My Opinion of the BMF Belt…
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Chael Sonnen talks Max Holloway and Ilia Topuria on this episode of Beyond the Fight
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The BMF belt should be open weight
agreed
Any weight. Any height. The BMF.
And gender
@@bahionic ahhahaha no
@@bahionic Yes Holly Holm vs. Hazmat.
I think there is a unspoken rule about the bmf belt…if you want to fight for it you can’t shoot for a takedown!
Could listen to this man talk all day 😂
And we do!
He got me hooked on hot salad
Not Mr. Water Bottle, it was "Hand Sanitizer Boy"
Came to the comments to say the same thing!
😂😂😂@@davidj5491
Thank you.. Been going a little crazy with Chael continuing to say water bottle. Lol
BMF belt has sold good numbers every time its been fought for
Shows that entertaining guys sell more than world championships do
Source?
@@markshaw1540he spewed it out of his ass
Unc you arguably the OG BMF
Would a real BMF rely on a VPN for his internet security though?
original BMF is the one and only nick diaz
@@martys9568 in all reality what about Chuck Liddell?
Max and the BLESSED MAN FOREVER title transcend the 145 title right now, the bmf is the spiritual leader of the sport and should be held in the highest esteem. Only a few names can even qualify for or warrant a chance at it in the entirety of MMA.
Bottle boy is good but he doesn’t meet the criteria.
You gotta take short notice fights. You gotta fight at the top for years without a title. You have to bounce back from hard losses. You need to jump weight classes. You have to get fotn and kotn. You have to embody the spirit of a good, hard fight.
Topuria got to the top quick and knocked out the champ who has beat the bmf 3 times, he’s fought at 155 (herbert) on short notice when his 145 opponent pulled out. He got clean shinned to the chin and sat down to come back and win the fight via walk off KO
It’s not his fault he’s undefeated either. Topuria is a bmf tbf
You just don’t like him
@@dylan6480 he might be a bmf someday, but he fought a compromised Volk who really should’ve waited a year after getting knocked out by Islam. Topuria is still a babyMF. Let him fight Ortega or something. Max and Connor for the BMF is my dream fight.
Tldr; Topuria isn't a journeyman therefore is ineligible for the BMF.
@@RsSlay i kinda agree. He’s a show pony. BMF needs to have some battle scars and heartbreaks.
@@RsSlay Holloway is a journeyman, is that what you're saying?
I don't think Max should have to put up the BMF belt. Just imagine how annoying it would be.
topuria would have to fight Max at 155 to win the BMF
@@UFC_blood4lifeno max can just bring the belt down no?
@@UFC_blood4life The bmf belt is not locked to 155
Topuria should fight Tsyrukian if he goes to 55 thats a sick fight
BMF could be its own league at this point. It's an entertaining product, lots of fighters prefer to fight under its honor code and you got tons of these guys in every weightclass.
Hand Sanitizer Boy is the correct nickname
You took chaels bait . He knows the correct name
Water bottle
@@Yourmashouse no I laid the bait out out for you. Gotcha!
Nah Chael says it’s Mr Water Bottle so that’s what it was
Lol this guy Chael is the biggest advocate of the BMF championship in the world
😂💯
Uncle Chael is after all, “The Bad Guy,” why wouldn’t he champion it? He IS the BMF Champion. The belt was made with his signature on it.
Tbf I love the BMF and totally agree it should be an open weight opportunity for the genuine BMF in each division.
If anyone were to have a talk show on television, it should be Chael. I wouldn't miss a show (if I had television).
He has one and it doesn’t get great views
He has one on ESPN+ but because ESPN+ is so lame, nobody knows about it
I don’t think Ilia would make it out of that mounted guillotine. I mean, I’m just sharing this for you.
Max should be patient and fight the winner of Mac & Chandler
yep
He should fight Illia Tupperware for the 145lb title AND then fight the winner of Conor/Chandler.
Ty Chael for all the content
I think Max should stick around at 155. As the BMF he doesn’t need to fight grapplers, he can rematch Poirier or the winner of Conor vs Chandler, and the payday is way bigger than the potential matchups at 145.
Also, Max has already been champ at 145.
But if the two belts are on the line and winner takes all it makes more interesting than potential Poirier fight. Ofc McGregor brings all the show but for now I see more exciting Max vs Topuria than Max vs Dustin/Chandler
@@GadzzTremosspray to god illia don’t win that belt that mf will hold it hostage better than isis
I agree that is what he should do, but I truly think Holloway wants to do 2 things: 1. Make history and 2. Be known as the best fighter in the world. I’m predicting that he will seek to become double champ at 145 and 155 AND defend the BMF belt. He will go back down and fight Topuria, and then he will patiently wait for an opportunity to go for the 155 belt, and along the way he will defend the BMF
Bmf shouldn’t let take downs
@@tomj6941 bmf is a mf like Nate Diaz they gon stand and bang and give the people what they want the belt would lose so much value if a heavy grappler took it lmaooo
UFC kept the Matador safe and away from Max, so now Max and get the Champ belt back, and loose it to Volk in #4 rematch... Poor Ortega lost so completely to Max... and is just a pawn to be trolled
Cause tito tapped
Tell me you'd give Chael a handy without telling me you'd give Chael a handy.
I like the idea, Brian Ortega would probably prefer the BMF. Except that Max gave Brian the worst beating of his life, almost broke his spirit, and he’s never been the same since. I don’t think Brian ever wants to fight max again.
I just came here to say the same thing. Not down on Bryan. Hislast fight was impressive. But I think his fight with Max just was not competitive enough to ask the UFC to do it again in light of Max's new found star power. It just isn't going to happen.
he would choose the real title any day of the week & max can get it if he wants too.. he subs his skinny ass in a rematch.
The BMF belt is really the UNCLE CHAEL belt
Well, sir you are becomg Topurias fan without knowing😁. Here is what i understood from your break down. Topuria is a very smart man and just as good at poker game seems like it. Keeping all his cards closed and making every one wonder what hand he’s playing. Max vs Ortega is nonsense, cause Ortega has nothing to offer back to Max and nonsense Max to come down weight class for kiddish game. Max was a BMF before belt, will be a BMF with or without, just like many other fighters in the history of this sport. BMF belt was meaningless, worthless before this fight and guess what, not Max, not Justin, not that KO, but Topuria is the one who made that belt sound priceless by saying, Max has something he wants just for his legacy. Great hand played by him. Impressed tbh. Yet, all of it became clear to me after listening to you.
I think ppl misinterpret what the BMF title is all about. It’s not like a traditional title that has to defended all the time but more of a title meant to commemorate a fight between two guys that established a resume fitting and worthy to be called the “BMF”. It also serves the purpose to sell that fight as a main event with a title at stake between two guys that aren’t actual champs.
Topuria-Holloway for the featherweight title sells itself and doesn’t need or fit what the BMF title was intended to serve as mentioned above.
You are correct. I'll just add that to even have the honor of fighting for the BMF belt, the fighters already have to BE BMFs. Nate Diaz, Dustin Porrier and now Justin Gaethje have lost in the BMF fights, but they were, are and forever will be BMFs. The belt goes to the winner, but both guys who fight for the BMF belt are already BMFs before they step into the octagon.
Haha love the dramatic strategizing but only one problem- that would mean Ortega would have to actually fight Holloway😂
Best Cheal video of the Best Cheal video's 👍🏾
What a on point analysis 👏🏾
Chael went full on Vincente Luque and Ian Garry on Topuria.
Chael terrified the 185 pound king for 24 minutes, got bored, then went and disabled the 205 pound kind in under 5 minutes. Undefeated, undisputed, never lost a round
The real BMF will always be the actual world champion wearing the gold belt. The current BMF belt should be called “The Most Exciting Fighter” belt but a belt should be taken out of it because it’s not a real championship.
I watch videos with my Family in the room please refrain from the cursing sir. We respect you and enjoy your perspective and commentary. Thank you.
First and foremost, let's thank Chael for lending his birth right belt to the UFC and the very deserving Max.
There is only 1(at a time, now 2 in existence) BMF title-belts...
There is the same belt at every weightclass for each classes champion and the BMF is the rarest title (and the coolest concept) of them all!
Absolutely I think anyone other than Brian Ortega would go for the BMF but the Championship belt has eluded Ortega his entire career...
We need like a strictly bmf talk podcast/channel I can’t get enough
I’ve been thinking about that Ortega play this whole day ever since I heard it on good guy/bad guy. Hope max listens to uncle chael
It was announced Saturday night that Conor McGregor is now a business partner with BKFC. I think that may have something to do with the delay in him coming back. Thoughts? Also wondering if that changes the supposed fight with Chandler, for which there is no fight agreement signed. Apparently I'm the only guy who noticed this. Nobody is talking about (that I've seen).
Paddy called Ilia "Mr Hand Sanitizer"
I want to know more about your lunch with Anderson Silva!!
Picture it. Two of the best strikers in MMA put both titles up in a “BMF” match. Instant double champ either way. I can’t lie, I was so impressed with max (one of my all time favorites just under Gaethje) but the entire fight I compared every aspect of his game to topuria. I feel like its a “must see” and I like it even if topurias belt isn’t on the line. Sweetens the pot and the interest if it is but for sheer sport, we need this fight. The ortega idea is brilliant but I think we have to get it while its hot.$$$$
Illia Tupperware has no business fighting for the BMF belt. In all of the fights, the fighters stepped into the octagon ALREADY being BMFs. Nate Diaz, Dustin Porrier and now Justin Gaethje have lost the fights but all three guys will always be considered BMFs anyway. Illia Tupperware just isn't in that category. Not even close.
Ilya hasnt done enough to even be a whisper of a true BMF. The deeper into the calendar he goes without fighting Max gotta help Max, meaning more film & wear & tear on Ilya's tires especially if he goes against Ortega & a rested Volk. Did any of the BMF participants so far have a resume that was so easily questioned as to the criteria? Not a single 1 even if we the original authors of the BMF in Nick & Cowboy. You cant be a BMF title holder with questions. Like Max said: "We got questions" so far so good but theres undeniable questions
You ever noticed that West Lynn itself is formed in the shape of the original gangsters chin.
Facinating take Chael! I hadn’t thought of that option for Max. Also another great idea of the BMF being an open weight class belt. Wow! Reminds me of PRIDE days!
Topuria should fight Max at 155 if he wants the BMF on the line. Also, can't see Ilia standing in the center, getting into a fire fight with Max either so...
The BMF belt was last fought at 156 Max and Tropicana should fight twice in 1 night and weigh in twice the day before, 145 and 156
im sorry but Ilia dont get to be a bmf yet he has been in thge ufc what like 5 years? No no hes not a nobody but the BMF should be a fan favorite and an og.
Agreed brotha.
How we gon have “the Rock” present the first BMF belt and not the original “Bad Guy,” the true BMF present the first BMF belt. He practically made the BMF title a real thing.
BMF is a fancy way to say "the people's champ". If you're a current undisputed champ, you shouldn't be eligible to fight for it. The People's Champ is someone that meets all the criteria of a real champ but isn't because there's someone else in their division keeping them from the belt. Examples Holloway, Oliveira, and Whittaker.
I love how Chael Sonnen can talk and not giving any information whatsoever.
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Brilliant!
Topuria is acting like a Prima Donna
Omagod omagod omagod... This is wild! I love Max. I love the BMF belt. I love Ilia Toporia, and yeah... Brian Ortega is pretty damn awesome too. I just don't want the BMF belt to get surgically attached to the undisputed belt. I don't think the UFC wants that either. But, whatever happens, count me in. Let's effen go!!!
Topuria is great? Uncle Chael, YOU are great!
Woahhh big fella 😂😂😂😂
While I agree that the bmf numbers have been great I think it's more about Everytime it's contested these are house hold names fighting for it not because the belt itself is so coveted , wether it is Nate v George , Dustin v Justin, Justin v Max , people want to see those guys with our without that belt , it could be said that outside of volk v Islam those fighters are bigger stars fighting each other despite maybe not being the highest rank fighters
Imagine taking the BMF match over the actual undisputed title match...not because of the the title status, but because one fight is just more intriguing than the other. Ortega lost to Max before, that's true, imagine Ortega learned something and beats Max (not likely) and/or it's a better fight altogether....how belittled Tuporia must feel after that...Max wins against Ortega and keeps doing this at 145 to all the other contenders and they all chose the BMF over the actual division title...at that point, is the actual title worth anything....like uncle Chael said "...I think the BMF title, wins..."
Max has kinda already did this with Volk, just smashed all the contenders!, max is scary now, he had his own thing now, so he can make a real run with this belt I feel as though that belt is home for awhile. So I'm 100% with you dude he could make the normal belt insignificant lol 😆
So sorry to correct my favorite uncle, but it was sanitizer boy!
This is the Phoenix rising from the ashes. Max will reclaim his belt and dominate.
His name was Mr. Hand sanitizer boy.
You must tell the story as it was. He called him hand sanitizer guy not water bottle.
The championship belts will remain relevant but, the BMF is the hottest commodity right now. It would be a shame to let it cool down.
Ilia went from water bottle boy to champions of the world. Paddy went from a fan favorite to someone no one really wants to watch. How just one year in the fight game can change everything.
Should there be a female BMF belt?
I understand the acronym wouldn't make much sense but do we, or do we not, fundamentally have a secondary gimmick belt for the females as well? If so, it needs to start now while the male BMF belt is still in its early days; OR we just don't have one at all, but the conversation isn't even happening, and it would be weird to have it later when it could be happening now. Again, if we don't want to have a female BMF belt, fair; there's plenty of reasons not to, but the community needs to discuss this.
Chael, if one of the undisputed champions get the BMF what is the point of the BMF existing? The champ could just defend the BMF and not the undisputed? Would make the BMF pointless. I don't even like it when they do it in WWE
I think if Ilia gets a BMF shot then BMF is meaningless again. Then it's just an extra nebulous weight belt.
BMF can only change hands on a finish must be a rule.
I think Ortega would chose to fight for the BMF belt only because Max is the one that holds it.
wait guys he’s actually cooking on this one
Finally a chael take I disagree with. Nicely done
The BMF is a belt beyond record. Its about being a gladiator.
Kibih doesnt qualify as a BMF but jon jones would.
Jose Aldo would.
Dominick cruz.
If the BMF goes to a champion it will always stay with whoever is champion. You can't lose a fight and win the BMF belt, it'd be absurd. For this reason the UFC must prevent champions from fighting for the BMF.
Is max a contender for the 145 belt? Not quite, it seems, although he sure is number 2 after ortega. Is ilia a contender for the BMF belt? Not even close. You gotta keep the two separate and not allow weight class champs to put up ultimatums to strongarm their way to a BMF belt by holding their division hostage. Im not saying Ilia is doing that yet but generally speaking, a BMF champ who is a number 1 contender should not put up his belt without Danas approval. Otherwise it will lose its meaning and turn into another belt based on skill rather than being a BMF.
BMF should only for fighters who are down to fight anytime anywhere no matter the weight. Ilia not there yet . Conor next !
Chael chael chael (singing chael) ive got it alex pereira is 232 lbs post fight wins one more fight so now its November and tom aspinal jon jones whoever is there alex moves up fights tom wins and fights jon jones for a passing of torch something like that
I remember when champions defended their belt just to prove they're the best in the world.. I dont think Ilia deserves a shot at the BMF, that said, put both belts on the line because Max wins anyway
Chael stop thinking. You know the BMF would be picked. I to would love to see Ortega pick.
I pray that topuria’s English is good enough for him to listen to this & digest @ least some % of this troll job😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
I like the idea, Chael, but Bryan Ortega in the story is a bit of a wet blanket on the whole thing. Not that he's a bad fighter or doesn't deserve a chance. But Max fought Bryan already and it is perhaps Max's greatest performance, looking even more dominant than he did in 300, which is saying a lot. The idea with Bryan just won't fly from a promotional standpoint.
Tapioca isn’t eligible for the bmf, maybe in 8 years if he develops a likeable personality and we can learn spell his name.
I'm sorry but we have got to stop this PR campaign for Topuria fighting for the BMF. He's a great fighter but to fight for that belt you've got to have paid your dues and proven you're a legit BMF over a career.
Last I remember, Paddy bounced a bottle of hand sanitizer off his head, absolutely clowned him for weeks, and Ilia did... Nothing. He's just a sweet boy with good manners and that's great.
If that was Jorge or Nate they'd have found Paddy and settled it on-sight.
The BMF should be a fan-favourite match-up, and so either Conor or Charlie Olives should be next (IMO). Both insane fights against Max at 155(ish). Years ago I'd have said Tony but he's done now.
Agreed. I hope Conor beats Chandler and calls out Max for the BMF. Max deserves his red panty night. And then let Topuria fight Ortega or Volk in the meantime.
with the shit Topuria is saying recently, makes me like Paddy more
Suga show will have the bmf
Brian Ortega would take the rematch for the BMF title.
Ilia is an existing fighter to watch, but sometimes I wish he'd take a page from Silva's book and pretend that he can't speak English .
Damn Chael. These advertisements make many people back out of the videos and just read about it elsewhere. Your engagement is definitely down due to this.
I agree! I think the BMF Wins!
Great video Chael, I understood nothing again for 69420th time
Topuria is not a bmf he's great knocks guys out but hasn't done enough to be in the ring and he would have to fight Max at 155 to get that belt
Francis Ngannou vs Jon Jones for the BMF
I'm gonna take the Max bet on this one...
You can't have the undisputed belt AND the bmf belt, they are not compatible... the bmf belt is for junk yard dogs not the princesses at the top 😅
Could Colby cut to 160 to fight for the BMF at a catchweight???
Also BMF should only be done at a catchweight because if it goes up with another belt it then gets tied to that belt. IE 45. Now the 45 pound champ will always be the BMF. Makes it moot
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Guess UFC told Ilia they’ll will put up BMF but he can’t turn to wrestling if Max starts tuning him up. He says never mind just the 145 belt. Nobody likes Ilia & him turning down the fights the fans want. Just cause he bought social media followers. We still don’t care about him. So he better fight someone we care about. Volk, max, aljo or suga
Maybe I'm alone on this but I feel nothing about Ilia, I feel like every MMA talking head has pushed him as this super cool new McGregor but he doesn't inspire any emotions in me at all. Fights are exciting but he just seems dull.
Don't agree w the, Chael. Ortega doesn't deserve a shot at either.
Ortega would take the championship fight
I thought it's urijah Faber
Max putting up the bmf belt against ilia makes no sense to me. Max will do it because he’s the definition of bmf, but volk didn’t put up the 145 lb belt when he fought Islam, for example. I’d put my money on max all day vs ilia. Ilia beat a gun shy volk that didn’t recover from his ko at 155.
Why would volk put up the 145 belt when they didnt even fight at 145 man 😂🤦🏻♂️
No Usman didn’t get the mbf when he beat Maz. It’s not how this works. Plus hand sanitizer guy is no bmf
BMF belt was a gimmick to make Masvidal seem cool.
Ilia not a bmf so why should he get a shot
Win winner 🐓🍛
lmao, ilia will do as hes told little boy.
Water bottle should not be fighting for the bmf