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Hey man. Thanks again for the video. Last year after watching your video I started using this formation to great effect. I just finished playing about 10 games with this formation you mentioned in this video. I came to realise after playing about 7 games that I am conceding too many goals against two strikers formation where one of striker just runs through the three defenders. Playing against a fast playing apponent its almost impossible to defend against. What I noticed was that when I reduced the defensive width ti 3 and depth to 3 as well, I started to defend much more easily. Also it helped to keep my full backs even more free during the attack because they would make even more late runs as they back back from deeper. it also helped me to slow the game down as I don't have to hurry up in midfield in order to catch the full back at the right moment to pass and disorganize the defence. Just from my time playing this formation. I'll know more as I spend more time with it.
Used this formation and tactics when u first brought it out, I dominated ... left it and tried your others lately ... after a Shit round of games I went back to this 😍... and I WON ... the winning streak can continue !!!! Thanks a lot for everything @NEALGUIDES
I used your 3-5-2 pre-patch and it was really useful for around 300 games. I have now used this one for about 20 games. It took me a few games to get used to it, but it really is next level. I build my team in a 442 formation as it gives the highest opportunity for full chem with Messi as a RM, and then switch to the 5212 in game, with Messi taking up CAM. The flexibility of being able to send the wingbacks charging forward on the fly is especially useful. Neal, thank you very much for sharing this. It adds so much more fun and agility to the game.
Man just wanna say, thanks big time for ur guides, ever since I started following your formation guides and started playing full backs as CBs my game has gone up another level. My housemates are too afraid to play me, keep up the great content
actually a game changer tactic for me! amazing, made the game fun again. had 6/8 wins in the last WL after applying the tactic. but it feels you really need the right kind of players to pull it off for example i am playing Valbuena as a wing back, and he is amazing there due to his pace, agility and stamina
George Daddy I found the best way to stop them on the counter is to jockey run after them and when you see an opportunity to tackle them tackle. And sometimes you have to slide tackle and just get a red
Thanks for this- has helped me move up the divisions when I was in a rutt. Great how it simplifies the game - just push full backs forward when needing a goal or call back to defend. Provides lots of quality width and chance creation. Ive found this beats most other formations. When you come up against 3 at the back this rips it apart!
Another quality video mate. Can’t wait to give this one a try. I’ve just had to ditch my main 4-2-3-1 formation for the first 5 WL games. Passing seems to be so shit since the patch. Everyone I faced was playing 4-2-4 or 4-3-3 (attack) and pressing high up the pitch. Impossible to create chances or even get out of your own half at times playing 4-2-3-1 against them. Been using your 5-3-2 formation. and it worked a treat. It makes such a difference having a number of different formations and gameplans. Thanks mate and keep up the good work 👌
The 5-2-1-2 😁 This really works! I've changed from 4-2-3-1, back to this one post patch. I still find the CAM to be a vital part of this formation. He needs to be fast and be able to defend as well. He'd win a lot of balls for you in the midfield.
I tried many of your tactics, and I found this one the BEST so far! It works for me like a charm. I been winning most of my games since I started using it. Thanks and keep it up 👍🏼
I tested this last night on Div 4 Rivals, got so many rage quits or people just giving up. Neymar as a striker is perfect and banging goals from everywhere. You were right about the wing backs hanging out on the top corners unmarked, on my way to Div 3 now and having fun with FIFA again. Thanks!
Edit: never mind, my wing backs just stand on the corner doing nothing, they don’t even try to make a move, then get beat on the counter. Maybe my CBs aren’t fast enough to catch up but having them stand on the corner motionless is really frustrating.
Been using the 5221, you need two incredible passing cms's who are free flowing and can use the space rather than be stiff, I use ziyech and Özil, they have a brilliant time in the middle
Seyaam Khan 3 depth, but I use my fullbacks a lot in this formation attacking, my cm’s are on stay back but there is still a huge gap between them and defence
NG this is an amazing formation. I enjoyed 5-3-2 and the updated 4-2-3-1 to close out games. Trying to adjust when cam defends though as it is Moments Silva and it’s hard to defend the middle. However, I have had high scoring games.
Excellent vid, love the detail. Been playing 5212 with attacking full backs for a while now and was looking for a way to improve, so will try this. Definitely need to try putting the depth up to help the full backs transition quicker, and also need to set it up to use the D-PAD tactics. The ST and CAM coming back as you have it should help my defense too. Highly recommend one the upgraded Pereira's as RB and the new flashback Fuch's as LB. Have catalyst on them and they can absolutely bomb down the wings and put in unstoppable passes.
@@theengineerish3r367 seems plenty good enough to me. I don't usually dribble past players, so he's effective for my game. Agree the stamina is a slight downside, but it's not completely terrible.
Will be trying this one out. I main 41212 (2) but against better opponents who use press on possession and overload, I find you get surrounded and need to switch to a 4-2-3-1 or 4-2-2. So this seems like a good option for those types of matches
Started fut champions 6 pm today is now 10 30 and already gold 3. Wins after wins and this tactic I think has got a lot to do with that. I Don t play with skills just normal quick simpre football. Thanks for the video amazing help 😁😁😁
Tried doing this formation but it just didn’t work for me maybe it’s the way I pass the ball around but 41212 has never been good for me either. 4411, 442 and 433 false 9 just work well for the way I play
NealGuides, brilliant video, used this formation during weekend league. Got to the rank I usually secure but secured it this weekend a lot more comfortably due to the formation being OP at the back. Felt like I got a lot of wins that were undeserved due to the affects of counter attacking with pacey strikers, also got a lot of abusive messages 😂 so yeah it definitely works
did you use team press? my players are completely exhausted in 70 minutes and they have really good stamina. thought to try this tactic this weekend because it has worked really well in rivals. however, I'm not very good and bet on gold 2 or 3.
@@mikaelroth3063 No press, just balanced - but I do have the CMs and CAM on aggressive interceptions - stamina is only an issue for my CAM, the rest are fine
Hey man really like your videos, just wanted to say thankyou as a new fifa player i find these videos super helpful just wish I could learn to actually score haha
Thing I love about this is the extra cb it’s quite handy vs thru balls or skillets cos they get past one cb there’s the other to block shot is 5221 viable as no one seems to have a tac vid about it the 2 can lw rw u able to try a workable tac for that ?
Is this still viable ?, I'm so bored using 4231. I like to play aggressive attacking football. rather lose 4-3 than 2-0 in those games when against superior opponents.
WOW I was able to reach Gold 2 for the first time with 2 games to spare with these tactics! Maybe after upgrading my team I can get gold 1 next weekend
If you set ur LB and RB to ‘join the attack’ rather than stay back while attacking wouldn’t they get forward naturally and wouldn’t need to use the d pad attacking full backs tactic in game?
Yeah but they then if you want to hold out the lead or just holding possession you could get caught as naturally less flexible, you’d have to pause to change which is just a bit of a waste of a pause.
Is this a good formation to use if you’re not good at defending? I follow you are not on UA-cam and every think you say makes sense as a lot of people would say have to cam get forwards but I have noticed in your other video on UA-cam how do you talk about why to put the cam Come back on the fence and it does work if you have any more UA-cam videos about this formation I would like to see them as I follow you a lot
I have a question. So we dont have to worry about the squad formation? Its on 4-3-3. I see this a lot. And the custom tactics formation is on 5-2-1-2 and its different from the squad. So does the custom tactics formation is the one in-game? Thanks to those who will answer
Adrian yes the switch to custom tactic formation in the game, I believe most people use the 433 or any squad formation for chemistry at first then they switch to in game custom tactic formation.
NealGuides - FIFA 20 Tutorials & in-depth Guides i play 4-3-3(4) with carvagal rb varane diego carlos mendy lb - sissoko vidal cm- drogba cam - messi rb mbappe lb and ben yedder st how can i play with these players the 5-2-1-2 ?
I'm just spitballing here but that CM probably cant have a high attacking w/r if you want him to drop back. I've noticed that players with a high w/r completely ignore instructions sometimes.
@@NealGuides definitely had mids roam up towards the box while on stay back. One of my mids actually does it constantly but it works out well as a good player to pass back too sometimes. It shouldn't happen but its EA so I'll chalk it up as something they fucked up.
@@NealGuides I run Seedorf and Wass most of the time. Both are on stay back and Seedorf goes forward all the time and the only reason I could think of is that he has high attacking w/r where Wass only has medium attacking w/r.
I want to ask why he can use the ‘X’ button to select and confirm and ‘O’to cancel and back but why does my FIFA has ‘O’ to confirm and ‘X’ to go back? How can i change it? Please help
I think it's due to the region of the ps4 that you've got. My friend also had the same thing and he said he found a setting for it in the ps4 settings itsself. You dont need to look for it in-game.
Look for teams that have 90pace full backs or use rb n lb as ur 2 rcb n lcb and ur wings as ur fb. Like barca n mc r perfect. But if you use liverpool Then leave ur best cb in the middle, sub out ur wack cb. use ur lb n rb as ur rcb n lcb and use Mane as 1 of ur lwb or rwb where firmiño is playing opposite Saláh
Thanks again for another amazing guide neal.. just need to build a team.. my dilemma is I packed a toty de bruyne untradable but not sure where he fits in this formation.. any thoughts?
I use sandro and futmas malcuit or cuadrado. Then I realise this formation sux for seria A. Go 4 at the back with seria A or even 3....like try 3421. Its no worse than this. Most better players play a counter attack with aggressive defence up the pitch. This 5212 formation will get bogged down in fut champs and leave your CM's lifeless. Overworking your wingbacks and leaving your CM to sit around makes no sense. Look at stamina and ratings when you play this formation. Even with the best wing backs you may get one assis every 2 games and a goal every 5. May as well use them to defend and use the extra non defender to score. So the 4312 or 4231 can be better than this if set up right with the right players. He is right it is similar to the 41212, its rubbish for most teams. Its nice to have a CAM and two ST but not in competitive fifa it is too inconsistent.
I moved him to CAM in this and he played outta his mind last night. So I went 'load screen' with him full chem as LM; moved him to CAM in this since his stamina can have him running back and forth. Then he makes good runs and passes/shoots with that both ways with that 5* week foot. Got the objective for Orisic with him at CAM in 5-6 games; didn't force it for the objective--mo fo just got open, LOL.
(sorry) To your question... Maybe? I think he could in this since I had Leon Bailey on 7 chem [RM on load screen] worked for me till he got tired, I would sub him cuz his stamina). So for the position as it plays in this formation, he should do great cuz stamina and being more physical for the defense than Bailey any day. But at CAM (or moved to ST after bringing in a super-sub CAM)... He PeriSCIK was lights out for me.
hey Neal you said you try it with a bad team in a high level of play such as elite or D1... with EA handicap being a thing can you try it with a OP team? cause EA handicap will make any player feel 99 rated
Funny you said that... I played (no disrespect to 'whomever' it's just what they had...) a full gold rare and gold non-rare team last night. One of the worst players I played and THAT was my toughest game. I was like 9-2 I think and that draw was harder than my two losses which were competitive. AND he was waaaaaaay worse than people I smashed. I don't get it either, LOL.
I recommend you avoid this formation unless ...yes you know your players will suit. I cant bring myself to use my wing backs as CB's. Maybe one. God video nice content. I just feel this is a very niche formation but one that works ok most of the time. If you want to grind a win out against meta leave this formation alone! Believe me I have been dabbling with it for years.
Im only a division 7 player so my view on it mayby not relevant but I tried it now for 6 games in rivals and won 4 and lost 2. But 1 loss was against a 1 dept drop back 4231 user who thought he was good but he only could score out of counters. But i won against 4121(2) 4321, 433(4) and a 4231 user who actualy played football with that formation. But that 1 loss against that 4231 drop back dude was also because of me I did a few wrong dicisions. But so far loving this setup mate
Been using 5212 since watching your 532 videos. I preferred having a CAM and sacrificed a bit of midfield coverage, and adapted your recommended tactics. Works well, though I only use it in spells during a game
Testimonial: THIS FORMATION ROCKS. Ok everyone... FIRST and foremost, you want good connectivity and responsiveness; I had that last night. My skillers skilled, my finishers finished (for the most part) and my manual defense and switching was on point yesterday--wasn't fighting the game. I just gotta type a lot cuz I was impressed. Okay. Now to the formation in 'good play conditions'... this formation and tactics and settings... it... well... I gotta say, DAMN it's good. I just went straight to it and set the Full backs to the settings he said to over-ride the base instructions. I left it on that the whole 90 minutes to try it out. A point that Neal said maybe in another videos is repeated here for emphasis, with some of my own words mixed in: DO NOT BLINDLY fly into your counter--attacks with your hair on fire like it's a race to the other side. You can if it's there, but otherwise you need to allow your players to get where they need to be; train your eyes and be patient to see them making their runs. It didn't take multiple games for it to work either. The players I went against simply couldn't defend it. Remember too, again like our guy Neal said at some point, you don't have to ditch your stud wingers... Move them to CAM, ST, the wing back on either side... EXAMPLE: Play a Full back as one of the CBs (which is cool b/c if they are physical, fast, can dribble-pass, you get a 'meta' CB without buying one of the rare ones that can do all that, which is how my RTTF Mbabu plays as RCB in this. Plus it disguises him and they think he's at RB with my Leon Bailey playing RWB (I sub him for Traore at the half, LOL) Get creative. The important thing (again) like Neal says is you get the right traits/attributes/players in the right spot. THANKS NEAL.
@@warren2863 Check their work rates maybe. If their Def is Med or Low w/High Attack that might be it. Also, if they are 'legit' decent-good players who attack and flood the middle of the pitch, going to the wings and quickly pass the ball with some unpredictability back to the middle to their Mids/STs for 1-2s, etc. You got to have stud CBs you can manually defend with. Not necessarily 'meta' but w/ speed and believe it or not, passing and dribbling so they don't turn it over after D-ing some one up. If it's none of the above, I think I run into... I wanna say the old 41212 vs a good passing/possesion player who transitions and counters and I switch to 4231. Of course there's the connectivity/responsiveness thing too bro... Where your switching defenders goes 'full retard'. That will get anyone anytime.
I always find myself losing against players with 433 (4) using this formation. Seems like players can just do 1 2 s on the edge of the box easily cos of no CDM.
Hi Neal, Ive been playing with this and im looking for a bit of advise, this is the team im currently using. www.futbin.com//20/squad/12021716 where would i place the players I have? i was using Salah / mertens as ST, hazard as cam but that would leave de bryne as a RCM... any ideas / help?
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Hey man. Thanks again for the video. Last year after watching your video I started using this formation to great effect. I just finished playing about 10 games with this formation you mentioned in this video. I came to realise after playing about 7 games that I am conceding too many goals against two strikers formation where one of striker just runs through the three defenders. Playing against a fast playing apponent its almost impossible to defend against. What I noticed was that when I reduced the defensive width ti 3 and depth to 3 as well, I started to defend much more easily. Also it helped to keep my full backs even more free during the attack because they would make even more late runs as they back back from deeper. it also helped me to slow the game down as I don't have to hurry up in midfield in order to catch the full back at the right moment to pass and disorganize the defence.
Just from my time playing this formation. I'll know more as I spend more time with it.
Used this formation and tactics when u first brought it out, I dominated ... left it and tried your others lately ... after a Shit round of games I went back to this 😍... and I WON ... the winning streak can continue !!!! Thanks a lot for everything @NEALGUIDES
I recommend you to upload this kind of videos during the week so people can practice on rivals
I used your 3-5-2 pre-patch and it was really useful for around 300 games. I have now used this one for about 20 games. It took me a few games to get used to it, but it really is next level. I build my team in a 442 formation as it gives the highest opportunity for full chem with Messi as a RM, and then switch to the 5212 in game, with Messi taking up CAM. The flexibility of being able to send the wingbacks charging forward on the fly is especially useful. Neal, thank you very much for sharing this. It adds so much more fun and agility to the game.
Man just wanna say, thanks big time for ur guides, ever since I started following your formation guides and started playing full backs as CBs my game has gone up another level. My housemates are too afraid to play me, keep up the great content
actually a game changer tactic for me! amazing, made the game fun again. had 6/8 wins in the last WL after applying the tactic.
but it feels you really need the right kind of players to pull it off
for example i am playing Valbuena as a wing back, and he is amazing there due to his pace, agility and stamina
You just earned yourself a new sub. This tactic has been working so well for me
any tips on how to not get hit on the counter
George Daddy I found the best way to stop them on the counter is to jockey run after them and when you see an opportunity to tackle them tackle. And sometimes you have to slide tackle and just get a red
@@radiantinspiration3775 cheers mate
Quality content as always Neal. This will take the place of your 532 that I have really been enjoying too. Thanks and keep up with the good work!
Thanks so much bro, I use the 3-5-2, 5-3-2 and now the 5-2-1-2 thanks to you. Cheers
Honestly 4 at the back is always more consistent.
@@therealslimgamey1 yea, for me it’s just a personal liking of playing with 5 in the back. they are good formations when used correctly
Thanks for this- has helped me move up the divisions when I was in a rutt. Great how it simplifies the game - just push full backs forward when needing a goal or call back to defend. Provides lots of quality width and chance creation. Ive found this beats most other formations. When you come up against 3 at the back this rips it apart!
Another quality video mate. Can’t wait to give this one a try.
I’ve just had to ditch my main 4-2-3-1 formation for the first 5 WL games. Passing seems to be so shit since the patch. Everyone I faced was playing 4-2-4 or 4-3-3 (attack) and pressing high up the pitch. Impossible to create chances or even get out of your own half at times playing 4-2-3-1 against them. Been using your 5-3-2 formation. and it worked a treat.
It makes such a difference having a number of different formations and gameplans. Thanks mate and keep up the good work 👌
Townsey ST passing trash now
Guys when you have trouble defending choose this formation.
Also if you have good attacking skills this is basically made for you!
The 5-2-1-2 😁 This really works! I've changed from 4-2-3-1, back to this one post patch. I still find the CAM to be a vital part of this formation. He needs to be fast and be able to defend as well. He'd win a lot of balls for you in the midfield.
Give it week and you will be back .... lol
@@therealslimgamey1 to the 4-2-3-1? Maybe, maybe 🤣 it's not like I only play 1 formation the whole game. Depends on the situation.
I tried many of your tactics, and I found this one the BEST so far! It works for me like a charm. I been winning most of my games since I started using it. Thanks and keep it up 👍🏼
How do you like it. Do you still use it
@@joelashtonfogle not as much after the recent update.
Chelseas had this formation back in fifa 17 or 18 and it was so OP
i started using this formation and have actually consistently been winning games. thanks👍
dieqo hi, do you still use this formation?
This formation is next level .. can't thank you enough NEAL
Play it for a few weeks and/or on champs and reconsider please.
@@therealslimgamey1 I already did try it in champs.. defensively it's too op and you always find spaces attacking wise no matter the opponent.
I tested this last night on Div 4 Rivals, got so many rage quits or people just giving up. Neymar as a striker is perfect and banging goals from everywhere. You were right about the wing backs hanging out on the top corners unmarked, on my way to Div 3 now and having fun with FIFA again. Thanks!
Edit: never mind, my wing backs just stand on the corner doing nothing, they don’t even try to make a move, then get beat on the counter. Maybe my CBs aren’t fast enough to catch up but having them stand on the corner motionless is really frustrating.
Thanks! It seems Sissoko, The Legend, doesn`t require chemestry at all.
"when your losing, you dont need attacking fullbacks, but when youre winning you can just leave it on"
XD
BenKetser literally just came to the comments to see if anyone noticed this
Been using the 5221, you need two incredible passing cms's who are free flowing and can use the space rather than be stiff, I use ziyech and Özil, they have a brilliant time in the middle
I use scream Sabitzer and Witsel and it is swell
I use de bryune and socrates
i am very very open on the counter attack any tips to help
@@warren2863 play with a lower depth and have your full backs on stay back while attacking
Seyaam Khan 3 depth, but I use my fullbacks a lot in this formation attacking, my cm’s are on stay back but there is still a huge gap between them and defence
I play rly fast football and this video got me from 0-10 to 18/12 in fut champs
Thats a sub for me
Nice tactics mate, thanks for share. I finally feel the full potential of my cms, hl nainggolan and rttf allan with this tactic. Cheers
I watched a lot of you videos and used a lot of your formations but this one feels the best thank you keep it up
NG this is an amazing formation. I enjoyed 5-3-2 and the updated 4-2-3-1 to close out games. Trying to adjust when cam defends though as it is Moments Silva and it’s hard to defend the middle. However, I have had high scoring games.
Just got my first elite of the year using this tactic - thanks heaps man
Unbelievable Football mind. Thanks I enjoy FIFA so much more cuz of your breakdowns.
Excellent vid, love the detail. Been playing 5212 with attacking full backs for a while now and was looking for a way to improve, so will try this. Definitely need to try putting the depth up to help the full backs transition quicker, and also need to set it up to use the D-PAD tactics. The ST and CAM coming back as you have it should help my defense too.
Highly recommend one the upgraded Pereira's as RB and the new flashback Fuch's as LB. Have catalyst on them and they can absolutely bomb down the wings and put in unstoppable passes.
Fuchs is not good for an attacking wing back, he lacks agility due to his height and also stamina. He also got 2 star weak foot.
@@theengineerish3r367 seems plenty good enough to me. I don't usually dribble past players, so he's effective for my game. Agree the stamina is a slight downside, but it's not completely terrible.
Trying this out on Fifa21 and it’s working pretty well
Will be trying this one out. I main 41212 (2) but against better opponents who use press on possession and overload, I find you get surrounded and need to switch to a 4-2-3-1 or 4-2-2. So this seems like a good option for those types of matches
Neal is this the latest version of 5212 ?
Neil can I ask why wouldn't you just leave lb/RB on balance same as you suggested with 532? Thank you
Started fut champions 6 pm today is now 10 30 and already gold 3. Wins after wins and this tactic I think has got a lot to do with that. I Don t play with skills just normal quick simpre football. Thanks for the video amazing help 😁😁😁
Your tactics are amazing !!!
Tried doing this formation but it just didn’t work for me maybe it’s the way I pass the ball around but 41212 has never been good for me either.
4411, 442 and 433 false 9 just work well for the way I play
I play 433 and just realised that I have 5 strikers when my full backs go foward
excellent shit man as always
NealGuides, brilliant video, used this formation during weekend league.
Got to the rank I usually secure but secured it this weekend a lot more comfortably due to the formation being OP at the back. Felt like I got a lot of wins that were undeserved due to the affects of counter attacking with pacey strikers, also got a lot of abusive messages 😂 so yeah it definitely works
23-4 this week with this formation and only one player worth more than 500k in my club. Such a great tactic!
did you use team press? my players are completely exhausted in 70 minutes and they have really good stamina. thought to try this tactic this weekend because it has worked really well in rivals. however, I'm not very good and bet on gold 2 or 3.
@@mikaelroth3063 No press, just balanced - but I do have the CMs and CAM on aggressive interceptions - stamina is only an issue for my CAM, the rest are fine
@@Bumble13
Ok, thanks for your reply. I'll try that
Do you need to use with fast build up play or will possession work aswell?
Hey man really like your videos, just wanted to say thankyou as a new fifa player i find these videos super helpful just wish I could learn to actually score haha
Thanks bro I'll try it to night
Love this tactic you don't have to pause so much
Which is the difference between this one or the 3-5-2 played as you explained some moths ago? Just that de rm and lm are now rb and lb?
The wing backs come back further on defence
Thing I love about this is the extra cb it’s quite handy vs thru balls or skillets cos they get past one cb there’s the other to block shot is 5221 viable as no one seems to have a tac vid about it the 2 can lw rw u able to try a workable tac for that ?
if i were to use firmino as the cam, would i keep him on balanced? he has h/h workrates so i dont know what to do
Hey Neal, great video and very good explanation! Which CAMs do you recommend?
What are the tactics for Attacking and Defensive?
So this is better than the 5-3-2 now? I did feel the 5-3-2 wasn’t the best anymore
What camera settings do you use? The view looks perfect
James Ward co -op
J cal he plays co op 20 height and 0 zoom
Play coop
Is this still viable ?, I'm so bored using 4231. I like to play aggressive attacking football. rather lose 4-3 than 2-0 in those games when against superior opponents.
Indeed, I used it last night and got clean sheet wins.
Sorry, the ultra defensive defensive balances and attacking what do we put?
I'm stuck in Gold 3 just using 4-3-3 without any special tactics. I'm going to give this a go and see if it helps
WOW I was able to reach Gold 2 for the first time with 2 games to spare with these tactics! Maybe after upgrading my team I can get gold 1 next weekend
Ok I'm a bit of a noob with tactics, but I will be on ultra attacking all game? Or is this only for attacking purposes?
@@AleksickAFC ah I get it now, thanks man
Great video bro thank you
Had been in my tactics since day one.....4241 killer
very nice video!!
I'm suggesting you should put a timestamp in your videos
Thank you 🙏🏾
So do we use it only for Ultra Attacking or for your main formation?
Main formation
I have one question! Do you start this off as your attack formation and have a different formation when balanced?
If you set ur LB and RB to ‘join the attack’ rather than stay back while attacking wouldn’t they get forward naturally and wouldn’t need to use the d pad attacking full backs tactic in game?
Yeah but they then if you want to hold out the lead or just holding possession you could get caught as naturally less flexible, you’d have to pause to change which is just a bit of a waste of a pause.
If using this formation, is better start with this n have other in game formations or other way around n gave this as in game formation?
What are some good rightbacks?
When do i use the d pad. Doesn't it take some time for the full backs to adjust?
Edwin Palacios they adjust strait away as soon as you use the d pad mate
instant!
@@NealGuides depends on server delay
Is this a good formation to use if you’re not good at defending? I follow you are not on UA-cam and every think you say makes sense as a lot of people would say have to cam get forwards but I have noticed in your other video on UA-cam how do you talk about why to put the cam Come back on the fence and it does work if you have any more UA-cam videos about this formation I would like to see them as I follow you a lot
@nealguides love your content. Can I ask is the 5212 as tiki taka as the 41212? Essentially their shape in the middle is same?
532 or 5212? which one is better
Going to test it in the wl. Thnx mate
I have a question. So we dont have to worry about the squad formation? Its on 4-3-3. I see this a lot. And the custom tactics formation is on 5-2-1-2 and its different from the squad. So does the custom tactics formation is the one in-game? Thanks to those who will answer
Adrian yes the switch to custom tactic formation in the game, I believe most people use the 433 or any squad formation for chemistry at first then they switch to in game custom tactic formation.
I play with mbappe lb and messi rb en ben yedder st and drogba in team . How can i use this formation with these players ?
maybe drogba rb, messi satmina an issue
NealGuides - FIFA 20 Tutorials & in-depth Guides i play 4-3-3(4) with carvagal rb varane diego carlos mendy lb - sissoko vidal cm- drogba cam - messi rb mbappe lb and ben yedder st how can i play with these players the 5-2-1-2 ?
But what should i do if i use Wingers? Where should i put them? Plz help
I Use bold of my Wingers (CR7 and Neymar) as ST
Ive been using a variation of this, and o can't get my CM to stay back. One of them always ends up in the box no matter what instructions I use
I'm just spitballing here but that CM probably cant have a high attacking w/r if you want him to drop back. I've noticed that players with a high w/r completely ignore instructions sometimes.
I was gonna say like Az Raz did. Check their work rates.
they cant go forward if they are on stay back tho? what u mean r u triggering them or extra striker d-pad tactic
@@NealGuides definitely had mids roam up towards the box while on stay back. One of my mids actually does it constantly but it works out well as a good player to pass back too sometimes. It shouldn't happen but its EA so I'll chalk it up as something they fucked up.
@@NealGuides I run Seedorf and Wass most of the time. Both are on stay back and Seedorf goes forward all the time and the only reason I could think of is that he has high attacking w/r where Wass only has medium attacking w/r.
Why its hard to pass the ball around after the new patch? Is it just me??
Man i feel that too😭😭
Yes, it feels horrible
Great Job !!!!!
hey Neal,
can i make it long balls? cuz its hard to have possession on fast buildup
U have 2 practice lobbing, put camera on co-op and use ur wings
Use balance
I want to ask why he can use the ‘X’ button to select and confirm and ‘O’to cancel and back but why does my FIFA has ‘O’ to confirm and ‘X’ to go back? How can i change it? Please help
I think it's due to the region of the ps4 that you've got. My friend also had the same thing and he said he found a setting for it in the ps4 settings itsself. You dont need to look for it in-game.
Is the 352 good for playing possesion?
yes
Any formation is good for it. You just have so set the tactics and instructions accordingly
Thx Neal. Quick Question. What is the main difference with the 4-1-2-1-2(2) with balanced fb’s and a CDM with ‘drop between defenders’?
Danny Koning nothing
The fullbacks will start higher in 5212
Hi...What would be the best team to use this with???......I play Seasons
Look for teams that have 90pace full backs or use rb n lb as ur 2 rcb n lcb and ur wings as ur fb. Like barca n mc r perfect. But if you use liverpool
Then leave ur best cb in the middle, sub out ur wack cb.
use ur lb n rb as ur rcb n lcb and use Mane as 1 of ur lwb or rwb where firmiño is playing opposite Saláh
Thx for your vids
you get counter attacked to death in this formation, the cm's will never stay back
Thanks again for another amazing guide neal.. just need to build a team.. my dilemma is I packed a toty de bruyne untradable but not sure where he fits in this formation.. any thoughts?
Lmao toty midfielders can go anywhere. He's best at that cam spot
Where would i play messi and cr7 in this formation?
Messi cam. Cr7 striker
both strikers
Which of ur other formations are still viable?
Thnx in advance
5-3-2
all tbh
my Center backs do not spread out what should I do ??
they have to lol, its impossible not to
Does this work in fifa 21 ?
Got destroyed by a 4-4-2. Any suggestions on how to play against 4-4-2
4-1-2-1-2
442 brought me to elite😂
Alvin Faiz i play his 4-4-2 defensive from him and i am 11-4 in wl
Jaylugia kindly share tactics for 4-4-2 please
Wingback suggestions for a Serie A squad?
Brickllama malcuit, alex sandro, mario rui, maybe IF kolarov
Theo hernandez inform
I use sandro and futmas malcuit or cuadrado. Then I realise this formation sux for seria A. Go 4 at the back with seria A or even 3....like try 3421. Its no worse than this. Most better players play a counter attack with aggressive defence up the pitch. This 5212 formation will get bogged down in fut champs and leave your CM's lifeless. Overworking your wingbacks and leaving your CM to sit around makes no sense. Look at stamina and ratings when you play this formation. Even with the best wing backs you may get one assis every 2 games and a goal every 5. May as well use them to defend and use the extra non defender to score. So the 4312 or 4231 can be better than this if set up right with the right players. He is right it is similar to the 41212, its rubbish for most teams. Its nice to have a CAM and two ST but not in competitive fifa it is too inconsistent.
would perisic make a good wing back or not?
I moved him to CAM in this and he played outta his mind last night. So I went 'load screen' with him full chem as LM; moved him to CAM in this since his stamina can have him running back and forth. Then he makes good runs and passes/shoots with that both ways with that 5* week foot. Got the objective for Orisic with him at CAM in 5-6 games; didn't force it for the objective--mo fo just got open, LOL.
(sorry) To your question... Maybe? I think he could in this since I had Leon Bailey on 7 chem [RM on load screen] worked for me till he got tired, I would sub him cuz his stamina). So for the position as it plays in this formation, he should do great cuz stamina and being more physical for the defense than Bailey any day. But at CAM (or moved to ST after bringing in a super-sub CAM)... He PeriSCIK was lights out for me.
R Johnson thank you man
Anybody have a team build for this?
hey Neal you said you try it with a bad team in a high level of play such as elite or D1... with EA handicap being a thing can you try it with a OP team? cause EA handicap will make any player feel 99 rated
Funny you said that... I played (no disrespect to 'whomever' it's just what they had...) a full gold rare and gold non-rare team last night. One of the worst players I played and THAT was my toughest game. I was like 9-2 I think and that draw was harder than my two losses which were competitive. AND he was waaaaaaay worse than people I smashed. I don't get it either, LOL.
I recommend you avoid this formation unless ...yes you know your players will suit. I cant bring myself to use my wing backs as CB's. Maybe one. God video nice content. I just feel this is a very niche formation but one that works ok most of the time. If you want to grind a win out against meta leave this formation alone! Believe me I have been dabbling with it for years.
all you need is fast wingers lb/rb and its fine
@@NealGuides ok will have a rethink on what players to use ta 👍
But everyone on high levels use 4231. Gonna give it a try
JOSEPH KW let me know if it is any good mate
Im only a division 7 player so my view on it mayby not relevant but I tried it now for 6 games in rivals and won 4 and lost 2. But 1 loss was against a 1 dept drop back 4231 user who thought he was good but he only could score out of counters. But i won against 4121(2) 4321, 433(4) and a 4231 user who actualy played football with that formation. But that 1 loss against that 4231 drop back dude was also because of me I did a few wrong dicisions. But so far loving this setup mate
Been using 5212 since watching your 532 videos. I preferred having a CAM and sacrificed a bit of midfield coverage, and adapted your recommended tactics. Works well, though I only use it in spells during a game
Testimonial: THIS FORMATION ROCKS. Ok everyone... FIRST and foremost, you want good connectivity and responsiveness; I had that last night. My skillers skilled, my finishers finished (for the most part) and my manual defense and switching was on point yesterday--wasn't fighting the game. I just gotta type a lot cuz I was impressed.
Okay. Now to the formation in 'good play conditions'... this formation and tactics and settings... it... well... I gotta say, DAMN it's good. I just went straight to it and set the Full backs to the settings he said to over-ride the base instructions. I left it on that the whole 90 minutes to try it out.
A point that Neal said maybe in another videos is repeated here for emphasis, with some of my own words mixed in: DO NOT BLINDLY fly into your counter--attacks with your hair on fire like it's a race to the other side. You can if it's there, but otherwise you need to allow your players to get where they need to be; train your eyes and be patient to see them making their runs.
It didn't take multiple games for it to work either. The players I went against simply couldn't defend it. Remember too, again like our guy Neal said at some point, you don't have to ditch your stud wingers... Move them to CAM, ST, the wing back on either side...
EXAMPLE: Play a Full back as one of the CBs (which is cool b/c if they are physical, fast, can dribble-pass, you get a 'meta' CB without buying one of the rare ones that can do all that, which is how my RTTF Mbabu plays as RCB in this. Plus it disguises him and they think he's at RB with my Leon Bailey playing RWB (I sub him for Traore at the half, LOL) Get creative. The important thing (again) like Neal says is you get the right traits/attributes/players in the right spot.
THANKS NEAL.
i need a bit of help, all of these poitns i agree with, but i am so exposed to the coutner attack and my cms cant stay back, its fustraiting
@@warren2863 Check their work rates maybe. If their Def is Med or Low w/High Attack that might be it. Also, if they are 'legit' decent-good players who attack and flood the middle of the pitch, going to the wings and quickly pass the ball with some unpredictability back to the middle to their Mids/STs for 1-2s, etc. You got to have stud CBs you can manually defend with. Not necessarily 'meta' but w/ speed and believe it or not, passing and dribbling so they don't turn it over after D-ing some one up.
If it's none of the above, I think I run into... I wanna say the old 41212 vs a good passing/possesion player who transitions and counters and I switch to 4231.
Of course there's the connectivity/responsiveness thing too bro... Where your switching defenders goes 'full retard'. That will get anyone anytime.
R Johnson thank you man 👊🏽
R Johnson yo, another thing, do u constantly change between fullbacks attack and stay back or do you tend to keep it on?
Doesnt work now I've just tried it 😂😂 kante still goes forward when I set him to stay back
I always find myself losing against players with 433 (4) using this formation. Seems like players can just do 1 2 s on the edge of the box easily cos of no CDM.
yeah, no CDM really makes it difficult to defend
@@LPT34000 it's annoying because a 5212 with two cdms would be insane
Thats why 352 is really strong, but the LM and RM are too high up the pitch sadly
Freaking genius mate
Hi Neal, Ive been playing with this and im looking for a bit of advise, this is the team im currently using.
www.futbin.com//20/squad/12021716
where would i place the players I have? i was using Salah / mertens as ST, hazard as cam but that would leave de bryne as a RCM... any ideas / help?
4-3-2-1 is op I was doing shit is wl and switched and won like 5 games in a row
TGF NINJA could just be matchmaking
@@ME1986c true matchmaking was awful