I have an Ecobee 3 lite. My heating system is a 4 ton air to air heat pump. I set the stat up myself and it seems to work well, except for a set point issue... a bit of history. I have had 3 different heat pumps over the past 30 years and I understand that the HP guys recommend not setting back the setpoint at night, simply leaving the SP constant. But my wife and I prefer17 deg C at night and 21 during the day. Sleep temp SP is 17 with Home at 21 as just mentioned. My schedule is set for 21 at 8:00am. So, going from 17 to 21 will cause my HP to run along with the aux (20kw electric heat). During this time, my KW draw is just over 25kw, along with other stuff. My preference is to bring the temp up to SP via HP and leave the aux off. That said, I do need my aux to kick in when the HP goes into defrost cycle. BTW, I live on Canada's East Coast. I have watched all your 5 videos. thoughts on my dilemma?
Just found these videos and they were very informative. I just had a Carrier 59TP6B 2 Stage gas furnace installed with the Ecobee with voice and have a question about fan control. At the 5:05 minute mark of the install process you mention that you want the Ecobee to control the furnace fan over the furnace it self. That means that the Ecobee will start the fan a few seconds sooner than the furnace would have for a heating call. Will the cold air flowing sooner over the heat exchanger and sensors delay the furnace at all from starting to send heat out. Normally the fan does not start until the heat exchanger heats things up a bit so its not sending cold air out at first. Also does this setting determine that the Ecobee handles the reverse staging mode. Thanks
You are correct. Ryan was speaking from the perspective of a commercial packaged RTU. For a residential furnace, you will want to choose furnace, not ecobee. This video is on our lists of ones to modernize for that reason and couple others like it. In the full version of these class (4 hours in person or online), Ryan cover this topic in more detail and when you might choose one over the other. You can watch at Part 1: register.gotowebinar.com/register/4747447523136165645 Part 2: register.gotowebinar.com/register/3968999888045221647
I've got a heat pump, and I've got 8 wires coming out of the wall, that were hooked up to the existing/old Honeywell thermostat. With the ecobee premium instructions, i only see clear details on what to do with 5 of the wires... Any suggestions? I've looked & looked for a video of someone who has a heat bump, installing this ecobee premium, but have been unable to find an installation instruction video.
You need to know what the other end of each of those 8 wires connects to specifically in order to determine if ecobee can handle this situation. Ecobee has wiring diagrams for as many as 10 wires. You have your 5 traditional wires (G, Y1, W1, Rc, C) and then 2nd stage heat (W2), 2nd stage compressor (Y2), separate 24v for two transformer systems (Rh), and finally 1 or 2 wires for an accessory like a humidifier.
my current one stage furnace only has 5 wires, Rc, Y,G,W and C, but I am planning to install a Two Stage Variable Speed furnace, do I need new wires from Furnace to Thermostat to reflect added Stage?
Yes, you need another wire because you will have W1 and W2 now. If you don’t want to pull new wire, you can use the PEK that comes with the ecobee. Run 4 of your wires through it (but it will do the work of 5 wires). And then use your 5th wire for W2.
Great videos, thank you! I have a 2 stage furnace, but the ecobee is only showing 1 stage. The installer use the pek for the 5th wire. Do I use need to select the W2 wire to get the ecobee to acknowledge the 2nd stage? Or should I call the installer back? Thanks
The red wire for power of my thermostat is on Rh..ecobee says only put the red wire to Rc..what is the reason behind it and what will happen if I put the red wire to Rh instead to Rc?
For each thermostat manufacturer that makes dual transformer stats for separate heating and cooling system, they select if the Rh or the Rc is the one that powers the actual stat itself. It is their preference. Your old stat must have preferred Rh. ecobee likes Rc. FYI - most applications do not have dual transformers but higher end stats are setup for it and it can be used when needed.
@@leovillanueva5576 We distribute Heil products so we know the models well. A "basic" 16 SEER heat pump would be the NXH6 model and it not compatible with the SYST0101CW control at all. There is a communicating higher end 16 SEER model (HSH6) that works with that control, but we do not stock it here locally because it is only single stage. Single stage is the worst way to control cooling so it doesn't make sense to us to offer a high end unit that is not comfortable. There is also a less basic communicating model that is 2 stage (HCH6). Not using the SYST control on those two communicating systems will mean that you lose the ability to control fan speeds from the stat, you won't get "true dirty filter" alarms, and you won't see any of the fan coil or heat pump alarm messages.
@@leovillanueva5576 If you said you had the HVH8, which is a 5-stage 18 SEER heat pump, then we would advise the SYST control is critical because it is needed to get all 5 stages. Putting an ecobee (or any other standard thermostat) on that system will only allow you to get 2 stages. And there is similar logic with the modulating gas furnace models for those customers that have that.
I will 100% DISAGREE with the fan controlled by the thermostat!!! The furnace control board should be in control, unless it is electric, of the fan. Having the thermostat control it will cause call backs for various reasons. The additional videos do NOT do a proper job in explaining the difference, but let us say you have cold air when heating and humidity issues in cooling. Depending on your location this may be minor or quite noticeable.
We get that question a lot. In this case, Ryan's ecobee was connected to a commercial system that needed to have G energized on a heat call. Since filming that video 5 years ago, when we sit in on his training classes, he explains in detail how that setting works. If you have a traditional gas furnace, you want the equipment to control fan on that ecobee setting. This allows it to pre-warm the heat exchanger to avoid an initial blast of cold blow. However, if you have other systems such as electric heat or hydronic coils, then something often need to engage the fan so ecobee has to.
I have an Ecobee 3 lite. My heating system is a 4 ton air to air heat pump. I set the stat up myself and it seems to work well, except for a set point issue... a bit of history. I have had 3 different heat pumps over the past 30 years and I understand that the HP guys recommend not setting back the setpoint at night, simply leaving the SP constant. But my wife and I prefer17 deg C at night and 21 during the day. Sleep temp SP is 17 with Home at 21 as just mentioned. My schedule is set for 21 at 8:00am. So, going from 17 to 21 will cause my HP to run along with the aux (20kw electric heat). During this time, my KW draw is just over 25kw, along with other stuff. My preference is to bring the temp up to SP via HP and leave the aux off. That said, I do need my aux to kick in when the HP goes into defrost cycle. BTW, I live on Canada's East Coast. I have watched all your 5 videos. thoughts on my dilemma?
Just found these videos and they were very informative. I just had a Carrier 59TP6B 2 Stage gas furnace installed with the Ecobee with voice and have a question about fan control. At the 5:05 minute mark of the install process you mention that you want the Ecobee to control the furnace fan over the furnace it self. That means that the Ecobee will start the fan a few seconds sooner than the furnace would have for a heating call. Will the cold air flowing sooner over the heat exchanger and sensors delay the furnace at all from starting to send heat out. Normally the fan does not start until the heat exchanger heats things up a bit so its not sending cold air out at first. Also does this setting determine that the Ecobee handles the reverse staging mode. Thanks
You are correct. Ryan was speaking from the perspective of a commercial packaged RTU. For a residential furnace, you will want to choose furnace, not ecobee. This video is on our lists of ones to modernize for that reason and couple others like it. In the full version of these class (4 hours in person or online), Ryan cover this topic in more detail and when you might choose one over the other. You can watch at
Part 1: register.gotowebinar.com/register/4747447523136165645
Part 2: register.gotowebinar.com/register/3968999888045221647
@@TECTubefilms Thank You
I've got a heat pump, and I've got 8 wires coming out of the wall, that were hooked up to the existing/old Honeywell thermostat.
With the ecobee premium instructions, i only see clear details on what to do with 5 of the wires...
Any suggestions?
I've looked & looked for a video of someone who has a heat bump, installing this ecobee premium, but have been unable to find an installation instruction video.
You need to know what the other end of each of those 8 wires connects to specifically in order to determine if ecobee can handle this situation. Ecobee has wiring diagrams for as many as 10 wires. You have your 5 traditional wires (G, Y1, W1, Rc, C) and then 2nd stage heat (W2), 2nd stage compressor (Y2), separate 24v for two transformer systems (Rh), and finally 1 or 2 wires for an accessory like a humidifier.
Will all the same features be available on retail ones I buy?
Technical features are the same between retail and pro. There are other differences, such as a longer warranty on the pro version.
Thanks for the videos.
my current one stage furnace only has 5 wires, Rc, Y,G,W and C, but I am planning to install a Two Stage Variable Speed furnace, do I need new wires from Furnace to Thermostat to reflect added Stage?
Yes, you need another wire because you will have W1 and W2 now. If you don’t want to pull new wire, you can use the PEK that comes with the ecobee. Run 4 of your wires through it (but it will do the work of 5 wires). And then use your 5th wire for W2.
Great videos, thank you!
I have a 2 stage furnace, but the ecobee is only showing 1 stage. The installer use the pek for the 5th wire. Do I use need to select the W2 wire to get the ecobee to acknowledge the 2nd stage? Or should I call the installer back? Thanks
Where is part 4? I can’t find it.
Here is the whole playlist - ua-cam.com/play/PLoR_O4JRNc24VrGR846DgWacOAEw_uJ4C.html
The red wire for power of my thermostat is on Rh..ecobee says only put the red wire to Rc..what is the reason behind it and what will happen if I put the red wire to Rh instead to Rc?
Without 24vac on Rc, the stat will not power up.
For each thermostat manufacturer that makes dual transformer stats for separate heating and cooling system, they select if the Rh or the Rc is the one that powers the actual stat itself. It is their preference. Your old stat must have preferred Rh. ecobee likes Rc. FYI - most applications do not have dual transformers but higher end stats are setup for it and it can be used when needed.
I'm getting a Heil unit and was wondering if the Ecobee or syst0101cw would be better to get?
Which Heil indoor and outdoor models?
@@TECTubefilms I didn't ask for the model number, but do know it'll be a 5 ton unit they said
It's going to be a basic 16 SEER model with an electric 15 KW heater.
@@leovillanueva5576 We distribute Heil products so we know the models well. A "basic" 16 SEER heat pump would be the NXH6 model and it not compatible with the SYST0101CW control at all. There is a communicating higher end 16 SEER model (HSH6) that works with that control, but we do not stock it here locally because it is only single stage. Single stage is the worst way to control cooling so it doesn't make sense to us to offer a high end unit that is not comfortable. There is also a less basic communicating model that is 2 stage (HCH6). Not using the SYST control on those two communicating systems will mean that you lose the ability to control fan speeds from the stat, you won't get "true dirty filter" alarms, and you won't see any of the fan coil or heat pump alarm messages.
@@leovillanueva5576 If you said you had the HVH8, which is a 5-stage 18 SEER heat pump, then we would advise the SYST control is critical because it is needed to get all 5 stages. Putting an ecobee (or any other standard thermostat) on that system will only allow you to get 2 stages. And there is similar logic with the modulating gas furnace models for those customers that have that.
Robbie Lawler know how to install thermostats??
Robbie Lawler the MMA fighter?
@@TECTubefilms Haha looks like him a lil
I will 100% DISAGREE with the fan controlled by the thermostat!!!
The furnace control board should be in control, unless it is electric, of the fan.
Having the thermostat control it will cause call backs for various reasons.
The additional videos do NOT do a proper job in explaining the difference, but let us say you have cold air when heating and humidity issues in cooling. Depending on your location this may be minor or quite noticeable.
We get that question a lot. In this case, Ryan's ecobee was connected to a commercial system that needed to have G energized on a heat call. Since filming that video 5 years ago, when we sit in on his training classes, he explains in detail how that setting works. If you have a traditional gas furnace, you want the equipment to control fan on that ecobee setting. This allows it to pre-warm the heat exchanger to avoid an initial blast of cold blow. However, if you have other systems such as electric heat or hydronic coils, then something often need to engage the fan so ecobee has to.
That was our long way of saying we agree with you. :)
really.