3:25 Stormforth allows you to tribute Noir but it doesn't affect the player, it does affect the monsters. The reason it affects Noir because it's not an "activated" effect, it's a lingering effect.
In what way does Stormforth affect the monsters it's non targeting and non destructive? Monsters have no way to actively invoke their protections against it.
Kashtira being incredible cards that don't need their normal summon with great effects and providing tribute fodder for the Monarchs is just a good combo. Also to quickly clarify the Stormforth on Expurrely Noir thing. Stormforth counts as a continuous effect, Expurrely Noir is only immune to activated effects. Short and sweet video, love it.
I also noticed this interaction between Scareclaw Kashtira and Psychic End Punisher. Both PEP and Noir states that "unaffected by opponent's activated effects" but when in Battle Phase and Kashtiras declare atk with Scareclaw Kash on board, all of them gets NEGATED. Scareclaw Kashtira is really broken
Would you rather use this deck, or the deck that you used at YCS Dortmund? I want to build a monarch deck IRL as well, but don"t know which version I should buy!
i hope one day monarchs get support that are like edea and eidos but also search the monarchs in some shape or form. give them onecard stuff like any other deck has
@@elfyar5786 I get your point (except that Spyral isn’t even close to being a tiered deck right now), but floodgates are not the answer. Half the Kashtira cards just need to be straight banned.
@@Mercaison yea my bad the deck with 3 fieldspell 3 prosp 2 desires 1 teraforming 3 unicorn and the best deck of 2 formats even after the hits wasnt consistent
Love the video! Monarchs was my first structure deck, so it's nice seeing them be a threat again. Out of curiosity I heard you mention doing some possible swaps to add more Kash cards. What would those swaps be?
It needs a tribute/normal summon engine like Floow has. Kaiju Monarchs that just tributes the opponents monster as cost to special summon themselves to your own field would be cool too, so you don't have to rely on Stormforth. Can't put too strong an effect on a monster with such powerful summoning mechanic though.
I was considering implementing a very similar combination of Kasthira (I run a deck with them already) with the Monarchs due to Kasthira being able to special summon for tribute summon fodder or being the tribute summon for the Domain when Ehther, Erebus or the Fiends don't reach my hand. Also, it is optimal to use two Upstart in a build like this.
How would This Deck Look like in real life tcg and which monarch Deck do you prefer? This kash monarch style or the one you took to the ycs? Keep it up 👍🏻
It might not be AS consistent(which is funny considering how often Kashtira can brick itself), but Monarch Man makes this look a lot scarier than actual Kashtira boards. Though considering who it is, that's hardly a surprise.
YOOO i built this deck right away and 7-0 already with it and brought me from DLv 17 to DLv 19 Most rage quit after you summoned vanity's fiend with no out 😂😂
In the first duel, you actually lost if your opponent wasn't a 0 IQ smoothbrain. They could have tributed Ze Amin to special summon Ogre, then used Ze Amin's GY effect to give Ogre 600 Atk to beat over Erebus. Then they are no longer extra deck locked and could have gone into an unaffected Psychic-End Punisher.
Slight variant for me, I didn't have enough gems to craft Pressured Planet and Kashtiratheosis and a third Erebus so I threw in staples like Harpie, CoH and Raigeki. currently sitting at 10-0.
At 0:48 how did he activate "The Monarchs Stormforth" twice in the same turn??? I thought you could only activate once per turn even if it is negated???
Do you plan on updating this deck for the new Banlist in 2024 I love Monarchs I've been out of the game for 3 years due to a severe leg injury bit ill be getting it fixed soon want to play this deck if you think it's still competitive
Hey, thanks for the video. I want to give this deck a try. I’m not so experienced with Monarch, can you please share what the cards are called in your deck? I can’t find the deck list, am I missing something? Thanks 🙏
You can’t Stormforth unaffected monsters, it affects the monsters on the field the same way Lair of Darkness does not the player. I couldn’t find any rulings on Stormforth Vs. “Unaffected by activated effects” (like Noir/P.E.P) so it might work on them I don’t know. But it’s not one of those cards that “affects the player” so you can’t out things like Underworld Goddess, Arrival Cyberse, Ultimate Falcon etc.
Have you considered using small world and clockwork night helps with consistency against kashtira. I win almost wverytije i open with clockwork night !!!
Hey Lithium! I made a new video Inspired by your monarch decks and this deck really is good! For anyone that wants to check out the video you can see for yourself how Strong Domain and Majesty and Vanity’s Fiend really are Together ! I call it the Surrender deck lol
I was wondering, even in your IRL build how come you aren't on riseheart? The xyz lock doesn't matter with no ed, and it means you get to keep fenrir and have a free special that destroys part of their deck? Granted its actually worse in the MD build because you have less fenrir with 2 fenrir and 1 field spell opposed to real life with 6 + terraforming but for the IRL version it should be fine right?
If you want to make Majesty's Fiend viable use the trap card Safe Zone monsters equipped with it can't be targeted destroyed by card effects or battle rendering Kashtira useless.
@@AomineDaiki_Zone They are doing that because Kashtira is a serious threat, not unlike this Monarch variant. Whether it already faces maindeck outs is a separate issue. Whether a deck is a threat depends on what it does, not how common non-engine countering it happens to be right now.
Anytjing kashtyra is gonna be broken you can make kash toons ans its gonna work. This decks are boring. The same happens every season with the meta plus anything... Any card mixed with the new broken meta cards its gonna work.
3:25 Stormforth allows you to tribute Noir but it doesn't affect the player, it does affect the monsters.
The reason it affects Noir because it's not an "activated" effect, it's a lingering effect.
Hey, I don't understand why you don't use " the monarchs erupt". Try it and thank me in a video later
@@Bradlolnick Which card would you put the Monarchs Erupt in place of here, to stay in a 40-man composition?
In what way does Stormforth affect the monsters it's non targeting and non destructive? Monsters have no way to actively invoke their protections against it.
@@Bradlolnickyes it’s a good card but you have majesty fiend to deal with monster effects and there just better cards to search
Lithium will play Monarchs until the end of time... and I'm here for it!
Same here been playing since 06
@@JustinNelson-kx7qy Brotha, I feel ya. I've been playing Ancient Gears since... oh jeez, the Lost Millennium.... and that was like a millennium ago!
Kashtira being incredible cards that don't need their normal summon with great effects and providing tribute fodder for the Monarchs is just a good combo.
Also to quickly clarify the Stormforth on Expurrely Noir thing. Stormforth counts as a continuous effect, Expurrely Noir is only immune to activated effects.
Short and sweet video, love it.
I also noticed this interaction between Scareclaw Kashtira and Psychic End Punisher. Both PEP and Noir states that "unaffected by opponent's activated effects" but when in Battle Phase and Kashtiras declare atk with Scareclaw Kash on board, all of them gets NEGATED. Scareclaw Kashtira is really broken
As a monarch player this makes me happy to see them thriving in 2023.
right been playing them since 2006 monarchs for life!
Boy do I love seeing Lithium cooking up new Monarch variants
It's funny that Kashtira Ogre has that Monarch stats
It’s almost like it was on purpose…😂
Would you rather use this deck, or the deck that you used at YCS Dortmund? I want to build a monarch deck IRL as well, but don"t know which version I should buy!
i hope one day monarchs get support that are like edea and eidos but also search the monarchs in some shape or form. give them onecard stuff like any other deck has
I pray to God they don't. The floodgate deck should not be consistent by any means.
@@moonman4659 good thing kashtira spyral and all those combo decks that end on 3-6 negates arent consistent right?
@@elfyar5786 I get your point (except that Spyral isn’t even close to being a tiered deck right now), but floodgates are not the answer. Half the Kashtira cards just need to be straight banned.
@@elfyar5786 "kashtira" and "consistent" in the same sentence? 🤔
@@Mercaison yea my bad the deck with 3 fieldspell 3 prosp 2 desires 1 teraforming 3 unicorn and the best deck of 2 formats even after the hits wasnt consistent
I love seeing these 2 arctypes can work together.
Love the video! Monarchs was my first structure deck, so it's nice seeing them be a threat again. Out of curiosity I heard you mention doing some possible swaps to add more Kash cards. What would those swaps be?
Lithium what kind of Monarch support would you like to see in the future?
We got a new Thestalos/Caius, maybe a solid tribute engine, better than edea/eidos.
It needs a tribute/normal summon engine like Floow has. Kaiju Monarchs that just tributes the opponents monster as cost to special summon themselves to your own field would be cool too, so you don't have to rely on Stormforth. Can't put too strong an effect on a monster with such powerful summoning mechanic though.
Thank you so much for this decklist going to use this during the ritual event.
I was considering implementing a very similar combination of Kasthira (I run a deck with them already) with the Monarchs due to Kasthira being able to special summon for tribute summon fodder or being the tribute summon for the Domain when Ehther, Erebus or the Fiends don't reach my hand. Also, it is optimal to use two Upstart in a build like this.
Yes, upstarts are filler for draws. Engine can be added
How would This Deck Look like in real life tcg and which monarch Deck do you prefer? This kash monarch style or the one you took to the ycs? Keep it up 👍🏻
It might not be AS consistent(which is funny considering how often Kashtira can brick itself), but Monarch Man makes this look a lot scarier than actual Kashtira boards. Though considering who it is, that's hardly a surprise.
YOOO i built this deck right away and 7-0 already with it and brought me from DLv 17 to DLv 19
Most rage quit after you summoned vanity's fiend with no out 😂😂
Master duel + monarchs + on your channel = Instant click
In the first duel, you actually lost if your opponent wasn't a 0 IQ smoothbrain. They could have tributed Ze Amin to special summon Ogre, then used Ze Amin's GY effect to give Ogre 600 Atk to beat over Erebus. Then they are no longer extra deck locked and could have gone into an unaffected Psychic-End Punisher.
What would you switch for Fenrir now it's limited to 1?
I tried a variant with just the Fenrirs, 3 Ogres, and Mithra, but I might check this version out. It looks better tbh
Slight variant for me, I didn't have enough gems to craft Pressured Planet and Kashtiratheosis and a third Erebus so I threw in staples like Harpie, CoH and Raigeki. currently sitting at 10-0.
You are the Prime Monarch
Kash monarchs? You had my curiosity now you have my attention.
i see lithium - i see monarchs - i like the video
what do you think about change of heart being at 2 in this deck?
It Is a very good going second card! But I think you want go First with this deck, so Change of Heart Is a brick at turn 1
At 0:48 how did he activate "The Monarchs Stormforth" twice in the same turn??? I thought you could only activate once per turn even if it is negated???
Do you plan on updating this deck for the new Banlist in 2024 I love Monarchs I've been out of the game for 3 years due to a severe leg injury bit ill be getting it fixed soon want to play this deck if you think it's still competitive
Nice, now I can actually use the Cards from the Megatin 💪
Hey, thanks for the video. I want to give this deck a try. I’m not so experienced with Monarch, can you please share what the cards are called in your deck? I can’t find the deck list, am I missing something? Thanks 🙏
You can’t Stormforth unaffected monsters, it affects the monsters on the field the same way Lair of Darkness does not the player.
I couldn’t find any rulings on Stormforth Vs. “Unaffected by activated effects” (like Noir/P.E.P) so it might work on them I don’t know.
But it’s not one of those cards that “affects the player” so you can’t out things like Underworld Goddess, Arrival Cyberse, Ultimate Falcon etc.
Gigachad decklist
This deck has made so many people surrender in platinum and diamond 😂
Have you considered using small world and clockwork night helps with consistency against kashtira. I win almost wverytije i open with clockwork night !!!
Question: Do you think you could put a list together for the upcoming Ritual Event? Monarch's are legal.
Hmm will check it out 😄👍
ANNND just like that I'm playing monarchs again!!!
I'm thinking Unexplored Wind could be spicy tech maybe 1 or 2 is enough
How would this deck do in Diamond?
Hey Lithium! I made a new video Inspired by your monarch decks and this deck really is good! For anyone that wants to check out the video you can see for yourself how Strong Domain and Majesty and Vanity’s Fiend really are Together ! I call it the Surrender deck lol
I’m just glad ninjas got support🙃
I was wondering, even in your IRL build how come you aren't on riseheart? The xyz lock doesn't matter with no ed, and it means you get to keep fenrir and have a free special that destroys part of their deck? Granted its actually worse in the MD build because you have less fenrir with 2 fenrir and 1 field spell opposed to real life with 6 + terraforming but for the IRL version it should be fine right?
It's a brick indeed. Ogre would always be preferred due to it's stats. Heck, I'm even thinking about Tear Kash for extra mills! =D
It so weird to see a Monarch deck full of only high level monsters. But if anyone can make work, it's Lithium
well those high level monsters are free bodies. its a free real estate
just a tribute fodder for monarchs.
If you want to make Majesty's Fiend viable use the trap card Safe Zone monsters equipped with it can't be targeted destroyed by card effects or battle rendering Kashtira useless.
March does this though? Safe Zone can't be searched either.
@@supersmashdylan March doesn't protect them against battle though and using both ensures you have one or the other in your hand which is optimal.
Decklist? I can't read the names in the video
bro were is the list some cards i cant read. can you list the cards here by names ?
the thing is, it still loses to what kashtira loses to
Thing is, Kashtira has a completely different goal tho 😄😅
@@Lithium2300 But you know, the title of the video is "a serious threat" when everyone is already main decking outs for Kashtira
@@AomineDaiki_Zone They are doing that because Kashtira is a serious threat, not unlike this Monarch variant.
Whether it already faces maindeck outs is a separate issue. Whether a deck is a threat depends on what it does, not how common non-engine countering it happens to be right now.
Bro try the Horus package in monarchs
horus you say?
Why not use Kashtira oger more in monarchs? It a monarch because of its states
Anytjing kashtyra is gonna be broken you can make kash toons ans its gonna work. This decks are boring. The same happens every season with the meta plus anything... Any card mixed with the new broken meta cards its gonna work.
That's why Fenrir should be banned it's everywhere
Bro stop pls stop play monarch, it is not good for un own mental health, deck is not good
Random person on the internet telling other people what to do, that's new 🤡
if you don't have a random bad pet deck that you've been trying to jam in every format for 10 years you don't know shit about yugioh
shut up