Remember this is an Attacking Formation to get some goals if you are behind, as some people like playing the 41212(2). As a reminder, all my formations are good and you can choose whichever one fits your style! You can support my content on patreon and get purchase to FIFA school to become a better player! patreon.com/nealguides Watch me stream FIFA everyday on twitch.tv/nealguides
NealGuides - FIFA 20 Tutorials & in-depth Guides Hey man, the cam and the cm stay on the same side on the pitch and the cam stays back while attacking. Please look into that. Cheers.
@@pratyushkoirala4121 Sorry what do you mean? Could you please tell me again and your ins? It might some glitch thats going around with 4 mid max, the game pushes players
NealGuides - FIFA 20 Tutorials & in-depth Guides so my midfield is rodri (CDM), mata anddoucoure (cm) and tossard at (CAM). Mata moves to the left and tossard tucks in next to mata putting doucoure on the wing when tossard is supposedto be on the right. Doucoure and rodri on the middle and mata on the left.
Really really good in depth review! I love the way you clearly explain every aspect of these formations and also go over what you have taught again and again which makes it a certainty that everybody understands it! I wish my kids had teachers in school like you! Lol! Thanks man! 🐐🐐👍👍
Put the CDM on drop between defenders and one CM on stay back. Put the lb and rb on balanced and leave the forwards on balance and your CAM on come back on defense and watch the 3-5-2 on attack and 4-4-2 on defense.Try it.
Thank you so so much for these tactics. I managed to get my first Gold 1 ever. I always came a game or 2 short and now i even have 2 games left. Brilliant!!
My friend, I tested this formation! I must compliment you, it does exactly what you described.. it’s not a formation for ppl who doesn’t know how to defend, it’s quite good specially with defending how the team become 442... unfortunately I don’t have any joy in fifa 20 so I almost never play rivals and WL so for draft or friendly matches I will sure use it.. I use to be division 1 player btw. I hope EA fix the game soon!! Thanks my friend
Absolutely quality hats off to you got to admit I've always been quite decent at fifa but this year haven't quite found my level until I watched and listened to this and works for me. Thank you man
Abdi Ahmed probably as there’s more players central. When you defend you want your players in the middle of the pitch. So 4231 you have to drag your wide players inside
Can this be used as a balanced formation? Also, I have no problem scoring but conceding goals is my main problem. Could you recommend a system that addresses this problem?
This how Barca play. 41212 - basically.. with griez and Suárez up front, with Messi in the hole. Rakitic on the right, Griezmann on the left, De Jong and Busquets in the middle. Suárez comes back a little to press ball player and messi conserves his energy
Love it! My favorite formation on previous FIFAs. I can finally give it a chance after the patch and after this vid. Just genius! Thanks a lot and keep up the good work. This kind of stuff is the reason I support your Patreon Neal, you really deserve it 👏👏👏
Wowwww. Neal - just want to say thank you. Using this formation has actually made me enjoy fut champs today 😱. This is my first year playing FUT (occasional/casual FIFA player before that). My record in fut champs is literally win one, lose one. Best finish has been gold 2. It was the same story this weekend. Yesterday I won five, lost five. So I switched tactics and started using this system today and I’ve won 7 out of my 9 games. I’ve literally been smashing most of my opponents and the two games I lost I felt like they were both to really good opponents. One of the defeats I conceded to two direct free kicks and lost by one goal 😭 😭 I’ve took your advice and adapted this slightly to suit my own style. I prefer playing with my full backs on balanced attacking runs and I don’t put either of my strikers on ‘get in behind’ just due to the sheer number of people defending so deep. It’s been working a treat. Keep up the good work and thank you 🙏
Thanks man I appreciate it keep going! always take break when you lose do not forget and thats the key altering it to your playstyle! Keep it up mate and thanks for the support (Y)
I, actually, played different this 4-1-2-1-2. Press on heavy touch with 4-1 and Fast build up play 5-8. Crazy runs, crazy passes... CDM stay back, STs on false 9 and optional full backs attacking. Mental pressure and build up.
The problem is where I play (middle east) everyone is on drop back , zero depth, and both CDMs between center backs. I use 41212(2) but I keep my FBs on balanced to provide width that I need. Sadly this makes my defense open
You don't have to, let only on midfielder go back on defense. Also, All of your defenders come back on defense, (so you don't get counter-attacked) have your tactic on balanced and make your depth on the middle, thus he can't pretty much counter you because you always have 5 at the back, but you still have a big chance of scoring. once you score and u will do if you are the better player but will take time, go on defense or ultra defense because 90% they are going to surprise instantly you with a high pressure plays with adrenaline rushed mind, which will open them on the back. This is your chance to score even more goals. EZ GG.
when you make your rb and lb go on attacking you will easliy get counter attacked by his wingers and you are in for trouble. It is what it is. If you are sweaty I'll park the bus and show me what you can do :)
Thanks mate. I was using 41212 since fifa 17 and still love it. I tried to use 4231 from your last video but it’s still to wide for me. By this video I’m sure I can come back to my lovely formation
Tried to convert your system and the instructions in my team... result was: less wins.. cause the cam is always out of position! Makes no impact in game. So I decided to try this: LST: Stay forward/balanced attack RST: balanced/get in behind CAM: stay forward/get into box LCM: get forward/cover wing RCM: balanced/edge of box/cover wing CDM:stay back/edge of box LB:stay back/overlap RB:stay back/overlap In game I’ll defend with my defense and the 3 CM. The cam comes likely till the midline and the RSt is directly in front of him. LSt is the “target man” for one tue... the LCM overlap the LSt and get parallel with the RSt in position in the box! My cam is the passer and scorer! In your tactic was the cam only a supporter for your midfield... makes no sense! Always out of position and the strikers were “alone” in the box without options to pass the ball to teammates in midfield... the cam took tooooo long to come back to his normal position in your tactic... that’s my conclusion of this formation... the tactics are: Defense: balanced, 6bar, 4bar Attack: long ball, 5 width, 6, 4 in box
Which one do you recomand for defense & attack 41212 narrorw or 41212 wide ? I have seen your video for 41212 wide so im not sure which one is best for both ...
Idk mate.. ever since this patch, 4-1-2-1-2 has been absolutely poor.. 4 - 2 - 3 - 1 just abuses that width and there is too much gap in the middle of the pitch for my cdm to cover.
Best formation n tactics on this game! Trust this guy! I’m shit but this video is brilliant! I have seen n used pros tactics n formations but this is something else 🙏🏼✋🔥🔥thanks mate
Am I the only one who has the feeling that distance shooting doesn’t work anymore ? I use most of the time rivaldo around the box with his left feet and still misses the goal.
Thank you for this vid, recently changed to 41212(2) I use the following players for each position as you instructed: LS-Son (Get in behind striker) RS- Red IF Griezmann (Stay forward Stay central) CAM- IF Mane LCM- Storyline Oxlade (Cover wing becomes the LM) RCM- IF De Bruyne (Cover Centre alongside my cdm Kante) CDM- Kante LB- 86 Roberto Carlos LCB- VVD RCB- Gomez RB- Semedo GK- Alison Do you agree with the positioning of the players? I had originally Mane as the get in behind striker, Son as the Stay forward and Griezmann as the Cam... but Griezmann lacks pace to come back and defend as a RM. So went with that instead especially since he’s my only player on 7 Chem so loses more pace like that.
Good video as always. Unfortunately doesnt work that well in game. My lzm who is on cover center is found wide often in game. So one defensive midfielder is found as a left mid which is not ideal, appreciate the videos though. Your 4-2-3-1 helped a lot
Hey, I have a problem with the instructions. The CM instructions are flipped and I can't do anything. If I tell one to cover the wing, he covers the center, and the guy who's supposed to cover center, then covers the wing. I tried switching the instructions up but I couldn't find a solution.
Yea seems theres a glitch atm. The CAM drops to CM and the RCM goes to RM in defence. Followed what you’ve stated LCM cover wing etc. Great video tho! Keep up the good work
Yea ive followed the exact way youve done. Its strange sometimes it does work as you say but not 100% of the time. Attacking wise it’s brilliant, really enjoyable
Great in depth guide video mate 👍🏻I need your opinion on something though.. Aguero is going to be my stay forward st but then I have 95 Messi and nif Mane, out of these 2 who would you suggest to go CAM and who to go as the get in behind ST?
I would say Messi as striker and Mane at CAM as Mane will be converting to either the LM/RM and stamina is very important, its better to keep messi forward, Ideally on stay forward and conserv interceptions also :)
@@NealGuides thanks for the advice bro appreciate it 👍🏻if I have Messi on stay forward should I put aguero to balanced or leave him on stay forward too?
Shaun L People who say that the patches haven’t changed anything are just stupid and have no understanding of the game at all. The last patch fucked up dribbling a bit. It made shooting better inside the box. The player switching bug is FINALLY fixed. But yeah nothing changed right?
I love the formation offensively but the defense bug makes it unusable, sadly. Although I have WBY on cover wing and Seedorf on cover center, Seedorf plays RM and WBY LCM. So annoying.
Yo Neal! What’s up my friend?! I decided to come back to fifa so I’ll be catching you on twitch. Any recommendations for a new player? As in where do I start? I heard there are season objectives now ? So just grind those?
Hey mate, good to have you back welcome! There are some, I would say grind for icon swaps if you can, since you are on lower divs anyway & then get to champs asap after icon objectives (they are more of futswaps so check it out under sbc swaps)! If you need anything msg me on discord!
So I want my LCM to cover center but no matter what i do even if i add the cover center tactic he always either goes to the LM or RM position he doesn't stay central. Anyone know how to fix this?
Bro this formation tactics work wonders for me, one problem though my CAM doesn’t seem to go the side I want him to. He drifts over to the CM that is on cover wing.
Exactly the same, mbape cam goes to the right. Rm dembele cover wing goes to the center. And the lm de jong cover to the center but he goes to the wing. Please, what i have to do to make It work, because i LOVE this way to attack its amazing. Thank you
OK so.. Messi is my cam and he should go RM and Bale to LM who's my LCM but Messi goes LM and Bale CM... Now if I pause and switch Messi to LCM and Bale to Cam, Bale goes RM! All I done was swap them over.. But I want Messi as a cam.
The only problem I have is that my rcm (dembele) doesn’t cover the wing. So my lcm (de jong) covers the wing even though I have him in cover center. How can I fix this.
You can't, I had the same problem with him, I tried everything, and dembele will just keep doing that. Because of this my Kante is just running like mad from one wing to another.
maybe when you are controling him you let him to go on the other side then the other player automatically cover for him, one match my witsel became a center back and my CB became RB, and all hell brake lose lel, second half though everything was fixed. I think that happened because I made a serious forward run with my RB but my tactic had everyone as stay back so someone had to cover for him... bottom of my point is control the player and force him back to position and see what happens.
silentslinky I play Messi as the right striker in this system who is on ‘basic defensive support’. He drops a bit deeper when you’re defending so he’s always an option when you transition from defence to attack. I wouldn’t use him as a CAM mate as like you said his stamina is an issue. I play with Mané as the CAM. I know he isn’t your typical CAM with nice passing stats etc but due to the way this tactic works and the requirement for the CAM to drop back and defend one of the wings he is ideal due to his pace and stamina 👍 I don’t put Messi on ‘get in behind’ either. I leave him on mixed attacking runs and he just seems to be in the right place at the right time. It’s been working a treat for me today. Give it a try mate if you haven’t already 👍
great Videos Mate,do you feel a differce betwen before and After Patch With your 4232 Formation? pre Patch IT works perfekt for me After patch i struggle a Little bit. greetings from germany
Gotta be honest haven’t had a good experience with this formation so far I dominated one game and then got battered, I’ve played like 6-7 WL games and lost 5. But then again it just might not be for me.
I'm really not a good player and I won my first 11 Weekend League games with the 41212(2) and then the problems started to arise. When i had 17Wins i had 6 games left and i lost 4 because my players where not making runs at all. The problem is that the gameplay is so bad and inconsitent right now that I can not say if this is due to the formation/tactics or just a terrible gameplay... What I can say is that this formation is the best one(i played so far) considering transitioning between attack and defense. One problem is with cms and cdm where cms sometimes do not cover wings and cdm (despite the stay back while attacking) will go to the wings leaving a huge gap in the centre.
My cam (eriksen WR) is mostly out of position during attacking! Can’t get the most of him... tried also RCM + LCM Cover wings to place eriksen defensively central... why is eriksen at cam so ineffective in this formation? Got also SS Mkhiki.. also always out of position! can you help me?
What if we want our CAM to become a CM/CDM when deffending ? Is it possible to put our RCM and LCM to cover wings so the drop back of the CAM makes him become a CDM instead of RM ? Thanks !
I've found with the game being slower and the AI being better and/or more prone to interceptions and suchlike, tiki taka is alot harder this year than perhaps any other FIFA before. The days of pinging the ball fast up field in one fluid motion of 38 passes seems to have past at least me by:)
CEWIIH passing is so bad this year and interceptions, especially by CDM’s controlled by the AI are so OP. However, this formation definitely allows you to play some nice football 👌
I have tried the tactics on the weekend league and so far 8 wins-1 loss. It works like a charm and this vid deserves thousands of likes. I even don’t want to use my other tactics Briefly, you made the game enjoyable again for me after a loooong time, Neal. Cheers mate 🤘🏻🍺🍺
I was doing this by accident lel. I was wondering why my rues goes right or left when coming back, i have him on balance though, not come back on defense.
Can someone explain what happened to the formation? It somehow stopped working for me and I don't feel comfortable with it anymore. Were there some changes to the gameplay EA didn't announce officially?
That’s also my question! My cam (eriksen SS) is mostly out of position during attacking! Can’t get the most of him... tried also RCM + LCM Cover wings to place eriksen defensively central... why is eriksen at cam so ineffective??
He’s right I used it and attacking wise it was great but defensively my opponent had a good amount of 1 on 1 situations or the defense was caught off guard
Does the possession offensive even work? I am trying to replicate Barcelona as much as possible but no luck. Game is so shit my cm switches to cdm on his own. I play 4-3-3 I like to keep possession and build up the play until an opportunity arises. Problem is I can't seem to get my tactics right. Players never do what the instructions tells them. My cdm attacks even tho I instruct him to stay back and cover center. The wingers never make runs , and the striker is still the entire game. Full backs don't attack properly even tho I tell them to. Any tips?
I actually use possession when I am trying hard - I use my player trigger button which is L1 to trigger players to go forward. Naturally players come short rather than run forward with possession, it also depends what instructions you use? Try balanced on all the instructions par the CDM and use possession tactic see if that works
Can an average player use this formation.. I mean div 7 player or bronze rank in weekend league to improve their winning result.. Or it only suit for players who r in higher division or gold3 or higher rank player..
Please do a review of the 3142 formation like how you did in Fifa 19. It worked perfect for me then and also I was using the same tactics in Fifa 20. However after the first patch idk what happened, it just doesn’t work. Would appreciate if you could work on the 3142.
Hi, excuse me, I need help!!! Does anyone know why I have this issue where my CAM keeps following one of my CMs to come back on defence? Yes, my CAM (Hazard) is going wide to defend the right side, but when I change Bergkamp (RCM) for Petit (LCM) to leave Petit as a center mid, Hazard changes sides too, and he drops to the same side as Bergkamp, leaving him as LCM and Petit as RM. It's really annoying since I need Petit in the middle along Vieira (CDM).
Remember this is an Attacking Formation to get some goals if you are behind, as some people like playing the 41212(2). As a reminder, all my formations are good and you can choose whichever one fits your style!
You can support my content on patreon and get purchase to FIFA school to become a better player! patreon.com/nealguides
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NealGuides - FIFA 20 Tutorials & in-depth Guides Hey man, the cam and the cm stay on the same side on the pitch and the cam stays back while attacking. Please look into that. Cheers.
Does the 4231 still work post patch? I managed to get elite 2 from gold 1 cuz of the 4231
@@nicholasngzhuoxun385 Yes it does :)
@@pratyushkoirala4121 Sorry what do you mean? Could you please tell me again and your ins? It might some glitch thats going around with 4 mid max, the game pushes players
NealGuides - FIFA 20 Tutorials & in-depth Guides so my midfield is rodri (CDM), mata anddoucoure (cm) and tossard at (CAM). Mata moves to the left and tossard tucks in next to mata putting doucoure on the wing when tossard is supposedto be on the right. Doucoure and rodri on the middle and mata on the left.
U ever considered of managing arsenal since emre got sacked?
they will announce him this ebening
Hmode Nzome 😂🤣
Arteta may come instead ;)
@@NealGuides hopefully not arteta😂
Stop being desperate ffs
Really really good in depth review! I love the way you clearly explain every aspect of these formations and also go over what you have taught again and again which makes it a certainty that everybody understands it! I wish my kids had teachers in school like you! Lol! Thanks man! 🐐🐐👍👍
Put the CDM on drop between defenders and one CM on stay back. Put the lb and rb on balanced and leave the forwards on balance and your CAM on come back on defense and watch the 3-5-2 on attack and 4-4-2 on defense.Try it.
I see your point, but in defense it's a "5 at the back" formation I guess..but it's still good though
Thank you so so much for these tactics. I managed to get my first Gold 1 ever. I always came a game or 2 short and now i even have 2 games left. Brilliant!!
My friend, I tested this formation! I must compliment you, it does exactly what you described.. it’s not a formation for ppl who doesn’t know how to defend, it’s quite good specially with defending how the team become 442... unfortunately I don’t have any joy in fifa 20 so I almost never play rivals and WL so for draft or friendly matches I will sure use it.. I use to be division 1 player btw. I hope EA fix the game soon!!
Thanks my friend
Keep hoping, sadly ofc...
Absolutely quality hats off to you got to admit I've always been quite decent at fifa but this year haven't quite found my level until I watched and listened to this and works for me. Thank you man
I’ve already been using this formation and I enjoy it I’ll have to give these tactics a try and see if it feels even better
I haven't used this formation in about 3 or 4 weeks. But it's solid, I actually defender better with this formation than I do in a 4231.
Abdi Ahmed probably as there’s more players central. When you defend you want your players in the middle of the pitch. So 4231 you have to drag your wide players inside
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hi man i got a job for u at FC Barcelona, valverde is getting sacked right now pls we need u.
Honestly the best tactics I’ve used this year. I’m a very average player but this guide has really helped me to get more wins. Thanks mate.
Same man,I used his 4312 tactics and they’ve really saved me
4231*
Can this be used as a balanced formation?
Also, I have no problem scoring but conceding goals is my main problem. Could you recommend a system that addresses this problem?
This how Barca play. 41212 - basically.. with griez and Suárez up front, with Messi in the hole.
Rakitic on the right, Griezmann on the left, De Jong and Busquets in the middle. Suárez comes back a little to press ball player and messi conserves his energy
Love it! My favorite formation on previous FIFAs. I can finally give it a chance after the patch and after this vid. Just genius! Thanks a lot and keep up the good work. This kind of stuff is the reason I support your Patreon Neal, you really deserve it 👏👏👏
Wowwww. Neal - just want to say thank you. Using this formation has actually made me enjoy fut champs today 😱.
This is my first year playing FUT (occasional/casual FIFA player before that). My record in fut champs is literally win one, lose one. Best finish has been gold 2.
It was the same story this weekend. Yesterday I won five, lost five. So I switched tactics and started using this system today and I’ve won 7 out of my 9 games. I’ve literally been smashing most of my opponents and the two games I lost I felt like they were both to really good opponents. One of the defeats I conceded to two direct free kicks and lost by one goal 😭 😭
I’ve took your advice and adapted this slightly to suit my own style. I prefer playing with my full backs on balanced attacking runs and I don’t put either of my strikers on ‘get in behind’ just due to the sheer number of people defending so deep. It’s been working a treat.
Keep up the good work and thank you 🙏
Thanks man I appreciate it keep going! always take break when you lose do not forget and thats the key altering it to your playstyle!
Keep it up mate and thanks for the support (Y)
I, actually, played different this 4-1-2-1-2. Press on heavy touch with 4-1 and Fast build up play 5-8. Crazy runs, crazy passes... CDM stay back, STs on false 9 and optional full backs attacking. Mental pressure and build up.
The problem is where I play (middle east) everyone is on drop back , zero depth, and both CDMs between center backs.
I use 41212(2) but I keep my FBs on balanced to provide width that I need. Sadly this makes my defense open
You don't have to, let only on midfielder go back on defense. Also, All of your defenders come back on defense, (so you don't get counter-attacked) have your tactic on balanced and make your depth on the middle, thus he can't pretty much counter you because you always have 5 at the back, but you still have a big chance of scoring.
once you score and u will do if you are the better player but will take time, go on defense or ultra defense because 90% they are going to surprise instantly you with a high pressure plays with adrenaline rushed mind, which will open them on the back. This is your chance to score even more goals.
EZ GG.
when you make your rb and lb go on attacking you will easliy get counter attacked by his wingers and you are in for trouble. It is what it is.
If you are sweaty I'll park the bus and show me what you can do :)
Change to a formation with winger's
Thanks mate. I was using 41212 since fifa 17 and still love it. I tried to use 4231 from your last video but it’s still to wide for me. By this video I’m sure I can come back to my lovely formation
I like your tactics, I hate how Fifa changes the game with the new updates though.
Pz come to west ham. We need someone that’s understands football
Or barca
Abdalle Elmi Valverde understands football. He just lacks the personal side of managing
As always, another genius video from the genius! Absolutely great stuff here, Neal! Thanks for the tactics
Tried to convert your system and the instructions in my team... result was: less wins.. cause the cam is always out of position! Makes no impact in game. So I decided to try this:
LST: Stay forward/balanced attack
RST: balanced/get in behind
CAM: stay forward/get into box
LCM: get forward/cover wing
RCM: balanced/edge of box/cover wing
CDM:stay back/edge of box
LB:stay back/overlap
RB:stay back/overlap
In game I’ll defend with my defense and the 3 CM. The cam comes likely till the midline and the RSt is directly in front of him. LSt is the “target man” for one tue... the LCM overlap the LSt and get parallel with the RSt in position in the box! My cam is the passer and scorer!
In your tactic was the cam only a supporter for your midfield... makes no sense! Always out of position and the strikers were “alone” in the box without options to pass the ball to teammates in midfield... the cam took tooooo long to come back to his normal position in your tactic... that’s my conclusion of this formation...
the tactics are:
Defense: balanced, 6bar, 4bar
Attack: long ball, 5 width, 6, 4 in box
You have to wait for the cam to join it's mainly for defensive stability, but if your system works than gg :)
Which one do you recomand for defense & attack 41212 narrorw or 41212 wide ? I have seen your video for 41212 wide so im not sure which one is best for both ...
Great vid Neal always learn a lot with you videos
You just got a new sub😎 this helped out a lot since I play seasons online or when I play against my older brother lol 😅😅
Same here
Really enjoying the tactics, keep it up man!
Idk mate.. ever since this patch, 4-1-2-1-2 has been absolutely poor.. 4 - 2 - 3 - 1 just abuses that width and there is too much gap in the middle of the pitch for my cdm to cover.
RadianSix true
RadianSix what formation do you think is the best now?
@@jeetamd22 After the current patch this formation looks a lot more viable
You sir just gained a sub - truly amazing content!
Best formation n tactics on this game! Trust this guy! I’m shit but this video is brilliant! I have seen n used pros tactics n formations but this is something else 🙏🏼✋🔥🔥thanks mate
Am I the only one who has the feeling that distance shooting doesn’t work anymore ? I use most of the time rivaldo around the box with his left feet and still misses the goal.
Bas UA-cam Try IF Naigoland
Its been nerfed since two patches ago
Who shoots regular long shots? You need to finesse
Fangyi Xu just packed him in a 2 rare player pack, so will definetly give him a try. But i think he would better as a cdm.
Mr Ty I use finesse shooting for distance shooting but it just doesn’t seem to work. While rivaldo has 90 distance shooting.
Absolutely love this tactic. Good job Neil 👍
Thank you for this vid, recently changed to 41212(2) I use the following players for each position as you instructed:
LS-Son (Get in behind striker)
RS- Red IF Griezmann (Stay forward Stay central)
CAM- IF Mane
LCM- Storyline Oxlade (Cover wing becomes the LM)
RCM- IF De Bruyne (Cover Centre alongside my cdm Kante)
CDM- Kante
LB- 86 Roberto Carlos
LCB- VVD
RCB- Gomez
RB- Semedo
GK- Alison
Do you agree with the positioning of the players? I had originally Mane as the get in behind striker, Son as the Stay forward and Griezmann as the Cam... but Griezmann lacks pace to come back and defend as a RM. So went with that instead especially since he’s my only player on 7 Chem so loses more pace like that.
Good video as always. Unfortunately doesnt work that well in game. My lzm who is on cover center is found wide often in game. So one defensive midfielder is found as a left mid which is not ideal, appreciate the videos though. Your 4-2-3-1 helped a lot
Hi neal , not drop between defenders for the cdm?
Being using ur 4231 it helped my defence a lot
You made such a big progress! Good job! been here since the day Inception made me subscribe to you :D
Hey, I have a problem with the instructions. The CM instructions are flipped and I can't do anything. If I tell one to cover the wing, he covers the center, and the guy who's supposed to cover center, then covers the wing. I tried switching the instructions up but I couldn't find a solution.
Same here
Same
ElVikingo same
Yea seems theres a glitch atm. The CAM drops to CM and the RCM goes to RM in defence. Followed what you’ve stated LCM cover wing etc. Great video tho! Keep up the good work
Yes it looks like to be a glitch, mainly post patch, I will look into this and get back to you ASAP, you followed exact ins?
Yea ive followed the exact way youve done. Its strange sometimes it does work as you say but not 100% of the time. Attacking wise it’s brilliant, really enjoyable
NealGuides - FIFA 20 Tutorials & in-depth Guides this is true I was having the same problem and followed the exact instructions. Any update?
Hi can you give me the link of the video that you mentioned at the end? Thx. Great video. Impressive creativity in the gameplay!
Great in depth guide video mate 👍🏻I need your opinion on something though.. Aguero is going to be my stay forward st but then I have 95 Messi and nif Mane, out of these 2 who would you suggest to go CAM and who to go as the get in behind ST?
I would say Messi as striker and Mane at CAM as Mane will be converting to either the LM/RM and stamina is very important, its better to keep messi forward, Ideally on stay forward and conserv interceptions also :)
@@NealGuides thanks for the advice bro appreciate it 👍🏻if I have Messi on stay forward should I put aguero to balanced or leave him on stay forward too?
Not used it yet but looks promising at least in theory.. thanks anyway by helping ppl.
Why do people constantly keep putting "post patch" like any of the patches have changed anything? 9 patches and nothing has changed
wrong , it got worse.
The patches have changed the way players come back on defense
Post patch the game has changed so much :)
Either you dont play the game, or just too dumb to notice it
Shaun L People who say that the patches haven’t changed anything are just stupid and have no understanding of the game at all. The last patch fucked up dribbling a bit. It made shooting better inside the box. The player switching bug is FINALLY fixed. But yeah nothing changed right?
nice vids, maybe at the end of the vid link a unlisted vid of u using the formation , full match
I have hazard,firmino and Sancho as forwards who should I put as a cam and other as attacker and cms are pogba and wijnaldam please suggest bro?
You are a genius!! Thank you
I love the formation offensively but the defense bug makes it unusable, sadly. Although I have WBY on cover wing and Seedorf on cover center, Seedorf plays RM and WBY LCM. So annoying.
Yo Neal! What’s up my friend?! I decided to come back to fifa so I’ll be catching you on twitch. Any recommendations for a new player? As in where do I start? I heard there are season objectives now ? So just grind those?
Hey mate, good to have you back welcome! There are some, I would say grind for icon swaps if you can, since you are on lower divs anyway & then get to champs asap after icon objectives (they are more of futswaps so check it out under sbc swaps)! If you need anything msg me on discord!
NealGuides - FIFA 20 Tutorials & in-depth Guides thanks dude! Do you generally have a streaming schedule? Glad to see you’re doing well!
What division are you? And where do you rank in fut champs? I dont see you getting anything good with that basic team.
do not worry man, I played with a 15k team last year and got to elites so do not worry
So I want my LCM to cover center but no matter what i do even if i add the cover center tactic he always either goes to the LM or RM position he doesn't stay central. Anyone know how to fix this?
yes me too
I’ve been messing about with the 4-3-3 flat and telling the wingers to come back it makes it a 4-5-1 in defence, VERY solid tbh
The point is, you can't defend with 5 midfielders anymore (1 midfielder will stay in the upfront automatically) since the update.
@@BostonFaith this AI update doesn't apply to 5ATB formations I'm guessing?
@@MorrisseyMuse with 5atb, you can only defend with 3 midfielders, so basically, you have always 2 guys staying forward.
Bro this formation tactics work wonders for me, one problem though my CAM doesn’t seem to go the side I want him to. He drifts over to the CM that is on cover wing.
Same. I even tried changing it over but my cam still goes to the wrong side
Exactly the same, mbape cam goes to the right. Rm dembele cover wing goes to the center. And the lm de jong cover to the center but he goes to the wing. Please, what i have to do to make It work, because i LOVE this way to attack its amazing. Thank you
OK so.. Messi is my cam and he should go RM and Bale to LM who's my LCM but Messi goes LM and Bale CM... Now if I pause and switch Messi to LCM and Bale to Cam, Bale goes RM! All I done was swap them over.. But I want Messi as a cam.
Yes but this is the problem, the good of this formation its to have mbappe being a cam when you attack.
exact same problem for me bro, end up with Gerrard on the wing & Salah in CM🤷🏻♂️
Keep grinding man! Great video
I like the 442 so ima give this a try
The only problem I have is that my rcm (dembele) doesn’t cover the wing. So my lcm (de jong) covers the wing even though I have him in cover center. How can I fix this.
You can't, I had the same problem with him, I tried everything, and dembele will just keep doing that. Because of this my Kante is just running like mad from one wing to another.
maybe when you are controling him you let him to go on the other side then the other player automatically cover for him, one match my witsel became a center back and my CB became RB, and all hell brake lose lel, second half though everything was fixed.
I think that happened because I made a serious forward run with my RB but my tactic had everyone as stay back so someone had to cover for him... bottom of my point is control the player and force him back to position and see what happens.
Have you tried Messi at CAM in this? He's a brilliant CAM but worried he doesn't have the stamina.
silentslinky I play Messi as the right striker in this system who is on ‘basic defensive support’. He drops a bit deeper when you’re defending so he’s always an option when you transition from defence to attack.
I wouldn’t use him as a CAM mate as like you said his stamina is an issue. I play with Mané as the CAM. I know he isn’t your typical CAM with nice passing stats etc but due to the way this tactic works and the requirement for the CAM to drop back and defend one of the wings he is ideal due to his pace and stamina 👍
I don’t put Messi on ‘get in behind’ either. I leave him on mixed attacking runs and he just seems to be in the right place at the right time. It’s been working a treat for me today. Give it a try mate if you haven’t already 👍
great Videos Mate,do you feel a differce betwen before and After Patch With your 4232 Formation?
pre Patch IT works perfekt for me
After patch i struggle a Little bit.
greetings from germany
I feel like its much harder as the gameplay has changed a lot, lets wait for champs!
This might be the best one
Hey mate i play with juve just seasons which form/tac/inst and which players should i use and their positions thanks
What work rates are best for the cm roles?
Is this better than 4231 now?
They are both good
Yh 4231 for me with balance balance is the Best
Gotta be honest haven’t had a good experience with this formation so far I dominated one game and then got battered, I’ve played like 6-7 WL games and lost 5. But then again it just might not be for me.
I'm really not a good player and I won my first 11 Weekend League games with the 41212(2) and then the problems started to arise. When i had 17Wins i had 6 games left and i lost 4 because my players where not making runs at all. The problem is that the gameplay is so bad and inconsitent right now that I can not say if this is due to the formation/tactics or just a terrible gameplay... What I can say is that this formation is the best one(i played so far) considering transitioning between attack and defense. One problem is with cms and cdm where cms sometimes do not cover wings and cdm (despite the stay back while attacking) will go to the wings leaving a huge gap in the centre.
I have son and mane on striker. Which on should I put on get in behind?
My cam (eriksen WR) is mostly out of position during attacking! Can’t get the most of him... tried also RCM + LCM Cover wings to place eriksen defensively central... why is eriksen at cam so ineffective in this formation? Got also SS Mkhiki.. also always out of position! can you help me?
Is it better than 3-5-2 in
current meta? 🤔
This is an attacking formation, completely different all my formations are viable everyone has different styles
@@NealGuides Thanks bro
What if we want our CAM to become a CM/CDM when deffending ? Is it possible to put our RCM and LCM to cover wings so the drop back of the CAM makes him become a CDM instead of RM ?
Thanks !
who's the best player from the serie A that I can use as the LCM/RCM that becomes the LM/RM?
Loved the vid btw, will make sure I give this a try :)
Anyone even a winger like Politano can do the job!
NealGuides - FIFA 20 Tutorials & in-depth Guides you sure? Isn’t politano too attacking to be wasted at CM during offense?
I've found with the game being slower and the AI being better and/or more prone to interceptions and suchlike, tiki taka is alot harder this year than perhaps any other FIFA before. The days of pinging the ball fast up field in one fluid motion of 38 passes seems to have past at least me by:)
CEWIIH passing is so bad this year and interceptions, especially by CDM’s controlled by the AI are so OP.
However, this formation definitely allows you to play some nice football 👌
What is your camera settings?
Idk why...but putting one on false 9 and the other on GIB works for me...🤷🏽♂️
Had 2 days fun with it, but since the update, they don't build two 4 lines.
Great video again pal!
I have tried the tactics on the weekend league and so far 8 wins-1 loss. It works like a charm and this vid deserves thousands of likes. I even don’t want to use my other tactics Briefly, you made the game enjoyable again for me after a loooong time, Neal. Cheers mate 🤘🏻🍺🍺
Hey Neil can u try 532 with the CCM on stay back? It works really well for me
I will give it a go, personally I was not much of a big fan! I preferred the 5212 video coming soon ;)
Neal, Can I change pass style "LONGBALL" to "BALANCE"or"LONGBALL"???
Tomas Rosicky Ive been using this system with balanced instead of long ball and it’s been working great mate 👍
Should I play Griezman or Dembele at that cam in this specific formation and tactics
Hey bro i did exactly the same and the cam and the cm stays on the same side !!
Like they both on the left and i got my right side empty
Best Formation used it since fifa 12
can you make the cam as cm on defense?
I was doing this by accident lel. I was wondering why my rues goes right or left when coming back, i have him on balance though, not come back on defense.
Is the 3-5-2 tactics you previous showed no good anymore
they are all good, just different styles
Can someone explain what happened to the formation? It somehow stopped working for me and I don't feel comfortable with it anymore. Were there some changes to the gameplay EA didn't announce officially?
Does this still work?
Cause I wanna use league sbc battaglia cdm, futmas acuna lcm, and futmas atal rcm
It does I used it with PSG since I dont play FUT and won 6-1 against Legendary AI the match was PSG vs Manchester City
Question, it can't work with putting cam to drop centrally and having both rcm and lcm cover wings?
That’s also my question! My cam (eriksen SS) is mostly out of position during attacking! Can’t get the most of him... tried also RCM + LCM Cover wings to place eriksen defensively central... why is eriksen at cam so ineffective??
This one’s sick
Will the 4231 still work post patch?
Yeah, does it still work?
Yes absolutely, this is just another attacking formation for those that like 41212(2) but find it defensively weak
He’s right I used it and attacking wise it was great but defensively my opponent had a good amount of 1 on 1 situations or the defense was caught off guard
@@NealGuides which is your fave formation/tactic? or is it neither of these 2 and you've got another amazing tactic cooking?! lol
@@NealGuides if I used balanced attacking instead of long ball, does this still work?
Does the possession offensive even work? I am trying to replicate Barcelona as much as possible but no luck. Game is so shit my cm switches to cdm on his own. I play 4-3-3 I like to keep possession and build up the play until an opportunity arises. Problem is I can't seem to get my tactics right. Players never do what the instructions tells them. My cdm attacks even tho I instruct him to stay back and cover center. The wingers never make runs , and the striker is still the entire game. Full backs don't attack properly even tho I tell them to. Any tips?
I actually use possession when I am trying hard - I use my player trigger button which is L1 to trigger players to go forward. Naturally players come short rather than run forward with possession, it also depends what instructions you use? Try balanced on all the instructions par the CDM and use possession tactic see if that works
What type of players in the midfield??
Try any 433 or 4321 please
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Can an average player use this formation.. I mean div 7 player or bronze rank in weekend league to improve their winning result.. Or it only suit for players who r in higher division or gold3 or higher rank player..
I would say give it a try, otherwise try my 4231!
Can you do one for the 4-3-3 (5) please
Great video as always. I loved your 4231. Please do the 4321 formation.
👇Like for 4321!!!
It's the pep of fifa. Back at it again with a youtube video
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@@scousegam3r565 Klopp dreams of being Pep lol
@@MorrisseyMuse obviously not seeing as Liverpool are top of the league and won the champions League
Hey Neal can i make my cam on stay fwd and one striker toh come back on defence?
Please do a review of the 3142 formation like how you did in Fifa 19. It worked perfect for me then and also I was using the same tactics in Fifa 20. However after the first patch idk what happened, it just doesn’t work. Would appreciate if you could work on the 3142.
The 3142 formation is glitched, the players positions are different than they should be
Bro what’s what best formation/tactics to stop me from getting bullied by tiki taka?
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Hi, excuse me, I need help!!! Does anyone know why I have this issue where my CAM keeps following one of my CMs to come back on defence? Yes, my CAM (Hazard) is going wide to defend the right side, but when I change Bergkamp (RCM) for Petit (LCM) to leave Petit as a center mid, Hazard changes sides too, and he drops to the same side as Bergkamp, leaving him as LCM and Petit as RM. It's really annoying since I need Petit in the middle along Vieira (CDM).
How to Play home after patch?
Patch broke game even More it is confusing... Totally different game again
cant keep up with it fucking terrible this year.