traded it for a S&W 357 Model 66. Didn't have a whole Lot of money back then. That is one I have always been Regretting ever since. I do have a 1946 High Standard HD Military .22 a Beretta 21A and A Browning Challenger II
BUT RECENTLY a Gun Shop I visited has A Walther .22 made in Germany 🇩🇪 The Price is $400 so I have been a Bit Hesitant 😕 After Seeing YOUR Video I think YOU just made a SALE for The Nice Gentleman that sees me coming in to check on that Walther without taking it home .
I'm all for supporting your local dealer, but that price is a bit high for this pistol now. Prices have really come down and make it even more desirable. You may want to shop around a bit locally before taking the plunge. Thanks for the positive comment.
MANY THANKS
I Really APPRECIATE YOU getting back to me with YOUR
Point of View. Now Retired i
Don't have any extra money for another Gun. But it is a
Pistol made in Germany. NO
Other Gun Shop I have been to
Has one from Germany. That's the ONLY Reason why I would
Make the Plunge.
Sorry, I just checked your blog and you list the slide and frame as being made from zinc die cast. I am not a metallurgist but that does not sound like very strong, durable material. ???
Can not wait to get my hands on one of these
Man I wish .22 lr was a center fire round.
WTF?
@Clawbytes
People can dog a .25 ACP all day. In the end John M. Browning designed it specifically for small pocket pistols. It always goes bang and is very very reliable. With good Hornady XTP ammo it is on par with a .380 ACP FMJ round nose.
Put 8+1 in a vintage discontinued Beretta 950BS Jetfire, and you have THE KING right there!
By the way....THIS is the original James Bond 007 pistol as described in the books!
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beretta_950
@@JohnDoeEagle1 Paul Harrell says .22 LR and .25 ACP have same effectiveness. .22 LR much cheaper and available.
@@ediesmith1474
I have both 950BS Jetfires in .25 ACP and 21A Bobcats in .22 LR.
I like them both but trust the .25 ACPs a little more. Some of the .22 LR reliability is increased by using CCI Mini-Mags.
Mine shoot everything.....it's misfires that cause the problems. Just shot my 21A Bobcat again the other night. Even with cheap bulk pack Remington Thunderbolts and Federal 550 it shoots fine. Once in awhile one won't fire even with a struck rim. That seldom if ever happens with CCI ammo.
I like the 22LR feature because I don't have to worry about reloading. How does it compare to the Bersa Thunder 380+?
The one thing that bothers me about the Umarex PPK/S from Fort Smith is the trigger guard not locking like an older PPK. Also, the slide lock on mag eject is a bit irritable, but to my knowledge, that's part of the original PPK too as it doesn't have a slide release lever
Great review. Great shooting.
Hi, I’m watching a lot of reviews on this beautiful gun, but I noticed everyone doing a review on the 380acp the beaver tail is biting them or something. Are you also experiencing this?
Hey! Look! It's Mr. Pocket Guns & Gear.
You switched channel names on me.
Glad I found you!
How well do you think that black finish will wear?
do you think this can be pocket carried?
Is it blued? It looks to be more of a mat finish.
My government thinks a “noise suppressing device” will turn someone into a Hollywood assassin...
Well.. with a walther ppk and a noise suppressing device is hard not to feel like James Bond though lol
A ppk with a small suppressor like the bitty bower is both concealable and quiet. You have no idea what you’re talking about when you say it’s not a tool for assassins when it literally is. The cia, mossad, mi6, kgb and many other covert operatives use .22s with suppressors.
I need to pick one of these up. $249 is nothing for a fun little plinker
Can you put a threaded adapter on it
Yes you can.
Thanks for a good video. I am interested in this Walther and I have some questions. After reading various reviews and descriptions and even the Walther web site it is not clear to me what materials are use to make this pistol. I refer to both the frame and slide. Is it steel, alloy, zinc alloy, pot metal?? There seem to be many accounts and I am not sure what the deal is. Do you know the answer? Thanks.
Question. I have a bunch of the bulk lead non jacketed 22 ammo and was debating buying a revolver to shoot it with. Would this ppk be able to shoot it w/o too many issues? I always expect some issue here n there due to the ammo itself but dont want to spend my time clearing jams instead of shooting. What do suggest?
22LR ammo with lead bullets will have a lubrication on the bullets. They should run fine in your semi-auto. No need to buy a revolver unless you want to.
I pick up one and the Trigger is VERY HARD to PULL. Do you think the gun has to go back?
Nope. That's the nature of the beast. Factory spec sheet shows 17.5 lbs for the double-action trigger pull weight. 6.1 lbs for single action.
Bough one about a month ago love it I think 🤔 for myself to me I made a good choice
Is it is painful to shoot as a 380 version? Does it run with standard velocity ammo?
No it isn't. 6:12 has some different ammo loads tested in the pistol. Two are standard velocity loads.
I bought one of these three years ago and still haven't taken it out of the plastic case...
You should. Mine sat for a year or so before finally getting it out to the range. So much fun to shoot.
Would you recommend getting this or a gsg .22 1911? They would be for plinking; leaning towards the 1911 but I'm always biased for a ppk/s.
I have no experience with the GSG 1911 22LR. My advice, since you asked, is to buy BOTH. Just kidding....purchase the one that you feel with provide you with the most fun and enjoyment. The differences are so great between your two choices, it's really going to be a decision based on your personal preference.
Haha I probably will end up buying both down the line but thanks for your input, I might just go with the Walther after watching your review honestly, thanks!
The Federal Ammo I was given for it jams all the time ugh
I had a lot of frustrations with it as well. Armscor, it will not cycle in mine no matter what. It appears to need higher velocity, quality ammo to cycle reasonably reliably.
I enjoyed the video. Well done. Cheers!
You should get great accuracy if using CCI "Standard Velocity" target ammo.
Ammo Man I have one of the newer Umarex Fort Smith, AR ones and CCI Standards often will not function properly. Usually a fail to eject from the shell locking in the port. It seems to function best with HV ammo, and even then, mine absolutely refuses Federal HV match. It will feed Winchester Super-X/Browning ammo, but once in a while a spent case gets stuck in the chamber. They're finicky pistols... I have had almost 400 rounds through mine, and those issues haven't been solved. I speculate the recoil spring is just a touch too heavy
I am unsure about how to tell if it’s Umarex or Walther and what the difference is. He mentioned in the video that it was made in Germany and imported by Walther in Fort Smith, AK. Are all the ones that are stamped Fort Smith Umarex? Mine has been pretty reliable even with Subsonic with only occasional double feeds. Is there a way to tell if it’s Umarex?
Excellent explanation
I have an old Walther 22 long rifle how do I find out the date
Search Google for "how old is my Walther ppk". Then use your serial number to determine the year it was manufactured
Yo Bro - Good shooting. I assume those are 10 in steel plates. We can't shoot steel at my club, only paper which is really boring. I'm waiting for any kind of descent weather to get out there. My CZ 83 has a fixed barrel just like the PPK. I'ts supposed to increase accuracy.
+Mark Firth Thanks Mark. They are supposed to be ten inch plates, but they are a little smaller for some reason. About 9.75".
Nice review!
Great video! I bought the ppk/s off of a friend and the safety is really difficult to put into fire mode. I have to push really hard with both thumbs for it to move. I took the slide off and oiled the safety mechanism, but no luck. Any advice?
Best thing to do is call Walther. What you are describing is not normal and should be checked out by the manufacturer. PITA, but Walthers are covered by their LEGENDARY LIMITED LIFETIME WARRANTY
PocketGunsandGear Thank you!! New to Walther so did not know that.
Yeah I have a question. Can you get me one of those to Australia ?
I can't, but perhaps it's worth your time to have a conversation with these folks about it.
Contact Frontier Arms, the exclusive Australian distributor for Walther, Thompson/Center, Hammerli, Umarex, Knobloch, Walther Pro, Alpina Sport and Elite Force, via the following options:
Phone: 08 8373 2855
Fax: 08 8373 2930
Email: mail@frontierarms.com.au
Post: GPO Box 2317, Adelaide SA 5001
Great review.
Is that a Remora holster you had in your pocket at the start of the video?
Yes it was a Remora holster. Good eye.
Excellent review.
Is this ppks as a 22 good for protection?
Better than a knife
wow, such a nice review.
Great video 👍🏾🔥
Thanks for sharing - what kind of holster are you using please?
It's a Remora holster.
Compared to the p22?
Good video, worth watching.
I prefer the Bersa Thunder 22
I think I do also. A buddy of mine bought the PPK and 380 and it’s no fun to shoot. The sides are horrible and the web of your hand takes a beating. The bersa thunder 22 has a readily available light weight spring for standard velocity ammo.
I’m a big Sig and CZ Guy. Got a 22 Kadet kit for my SP01 and it eats anything, including subsonic. Instead of the thunder 380, I purchased a Sig 238 for all the small people in my life. I’m looking at a 1911 22LR as a cheaper alternative with a similar manual of arms. I still like the way the Walther looks.
I got mine 2 weeks ago academy! I got an extra mag can’t wait to shoot it
I like very much the look of the ppk but like most 22 semiautos you have to try different brands until you get the one for that gun,on the other hand today's new 22 rugegs can take most brands whitout problem.
500 rounds of thunderbolt with no cleaning and only one stove pipe on my mk 4. I have the stater kit with the long pencil barrel. All it does is hit the target no matter who's holding it.
I want a mouse gun in 22LR like this as a back up gun. 😁
I am really interested to have one but it is not available in my country (Philippines) can anyone help me to acquire one please?
How to get the weapon in India
with rupees? 🤷♂
@A G Original ppk New waltherWeapon not available in India
Great shooting.
Good video. I'm trying to find a PPK/S 22LR in nickel. Seems impossible.
Thanks. Don't know if it's an option for you, but our local Cabela's always seems to have one available.
I also looked for silver but decided to just buy a black one. I put some dark rosewood grips on mine right after buying it and I am more than happy.
Couldn't find at many different Cabelas but maybe different handles would be a nice twist.
Check out different modifications available. The gun itself though the real German made ppks does not disappoint. I love mine it's the best 22Lr handgun availible. (In my opinion of course).
aqui no brasil não existe uma maravilha dessas, em calibre 22 lr,,,
I can tell he was pretty nervous from his hands shaking. Viewers don't bite lol
Yea but he did good.
***** Ja he did pretty well besides the hands shaking. Regardless, the PPK speaks for itself.
Dang did werewolf just spit that gun?
Why anyone would spend 200-300 bucks on this zinc pistol when the Beretta 21A is available for nearly the same price, and is made of the materials a gun should be made of is beyond me. As a collector item I suppose it makes sense.
That was some fucking sick shooting my friend
Next time, please wear light color jacket so that there is better contract between the black gun and background. Otherwise the video is good!
Your a good shooter my friend !
Damn that shit shot far for a little gun I'm going to get one
Kevin Thorn 22lr cant go over a mile fyi
Great vid. New sub
17.5lbs DA pull 🤯 that alone is enough to prevent me from getting one tbh. I get it’s a rimfire but That’s just ridiculous smh.
You say punching paper gets very boring. I find the opposite true with ringing steel. It's no real feat to hit a 6" or 8"+ steel plate over and over again. Some rounds barely nick the far leading edge and still ring and move it.
It's much more serious and sophisticated to put groups on paper where they can be visually seen afterwards and measured. How's your marksmanship skills? These days it pretty much sucks from most shooters. They can ring steel all day long but they can't "print" on paper worth a damn!
Truths!!
John
Sigh...no one reads anymore. Video description includes a link to a written review with paper target accuracy results with 7 different brands/varieties of ammunition.
....I prefer paper targets so I can analyze my accuracy AND I HATE the damn ringing of steel targets...hurts my ears even with hearing protection...
Excellent! Every YT gun reviewer should study this one as a model. Everything you need to know, including rapid-fire close range, up to 50 yards, with targets shown. I'm tired so tired of these jerk-off vids -- some fool shooting with no picture of the target, or no distance info.
Didnt look too cold not why you were wearing your sweater.
The double action trigger pull is 17 1/2 pounds? Are you kidding me? Why? I have a Bersa Thunder which is a knock off of the Walther, and it's far less than that. A 22 is lethal, but most of the time, not right away. Shot placement is more crucial with a 22 and a 17 1/2 pound trigger pull doesn't contribute to shot placement.
Nice shooting!
+Myanameis Beestingz Glad you enjoyed the video.
I very much did. I am almost totally uninformed on Walther's rimfire offerings other than their existence.I'm already a 9mm convert to Walther (PPS, PPQ), but now I have a whole new caliber to check out. Actually seeing a detailed review with offhand hits at 50 yds is quite a revelation. Thanks.
+Myanameis Beestingz I also have Pocket Guns and Gear channel. I'll be doing a Walther CCP and PPQ M2 5" 9mm review on that site later this year. Overlapping with the PPQ 9mm review is a PPQ 22LR review that will probably end up on The Rimfire Channel. I'm not sure how they will all fit together, but it should be interesting.
Awesome! I'll subscribe to the lot of 'em. I have been perpetually fascinated with the CCP since I handled it at the shop. Fit my hand perfectly. It has suffered with some manufacturing, quality control and most problematically, design issues, but according to folks at the Walther forums, those seem to be improving on later units. I hope the model survives, it is a cool little pistol.
Great video! How realistic is the 22lr with self defense compared to the .380 version, realistically..
Impressive at 50 yards!
nice to practice with but not for selfe defense as the rim fire is not reliable.
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It's NOT available in a SILVER finish. It IS available in a STAINLESS STEEL finish. HUGE difference! Some other gunsb that may appear 2 B SILVER can B a NICKLE finish. I do not know of any gun with a SILVER finish. It would cost $1000's of $$$!
Nice Video.. This is my next gun..
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Some good shooting. You're going to give Hickock45 a run for his money.
Thanks, but can't compete with The Masters Hickock45 and 22Plinkster. Appreciate both for the their skills and inspiration to try things at greater distances. Very rewarding when the hits come.
I WOULD LOVE TO HOBBIED PRACTICAL WHTI THIS