I’m Japanese and the interpreter absolutely MISinteroreted Shohei’s statement. It was interpreted as “I was able to talk to the fan” but he never said that. He said that the “team was able to talk to the fan to get the ball”. So Shohei did not lie.
I heard him say "kanojo to hanashite"...one of the difficulties of Japanese-English translation is the omission of pronouns in spoken sentences...e.g. he did not say "boku wa kanojo to hanashite"...obviously you understood him completely so I believe it is true that he was not referring to himself that he spoke to her...
The proper translation is something like “We got contact with the fan who got the ball, and it was kindly returned to us.” instead of “I was able to talk to the fan, was able to get it back.” since Ohtani didn’t mention who talked to the fan due to the nature of Japanese language.
I'm a Japanese. Ohtani stated in Japanese, "Fan no hito to hanashite itadakeru to iukotodattanode". That could mean either "(I heard that they) would talk to the fan and (they said) she could give it" or "( I ) talked to the fan, and (she said) that she was able to give it". It is common that the subjects are often omitted in the Japanese conversation. However, the translator did not check with Ohtani which he meant to say that and translated "I was able to talk to the fan and was able to get it back...". I know that translation job is not that easy especially for the famous athlete like Ohtani, so I don't blame the translator regardless of which Ohtani meant to say. 通訳は大谷さんにどちらの意味で言ったのか確認せずに「私がファンと話した」と翻訳していますが、そもそも通訳という仕事は難しいですし、とくに大谷選手のような大物の通訳には責任と重圧がある大仕事ですので大谷選手の真意がどちらだったにせよ翻訳者を責めるつもりはありません。球団の対応はちょっとマズかったと思いますが、今回の問題が双方にとってハッピーなエンディングになることを願っています。
Miguel Rojas - Hey what about me. I have 2 home runs! 😅 I’ll give Rojas credit. He’s making left handed pitchers pay. 👍 Congrats to Ohtani. The way the Dodgers are hitting, they should have 8 runs not 5. Too many solo runs and their average is down with men on base. On the flip side, it’s amazing how when the Dodgers pitching finally allow some men on base then the opposition cashes in. These above issues are masked when the team is winning.
After the game, Otani explained about the ball, saying, "I was told that I could go back and talk to the fans and get it."Interpreter Will Iaton said, "I was able to talk to the fan. And I was able to get it back."
Yes I agree , I think he will get better with time. Someone forgive me if I’m wrong but I believe he may just be warming up still to the huge crowds, I don’t believe he’s ever done interpreting for the dodgers in such big crowds as of lately.
LIAR, he never talked to them. this is how i would of handle that situation: Dodgers: Hey, Othani wants the ball. Me: ok, can I meet him and take pictures with him? Dodgers: NO! but we will give you a hat Me: a hat? Dodgers: ok, 2 hats Me: 2 hats? Dodgers: 2 hats and a bat but you can't meet him and take pictures with him!!! Me: sooooooo, Othani really wants this ball, hu? Dodgers: YES! Me: how much is he willing to pay for it? and then I would play their same game but on my own terms. :)
試合後、大谷は「戻ってファンの人と話して、頂けるということだったので」とボールについて説明。通訳のウィル・アイアトンさんは「I was able to talk to the fan（ファンと話すことができた）. And I was able to get it back（ボールを取り戻すことができた）.」と訳していた。この文言をきっかけに、ブラム記者がローマンさんに問うと、「会っていない」と返ってきたと綴った。
Maybe he should learn english or just not do interviews at this time. I think the slight misinterpretation could be forgiven, the Dodgers downright black mailing and bullying of the fan should be the bigger highlight in my opinion.
Is this a correct translation? That he was able to talk to the fan that caught the ball? Because I’m not sure if that’s true, shes claiming that she was pressured to give the ball back and that speaking/meeting to shohei wasn’t possible
No. Ohtani meant “ Someone talked to the fan.” He never said he talked the fan. As he omitted the subject in his sentence like Japanese always do, the translation was done wrongly. I am gusessing he wanted to say, “ After I went back to the locker room, I was told that someone from the team talked to the fan and the fan kindly decided to give me the ball and I appreciate it very much since it is a special ball for me.”
I'm commenting as a Japanese person. When we see the scene where Shohei is answering about the homerun ball, we hear he met the fan. Will (translator) is not wrong, and I think he also thought that Shohei met the fan, so Will used "I" as the subject. Japanese has a culture where people can understand each other by inferring things even without a subject, which can sometimes lead to misunderstandings. I hope the day will come soon when Shohei can answer interviews without an interpreter.
I wouldn't have let go of the ball for less than 50k cash, pic and signed jersey. Don't want to be a dick to him but 50k means more to me than to him. I'm sure I would get massive offers in an auction but I would definitely give Ohtani the first opportunity to get ball back.
@xlittleDee323 I was about to respond to the guy who said it's a good thing I didn't catch the ball....being nice doesn't equate to being smart. You have a franchise who just spent 1 billion in the off season and the player in question got 700 million and you're gonna settle for a signed bat and a hat? Lmao!! I'd sleep on it. Let the offers come in. There's plenty of rich collectors who would pay big bucks for that ball. I'd give ohtani first crack at it. If he low balls me with a couple signed hats, he played himself because that ball means more to him than a couple signed items. I don't want to be a dick to ohtani but I wouldn't let him be a dick to me either. That ball was like winning the lottery.
ABSOLUTELY DODGER AWESOME 💙 ⚾️ COME ON BLUE 2 Caps, a Bat, and Ball, ALL SIGNED !!! vs your 1st HR Hit Balll $100 K plus DO THE RIGHT THING !!! Free Tickets and Meet n Great Photos a little GOOD WILL... PRICELESS ⚾️💙
Congrats OHTANI on your 1st DINGER in LA, and but FANS IN HERE.. what would U Ask for in trade.. ILL ASK FOR A SUITE/ ALL DODGER GAMES for the year.. what u think she ask for a autograph ball / bat.. 👍 or 👎
Do you not realize that this is now the 21st century and you can talk to people via cellphone and/or texting and still might not have ever met that person or that he could have had stadium security and interpreters do it, being as he doesn't speak very much English! Come on man this isn't rocket science!
This is a mistranslation. Ohtani didn't say,"I was ...". Japanese is a language that does not say the subject. Ohtani said,"(Someone) was able to talk to the fan..."
My coworkers friend caught the ball. She never met otani so that's a lie. The security their was harassing her for nearly a hour. Until she got something in return that's when she gave up the ball.
Thank reporter for asking that question at the end because I was wondering as well. But then a ball, two caps(did I hear this right?) and a bat, I assume all autographed, still sound bit too little for that young lady who caught the ball. I guess she is less greedy than me because I would've ask two season tickets around 3rd base(where I can see the Dodger dugout better) on top of all those. Lol.
You’re in for a ride Long story short, ippei got into gambling debt so he stole ohtani’s identity to get credit and make large payments to his bookie. So ippei is very much out of the picture
After the game, Otani explained about the ball, saying, "I was told that I could go back and talk to the fans and get it."Interpreter Will Iaton said, "I was able to talk to the fan. And I was able to get it back."
Actually, he didn’t even say “who” talked to the fan, (I’m native Japanese so this is for sure) because we Japanese usually omit subject in conversation, so he did it naturally. Not lie or intentionally hide. The reason why he didn’t correct interpreter is maybe he didn’t hear or understand in detail or just skipped bc it doesn’t matter for him🤔 Now he’s definitely thinking this argument is even ridiculous 😂
Ohtani is a liar. He said in this video 0:25 "ファンと話して” which means he talked to the fan. Well we know from The Athletic article that it was not true. First, he lies about not knowing anything about Ippei's wire transfers and gambling, now he lies about talking to the fan who was basically threatened and bullied to giving the ball back to the Dodgers. This is PR disaster.
Ohtani is a not liar. But it's just a mistranslation. "Ohtani didn't say,"I was ...". Japanese is a language that does not say the subject. "ファンと話して”の後、"ということだったので（伝聞）"which means he heard about that. その後、"ありがたい" と言っている So,"（Someone） was able to talk to the fan and get the ball back," and "I was glad to hear that."
@@JunTokunaga you are correct, it is a mistranslation. I do feel bad for anyone that interprets Japanese-English real time like this though. It is a mistake by the interpreter, but poor guy has one of the worst jobs out there, the two languages are polar opposites.
@@JunTokunaga Actually I listened again. You are right. He s”aid ”。。。話していただけること”。The interpreter Will Ireton mistranslated. Ippei was a much better interpreter for sure.
After the game, Otani explained about the ball, saying, "I was told that I could go back and talk to the fans and get it."Interpreter Will Iaton said, "I was able to talk to the fan. And I was able to get it back."
I tried to think of any American players who have/had played in the Japanese professional baseball league for five years who could answer questions in Japanese. Hmmm…how the heck there seems to be no one!
I’m Japanese and the interpreter absolutely MISinteroreted Shohei’s statement. It was interpreted as “I was able to talk to the fan” but he never said that. He said that the “team was able to talk to the fan to get the ball”. So Shohei did not lie.
I heard him say "kanojo to hanashite"...one of the difficulties of Japanese-English translation is the omission of pronouns in spoken sentences...e.g. he did not say "boku wa kanojo to hanashite"...obviously you understood him completely so I believe it is true that he was not referring to himself that he spoke to her...
It must have been very difficult, but thank you for persevering. Shohei Your home run today was fantastic!! 😍
He showed why he is one of the best in this game, with speed and power💪🏼
The KING is back ❤🔥⚾
Ohtani Shohei san, great to see you hit the HR. We are rooting for your success always.
No.1 HR for the Dodgers by a historic star.
The Dodgers win the Lakers win and the L.A Kings win and Ohtani hits his first home run as a Dodger let's fucken go L.A 💙💙⚾️⚾️💜💜💛💛🏀🏀🖤🖤🤍🤍🏒🏒
Shohei's first HR as a Dodger, and it was the winning run against Dodger Rivals. What a way to start his Dodger career.
The proper translation is something like “We got contact with the fan who got the ball, and it was kindly returned to us.” instead of “I was able to talk to the fan, was able to get it back.” since Ohtani didn’t mention who talked to the fan due to the nature of Japanese language.
I translated it as, "the fan was spoken to and the ball would be received".
Yes, I agree, the translator added context incorrectly.
You dont even speak Japanese you
@@CAsaidit exactly - it was translated wrong
Ohtani-san, congratulations on the first homer as Dodgers player ⚾️🙌
I think a lot of Dodgers fans were relieved. Hopefully, that takes some pressure off him and he can relax more at the plate and go on a run.
A ball, two caps, and a bat... I would've had to ask for a jersey too! 😅
I think I'd have asked for season tickets lol
I would for sure ask for Jersey that he wore signed
Isn’t it a “signed” bat along with two caps and a ball. That’s worth a lot of money right there.
And a picture w him! Lol
Game worned jersey at that.
Ohtani finally regained his sense of self by running wild from first base.
Congratulations,HR,no1
It was great to witness your first home run as a Dodgers player! I hope to see many more to come.
His HR turned out to be the game winner for the Dodgers. Likely the first of many game winners.
大谷は、ボールを取った女性と直接話したとは言っていない。 試合中に球団の職員が女性と交渉したというのが真実だろう。 球団側が試合後に大谷と直接会う機会を設けてあげるべきだったし、それには大谷も喜んで応じただろうと思う。
普通の日本人はこれ聞いたら直接会って話したと思います笑
そうですね。でも日本人だからいつも100%相手に真意が伝わるように話せるわけではないですし、それはどの言語でも同じかな。ドジャーズもさっさと大谷が言いたかったのは本当はどういうことだったのか、きちんと発表すれば良いのに。毛一平の問題の時はマネージメントが緩すぎて、今は逆に厳しくて現場では何も決められくてマネージメントが全てを決めてるんじゃないですかね？だから反応も色々遅いのかも。セキュリティがボールを無理やり女性から取ったのは何だか悪名高きセキュリティの男性がいるらしいですよ。いずれにせよ、ケチがついちゃったね〜。
I would've asked for the jersey he hit the homerun with. Signed and all.
Jersey, bat, gloves all signed. Try to get season tickets if possible. Or a Porsche😂😂😂
I would've definitely asked for season tickets
Definitely the Porsche @@helloman3676
@NatalieR-nu5bp not for the rich 😂😂😂
the GOAT :)
I'm a Japanese. Ohtani stated in Japanese, "Fan no hito to hanashite itadakeru to iukotodattanode". That could mean either "(I heard that they) would talk to the fan and (they said) she could give it" or "( I ) talked to the fan, and (she said) that she was able to give it". It is common that the subjects are often omitted in the Japanese conversation. However, the translator did not check with Ohtani which he meant to say that and translated "I was able to talk to the fan and was able to get it back...". I know that translation job is not that easy especially for the famous athlete like Ohtani, so I don't blame the translator regardless of which Ohtani meant to say.
通訳は大谷さんにどちらの意味で言ったのか確認せずに「私がファンと話した」と翻訳していますが、そもそも通訳という仕事は難しいですし、とくに大谷選手のような大物の通訳には責任と重圧がある大仕事ですので大谷選手の真意がどちらだったにせよ翻訳者を責めるつもりはありません。球団の対応はちょっとマズかったと思いますが、今回の問題が双方にとってハッピーなエンディングになることを願っています。
質問も回答も主語はホームランボールなので、「いただける」というのは、「話をしていただける」という意味ではなく、「話した結果、ボールをいただける」という意味でしょうね。試合が終わった段階で既に球団職員とファンとの話し合いは終わってるはずですし。通訳を大目に見ていらっしいますが、このような誤訳が元で大谷選手が嘘をついているという見方さえされているので、正確な通訳は極めて大切ですね。Ireton氏は現場で大谷選手の近くにいたはずなので、彼自身がファンに会っていないということは分かっていたはずなので、大谷選手に真意を確認せずとも正しく訳せたはずです。これほどの選手に何故ちゃんとした通訳がつかないのか、不思議です。山本投手の通訳も酷いですね。
まさか一平にしろアイアトンにしろ、本業で大活躍してる大谷が通訳でこんなに困ることになるなんていったい誰が想像してたでしょうね。大谷は曖昧な発言をする傾向があるので通訳するのは難しいだろうなと思ったことがよくあります。「今日は昨日より調子がいいです」という代わりに「今日は昨日より調子がいいんじゃないかと思います」って「思います」とかもしくは「じゃないですかね」みたいな感じで男性を避ける傾向があるな〜、といつも思っています。イチローが必ず通訳をつけていたのは本当にこういうことを避けたいがためだと思いますが、大谷は何かとうまく行きませんね〜。
それにしても大谷がファンと会ってないのを知ってるはずのアイアトンがこんな通訳をしてしまうのはいただけないですよね。あー、一平だったらこういう言い方はしてなかっただろうな、と思ってしまいましたが、彼に戻ってきて欲しいと思うわけでもありませんしね。色々と残念。明日もぜひホームラン打って欲しいな。
私は記者会見の時のアントンの通訳を聞いて、ところどころ翻訳をすっ飛ばす人だなと思いました。一言一句を全て翻訳する通訳ではない。でも丁寧。一方で水原はずっとカジュアルで翻訳というより要点をまとめて話す感じ。男友達のような話し方なのでチームやスポーツ記者にも親近感が持たれたのかなと思います。日本人の話し方はもともと堅いので水原くらいカジュアルに喋らないとアメリカ人からは日本人と同じような反応は得られないのかなとは思いますが、水原も細かい要所を削ったりすることがよくあったのでそこはアントンと同じだなと思います。
何にせよ大谷選手にはただのバイリンガルではなくて、ちゃんと専門的に修得した質の高い通訳を雇われることを願っています。
これで会って話してないのだとしたら大谷が嘘をついたと考えるか極端に日本語が下手かと考えるのが普通だと思う。
He said exactly that the team will talk to that fan. Why media is saying he lied and said he met her??????😂 so wired, who is behind all this ??
大谷が日本語で戻ってファンの人と話してって言ってる。大谷個人に対しての質問なんだから主語言わないとしたらそれは質問と同じ大谷個人だから主語省くってのは当たり前。"戻って"も主語は大谷個人なのは明白でそれに続いて話してんのに急に主語変わるのおかしいでしょ。
ファンと話したのはドジャーズの誰かが話して、ということなんでしょうね。日本語って難しいね。
試合直後の会見なんですが、どうやって直接話すんですか？😂😂😂
Miguel Rojas - Hey what about me. I have 2 home runs! 😅
I’ll give Rojas credit. He’s making left handed pitchers pay. 👍
Congrats to Ohtani.
The way the Dodgers are hitting, they should have 8 runs not 5. Too many solo runs and their average is down with men on base.
On the flip side, it’s amazing how when the Dodgers pitching finally allow some men on base then the opposition cashes in.
These above issues are masked when the team is winning.
Who cares it is about shohei 🤣🤣
I laughed when he said, "What?"
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂..peace of lieing $#!T
After the game, Otani explained about the ball, saying, "I was told that I could go back and talk to the fans and get it."Interpreter Will Iaton said, "I was able to talk to the fan. And I was able to get it back."
ファンの人と話して、いただけるということだったので。僕にとってはすごく特別なボールなのでありがたい’、これって、球団の方が、特なボールなので、ホームランボールを手にしたファンの方と交渉して、大谷さんに譲って貰えるように交渉してくれるって意味でしょう。別に、大谷さんが、直接会って交渉したなんて、言ってないですよね！面白可笑しく記事にしないで欲しいですね！
Shohei 😮htani...😊❤... Congratulations to Shohei Ohtani 🎉🎉🎉❤
Will's job as an interpreter 6/10 Edit: He's a nice guy and all, but he needs to do better.
I was thinking the same haha. Hopefully someday in the near future we’ll have Ohtani answering questions without an interpreter.
Yes I agree , I think he will get better with time. Someone forgive me if I’m wrong but I believe he may just be warming up still to the huge crowds, I don’t believe he’s ever done interpreting for the dodgers in such big crowds as of lately.
“Trade”
LIAR, he never talked to them.
this is how i would of handle that situation:
Dodgers: Hey, Othani wants the ball.
Me: ok, can I meet him and take pictures with him?
Dodgers: NO! but we will give you a hat
Me: a hat?
Dodgers: ok, 2 hats
Me: 2 hats?
Dodgers: 2 hats and a bat but you can't meet him and take pictures with him!!!
Me: sooooooo, Othani really wants this ball, hu?
Dodgers: YES!
Me: how much is he willing to pay for it?
and then I would play their same game but on my own terms. :)
試合後、大谷は「戻ってファンの人と話して、頂けるということだったので」とボールについて説明。通訳のウィル・アイアトンさんは「I was able to talk to the fan（ファンと話すことができた）. And I was able to get it back（ボールを取り戻すことができた）.」と訳していた。この文言をきっかけに、ブラム記者がローマンさんに問うと、「会っていない」と返ってきたと綴った。
My trade would've been 1 gazillion dollars
うーん、これは通訳の方の責任とも一概には言えないですね…大谷選手の説明だと日本人の自分でも直接話して返してもらったのかと受け止めてしまいましたから
「誰が」という主語が抜けている＝大谷本人ではない、と断定できる話し方でもないですし。その後に続く自分にとっては特別なボールという言葉に繋がってることもあって難しいところですね
質問が大谷個人に対しての気持ちの質問なんだから主語省くんなら質問と同じ主語(大谷個人)だからであるのは小中学生でもわかる話ですよね。戻っての部分も本人のことであるのは明白でそれに続いてるのだから尚更。
@@takada603 アイアトンさんの質問聞いたの？「ボールは戻ってきましたか？」と聞いてるんだから「戻って」はボールのことを言ってるんだよ。
Maybe he should learn english or just not do interviews at this time. I think the slight misinterpretation could be forgiven, the Dodgers downright black mailing and bullying of the fan should be the bigger highlight in my opinion.
大谷の日本語が如何に下手かをコメント連投で熱弁してるのが居るけど仕事以外で会話する様な相手が居ないのかね？
他人の発言に常に正確性や責任を要求してるタイプとは皆んな関わりたくないだろうし
嘘をつく人間はそれ以上に信頼ないけどね
喋り方の細かい所まで突くと"戻って、ファンの人と話して⤵︎ ︎"と話しての部分が下がるのって自分がしてる喋り方だから通訳さん通す前の日本語部分だけとってもおかしい。
Is this a correct translation? That he was able to talk to the fan that caught the ball? Because I’m not sure if that’s true, shes claiming that she was pressured to give the ball back and that speaking/meeting to shohei wasn’t possible
No. Ohtani meant “ Someone talked to the fan.” He never said he talked the fan. As he omitted the subject in his sentence like Japanese always do, the translation was done wrongly. I am gusessing he wanted to say, “ After I went back to the locker room, I was told that someone from the team talked to the fan and the fan kindly decided to give me the ball and I appreciate it very much since it is a special ball for me.”
@@coo837wow thank you so much for this! I didn’t believe that he said that he talked to the fan. Shohei needs a REAL interpreter
@@jordanenriquez2138大谷はファンと話したと言っています。あなたは騙されています。もし、身近に日本語がわかる人がいたら、なんと言ったか聞けば答えが分かります。ここのコメント欄には大谷を悪者にしないようにズレたコメントをする人が大勢います。
@@jordanenriquez2138 yeah if you look at what he said in Japanese, nowhere does he say "I." Mistake by the new interpreter.
I'm commenting as a Japanese person. When we see the scene where Shohei is answering about the homerun ball, we hear he met the fan. Will (translator) is not wrong, and I think he also thought that Shohei met the fan, so Will used "I" as the subject. Japanese has a culture where people can understand each other by inferring things even without a subject, which can sometimes lead to misunderstandings. I hope the day will come soon when Shohei can answer interviews without an interpreter.
Free El Pollo Loco burrito for Kings winning, free Jumbo Jack for Dodgers 7 strike outs! Just have to buy the large drinks.
コングラッチュレイション 翔
Should included a Jersey
Shohehi is Handsome! He's been blessed! lol
He claims he talked to the fan… fan said they didn’t even meet… what a joke…
He never said he talked to the fan. Translation was wrong.
Ohtani San omtedeto on ur first major home run
I wouldn't have let go of the ball for less than 50k cash, pic and signed jersey. Don't want to be a dick to him but 50k means more to me than to him. I'm sure I would get massive offers in an auction but I would definitely give Ohtani the first opportunity to get ball back.
Come on, its his special moment. Don't fleece him, Shylock xD
I'm so glad someone like you didn't catch that ball.
Thanks to that girl who was kind, gentle and made his good night better.
@@debopamroy56 I guess I’m dumb , I would’ve also gave him the ball back
@xlittleDee323 I was about to respond to the guy who said it's a good thing I didn't catch the ball....being nice doesn't equate to being smart. You have a franchise who just spent 1 billion in the off season and the player in question got 700 million and you're gonna settle for a signed bat and a hat? Lmao!! I'd sleep on it. Let the offers come in. There's plenty of rich collectors who would pay big bucks for that ball. I'd give ohtani first crack at it. If he low balls me with a couple signed hats, he played himself because that ball means more to him than a couple signed items. I don't want to be a dick to ohtani but I wouldn't let him be a dick to me either. That ball was like winning the lottery.
@@田中-k8t8blmao ur soft
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Congrats OHTANI on your 1st DINGER in LA, and but FANS IN HERE.. what would U Ask for in trade.. ILL ASK FOR A SUITE/ ALL DODGER GAMES for the year.. what u think she ask for a autograph ball / bat.. 👍 or 👎
Get lost LA times Dyran, this is not for you.
大谷は「戻ってファンの人と話して、頂けるということだったので」とボールについて説明。通訳のウィル・アイアトンさんは「I was able to talk to the fan（ファンと話すことができた）. And I was able to get it back（ボールを取り戻すことができた）.」
Ohtani never said he met a fan.
It's weird that he said he was able to talk to the fan but she said they never met. What's up with that?
Do you not realize that this is now the 21st century and you can talk to people via cellphone and/or texting and still might not have ever met that person or that he could have had stadium security and interpreters do it, being as he doesn't speak very much English! Come on man this isn't rocket science!
He lied im heated about this
@@randallmarsh1187 I know.. and that's not what happened either. lol. Turns out this may have been an inflection in the translation.
@@timotmon Quite possibly you are correct, and it wouldn't be the first or last time something was lost in translation!
This is a mistranslation. Ohtani didn't say,"I was ...". Japanese is a language that does not say the subject.
Ohtani said,"(Someone) was able to talk to the fan..."
yes.
My coworkers friend caught the ball. She never met otani so that's a lie. The security their was harassing her for nearly a hour. Until she got something in return that's when she gave up the ball.
Need a tissue? Many ways to "talk" to someone without having actually met them!
@randallmarsh1187 I don't need a thing just stating the facts.
@@Sm00th89 So, you're saying it couldn't possibly be that something was lost in translation?
Thank reporter for asking that question at the end because I was wondering as well. But then a ball, two caps(did I hear this right?) and a bat, I assume all autographed, still sound bit too little for that young lady who caught the ball. I guess she is less greedy than me because I would've ask two season tickets around 3rd base(where I can see the Dodger dugout better) on top of all those. Lol.
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What happen to his other translator? Weren’t they best friends?
He was stealing his money
He was a pos, just like the rest of you Ohtani haters out there.
You’re in for a ride
Long story short, ippei got into gambling debt so he stole ohtani’s identity to get credit and make large payments to his bookie.
So ippei is very much out of the picture
He was literally nodding the whole time when the interpreter said “I was able to talk to the fan”… lying for no reason lmao
I think he simply thought “who” is not that matter there, the matter is fan gave to him the ball
Ohtani never said he met a fan.
After the game, Otani explained about the ball, saying, "I was told that I could go back and talk to the fans and get it."Interpreter Will Iaton said, "I was able to talk to the fan. And I was able to get it back."
Actually, he didn’t even say “who” talked to the fan, (I’m native Japanese so this is for sure) because we Japanese usually omit subject in conversation, so he did it naturally. Not lie or intentionally hide.
The reason why he didn’t correct interpreter is maybe he didn’t hear or understand in detail or just skipped bc it doesn’t matter for him🤔
Now he’s definitely thinking this argument is even ridiculous 😂
通訳の誤訳ではない。普通の日本人はこの日本語なら直接会ったと誰しも考え、それを訳した。これで擁護してる人は何がどうあれ擁護する人だから理屈は関係ないのだろう。
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試合が終わってロッカー？クラブハウス？に戻ってからファンと話したらボールをあげると言われた、という風に最初は受け取ったけど、後から考えてみれば試合中に連れられて行ったファンが大谷と話せるはずもないし嘘をつく理由もないね。だから曖昧な日本語についてはああそっちの意味だったのかってだけの話だけど、ファンと会ったなら通訳も一緒にいたはずじゃないの？それを主語がIで翻訳してアイアトン自身疑問に思わなかったんだろうか。
Ohtani is a liar. He said in this video 0:25 "ファンと話して” which means he talked to the fan. Well we know from The Athletic article that it was not true. First, he lies about not knowing anything about Ippei's wire transfers and gambling, now he lies about talking to the fan who was basically threatened and bullied to giving the ball back to the Dodgers. This is PR disaster.
Ohtani is a not liar. But it's just a mistranslation. "Ohtani didn't say,"I was ...".
Japanese is a language that does not say the subject.
"ファンと話して”の後、"ということだったので（伝聞）"which means he heard about that. その後、"ありがたい" と言っている
So,"（Someone） was able to talk to the fan and get the ball back," and "I was glad to hear that."
@@JunTokunaga you are correct, it is a mistranslation. I do feel bad for anyone that interprets Japanese-English real time like this though. It is a mistake by the interpreter, but poor guy has one of the worst jobs out there, the two languages are polar opposites.
@@JunTokunaga Actually I listened again. You are right. He s”aid ”。。。話していただけること”。The interpreter Will Ireton mistranslated. Ippei was a much better interpreter for sure.
Ohtani never said he met a fan.
After the game, Otani explained about the ball, saying, "I was told that I could go back and talk to the fans and get it."Interpreter Will Iaton said, "I was able to talk to the fan. And I was able to get it back."
大谷個人に対しての質問であり、戻っての部分もどう考えても主語は大谷の話でそれに続いてんだからどう考えても主語は大谷でありIだろ。小学生でもわかる当たり前の話で解説するような内容でもないのに、一々通訳なりに責任押し付けるのおかしいです。
アイアトンさんが「ボールは戻ってきましたか？」と聞いたから「戻って」と言ったんだよ。だからこの場合の「戻って」の主語は大谷選手じゃなく、ボールだよ。
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日本人の誇りだよ。
japanese!
How the heck he still doesn't speak simple English🤷. He's been in the league over 5 years
I tried to think of any American players who have/had played in the Japanese professional baseball league for five years who could answer questions in Japanese. Hmmm…how the heck there seems to be no one!
He spends all his time on baseball?
He can speak english but not fluently, he want's to communicate accurately and not having trolls like your or the media misinterpreting his words.
He was able to win MVP twice even though he couldn't speak simple English.
He's been in the league over 5 years.
Same way you can't speak sense when you've been on UA-cam for what I presume to be almost that amount of time too.